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Mon 11/13/06


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     0. 12:40 AM - WLAS [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
     1. 05:36 AM - Re: Shinden33 Rough Running (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 07:39 AM - Looking for Yak Compass (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
     3. 07:57 AM - in the USA Dec (Gpw678@aol.com)
     4. 08:48 AM - Re:  (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     5. 09:02 AM - Re: Yak 50 radio (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     6. 09:38 AM - M-14B's (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     7. 09:50 AM - Re:  (doug sapp)
     8. 10:03 AM - Re: in the USA Dec (Hans Oortman 1)
     9. 10:25 AM - Re: M-14B's (doug sapp)
    10. 10:43 AM - Re: in the USA Dec (Gpw678@aol.com)
    11. 11:10 AM - Re: M-14B's (ANDREWS)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:01 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: WLAS [Please Read]
    Dear Listers, I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year. I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they are to them. I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do, won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch* feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how it works.) Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================ Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!! -Owen B I love The Matronics... -Robeto B My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists! -Hal B These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby. -Bob R The best source of information for my a/c. -Tony C The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning. -Herbert H You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are still an after-the-fact resource. -Ben B ..an excellent site. -Ashley M The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith CH 701 project!! -Brian U I appreciate the list being here for me. -Geoff H ..a great service. -William C The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility. -David M Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project. -Thomas S ..a great service. -Robert W The Pietenpol list is a great resource. -Benjamin W The Yak-list is Awesome! -James S ..great service. -Robert S The features you have implemented recently have you poised to knock out yahoo groups... -Danny D I like how your forum looks/works and the list service... -Ken E ..great service. -David P Very useful web site. -Wayne E ..a very valuable service. -Chris D Great sites... -Randall R I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it. -Wayne E Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark... -Fergus K The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the donation... -Lee P ..great service! -Christopher D I really don't think I could be building my plane without the wisdom I find on this list. -William G It really makes building a pleasure. -James P ..great service. -Doug W I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't think I could have done it with out the help of the forum. -Stanislaus S Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you. -Jim G Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others... -Michael S ..good service. -Derek L The list is responsible for helping me complete this project and educating me in the process. -Jeff D Definitely worth the donation. -Ron L ..great service to the aviation community. -Tony P I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still get valuable information from this service. -Don N A very helpful site. -Roland S It's a great community to be part of. -David L Great sites. -John C A great place to find and share not only information but to meet people across the country and make lasting relationships. -Uncle Craig Great facility. -Peter H Its a great source of information! -Michael W Great improvements to the List... -Edward A Great service!!! -Rich D ..great resource! -William C ..excellent lists! -Michael S Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list. -Warren M ..a great service... -James N I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the building of my Europa. -Svein J ..another great year. -Robert D ..this [is an] essential builder's resource. -David A ..excellent service. -Gregory B I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year and look forward to it every day! -Smith M ..a great communication tool... -Jon M Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on your great list! -Lothar K ..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto place for my RV questions. -Mike D ================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================


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    Time: 05:36:56 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Shinden33 Rough Running
    The fine fuel filter is the black canister above the yellow sphere on the right side of the firewall. On the bottom side of the black canister is a 27 mm nut, usually safety wired. Remove the 27 mm nut and extract the fuel screen. It will be a little tight coming out. Clean the screen with a tooth brush and be sure to inspect the inside of the cap you removed for debris. Make very sure the small rubber O-ring is on the top end of the screen when it comes out and when it goes back in. The American Champion REL37B's are not the plugs in the conversion kit. If you'd like to read about the conversion kit, go to my web site, www.yak-52.com, and click on the MODIFICATIONS button, then click the PLUG CONVERSION button. Or click on the link on the home page. By comparison, the plugs in the conversion kit will cost you about $2 per plug when you have to replace them. ONE Champion REL37B will cost almost as much as 18 plugs. The kits have been shipped all over the world and I have kits in stock. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Shinden33 To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:03 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running To all ye salesman - already have the american plugs. Thanks for the suggestion though. Working on the load testing of the system. Where is the fine fuel filter? S -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICHAEL ROEHR Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:08 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough [LashBack] Running Suggest you also check the fine fuel filter and clean if necessary. The spark plug conversion is definitely the way to go regardless of this problem. Mike Roehr beach@digitalexp.com href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Yak-List


