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1. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Flight suits (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 10:18 AM - Re: Re: Flight suits (doug sapp)
3. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Flight suits (Jim)
4. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Flight suits (Roger Kemp)
5. 11:57 AM - Re: Re: Flight suits (Stephen Fox)
6. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Flight suits (doug sapp)
7. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Flight suits (Jim Bernier)
8. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Flight suits (cjpilot710@aol.com)
9. 03:41 PM - Fw: Flying Lesson..... (Stephen Fox)
10. 04:07 PM - Re: Re: Flight suits (doug sapp)
11. 04:08 PM - Re: Fw: Flying Lesson..... (doug sapp)
12. 04:24 PM - Fw: Flying Lesson....2 (Stephen Fox)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Quote from the Dupont Nomex web pages -
http://www.dupont.com/nomex/divers_main.html The very last sentence on the
page says;
"And, this protection is long-lasting the exceptional flame-resistance
provided by NOMEX cannot be washed out or worn away."
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>
> boy, i hate to bring this horse back to life... the flame-retardent
> qualities cannot be washed or worn out of Nomex. check out the Dupont
> websites on the matter. a $10 ebay suit is just fine as long as you don't
> mind the ink stains, rips and patch remnants.
>
>
> [quote="Jeff Linebaugh"]If you are really interested in safety, and want a
> flight suit, get a new one.
>
> The nomex in flight suits is perishable. After so many washings, or
> wearings, the flame retardant is gone. Get one off of E-bay, or surplus,
> and you don?Tt know what you?Tve got.
>
> Spend the $99 at flight suits. Or, if you can tolerate looking
> ?odifferent?, the Sportsman?Ts Wearhouse had a huge stock of new
> surplus German AF flightsuits a while back. The sizes are limited, but
> from a safety aspect they work, and they were only about $40?
>
> Jeff
> Yakless, but putting Red Stars on the Rocket?
>
> AUTOTEXTLIST s "E-mail Signature" Jeff Linebaugh
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>
>
>> [b]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=71588#71588
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
Yikes! it just started snowing!!
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:52 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
Cheaper than Ebay, go to an Army/Navy surplus store or any thrift store
near a
military base and you are bound to find some there.
Smash
Doc > LOL!
Actually, there are a couple of specific businesses dealing in used flight
suits... The one I deal with and send my customers to is
www.usedflightsuit.com. There are others if you want to do your own
shopping, but we've found them to be priced right and the suits are in good
shape. The "A" grade suits are about $60.
As for FAST requirements...the RPA has a list of required and recommended
equipment. Check here for a list and many other useful FAST documents...
http://www.flyredstar.org/T_Formation.aspx
Good luck and welcome to what the T-28 guys at Desert Thunder III said is
"the most professional and fun bunch of guys we've ever flown with"....
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
It's real nice here.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
Yikes! it just started snowing!!
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:52 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
Cheaper than Ebay, go to an Army/Navy surplus store or any thrift
store near a
military base and you are bound to find some there.
Smash
Doc > LOL!
Actually, there are a couple of specific businesses dealing in used
flight suits... The one I deal with and send my customers to is
www.usedflightsuit.com. There are others if you want to do your own
shopping, but we've found them to be priced right and the suits are in
good shape. The "A" grade suits are about $60.
As for FAST requirements...the RPA has a list of required and
recommended equipment. Check here for a list and many other useful FAST
documents...
http://www.flyredstar.org/T_Formation.aspx
Good luck and welcome to what the T-28 guys at Desert Thunder III
said is "the most professional and fun bunch of guys we've ever flown
with"....
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
KMXF (Maxwell AFB) 021855Z 34012KT 7SM FW250 18/04 A3019. CAV
Doug, hope it clears before the spring thaw. Starting kind of early up there for
you guys is it not?
Need to migrate down here with us Red Necks in the SE.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
Sent: 11/2/2006 12:34:06 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
Yikes! it just started snowing!!
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
Cheaper than Ebay, go to an Army/Navy surplus store or any thrift store near a
military base and you are bound to find some there.
Smash
Doc > LOL!
Actually, there are a couple of specific businesses dealing in used flight suits... The one I deal with and send my customers to is www.usedflightsuit.com. There are others if you want to do your own shopping, but we've found them to be priced right and the suits are in good shape. The "A" grade suits are about $60.
As for FAST requirements...the RPA has a list of required and recommended equipment.
Check here for a list and many other useful FAST documents...
http://www.flyredstar.org/T_Formation.aspx
Good luck and welcome to what the T-28 guys at Desert Thunder III said is "the
most professional and fun bunch of guys we've ever flown with"....
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
Doug-
I feel you pain. I am sure we here in the NE will be shoveling away
the snow from our hangar doors all too soon.
