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0. 12:37 AM - List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle)
1. 05:02 AM - Yak-52 accident down under (Richard Goode)
2. 05:26 AM - Re: Yak-52 accident down under (David McGirt)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Yak-52 accident down under (Roger Kemp)
4. 07:35 AM - Re: Anyone know who this is? (Ben Marsh)
5. 07:55 AM - Re: Anyone know who this is? (David McGirt)
6. 10:52 AM - Re: Anyone know who this is? (Roger Kemp)
7. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: Looking for a Yak-52 or CJ-6 (doug sapp)
8. 08:02 PM - Re: Shinden33 Rough Running (Scott T Glaser (E-mail 2))
9. 08:17 PM - Re: Shinden33 Rough Running (ggg6@att.net)
10. 08:18 PM - Re: Shinden33 Rough Running (David McGirt)
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| Subject: | List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! |
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| Subject: | Yak-52 accident down under |
* The lesson to be learnt here is that an inexperienced pilot was
being checked out by an experienced one. The undercarriage was not
lowered
and the aircraft began to hit the runway, inevitably smashing the
propeller.
* The error was then to open up and attempt to take off, although
there was quite a lot of open ground ahead.
* In the event the aircraft just got airborne but crashed into a wood.
* There was some relatively minor injury to the front seat pilot
(being checked out) but had they gone straight into one of the trees,
the
result could have been far more serious.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
Skype: Richard.Goode
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Yak-52 accident down under |
Lastly, Golden Rules of Flying and Skiing are the same, TREES ALWAYS WIN..
:-)
Seriously though, Good summary Richard, thanks.
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:01 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 accident down under
* The lesson to be learnt here is that an inexperienced pilot was
being checked out by an experienced one. The undercarriage was not lowered
and the aircraft began to hit the runway, inevitably smashing the propeller.
* The error was then to open up and attempt to take off, although
there was quite a lot of open ground ahead.
* In the event the aircraft just got airborne but crashed into a wood.
* There was some relatively minor injury to the front seat pilot
(being checked out) but had they gone straight into one of the trees, the
result could have been far more serious.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
Skype: Richard.Goode
<http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Yak-52 accident down under |
Along with Terra Firma. Gotta watch out for those rocks and wing grabbers.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: David McGirt
Sent: 11/27/2006 7:37:56 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-52 accident down under
Lastly, Golden Rules of Flying and Skiing are the same, TREES ALWAYS WIN..
J
Seriously though, Good summary Richard, thanks.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:01 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 accident down under
The lesson to be learnt here is that an inexperienced pilot was being checked out
by an experienced one. The undercarriage was not lowered and the aircraft
began to hit the runway, inevitably smashing the propeller.
The error was then to open up and attempt to take off, although there was quite
a lot of open ground ahead.
In the event the aircraft just got airborne but crashed into a wood.
There was some relatively minor injury to the front seat pilot (being checked out)
but had they gone straight into one of the trees, the result could have been
far more serious.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
Skype: Richard.Goode
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| Subject: | Anyone know who this is? |
All jokes aside, that was a chilling display. The lesson in this is
to have your energy headed away from Mother Earth. Reverse Cuban Eights are
one of the more dangerous maneuvers close to the ground. If you blow it,
you are dead, or extremely lucky.
Take a look and Dennis and Brian Sander's routine in the Sea Fury.
Each maneuver is sequenced to built momentum and take them away from the
unforgiving. Incidentally, having gone through the routine with Brien in a
TMK 20, I can tell you it is awesome. And, the question becomes one of why.
Does the crowd really know the difference between and Cuban Eight and a
reverse? We do, but who's paying the airshow bill?
Some say, I'd rather be lucky than good. However, if you've got
your choice, take'm both.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
Here are some first hand facts from the pilot himself.
He did loose his concentration for 1/2 a second. I believe his exacts words
were "I had a juvenile moment". He did recover the airplane without touching
the planet. He completed his display and flew again the next day (without
the juvenile part...). He was spoken to by the Base commander and told NEVER
to do this again. He was put in the penalty box by ICAS for his action and
decided to quit his ACE duties. He never lost his card and still flies
Warbirds with a unlimited card.
