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0. 12:40 AM - WLAS [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
1. 05:36 AM - Re: Shinden33 Rough Running (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 07:39 AM - Looking for Yak Compass (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
3. 07:57 AM - in the USA Dec (Gpw678@aol.com)
4. 08:48 AM - Re: (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
5. 09:02 AM - Re: Yak 50 radio (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
6. 09:38 AM - M-14B's (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
7. 09:50 AM - Re: (doug sapp)
8. 10:03 AM - Re: in the USA Dec (Hans Oortman 1)
9. 10:25 AM - Re: M-14B's (doug sapp)
10. 10:43 AM - Re: in the USA Dec (Gpw678@aol.com)
11. 11:10 AM - Re: M-14B's (ANDREWS)
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Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
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Subject: | Re: Shinden33 Rough Running |
The fine fuel filter is the black canister above the yellow sphere on
the right side of the firewall. On the bottom side of the black
canister is a 27 mm nut, usually safety wired. Remove the 27 mm nut and
extract the fuel screen. It will be a little tight coming out. Clean
the screen with a tooth brush and be sure to inspect the inside of the
cap you removed for debris. Make very sure the small rubber O-ring is
on the top end of the screen when it comes out and when it goes back in.
The American Champion REL37B's are not the plugs in the conversion kit.
If you'd like to read about the conversion kit, go to my web site,
www.yak-52.com, and click on the MODIFICATIONS button, then click the
PLUG CONVERSION button. Or click on the link on the home page. By
comparison, the plugs in the conversion kit will cost you about $2 per
plug when you have to replace them. ONE Champion REL37B will cost
almost as much as 18 plugs. The kits have been shipped all over the
world and I have kits in stock.
Dennis
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
To all ye salesman - already have the american plugs. Thanks for the
suggestion though.
Working on the load testing of the system. Where is the fine fuel
filter?
S
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:08 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough [LashBack] Running
Suggest you also check the fine fuel filter and clean if necessary.
The spark plug conversion is definitely the way to go regardless of this
problem.
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Subject: | Looking for Yak Compass |
Looking for mag compass for Yak 18, 52, 55 etc. Small round one, ours is cracked.
Please contact me off list with details and thanks for the help.
Gary Bunn
Vector Aviation
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Hi all,
A friend and I are in the stares for a while in Dec and Jan.
We will be without our Yaks for about 6 weeks and already have withdrawal
symptoms just thinking about it. Any guys willing to let us pay fuel for some
flying with you would be awesome. Would be a welcome break from kids and you
know who by then !
Will be in Vegas from 10th to 16th Dec, then Orlando (kissimee) from 16 Dec
to 16th Jan.
Both living in south Africa with Yaks 52, 18T, BAC Strikemaster jet and a
hunter in the UK. Also, if anyone is coming over here, let us know, we have a
load of yaks and stuff that you guys are more than welcome to fly with us and
see the country (well, a small bit of it) from the air. Thats what the list is
all about.
cheers for now
Ger
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Try Doug Sapp (not sure if they are the same as the CJ-6 uses or not,
but some Mag parts are indeed identical), or Vladimir Yastremski.
Vladimir's number is: 619-379-1860. Points are rather expensive.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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SCHWARTZ
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 19:33
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
Jill and Carl don't have them
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
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To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
Doug Sapp or Jill and Carl Hayes at M14p Inc. best source.
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:23 PM, ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
Gentlemen:
Need Help: I'm looking for a set of new points for
my Yak 52 M14p Mag. Anyone have them? Need ASAP
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There is a general rules that applies to this problem and all other
electrical type problems either in airplanes or anyplace else.
1. If any human hand has been messing with anything in the aircraft
anywhere NEAR where you now have a problem, look there FIRST.
2. Always look at something that "moves" first... before anything else,
when investigating a problem.
Switches, relays, etc., all "move". So do any wiring bundles that could
flex in flight. The Radio does not have an on/off switch, so it is
unlikely to be the radio itself causing this problem if the problem is
exactly as you have reported it.
Best of luck,
Mark Bitterlich
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 0:41
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio
My plane, RA2005K, is a Yak 50 too!
I will do exactly as you describe it.
Thanks !
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: vrijdag 10 november 2006 0:04
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio
I do not own a 52, but a 50. I don't really know the 52 very well, but
I will assume you are at the right place!
Put a meter on the test point junction you described. Pull the actual
R/T and see if the voltage jumps up to 28 volts. If it does, then the
problem is between your junction and the source of power. Sure, the
switch could indeed be bad.
Put radio back in.
Turn the switch off.
Make sure power go to zero volts at your test point.
Now run a wire right to any 28 volt source ... such as straight from the
battery.
Be safe and put in a 10 amp circuit breaker in line somehow.
Hook that new wire to your test point described. See if radio now works
perfectly.
This will confirm the issue.
Remove test wire.
TUrn switch off
hook light bulb from test point to ground.
Turn on switch
Light bulb comes on very dimly. (assuming it is not some tiny weenie
bulb)
now go jiggling wires and switches.
When bulb gets really bright.. you found it!
Best of luck again.
mark
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 0:45
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio
Thanks, Mark!
