---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/29/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Scraping the T-3A Firefly... (Sarah Tobin) 2. 05:19 PM - What happen!!! (cjpilot710@aol.com) 3. 07:35 PM - tools (cjpilot710@aol.com) 4. 07:48 PM - Re: tools (David McGirt) 5. 07:48 PM - Re: What happen!!! (David McGirt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:54 PM PST US From: Sarah Tobin Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Scraping the T-3A Firefly... It spun true n easy Shinden33 wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Shinden33" Another interesting note. Edwards did full spin/departure testing on the T-3 and found no adverse recovery characteristics or unusual modes. As I understand it, the T-3 spun just as predictably as a C-150. S -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Scraping the T-3A Firefly... --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" Bottom line..they just need to get the good ol' reliable YAK-52 (ok...ok..add a few of the bent wings too...CJ'S!). Just to give them the experience of a slow snap roll! Doc > [Original Message] > From: Scooter > To: > Date: 9/14/2006 9:14:53 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Scraping the T-3A Firefly... > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" > > I believe it is all composite... > > Here's the history: > > "The T-3A is the newest version of Slingsby Aviation's T-67 Firefly line of military training aircraft. The prototype began flying in the summer of 1991, and the Air Force accepted delivery in February 1994. Of the total fleet of 110 T-3s which originally cost $32 million, 57 were stationed with the Air Force Academy's 557th Flying Training Squadron in Colorado Springs, with another 53 with the 3rd Flying Training Squadron in Hondo, Texas. Final assembly of the British-made T-3 was done in Hondo by Northrup Grumman. > > The Air Education and Training Command at Randolph AFB announced on 12 October 1999 that the T-3A Firefly would be dropped by the Air Force, after having been grounded for more than two years. In 1998 the Air Force intiated the privately run Introductory Flight Training which uses private flight schools to screen pilot candidates. The success of this program persuaded the Air Force to drop the T-3 from service. The T-3 fleet was grounded in July 1997, following an inexplicable engine failure in Colorado. Three instructors and three students were killed in crashes since the plane went into service in 1994. Two crashes were the result of pilot error, while a third occurred because of a stall condition from which the pilot was unable to recover. The predecessor T-41 had no fatal accidents in 30 years of flight, although the T-41 was incapable of performing the aerobatics and spins that were the hallmark of the T-3. The T-3's engine had failed 66 times at takeoff or landing, and! > the Air Force grounded 57 of the planes on 10 occasions due to problems with the engines, fuel systems and brakes." > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61569#61569 > > --------------------------------- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:51 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: What happen!!! I was talking to a old friend of 40 years who is a T-34 type guy. (Yes I do talk to them). It seems that he and his son while flying their matching T-34's, engaged a number of Yaks TW and straight 52's in the New England area - - and "dispatched them" One a TW was "green with Jap marking" That sounds like Charlie Lynch to me. What happened guys? Pappy ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:17 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: tools Dave Mc Girt, I keep getting my e-mail bounced from you. Give me a call. Jim ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:19 PM PST US From: "David McGirt" Subject: RE: Yak-List: tools They are on the way back, went out today.. sorry for the delay. You should have the other email as well _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Yak-List: tools Dave Mc Girt, I keep getting my e-mail bounced from you. Give me a call. Jim ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:42 PM PST US From: "David McGirt" Subject: RE: Yak-List: What happen!!! Tell them to come a little further South.. :-) _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Yak-List: What happen!!! I was talking to a old friend of 40 years who is a T-34 type guy. (Yes I do talk to them). It seems that he and his son while flying their matching T-34's, engaged a number of Yaks TW and straight 52's in the New England area - - and "dispatched them" One a TW was "green with Jap marking" That sounds like Charlie Lynch to me. What happened guys? Pappy