Only to prove it can happen to any one, he has been flying airshow for
nearly 30 years and has over 35 000 hrs in his logbook (yes you read right,
35 000hrs)
D
>From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com>
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:03:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>Losin a waiver card is a whole lot better than the alternative.
>
>cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2006 1:34:50 P.M.
>Eastern Standard Time, aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Yea wryly I do believe I heard he lost his low altitude waiver card.
>They found green grass stains on the prop tips (most likely found brown
>stains in his underwear too) and if it weren't for a depression between the
>runways, he wouldn't have cleared the ground at all.
>
> Pappy
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2PvcG4Vmyw
>
> This guy was pancaking there are the end....had it been an Extra 300, it
>wouldn't have climbed out of that.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Anyone know who this is? |
After speaking to another airshow pilot, he liked the maneuver for a couple
of reasons.
1 - it allowed him to conserve as much energy as possible ( he flys a T-6 )
2 - it allows him to "see" the show line and adjust sooner
Just some thoughts from that point, good lessons learned by all though
David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Marsh
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
All jokes aside, that was a chilling display. The lesson in this is
to have your energy headed away from Mother Earth. Reverse Cuban Eights are
one of the more dangerous maneuvers close to the ground. If you blow it,
you are dead, or extremely lucky.
Take a look and Dennis and Brian Sander's routine in the Sea Fury.
Each maneuver is sequenced to built momentum and take them away from the
unforgiving. Incidentally, having gone through the routine with Brien in a
TMK 20, I can tell you it is awesome. And, the question becomes one of why.
Does the crowd really know the difference between and Cuban Eight and a
reverse? We do, but who's paying the airshow bill?
Some say, I'd rather be lucky than good. However, if you've got
your choice, take'm both.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
Here are some first hand facts from the pilot himself.
He did loose his concentration for 1/2 a second. I believe his exacts words
were "I had a juvenile moment". He did recover the airplane without touching
the planet. He completed his display and flew again the next day (without
the juvenile part...). He was spoken to by the Base commander and told NEVER
to do this again. He was put in the penalty box by ICAS for his action and
decided to quit his ACE duties. He never lost his card and still flies
Warbirds with a unlimited card.
Only to prove it can happen to any one, he has been flying airshow for
nearly 30 years and has over 35 000 hrs in his logbook (yes you read right,
35 000hrs)
D
>From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com>
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:03:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>Losin a waiver card is a whole lot better than the alternative.
>
>cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2006 1:34:50 P.M.
>Eastern Standard Time, aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Yea wryly I do believe I heard he lost his low altitude waiver card.
>They found green grass stains on the prop tips (most likely found brown
>stains in his underwear too) and if it weren't for a depression between the
>runways, he wouldn't have cleared the ground at all.
>
> Pappy
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2PvcG4Vmyw
>
> This guy was pancaking there are the end....had it been an Extra 300, it
>wouldn't have climbed out of that.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Anyone know who this is? |
Any over the top maneuver is dangerous when you miss your altitude and/ or
airspeed at the top. Or if you forget to zero the altimeter, hence missing
your altitude over the top. Turn radius is still turn radius in the
vertical or the horizontal. Still requires energy to complete. Your lift
vector depends on your energy state and that dictates your turn rate.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Ben Marsh <ben@designselect.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 11/27/2006 9:55:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
>
>
> All jokes aside, that was a chilling display. The lesson in this is
> to have your energy headed away from Mother Earth. Reverse Cuban Eights
are
> one of the more dangerous maneuvers close to the ground. If you blow it,
> you are dead, or extremely lucky.
>
> Take a look and Dennis and Brian Sander's routine in the Sea Fury.
> Each maneuver is sequenced to built momentum and take them away from the
> unforgiving. Incidentally, having gone through the routine with Brien in
a
> TMK 20, I can tell you it is awesome. And, the question becomes one of
why.
> Does the crowd really know the difference between and Cuban Eight and a
> reverse? We do, but who's paying the airshow bill?
>
> Some say, I'd rather be lucky than good. However, if you've got
> your choice, take'm both.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:13 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
>
>
> Here are some first hand facts from the pilot himself.
