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1. 06:11 AM - Re: New member (Jim Bernier)
2. 10:27 AM - alternative engine solution for the CJ (tamara_b@telus.net)
3. 12:39 PM - CJ Inspection (Jon Boede)
4. 12:53 PM - Re: Yak (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
5. 12:57 PM - Re: CJ Inspection (Jim Bernier)
6. 01:03 PM - Re: CJ Inspection (Dave Laird)
7. 02:39 PM - Re: alternative engine solution for the CJ (doug sapp)
8. 02:48 PM - Compressor Shear coupling (Tim Gagnon)
9. 02:49 PM - Re: alternative engine solution for the CJ (ByronMFox@aol.com)
10. 02:56 PM - pumpkin drop (Dave Laird)
11. 03:18 PM - Re: pumpkin drop (ByronMFox@aol.com)
12. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Yak (Roger Kemp)
13. 03:29 PM - Re: Compressor Shear coupling (Roger Kemp)
14. 04:01 PM - Re: pumpkin drop (Dave Laird)
15. 04:20 PM - Re: pumpkin drop (Ben Marsh)
16. 04:34 PM - Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-In (Shane Golden)
17. 04:48 PM - New RPA Red Alert Mag (David McGirt)
18. 05:04 PM - Re: Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-In (Jay Land)
19. 05:11 PM - Re: Compressor Shear coupling (A. Dennis Savarese)
20. 05:13 PM - Re: Compressor Shear coupling (A. Dennis Savarese)
21. 05:23 PM - Membership (Jay Land)
22. 05:33 PM - Re: pumpkin drop (david stroud)
23. 11:55 PM - Re: Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-In (Richard Goode)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Pete
I can send a copy of the CD. Email your address to me.
The CD is great as a back up to replace lost or damaged pages and to carry aboard
the plane as reference if maintenance needs to be performed while outside the
300nm.
You need a hard copy as shop reference. Much easier to use. Contact Doug Sapp for
the hard copy.
Share the CD with anyone that you wish. Its free.
Jim B
>>> waddingtonpeter@hotmail.com 10/15/2006 11:32 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "peter waddington" <waddingtonpeter@hotmail.com>
I am posting for the first time. I am in the process of purchasing a CJ6-A,
with a buddy, from Victoria Air Maintenance in Victoria, Canada. I
understand from an old posting, copies of various manuals and other
documentation related to the Nanchang are available on CD. (Brian Lloyd)? I
would like to obtain a copy of this CD if possible. Please someone let me
know! Taking delivery in two weeks and looking forward to the thrill and
privilage of owning a CJ-6A and the large step up from a Cherokee 140.
Many thanks,
Pete Waddington,
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| Subject: | alternative engine solution for the CJ |
--> Yak-List message posted by: tamara_b@telus.net
Gentlemen,
did anybody ever thought about putting
a M-462RF engine with a V-520
propeller on a CJ? Those engines and
propellers are certified in quite some
countries and all bulletins and ADs are
posted on the internet.
As far as I have learned, those engines
are still available directly from the
factory in the Czech Republic.
http://www.moraviation.com/m462.html
Your opinions and thoughts are highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Regards
Elmar (C-FTKL)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
Anybody got a good annual inspection checklist for the CJ?
Thanks,
Jon
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
Hello, I am looking for some hoses for Yak 52
1. Fuel line hoses that are in engine compartment
2. Oil cooler hose (part that goes through cockpit)
are the fuel lines available in stainless that will last forever? What are
best choices?
Bob Schwartz
This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If you
are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
content of this information is strictly prohibited.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Yak-List: CJ Inspection
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
>
> Anybody got a good annual inspection checklist for the CJ?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Inspection |
Jon
Try the attached. It was made for a Yak 52, but should work if modified a
little.
Jim B
>>> jonboede@hotmail.com 10/16/2006 2:37 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
Anybody got a good annual inspection checklist for the CJ?
Thanks,
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Inspection |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Craig Payne has a really nice one...I believe he was going to post it
to the RPA site.
I have a version of that checklist...but I think Craig was going to
slightly tweak it some more. Craig?