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    Time: 07:39:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Looking for Yak Compass
    From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
    Looking for mag compass for Yak 18, 52, 55 etc. Small round one, ours is cracked. Please contact me off list with details and thanks for the help. Gary Bunn Vector Aviation ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 07:57:11 AM PST US
    From: Gpw678@aol.com
    Subject: in the USA Dec
    Hi all, A friend and I are in the stares for a while in Dec and Jan. We will be without our Yaks for about 6 weeks and already have withdrawal symptoms just thinking about it. Any guys willing to let us pay fuel for some flying with you would be awesome. Would be a welcome break from kids and you know who by then ! Will be in Vegas from 10th to 16th Dec, then Orlando (kissimee) from 16 Dec to 16th Jan. Both living in south Africa with Yaks 52, 18T, BAC Strikemaster jet and a hunter in the UK. Also, if anyone is coming over here, let us know, we have a load of yaks and stuff that you guys are more than welcome to fly with us and see the country (well, a small bit of it) from the air. Thats what the list is all about. cheers for now Ger


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    Time: 08:48:21 AM PST US
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Try Doug Sapp (not sure if they are the same as the CJ-6 uses or not, but some Mag parts are indeed identical), or Vladimir Yastremski. Vladimir's number is: 619-379-1860. Points are rather expensive. Mark Bitterlich N50YK ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT SCHWARTZ Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 19:33 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Jill and Carl don't have them Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net . ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Fox <mailto:jsfox@adelphia.net> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp or Jill and Carl Hayes at M14p Inc. best source. On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:23 PM, ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote: Gentlemen: Need Help: I'm looking for a set of new points for my Yak 52 M14p Mag. Anyone have them? Need ASAP Bob Schwartz Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net <mailto:schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net> -- Please Support Your Lists (And Get Some AWESOME FREE November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click class="Apple-converted-space"> the Contribution link below to this year's Terrific class="Apple-converted-space"> * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com <http://www.aeroelectric.com> * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.buildersbooks.com> * Aeroware Enterprises www.kitlog.com <http://www.kitlog.com> * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com <http://www.homebuilthelp.com> --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your generous class="Apple-converted-space"> - The Yak-List Email Forum - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics . com/Navigator?Yak-List


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    Time: 09:02:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Yak 50 radio
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    There is a general rules that applies to this problem and all other electrical type problems either in airplanes or anyplace else. 1. If any human hand has been messing with anything in the aircraft anywhere NEAR where you now have a problem, look there FIRST. 2. Always look at something that "moves" first... before anything else, when investigating a problem. Switches, relays, etc., all "move". So do any wiring bundles that could flex in flight. The Radio does not have an on/off switch, so it is unlikely to be the radio itself causing this problem if the problem is exactly as you have reported it. Best of luck, Mark Bitterlich ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 0:41 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio My plane, RA2005K, is a Yak 50 too! I will do exactly as you describe it. Thanks ! ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: vrijdag 10 november 2006 0:04 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio I do not own a 52, but a 50. I don't really know the 52 very well, but I will assume you are at the right place! Put a meter on the test point junction you described. Pull the actual R/T and see if the voltage jumps up to 28 volts. If it does, then the problem is between your junction and the source of power. Sure, the switch could indeed be bad. Put radio back in. Turn the switch off. Make sure power go to zero volts at your test point. Now run a wire right to any 28 volt source ... such as straight from the battery. Be safe and put in a 10 amp circuit breaker in line somehow. Hook that new wire to your test point described. See if radio now works perfectly. This will confirm the issue. Remove test wire. TUrn switch off hook light bulb from test point to ground. Turn on switch Light bulb comes on very dimly. (assuming it is not some tiny weenie bulb) now go jiggling wires and switches. When bulb gets really bright.. you found it! Best of luck again. mark CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information, which is confidential to, and/or priviledge in favor of NATEC and its affiliates or customers. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments. Thank you. ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 0:45 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Thanks, Mark! The point where the radio gets its supply is at a three-connector place just behind the throttle, almost next to the air valve. That's where I measure. The push-to-talk wires go also to one of these points. From this three-connector point the power feed then disappears in a big bunch of cables. >From your explanation, I conclude that there must be a bad wire, making false contacts. Perhaps it's the switch itself on the front panel? Might be dangerous too, I suppose. I'll use your method with a light bulb, much easier than with a multi-meter. Jan RA2005K ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: woensdag 8 november 2006 23:41 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Sure.... You've got some resistance on the wire between the radio and the battery. That is assuming that you have the radio connected, and are measuring the voltage from some point that feeds the radio. If you want to prove this premise, remove the radio from the mount, and then read the voltage again. If it jumps up to 28 volts with the radio removed, and drops to 3 volts with the radio installed, that is without a doubt... your problem. To find the problem, simply take your voltmeter (with the radio installed) and start working backwards towards the battery/power source. When it goes from 3 back up to 28, the problem is in the middle between those two points. You can also remove the radio, and connect a light bulb (28 volt) from the power pin to ground. It will light dimly if at all. Go back and start jiggling everything. When the light comes on brightly, you have wiggled the right thing! The old light bulb trick is handy in all manner of applications. Shorts AND opens.... For clarification, it would be nice to know where you are measuring the radio voltage from, etc. But ASSUMING (dangerous thing to do) that you are measuring it with the radio installed, and are reading it from a known point that for SURE feeds the radio... then the method described above will work without question. Good luck, Mark Bitterlich N50YK ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:39 Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio Hi all, I replaced my old ZIABRIK radio by a new BRIZ (which works perfectly, tested in a lab). But when installed, it sometimes works, sometimes does not. I discovered that I only have 3 volts on the supply wire when switching on the "radio" button on the front panel. First I thought it was the battery, but I checked it, and it's in perfect shape. One of the symptoms : I hear some "clicking" or "ticking" in the headset, and usually after 3 to 4 minutes, it switches on. As if one or another relay tries to switch on ? It's definitely not the new radio, since I am using a provisional bypass, connecting it immediately to the battery - until the problem is solved. The problem is not introduced with the new radio either, since with the old radio, I had the same problem. This is the reason why I was forced to replace the old radio (thinking it was dead). Any idea ? 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    Time: 09:38:26 AM PST US
    Subject: M-14B's
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Doug, I have the front nose gearbox off of a 200 hour M-14P. Know anyone who is interested? Should be perfect for converting your B model M-14's. Mark