>
> He did loose his concentration for 1/2 a second. I believe his exacts
words
> were "I had a juvenile moment". He did recover the airplane without
touching
>
> the planet. He completed his display and flew again the next day (without
> the juvenile part...). He was spoken to by the Base commander and told
NEVER
>
> to do this again. He was put in the penalty box by ICAS for his action
and
> decided to quit his ACE duties. He never lost his card and still flies
> Warbirds with a unlimited card.
>
> Only to prove it can happen to any one, he has been flying airshow for
> nearly 30 years and has over 35 000 hrs in his logbook (yes you read
right,
> 35 000hrs)
>
> D
>
> >From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com>
> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know who this is?
> >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:03:19 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Losin a waiver card is a whole lot better than the alternative.
> >
> >cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2006 1:34:50
P.M.
>
> >Eastern Standard Time, aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Yea wryly I do believe I heard he lost his low altitude waiver card.
> >They found green grass stains on the prop tips (most likely found brown
> >stains in his underwear too) and if it weren't for a depression between
the
>
> >runways, he wouldn't have cleared the ground at all.
> >
> > Pappy
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2PvcG4Vmyw
> >
> > This guy was pancaking there are the end....had it been an Extra 300,
it
>
> >wouldn't have climbed out of that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a Yak-52 or CJ-6 |
Anyone out there looking for a low time super cub on steroids??
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Glider tow hook
licensed and flying, just get in and fly away.
Contact me off list rvfltd@televar.com or call @ 509-826-4610 for more
info.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:21 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking for a Yak-52 or CJ-6
I can send details if interested, I have one CJ-6 here now and The Yak-53
and two that have been Shipped from China Today, expect them Here, Cal.
December-20.
Jim
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From: Jim
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking for a Yak-52 or CJ-6
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking for a Yak-52 or CJ-6
I have a CJ and a Yak-53 for Sale,
Jim selby
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Hancock
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking for a Yak-52 or CJ-6
Time: 05:49:51 PM PST US
From: "Steven A Johnson" <sajdds@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Looking for Yak 52 or CJ-6
I have a friend looking to purchase a Yak 52 or CJ-6 (he has not
made up his
mind yet). Anyone who knows of an available aircraft please let me
know.
Thanks.
Steve Johnson
Yak 52 N9900X
0B5
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Cheers,
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| Subject: | Shinden33 Rough Running |
Thanks for the advice guys. I've tried everything short of installing the
plug kit. I'm not sure that's the issue.
The roughness seems to be getting worse & I did discover using a laser
thermometer and the WD40 test that the #5, 7 and 9 cylinders seem not to be
firing. We measured the temps of the exhaust stacks just after shut down and
all were 220+ deg except those three which were 112ish. We also did the WD40
test (sprayed WD40 on the exhaust just aft of each cylinder). Again it
showed that these 3 cylinders were not operating properly (WD40 did not
vaporize). I have pulled and checked all the plugs, checked the left mag
(another suspected problem), checked all the wires, checked the fine fuel
filter, checked the carb fuel filter, compression checked all the cylinders
(all 69+/80) and have not found the problem. I've consulted with local
mechanics who seem to be out of ideas. I'm about ready to call in an M14
mechanic. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
Scott
8252
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:36 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
The fine fuel filter is the black canister above the yellow sphere on
the right side of the firewall. On the bottom side of the black canister is
a 27 mm nut, usually safety wired. Remove the 27 mm nut and extract the
fuel screen. It will be a little tight coming out. Clean the screen with a
tooth brush and be sure to inspect the inside of the cap you removed for
debris. Make very sure the small rubber O-ring is on the top end of the
screen when it comes out and when it goes back in.
The American Champion REL37B's are not the plugs in the conversion kit.
If you'd like to read about the conversion kit, go to my web site,
www.yak-52.com, and click on the MODIFICATIONS button, then click the PLUG
CONVERSION button. Or click on the link on the home page. By comparison,
the plugs in the conversion kit will cost you about $2 per plug when you
have to replace them. ONE Champion REL37B will cost almost as much as 18
plugs. The kits have been shipped all over the world and I have kits in
stock.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Shinden33
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
To all ye salesman - already have the american plugs. Thanks for the
suggestion though.
