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Mon 10/23/06


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:29 AM - Bad day Indeed (Russ aka Duncan)
     2. 01:30 AM - Re: I DID IT!!!!! (Russ aka Duncan)
     3. 05:50 AM - Re: Barry Hancock (Jim Bernier)
     4. 07:57 AM - Re: Battery Question (Jim Bernier)
     5. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: I DID IT!!!!! (Roger Kemp)
     6. 08:24 AM - Re: Barry Hancock (PeteAbbott@aol.com)
     7. 08:59 AM - Re:  (Larry Pine)
     8. 09:00 AM - Re:  (Larry Pine)
     9. 09:00 AM - Re:  (Larry Pine)
    10. 09:00 AM - Re:  (Larry Pine)
    11. 09:01 AM - Re:  (Larry Pine)
    12. 09:28 AM - Walt Lannon (Jim Selby)
    13. 09:59 AM - Need to clean out Hangar (Michael Bolton)
    14. 10:27 AM - Re: Walt Lannon (doug sapp)
    15. 11:25 AM - gill shutters for CJ (Jon Boede)
    16. 11:29 AM - Re: Walt Lannon (alikatz@mbay.net)
    17. 11:58 AM - Re: gill shutters for CJ (Roger Kemp)
    18. 12:31 PM - Re: gill shutters for CJ (doug sapp)
    19. 12:36 PM - Re: gill shutters for CJ (Dave Laird)
    20. 02:45 PM - Re: gill shutters for CJ (doug sapp)
    21. 06:17 PM - Re: Bad day (Jim Griffin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:29:33 AM PST US
    From: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com>
    Subject: Bad day Indeed
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com> Sleiman is still a great guy. I saw him at OSH this year and we will all see him again when our turn comes to get that final clearance to that place where we all go. He and Rodger can practice formation together. --- When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. - Leonardo Da Vinci --- The aviator stood at the Pearly Gates and awaited his turn in line. Around him the sky was the brightest blue and the clouds high-white and edged in a golden line. The sun shown high and bright and the breeze was cool and fair. "Great flying weather" he thought "I guess I'll like it here". As he approached St. Peter who with pen on the scroll of life did mark. "Ah! An aviator I see. Are you ready to embark?" "Yes sir" replied the aviator, " I hope I'm still allowed to fly" "Oh yes!" replied St. Peter "and you'll find the flying great. "The lighting will always be way below you, The stars will be close at hand, Why you can reach out and touch them, There in their sparkling band. The radio beacons will be steady. No crackle, buzz, or wrong. Their signals sweet and steady Not unlike an angel's song. The aircraft are strong and worthy With controls smooth and sound. Their engines never cough or sputter Like the Maker they'll never let you down. Yes the flying Here is all you've ever desired" However my son," St. Peter smiled "landings Here, are not required." --- Russ "Air Boss" Witte-Dycus North Central Event Coordinator (soon to be National Treasurer) Red Star Pilot's Association http://www.flyredstar.org


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    Time: 01:30:32 AM PST US
    From: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com>
    Subject: Re: I DID IT!!!!!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com> Damn it Pappy! Now what are we going to get you for Christmas? Now that you got that B-24 rating? Russ


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    Time: 05:50:37 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
    Subject: Re: Barry Hancock
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> Pete Kansas Wind Power sold the unit to me some time back. Their web site is, http://www.kansaswindpower.net/dc_accessories.htm. They have two models, I use the 10/20 amp unit. It is a little pricey but worth the cost. It works. And easy to hook up. Hope this helps. Jim B >>> PeteAbbott@aol.com 10/20/2006 5:28 PM >>> On this same thread, I am not familiar to a battery equalizer. Could you please lead me to a source. I have a Yak 52 and also multiple military vehicles. I would like to use a 12 volt winch on a 24 volt truck. Can the equalizer handle that much amp draw on one battery? Pete N852GC


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    Time: 07:57:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
    Subject: Re: Battery Question
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> Don't know if I can help, wish Brian was still around. If one battery goes bad on a battery tender, it recognizes a low voltage for both when one is OK and fully charged. It keeps on charging both batteries until both are discovered as bad. The balancer that I put in helps eliminate this problem by draining one battery to replenish the other, even when charging. I use two 12 volt Odyssey batteries in series and draw off one for 12 volts. This has been since April of 05. Both are strong. I'm going to not charge the system with the Battery Tender, while its in the hanger, and see what happens. I'm no expert, just a trial and error guy. I have had a Battery Tender on my boat for 5 years before the 12 volt gel cell battery went bad. And It went TU in one month. From good to nothing. Jim >>> ByronMFox@aol.com 10/22/2006 11:12 PM >>> In September 2005, I put two new Gill G25S 12 volt batteries in my CJ to which I attached a 24 volt battery tender. This past Saturday, I discovered that they were shot after a mere 13 months. I have perhaps been mistaken in believing that keeping batteries fully charged was good practice. Without using a battery tender, the last set a batteries lasted about three years. What is it that I fail to understand --- yet again? Thanks, Blitz