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
On Oct 16, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Jon Boede wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
>
> Anybody got a good annual inspection checklist for the CJ?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
>
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| Subject: | alternative engine solution for the CJ |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Elmar,
I have been working with the folks in the Czech Republic for a year now
about this matter. We have discussed many options trying to get the price
down to a point where it would make sense to use this engine. Unfortunately
the FOB (at their port) price is over 20K for a fully overhauled engine, so
the question must be asked, why not just buy a M14B or P? In my opinion the
FOB (in the US) price would have to be somewhere close to 15K before it
would make sense.
I do have a V520 propeller coming for a M462RF engine which I have here at
Omak. I am anxious to see how the CJ will perform with that conversion, but
don't hold much hope that this conversion will ever replace the 285 because
of the cost. At this time the M14B and M14P seem to give the buyer the most
"bang for the buck" cost vs. horsepower wise. I personally like the B
better than the P because it's TBO is 1000 hours compared the P's 500 hours.
Yes the P is a bit more powerful than the B, but for the average guy's use I
seriously doubt you'd notice the difference if both engines were ran at the
same RPM.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
tamara_b@telus.net
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: alternative engine solution for the CJ
--> Yak-List message posted by: tamara_b@telus.net
Gentlemen,
did anybody ever thought about putting
a M-462RF engine with a V-520
propeller on a CJ? Those engines and
propellers are certified in quite some
countries and all bulletins and ADs are
posted on the internet.
As far as I have learned, those engines
are still available directly from the
factory in the Czech Republic.
http://www.moraviation.com/m462.html
Your opinions and thoughts are highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Regards
Elmar (C-FTKL)
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| Subject: | Compressor Shear coupling |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
I need a source for a the shear coupling that goes with the compressor for the
M-14P.
Any ideas? I am willing to buy the whole compressor as long as it includeds the
compressor.
Tim
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=68288#68288
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| Subject: | Re: alternative engine solution for the CJ |
In a message dated 10/16/06 2:40:52 PM, rvfltd@televar.com writes:
> - Unfortunately
> the FOB (at their port)- price is over 20K for a fully overhauled engine
, so
> the question must be asked, why not just buy a M14B or P?
>
Thanks, Doug. As usually concise and to the point. ...Blitz
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
I've been invited to a "pumpkin drop" which is coming up right after
Halloween.
So.... since I have never dropped anything from my aircraft, I'm
wondering how to best approach this feat.
Of course, we would not be endangering persons or property, just
pumpkins....
Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated, I figure that someone
on this list MUST be the best flour bag/pumpkin dropper around...
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: pumpkin drop |
Dave, there are now no fewer than five experts on this subject -- all highly
qualified pumpkin bombers from the recent Sanford, ME fly-in.
We employed 4.5 - 7 LB pumpkins with nice long stems for holding prior to
drop. Anything bigger is too awkward in the cockpit. Obviously, they should be
jettisoned from the aft cockpit so they don't bounce off the wing. Also, don't
worry about the horizontal stabilizer being hit. The pumpkins will fall well
clear without being thrown downward. From 250 agl and 100kts, the pumpkins will
travel forward about 400 - 450 feet before striking the surface where they
will explode nicely showering the area with pumpkin shrapnel.
Also note that the target will disappear under the nose on the approach. So,
landmarks must be identified to the left or the right to establish a release
point. No simple chore. It's a good idea to test fly it before the event as
brother Steve did.
Remind the your backseat bombers not to reach outside the cockpit with a
pumpkin in hand. At 100kts, a wrist could be injured. Just ease the pumpkin over
the rail and drop it. In the end, this is 5% competition and 95% theater.
Really fun! ...Blitz
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Contact Doug Sapp or Carl Hayes. If you send them your old hoses, they can
install new ones on your fittings and turn them around within 24 hours!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: ROBERT SCHWARTZ <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/16/2006 3:05:06 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ"
<schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Hello, I am looking for some hoses for Yak 52
> 1. Fuel line hoses that are in engine compartment
> 2. Oil cooler hose (part that goes through cockpit)
> are the fuel lines available in stainless that will last forever? What
are
> best choices?