Working on the load testing of the system. Where is the fine fuel
filter?
S
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICHAEL ROEHR
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:08 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough [LashBack] Running
Suggest you also check the fine fuel filter and clean if necessary.
The spark plug conversion is definitely the way to go regardless of this
problem.
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| Subject: | Shinden33 Rough Running |
Have you checked the spark plug leads with a high tension lead tester, it sounds
like the leads may be breaking down under a load... Gary
-------------- Original message from "Scott T Glaser (E-mail 2)" <shinden33@earthlink.net>:
--------------
Thanks for the advice guys. I've tried everything short of installing the plug
kit. I'm not sure that's the issue.
The roughness seems to be getting worse & I did discover using a laser thermometer
and the WD40 test that the #5, 7 and 9 cylinders seem not to be firing. We
measured the temps of the exhaust stacks just after shut down and all were 220+
deg except those three which were 112ish. We also did the WD40 test (sprayed
WD40 on the exhaust just aft of each cylinder). Again it showed that these 3
cylinders were not operating properly (WD40 did not vaporize). I have pulled
and checked all the plugs, checked the left mag (another suspected problem), checked
all the wires, checked the fine fuel filter, checked the carb fuel filter,
compression checked all the cylinders (all 69+/80) and have not found the
problem. I've consulted with local mechanics who seem to be out of ideas. I'm
about ready to call in an M14 mechanic. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
Scott
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
The fine fuel filter is the black canister above the yellow sphere on the right
side of the firewall. On the bottom side of the black canister is a 27 mm nut,
usually safety wired. Remove the 27 mm nut and extract the fuel screen. It
will be a little tight coming out. Clean the screen with a tooth brush and
be sure to inspect the inside of the cap you removed for debris. Make very sure
the small rubber O-ring is on the top end of the screen when it comes out and
when it goes back in.
The American Champion REL37B's are not the plugs in the conversion kit. If you'd like to read about the conversion kit, go to my web site, www.yak-52.com, and click on the MODIFICATIONS button, then click the PLUG CONVERSION button. Or click on the link on the home page. By comparison, the plugs in the conversion kit will cost you about $2 per plug when you have to replace them. ONE Champion REL37B will cost almost as much as 18 plugs. The kits have been shipped all over the world and I have kits in stock.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Shinden33
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
To all ye salesman - already have the american plugs. Thanks for the suggestion
though.
Working on the load testing of the system. Where is the fine fuel filter?
S
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:08 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough [LashBack] Running
Suggest you also check the fine fuel filter and clean if necessary. The spark
plug conversion is definitely the way to go regardless of this problem.
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<DIV></DIV>Have you checked the spark plug leads with a high tension lead tester,
it sounds like the leads may be breaking down under a load... Gary<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=373414908-27112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Thanks for the
ad<SPAN class=041150004-28112006>vice</SPAN> guys. I've tried everything
short of installing the plug kit. I'm not sure that's the issue. </FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=373414908-27112006>The roughness seems
to be getting worse & </SPAN>I did discover using a
laser thermometer and the WD40 test that the #5, 7 and 9 cylinders seem not to
be firing. We measured the temps of the exhaust stacks just after shut down and
all were 220+ deg except those three which were 112ish. We also did the WD40
test (sprayed WD40 on the exhaust just aft of each cylinder). Again it showed
that these 3 cylinders were not operating properly (WD40 did not vaporize).
I have pulled and checked all the plugs, checked the left mag (another suspected
problem), checked all the wires, checked the fine fuel filter, checked the
carb fuel filter, compression checked all the cylinders (all 69+/80) and have
not found the problem. <SPAN class=373414908-27112006>I've consulted with
local mechanics who seem to be out of ideas. </SPAN><SPAN class=373414908-27112006>I'm
about ready to call in an M14 mechani
c.&nbs
p; </SPAN>Let me know if <SPAN class=373414908-27112006>anyone has any suggestions</SPAN>.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=373414908-27112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Scott</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=373414908-27112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>8252</FONT></SPAN></P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>A. Dennis Savarese<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 13, 2006 5:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B> yak-list@matronics.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The fine fuel filter is the black canister above the yellow
sphere on the right side of the firewall. On the bottom side of the black
canister is a 27 mm nut, usually safety wired. Remove the 27 mm nut
and extract the fuel screen. It will be a little tight coming out.