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    Time: 07:59:18 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: I DID IT!!!!!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> His very own B-24. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Russ aka Duncan <Duncan1574@execpc.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 10/23/2006 3:39:59 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: I DID IT!!!!! > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com> > > Damn it Pappy! Now what are we going to get you for Christmas? Now that you > got that B-24 rating? > > Russ > >


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    Time: 08:24:00 AM PST US
    From: PeteAbbott@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Barry Hancock
    Thanks Pete


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    Time: 08:59:33 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    Doug, I still have your box that I was supposed to send back to you. I have another CJ driver here that wants to buy it. Can you give me what the invoice price was and I will have dave call you and make payment. I assume I wasn't charged for both boxes, so you shouldn't need to credit me. Correct? Either way let me know and I'll have Dave contact you. Also, what is the status of the regular intake vanes that were coming in? I need three! Thanks Larry 8181C Larry Pine ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:00:05 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    disregaurd that last email it wasn't suppose to go to the group. Larry Pine ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:00:30 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    Please egnore that last email it wasn't suppose to go to the group. Sorry! Larry Pine ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:00:37 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    Please egnore that last email it wasn't suppose to go to the group. Sorry! Larry Pine ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:01:19 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    Please ignore that last email..... it wasn't suppose to go to the group. Sorry! Larry Pine ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:28:50 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
    Subject: Walt Lannon
    Walt, Can you please provide me with you e-mail address and phone number, I need to order some placards from you. Thank you, Best Regards Jim Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. --> http://forums.matronics.com http://wiki.matronics.com ===========


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    Time: 09:59:51 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Bolton" <mjbjhf@charter.net>
    Subject: Need to clean out Hangar
    Hey Guys and Gals, I need to clean out the hangar and have a J-9 Prop and a Horizon Instruments Digital Tachometer(programed for M-14)zero time for sale. I would rather sell to someone on the list. Contact me directly. If there is no interest here you'll see them on ebay next week. Fly Safe, Fly often Michael J. Bolton (C)803.427.0604 mjbjhf@truvista.net


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    Time: 10:27:11 AM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Walt Lannon
    Walt's info: 250-498-8387 wlannon@cablerocket.com Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Selby Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:28 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Walt Lannon Walt, Can you please provide me with you e-mail address and phone number, I need to order some placards from you. Thank you, Best Regards Jim Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List the Web --> ==========


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    Time: 11:25:36 AM PST US
    From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
    Subject: gill shutters for CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com> I need a complete set of gill shutters for my CJ. My current set has had enough replacements of random origin that it's starting to look like it has gold teeth. I just want to take all of the old ones out and put matching new ones in. Anybody got some for sale? Thanks, Jon


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    Time: 11:29:27 AM PST US
    From: alikatz@mbay.net
    Subject: Walt Lannon
    --> Yak-List message posted by: alikatz@mbay.net Thanks a million Doug. Best Regards Jr > Walt's info: > 250-498-8387 > wlannon@cablerocket.com > > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Selby > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:28 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Walt Lannon > > > Walt, > Can you please provide me with you e-mail address and phone number, I > need to order some placards from you. Thank you, > > Best Regards > Jim > > > > > > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List the Web --> ========== > > > >


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    Time: 11:58:33 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: gill shutters for CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Jon, Don't have any shutters lying around but do where you can get an ebonics dentist for those gold teeth! Doc > [Original Message] > From: Jon Boede <jonboede@hotmail.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 10/23/2006 1:39:59 PM > Subject: Yak-List: gill shutters for CJ > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com> > > I need a complete set of gill shutters for my CJ. My current set has had > enough replacements of random origin that it's starting to look like it has > gold teeth. I just want to take all of the old ones out and put matching > new ones in. Anybody got some for sale? > > Thanks, > Jon > >