>
> Bob Schwartz
>
>
> This information is intended for the use of individual named above. If
you
> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
disclosure,
> copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the
> content of this information is strictly prohibited.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:37 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Inspection
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Anybody got a good annual inspection checklist for the CJ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Compressor Shear coupling |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Try Steve Culp or Carl Hayes. Do not know if the CJ compressor shear
coupling will fit the M-14. Doug Sapp can answer that question.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/16/2006 4:57:31 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Compressor Shear coupling
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>
> I need a source for a the shear coupling that goes with the compressor
for the M-14P.
>
> Any ideas? I am willing to buy the whole compressor as long as it
includeds the compressor.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=68288#68288
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: pumpkin drop |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Wow!
Thanks, Blitz!
That helps a lot.
Maybe I will go practice this weekend.
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:18 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
> Dave, there are now no fewer than five experts on this subject --
> all highly qualified pumpkin bombers from the recent Sanford, ME
> fly-in.
>
> We employed 4.5 - 7 LB pumpkins with nice long stems for holding
> prior to drop. Anything bigger is too awkward in the cockpit.
> Obviously, they should be jettisoned from the aft cockpit so they
> don't bounce off the wing. Also, don't worry about the horizontal
> stabilizer being hit. The pumpkins will fall well clear without
> being thrown downward. From 250 agl and 100kts, the pumpkins will
> travel forward about 400 - 450 feet before striking the surface
> where they will explode nicely showering the area with pumpkin
> shrapnel.
>
> Also note that the target will disappear under the nose on the
> approach. So, landmarks must be identified to the left or the right
> to establish a release point. No simple chore. It's a good idea to
> test fly it before the event as brother Steve did.
>
> Remind the your backseat bombers not to reach outside the cockpit
> with a pumpkin in hand. At 100kts, a wrist could be injured. Just
> ease the pumpkin over the rail and drop it. In the end, this is 5%
> competition and 95% theater. Really fun! ...Blitz
>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List _-
> www.matronics.com/contribution _-
> ===========================================================
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
Art Vance attached pumpkins to the bomb racks of his P-51, gently launched
out of STS and dropped them in the pond at 0Q3. It was a seasonal follow-up
to his summer watermelon drop. I have to say, seeing his 357th mustang
equipped with pumpkin ordinance was one of the funniest aviations sights
I've seen.
Alas, Art Vance is Kaput.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Laird
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: pumpkin drop
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Wow!
Thanks, Blitz!
That helps a lot.
Maybe I will go practice this weekend.
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:18 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
> Dave, there are now no fewer than five experts on this subject --
> all highly qualified pumpkin bombers from the recent Sanford, ME
> fly-in.
>
> We employed 4.5 - 7 LB pumpkins with nice long stems for holding
> prior to drop. Anything bigger is too awkward in the cockpit.
> Obviously, they should be jettisoned from the aft cockpit so they
> don't bounce off the wing. Also, don't worry about the horizontal
> stabilizer being hit. The pumpkins will fall well clear without
> being thrown downward. From 250 agl and 100kts, the pumpkins will
> travel forward about 400 - 450 feet before striking the surface
> where they will explode nicely showering the area with pumpkin
> shrapnel.
>
> Also note that the target will disappear under the nose on the
> approach. So, landmarks must be identified to the left or the right
> to establish a release point. No simple chore. It's a good idea to
> test fly it before the event as brother Steve did.
>
> Remind the your backseat bombers not to reach outside the cockpit
> with a pumpkin in hand. At 100kts, a wrist could be injured. Just
> ease the pumpkin over the rail and drop it. In the end, this is 5%
> competition and 95% theater. Really fun! ...Blitz
>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List _-
> www.matronics.com/contribution _-
> ===========================================================
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| Subject: | Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-In |
Calling all Yak drivers (CJ's and Jets too),
The registration for the Waycross, GA Red Star fly-in is on the website.
The dates are 25 - 27 January with possible backup dates in March. We
will
have an acro box.