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    Time: 09:50:56 AM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: E: Yak-List:
    Thanks Mark, I have good used serviceable points only, new points are getting to be like chicken lips. I have found a few sets of new but they are at least 90 days away. And yes they are the same, so are the coils, high tension rod, and many other parts. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:48 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Yak-List: Try Doug Sapp (not sure if they are the same as the CJ-6 uses or not, but some Mag parts are indeed identical), or Vladimir Yastremski. Vladimir's number is: 619-379-1860. Points are rather expensive. Mark Bitterlich N50YK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT SCHWARTZ Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 19:33 To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Jill and Carl don't have them Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net . ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Fox To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp or Jill and Carl Hayes at M14p Inc. best source. On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:23 PM, ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote: Gentlemen: Need Help: I'm looking for a set of new points for my Yak 52 M14p Mag. Anyone have them? Need ASAP Bob Schwartz Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net -- Please Support Your Lists (And Get Some AWESOME FREE November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click class="Apple-converted-space"> the Contribution link below to this year's Terrific class="Apple-converted-space"> * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com * Aeroware Enterprises www.kitlog.com * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your generous - The Yak-List Email Forum - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matron href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/ Navigator?Yak-List


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    Time: 10:03:53 AM PST US
    From: "Hans Oortman 1" <pa3arw@euronet.nl>
    Subject: in the USA Dec
    This must be Gerald Williams, How are you doing mate??? Hans Dutch Yak Pilot _____ Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Gpw678@aol.com Verzonden: maandag 13 november 2006 16:57 Aan: yak-list@matronics.com Onderwerp: Yak-List: in the USA Dec Hi all, A friend and I are in the stares for a while in Dec and Jan. We will be without our Yaks for about 6 weeks and already have withdrawal symptoms just thinking about it. Any guys willing to let us pay fuel for some flying with you would be awesome. Would be a welcome break from kids and you know who by then ! Will be in Vegas from 10th to 16th Dec, then Orlando (kissimee) from 16 Dec to 16th Jan. Both living in south Africa with Yaks 52, 18T, BAC Strikemaster jet and a hunter in the UK. Also, if anyone is coming over here, let us know, we have a load of yaks and stuff that you guys are more than welcome to fly with us and see the country (well, a small bit of it) from the air. Thats what the list is all about. cheers for now Ger


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    Time: 10:25:04 AM PST US
    From: "doug sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: M-14B's
    Mark, Yes I have an interest, please contact me off list. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: M-14B's Doug, I have the front nose gearbox off of a 200 hour M-14P. Know anyone who is interested? Should be perfect for converting your B model M-14's. Mark


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    Time: 10:43:26 AM PST US
    From: Gpw678@aol.com
    Subject: Re: in the USA Dec
    hi hans, things are great. Just finished a formation week here in SA. had 9 Yaks, not bad for a first one. hope you are well mate. ger


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    Time: 11:10:48 AM PST US
    From: "ANDREWS" <dandmaz@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: M-14B's
    Mark, I would be interested in the mp-14 nose gearbox, how much ? Don Andrews (480) 473-7387 N23YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: M-14B's Doug, I have the front nose gearbox off of a 200 hour M-14P. Know anyone who is interested? Should be perfect for converting your B model M-14's. Mark




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