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    Time: 12:31:21 PM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: gill shutters for CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Jon, The only options available to arrive at a completely overhauled or completely new shutter system it to move to a titanium iris type gill system which will cost you about 2200.00 or wait another 60 days or so until spare shutters get in. I have the cut out shutters, new center rings and pivot rods and screws at this time but still not have the -100 shutters. Hang in there. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Boede Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Yak-List: gill shutters for CJ --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com> I need a complete set of gill shutters for my CJ. My current set has had enough replacements of random origin that it's starting to look like it has gold teeth. I just want to take all of the old ones out and put matching new ones in. Anybody got some for sale? Thanks, Jon


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    Time: 12:36:54 PM PST US
    From: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
    Subject: Re: gill shutters for CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com> you know... i go through about 3 shutters a year.... i wonder if maybe we need them made of some other material. like composite or something? Dave Laird N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty" Dallas


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    Time: 02:45:00 PM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: gill shutters for CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Both 285 and M14 shutters if properly adjusted will last for many years of normal flying. The problem is that just replacing a worn shutter which has a worn out wobbler (the arm at the bottom) is only half the problem. If the center rings are worn, or the pivot bolt is worn, or the center screws are worn, they will cause the early demise of your new shutter gills. Also, care should be taken to be sure that the gill cannot move up and down, it should be just loose enough to allow it to open and close easily. Vibration is the killer here so check every connection to make sure that "rattle" is at a minimum. Composites are wonderful, and I must admit that I don't have a full grasp of what the per unit cost of the shutters would be but I seriously doubt that this method of construction would be effective in solving the wear problem. It's usually not the vane portion of the shutter that goes south, it's all the points where you have metal against metal contact. I really can't see how composites would help this situation. The wobbler is made up of two pieces of steel which are silver soldered together. A redesigned wobblers with a removable wear insert would solve this problem, but again the cost per unit might be a consideration. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: gill shutters for CJ --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com> you know... i go through about 3 shutters a year.... i wonder if maybe we need them made of some other material. like composite or something? Dave Laird N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty" Dallas


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    Time: 06:17:30 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Bad day
    Sleiman's body is returning to Lebanon at his family's request to be buried with his father. There will be a service at Johnson Funeral home 4321 Lake Street, Lake Charles LA.on Wednesday 10-25-06 from 6 to 8PM. The phone number there is 337-478-8687. He was very fond of his Red Star friends and had great memories of flying with you. He was a big hearted guy and will be missed by all. Jim Griffin ----- Original Message ----- From: cjpilot710@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com ; Bigj10@msn.com ; EdrisDee@aol.com ; cd001633@mindspring.com Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Bad day In a message dated 10/22/2006 10:43:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barry@flyredstar.org writes: This is a sad day. Sleiman was one of the first guys to show up in his CJ when we started the MTW gathering at OSH. He was enthusiastic about formation and did a really good job at it. On the wall of my den here is a picture of the first guys to fly at OSH. Brain Lloyd, Hal Morley, Salibi, and myself are standing by Hal's CJ.. There is also a picture of him with Brain ex wife sitting on his lap giving him a smooch when we were all at a bar in OSH and having great time. I was sorry to see him leave our Redstar group and move up to the T-28. It was always great fun to catch up with him at S&F & OSH where we'd have good natured jab about each others airplanes. He had done such a fine job of getting his 28 on the ground at OSH when the engine started to quit - I was proud of him. He really loved flying. He will be missed by the T-28 guys for sure. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby Gang, Former CJ owner and great guy was lost yesterday. Here's the post from the T-28 list: Around 7PM last night Sleiman Salibi was returning home from OSH with his newly acquired engine. After a stop in STL he reported that everything was going well and no performance problems. He refueled the plane himself and left for Lake Charles LA. A 3 hour flight. He was suppose to arrive at 7:30 PM. He called Alexandria LA at about 7PM and reported low fuel and that he was diverting. He was lost on radar shortly afterwards. A SAR helicopter was sent out immediately but quickly returned because of weather. He was last reported over a large National forest north of Alexandria. The LA air guard and CAP have resumed the search today. No ELT signal identified. Lets pray for a good outcome on this. Jim Griffin Use "REPLY ALL" if you want to send your response to everyone in the group. E-mail attachments are disabled until further notice. Yahoo! Groups Links Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just received word from Misty through Skydoc that they found the wreckage of Sleiman's plane with his body in it 25 miles north of Alexandria, LA. No other details are available at this time. She asked that I put this message on the T-28 net to inform all their friends. When I get word of the funeral arrangements, I will post them. Jim Stitt Our thoughts and prayers go to his family and friends.... Barry ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Yak-List .matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com ronics.com/">http://wiki.matronics.com ://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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