Any NEW formation students interested in a full-blown FAST clinic
contact me
ASAP.
More details to follow.
Shane
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| Subject: | New RPA Red Alert Mag |
Can someone email me a pdf version please, it is not on the website yet
David
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| Subject: | Re: Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-In |
I got an email bounce when I registered.
Jay
From: Shane Golden <scgsmg@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-In
Calling all Yak drivers (CJ=B9s and Jets too),
The registration for the Waycross, GA Red Star fly-in is on the website.
The dates are 25 =AD 27 January with possible backup dates in March. We will
have an acro box.
Any NEW formation students interested in a full-blown FAST clinic contact m
e
ASAP.
More details to follow.
Shane
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| Subject: | Re: Compressor Shear coupling |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Try Steve Culp of Culps Specialties. culpspecial@yahoo.com
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Compressor Shear coupling
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>
> I need a source for a the shear coupling that goes with the compressor for
> the M-14P.
>
> Any ideas? I am willing to buy the whole compressor as long as it
> includeds the compressor.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=68288#68288
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Compressor Shear coupling |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Unfortunately, the CJ compressor does not have a sheer coupling even though
the compressor is identical to the one on the M14P.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Compressor Shear coupling
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Try Steve Culp or Carl Hayes. Do not know if the CJ compressor shear
> coupling will fit the M-14. Doug Sapp can answer that question.
> Doc
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 10/16/2006 4:57:31 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Compressor Shear coupling
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>>
>> I need a source for a the shear coupling that goes with the compressor
> for the M-14P.
>>
>> Any ideas? I am willing to buy the whole compressor as long as it
> includeds the compressor.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=68288#68288
>>
>>
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Does anyone have an email contact for membership issues at RPA? The ones on
the web site come back as bad.
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: pumpkin drop |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "david stroud" <dstroud@storm.ca>
I won a flour bomb contest at CYRP near Ottawa, Canada back
in the '80's. Only in a 172 though and the PIC was a large breasted
LAG who knew how to take instructions. We won the contest easily
and the prize was a sightseeing trip up the St.Lawrence river to Montreal
for a nightime flight over the city and return to Carp. We landed around
midnight and checked our message boxes to find we each had a note
from our soon to be EX's. EXtreme paperwork followed and we've never
been happier.
We found practice makes perfect though, be consistent in your drop technique,
approach speeds, keep an eye on the sock if there is one and if you can,
keep your eye on the job and off the pilot eh? Plenty of time for that later.
:-)
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
Fairchild 51 early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Laird" <dave@davelaird.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: pumpkin drop
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
> Wow!
> Thanks, Blitz!
> That helps a lot.
> Maybe I will go practice this weekend.
>
> Dave Laird
> N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:18 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Dave, there are now no fewer than five experts on this subject --
> > all highly qualified pumpkin bombers from the recent Sanford, ME
> > fly-in.
> >
> > We employed 4.5 - 7 LB pumpkins with nice long stems for holding
> > prior to drop. Anything bigger is too awkward in the cockpit.
> > Obviously, they should be jettisoned from the aft cockpit so they
> > don't bounce off the wing. Also, don't worry about the horizontal
> > stabilizer being hit. The pumpkins will fall well clear without
> > being thrown downward. From 250 agl and 100kts, the pumpkins will
> > travel forward about 400 - 450 feet before striking the surface
> > where they will explode nicely showering the area with pumpkin
> > shrapnel.
> >
> > Also note that the target will disappear under the nose on the
> > approach. So, landmarks must be identified to the left or the right
> > to establish a release point. No simple chore. It's a good idea to
> > test fly it before the event as brother Steve did.
> >
> > Remind the your backseat bombers not to reach outside the cockpit
> > with a pumpkin in hand. At 100kts, a wrist could be injured. Just
> > ease the pumpkin over the rail and drop it. In the end, this is 5%
> > competition and 95% theater. Really fun! ...Blitz
> >
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Re: Yak-List: Red Star Waycross, GA Fly-InWell done.Let me know how it goes
.I've just got back from 8 days in Russia,and the evidence of oil wealth is
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