Steve
On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:17 PM, doug sapp wrote:
> Yikes! it just started snowing!!
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
Sorry guys, that weather report was not meant for the list
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:50 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
It's real nice here.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: doug sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
Yikes! it just started snowing!!
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:52 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
Cheaper than Ebay, go to an Army/Navy surplus store or any thrift
store near a
military base and you are bound to find some there.
Smash
Doc > LOL!
Actually, there are a couple of specific businesses dealing in used
flight suits... The one I deal with and send my customers to is
www.usedflightsuit.com. There are others if you want to do your own
shopping, but we've found them to be priced right and the suits are in good
shape. The "A" grade suits are about $60.
As for FAST requirements...the RPA has a list of required and
recommended equipment. Check here for a list and many other useful FAST
documents...
http://www.flyredstar.org/T_Formation.aspx
Good luck and welcome to what the T-28 guys at Desert Thunder III said
is "the most professional and fun bunch of guys we've ever flown with"....
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Doug
Count your blessings. It may be nice in Texas this time of year, 59 right now,
but the summers are brutal. There is one good point about summers in Texas. You're
at operating temperature before you even start your engine.
Jim B
>>> jsfox@adelphia.net 11/2/2006 1:57:15 PM >>>
Doug-
I feel you pain. I am sure we here in the NE will be shoveling away
the snow from our hangar doors all too soon.
Steve
On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:17 PM, doug sapp wrote:
> Yikes! it just started snowing!!
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
In a message dated 11/2/2006 3:25:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
JBernier@dart.org writes:
Haaa yes. If God wanted man to live in the snow, He would have put more
hair on him. Doug, you have them big nasty bears up there. Do what they do and
sleep. Oooorrrrr - Come live in God's, like smart men do. :)
Pappy
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Doug
Count your blessings. It may be nice in Texas this time of year, 59 right
now, but the summers are brutal. There is one good point about summers in
Texas. You're at operating temperature before you even start your engine.
Jim B
>>> jsfox@adelphia.net 11/2/2006 1:57:15 PM >>>
Doug-
I feel you pain. I am sure we here in the NE will be shoveling away
the snow from our hangar doors all too soon.
Steve
On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:17 PM, doug sapp wrote:
> Yikes! it just started snowing!!
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
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| Subject: | Fwd: Flying Lesson..... |
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| Subject: | Re: Flight suits |
Pappy,
Smart men????? You have been listening to Kerry again haven't you???
Bunch of sneaker eatin Democrats!! Do you two use Heinz catsup on your
Nikes? Just kidding pappy!
I'll stay up here in the frozen north thank you very much. I like the
seasons, the cold keeps the riff raff out.
PS-- I am still holding the B-17 gear leg parts for you.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:44 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Flight suits
In a message dated 11/2/2006 3:25:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
JBernier@dart.org writes:
Haaa yes. If God wanted man to live in the snow, He would have put more
hair on him. Doug, you have them big nasty bears up there. Do what they do
and sleep. Oooorrrrr - Come live in God's, like smart men do. :)
Pappy
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Doug
Count your blessings. It may be nice in Texas this time of year, 59
right now, but the summers are brutal. There is one good point about summers
in Texas. You're at operating temperature before you even start your engine.
Jim B
>>> jsfox@adelphia.net 11/2/2006 1:57:15 PM >>>
Doug-
I feel you pain. I am sure we here in the NE will be shoveling away
the snow from our hangar doors all too soon.
Steve
On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:17 PM, doug sapp wrote:
> Yikes! it just started snowing!!
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug = sp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE find fts ric kstore
you for nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List es Day --> =
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| Subject: | Fwd: Flying Lesson..... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
No lesson on this end???
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Fox
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Flying Lesson.....
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| Subject: | Fwd: Flying Lesson....2 |
Let's see if it works this time
>
>> Subject: : Flying Lesson.....
>>
>>
>> My ex-wife had started taking flying lessons about the time our
>> divorce started. She got her license shortly before our divorce
>> was final, later that same year. Yesterday
>> afternoon, she narrowly escaped injury in the aircraft she was
>> piloting when she was forced to make an emergency landing in
>> Southern Tennessee because of bad weather. Some could call it a
>> crash; an accident at the least. Our kids were with me at the
>> Beach House.
>>
>>
>> National Transportation Safety Board officials have issued a
>> preliminary determination citing pilot error contributed to the
>> accident. Kristi was flying a single engine aircraft (a basic
>> model, at best) in IFR (instrument flight rating) conditions while
>> only having obtained a VFR
>> (visual flight rating) rating.
>>
>> The absence of a post-crash fire was likely due to insufficient
>> fuel on board. No one on the ground was injured.
>>
>> Photographs below were taken at the scene show the extent of
>> damage to her aircraft.
>>
>> She was very lucky.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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