The point where the radio gets its supply is at a three-connector place
just behind the throttle, almost next to the air valve. That's where I
measure. The push-to-talk wires go also to one of these points. From
this three-connector point the power feed then disappears in a big bunch
of cables.
>From your explanation, I conclude that there must be a bad wire, making
false contacts. Perhaps it's the switch itself on the front panel?
Might be dangerous too, I suppose. I'll use your method with a light
bulb, much easier than with a multi-meter.
Jan
RA2005K
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: woensdag 8 november 2006 23:41
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio
Sure....
You've got some resistance on the wire between the radio and the
battery. That is assuming that you have the radio connected, and are
measuring the voltage from some point that feeds the radio. If you want
to prove this premise, remove the radio from the mount, and then read
the voltage again. If it jumps up to 28 volts with the radio removed,
and drops to 3 volts with the radio installed, that is without a
doubt... your problem. To find the problem, simply take your voltmeter
(with the radio installed) and start working backwards towards the
battery/power source. When it goes from 3 back up to 28, the problem is
in the middle between those two points.
You can also remove the radio, and connect a light bulb (28 volt) from
the power pin to ground. It will light dimly if at all. Go back and
start jiggling everything. When the light comes on brightly, you have
wiggled the right thing! The old light bulb trick is handy in all
manner of applications. Shorts AND opens....
For clarification, it would be nice to know where you are measuring the
radio voltage from, etc. But ASSUMING (dangerous thing to do) that you
are measuring it with the radio installed, and are reading it from a
known point that for SURE feeds the radio... then the method described
above will work without question.
Good luck,
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:39
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 radio
Hi all,
I replaced my old ZIABRIK radio by a new BRIZ (which works perfectly,
tested in a lab). But when installed, it sometimes works, sometimes does
not.
I discovered that I only have 3 volts on the supply wire when switching
on the "radio" button on the front panel. First I thought it was the
battery, but I checked it, and it's in perfect shape.
One of the symptoms : I hear some "clicking" or "ticking" in the
headset, and usually after 3 to 4 minutes, it switches on. As if one or
another relay tries to switch on ?
It's definitely not the new radio, since I am using a provisional
bypass, connecting it immediately to the battery - until the problem is
solved. The problem is not introduced with the new radio either, since
with the old radio, I had the same problem. This is the reason why I was
forced to replace the old radio (thinking it was dead).
Any idea ?
Best regards,
Jan Mevis
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Doug, I have the front nose gearbox off of a 200 hour M-14P.
Know anyone who is interested? Should be perfect for converting your B
model M-14's.
Mark
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Thanks Mark, I have good used serviceable points only, new points are
getting to be like chicken lips. I have found a few sets of new but they
are at least 90 days away. And yes they are the same, so are the coils,
high tension rod, and many other parts.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:48 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List:
Try Doug Sapp (not sure if they are the same as the CJ-6 uses or not, but
some Mag parts are indeed identical), or Vladimir Yastremski. Vladimir's
number is: 619-379-1860. Points are rather expensive.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
Jill and Carl don't have them
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
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From: Stephen Fox
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
Doug Sapp or Jill and Carl Hayes at M14p Inc. best source.
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:23 PM, ROBERT SCHWARTZ wrote:
Gentlemen:
Need Help: I'm looking for a set of new points for my Yak 52 M14p
Mag. Anyone have them? Need ASAP
Bob Schwartz
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This must be Gerald Williams,
How are you doing mate???
Hans
Dutch Yak Pilot
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Gpw678@aol.com
Verzonden: maandag 13 november 2006 16:57
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Yak-List: in the USA Dec
Hi all,
A friend and I are in the stares for a while in Dec and Jan.
We will be without our Yaks for about 6 weeks and already have withdrawal
symptoms just thinking about it. Any guys willing to let us pay fuel for
some flying with you would be awesome. Would be a welcome break from kids
and you know who by then !
Will be in Vegas from 10th to 16th Dec, then Orlando (kissimee) from 16 Dec
to 16th Jan.
Both living in south Africa with Yaks 52, 18T, BAC Strikemaster jet and a
hunter in the UK. Also, if anyone is coming over here, let us know, we have
a load of yaks and stuff that you guys are more than welcome to fly with us
and see the country (well, a small bit of it) from the air. Thats what the
list is all about.
cheers for now
Ger
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Mark,
Yes I have an interest, please contact me off list.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: M-14B's
Doug, I have the front nose gearbox off of a 200 hour M-14P.
Know anyone who is interested? Should be perfect for converting your B
model M-14's.
Mark
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Subject: | Re: in the USA Dec |
hi hans, things are great.
Just finished a formation week here in SA. had 9 Yaks, not bad for a first
one. hope you are well mate.
ger
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Mark,
I would be interested in the mp-14 nose gearbox, how much ?
Don Andrews
(480) 473-7387
N23YK
----- Original Message -----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:37 AM
Subject: Yak-List: M-14B's
Doug, I have the front nose gearbox off of a 200 hour M-14P.
Know anyone who is interested? Should be perfect for converting your
B model M-14's.
Mark
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