Clean the screen with a tooth brush and be sure to inspect the inside of the
cap you removed for debris. Make very sure the small rubber O-ring is on
the top end of the screen when it comes out and when it goes back in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The American Champion REL37B's are not the plugs in the conversion kit. If you'd like to read about the conversion kit, go to my web site, <A href="http://www.yak-52.com/">www.yak-52.com</A>, and click on the MODIFICATIONS button, then click the PLUG CONVERSION button. Or click on the link on the home page. By comparison, the plugs in the conversion kit will cost you about $2 per plug when you have to replace them. ONE Champion REL37B will cost almost as much as 18 plugs. The kits have been shipped all over the world and I have kits in stock.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dennis</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=shinden33@earthlink.net href="mailto:shinden33@earthlink.net">Shinden33</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=yak-list@matronics.com href="mailto:yak-list@matronics.com">yak-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=979060205-13112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>To all ye salesman
- already have the american plugs. Thanks for the suggestion though.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=979060205-13112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=979060205-13112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Working on the
load testing of the system. Where is the fine fuel filter?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=979060205-13112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=979060205-13112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>S</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Suggest you also check the fine fuel filter and clean if necessary.
The spark plug conversion is definitely the way to go regardless of this problem.
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Scott,
For what it is worth, I had a similar problem with my TW, and went ahead
and did the conversion on the spark plugs, in the process , they found to
bad leads that we part of the problem.. I was getting a 500 RPM drop on one
mag. it slowly got to that point.. anyway, just my .02
David
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott T Glaser
(E-mail 2)
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
Thanks for the advice guys. I've tried everything short of installing the
plug kit. I'm not sure that's the issue.
The roughness seems to be getting worse & I did discover using a laser
thermometer and the WD40 test that the #5, 7 and 9 cylinders seem not to be
firing. We measured the temps of the exhaust stacks just after shut down and
all were 220+ deg except those three which were 112ish. We also did the WD40
test (sprayed WD40 on the exhaust just aft of each cylinder). Again it
showed that these 3 cylinders were not operating properly (WD40 did not
vaporize). I have pulled and checked all the plugs, checked the left mag
(another suspected problem), checked all the wires, checked the fine fuel
filter, checked the carb fuel filter, compression checked all the cylinders
(all 69+/80) and have not found the problem. I've consulted with local
mechanics who seem to be out of ideas. I'm about ready to call in an M14
mechanic. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
Scott
8252
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
The fine fuel filter is the black canister above the yellow sphere on the
right side of the firewall. On the bottom side of the black canister is a
27 mm nut, usually safety wired. Remove the 27 mm nut and extract the fuel
screen. It will be a little tight coming out. Clean the screen with a
tooth brush and be sure to inspect the inside of the cap you removed for
debris. Make very sure the small rubber O-ring is on the top end of the
screen when it comes out and when it goes back in.
The American Champion REL37B's are not the plugs in the conversion kit. If
you'd like to read about the conversion kit, go to my web site,
www.yak-52.com, and click on the MODIFICATIONS button, then click the PLUG
CONVERSION button. Or click on the link on the home page. By comparison,
the plugs in the conversion kit will cost you about $2 per plug when you
have to replace them. ONE Champion REL37B will cost almost as much as 18
plugs. The kits have been shipped all over the world and I have kits in
stock.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Shinden33 <mailto:shinden33@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough Running
To all ye salesman - already have the american plugs. Thanks for the
suggestion though.
Working on the load testing of the system. Where is the fine fuel filter?
S
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICHAEL ROEHR
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:08 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Shinden33 Rough [LashBack] Running
Suggest you also check the fine fuel filter and clean if necessary. The
spark plug conversion is definitely the way to go regardless of this
problem.
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