---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/08/06: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:13 AM - If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) (Matt Dralle) 1. 09:29 PM - Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... (Matt Dralle) 2. 01:51 AM - Re: Re: Lost MP readings (Buzzard Aviation) 3. 07:02 AM - CJ for sale (n4829t@aol.com) 4. 07:07 AM - Re: CJ for sale (cjpilot710@aol.com) 5. 07:50 AM - Re: CJ for sale (n4829t@aol.com) 6. 02:41 PM - Re: Yak 50 radio (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 7. 09:46 PM - Re: Yak 50 radio (Jan Mevis) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:18 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Yak-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-) You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working system! Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up. Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. I'm pretty sure you don't either. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:17 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Yak-List: Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... Dear Listers, A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday. I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics List subscription. If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address instead of the List email. I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the same. Otherwise, everything works great. If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't match, please drop me an email at " info@matronics.com " (do not reply to this message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually update the records so that things will work as advertised. Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-) To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administration ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:48 AM PST US From: Buzzard Aviation Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Lost MP readings No virus found in this outgoing message. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:15 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: CJ for sale From: n4829t@aol.com Troops, I'm starting another project.... so my CJ is now for sale... Please contact me off list. Jim"Launch Pad" Plumlee N31103/CJ-6A N4829T@aol.com 843-987-0800 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:57 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ for sale In a message dated 11/8/2006 10:04:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, n4829t@aol.com writes: Damn! Just when we thought you were starting to a hang on formation. Ah well. :[ Pappy Troops, I'm starting another project.... so my CJ is now for sale... Please contact me off list. Jim"Launch Pad" Plumlee N31103/CJ-6A _N4829T@aol.com_ (mailto:N4829T@aol.com) 843-987-0800 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ for sale From: n4829t@aol.com .....Who said I was getting out of formation? :) -----Original Message----- From: cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ for sale In a message dated 11/8/2006 10:04:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, n4829t@aol.com writes: Damn! Just when we thought you were starting to a hang on formation. Ah well. :[ Pappy Troops, I'm starting another project.... so my CJ is now for sale... Please contact me off list. Jim"Launch Pad" Plumlee N31103/CJ-6A N4829T@aol.com 843-987-0800 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:29 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" Sure.... You've got some resistance on the wire between the radio and the battery. That is assuming that you have the radio connected, and are measuring the voltage from some point that feeds the radio. If you want to prove this premise, remove the radio from the mount, and then read the voltage again. If it jumps up to 28 volts with the radio removed, and drops to 3 volts with the radio installed, that is without a doubt... your problem. To find the problem, simply take your voltmeter (with the radio installed) and start working backwards towards the battery/power source. When it goes from 3 back up to 28, the problem is in the middle between those two points. You can also remove the radio, and connect a light bulb (28 volt) from the power pin to ground. It will light dimly if at all. Go back and start jiggling everything. When the light comes on brightly, you have wiggled the right thing! The old light bulb trick is handy in all manner of applications. Shorts AND opens.... For clarification, it would be nice to know where you are measuring the radio voltage from, etc. But ASSUMING (dangerous thing to do) that you are measuring it with the radio installed, and are reading it from a known point that for SURE feeds the radio... then the method described above will work without question. Good luck, Mark Bitterlich N50YK ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:39 Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Hi all, I replaced my old ZIABRIK radio by a new BRIZ (which works perfectly, tested in a lab). But when installed, it sometimes works, sometimes does not. I discovered that I only have 3 volts on the supply wire when switching on the "radio" button on the front panel. First I thought it was the battery, but I checked it, and it's in perfect shape. One of the symptoms : I hear some "clicking" or "ticking" in the headset, and usually after 3 to 4 minutes, it switches on. As if one or another relay tries to switch on ? It's definitely not the new radio, since I am using a provisional bypass, connecting it immediately to the battery - until the problem is solved. The problem is not introduced with the new radio either, since with the old radio, I had the same problem. This is the reason why I was forced to replace the old radio (thinking it was dead). Any idea ? Best regards, Jan Mevis Yak 50 RA2005K ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:38 PM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Thanks, Mark! The point where the radio gets its supply is at a three-connector place just behind the throttle, almost next to the air valve. That's where I measure. The push-to-talk wires go also to one of these points. From this three-connector point the power feed then disappears in a big bunch of cables. >From your explanation, I conclude that there must be a bad wire, making false contacts. Perhaps it's the switch itself on the front panel? Might be dangerous too, I suppose. I'll use your method with a light bulb, much easier than with a multi-meter. Jan RA2005K _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: woensdag 8 november 2006 23:41 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Sure.... You've got some resistance on the wire between the radio and the battery. That is assuming that you have the radio connected, and are measuring the voltage from some point that feeds the radio. If you want to prove this premise, remove the radio from the mount, and then read the voltage again. If it jumps up to 28 volts with the radio removed, and drops to 3 volts with the radio installed, that is without a doubt... your problem. To find the problem, simply take your voltmeter (with the radio installed) and start working backwards towards the battery/power source. When it goes from 3 back up to 28, the problem is in the middle between those two points. You can also remove the radio, and connect a light bulb (28 volt) from the power pin to ground. It will light dimly if at all. Go back and start jiggling everything. When the light comes on brightly, you have wiggled the right thing! The old light bulb trick is handy in all manner of applications. Shorts AND opens.... For clarification, it would be nice to know where you are measuring the radio voltage from, etc. But ASSUMING (dangerous thing to do) that you are measuring it with the radio installed, and are reading it from a known point that for SURE feeds the radio... then the method described above will work without question. Good luck, Mark Bitterlich N50YK _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:39 Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Hi all, I replaced my old ZIABRIK radio by a new BRIZ (which works perfectly, tested in a lab). But when installed, it sometimes works, sometimes does not. I discovered that I only have 3 volts on the supply wire when switching on the "radio" button on the front panel. First I thought it was the battery, but I checked it, and it's in perfect shape. One of the symptoms : I hear some "clicking" or "ticking" in the headset, and usually after 3 to 4 minutes, it switches on. As if one or another relay tries to switch on ? It's definitely not the new radio, since I am using a provisional bypass, connecting it immediately to the battery - until the problem is solved. The problem is not introduced with the new radio either, since with the old radio, I had the same problem. This is the reason why I was forced to replace the old radio (thinking it was dead). Any idea ? 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