Yak-List Digest Archive

Sun 12/17/06


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:05 AM - how does the starting coil work exactly (Jan Mevis)
     2. 04:49 AM - Re: Yak-52 intercom (Roger Kemp)
     3. 08:07 AM - Re: Buying YAK-18T (dochoc)
     4. 10:52 AM - Re: how does the starting coil work exactly (Walter Lannon)
     5. 11:27 AM - Ldg strut serviceing (N13472@aol.com)
     6. 11:27 AM - Ldg strut serviceing (N13472@aol.com)
     7. 12:06 PM - Re: Ldg strut serviceing (Walter Lannon)
     8. 12:16 PM - Re: Ldg strut serviceing (Hans Oortman 1)
     9. 05:46 PM - Re: Ldg strut serviceing (Craig Payne)
    10. 06:40 PM - YAK52 struct repair manual (Cornel Gazdaru)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:05:45 AM PST US
    From: "Jan Mevis" <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
    Subject: how does the starting coil work exactly
    Hi all, This has been intriguing to me, so I try to figure out what happens exactly. Is the following reasoning correct, or am I missing it completely? When pushing the start-button, the magnetos are still off. The high-tension starting coil gets current from the battery to its primary winding, and the changing flux causes a high voltage on the secondary winding. The left-hand magneto (front plugs) has a special connection for this coil, and this high tension is immediately conducted to the proper spark plug via the distributor on the left hand magneto. If I understand this well, you get only one spark from the start coil, and you have to switch on the magneto's immediately after hearing one "explosion"? I always thought that there was a sort of "shower of sparks" generator ? Is this system different on the Yak 50 and 52, or even compared with the CJ's ? Jan Mevis Yak50 RA2005K


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    Time: 04:49:04 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Yak-52 intercom
    Karl, The unit is located above the Russian Radio control panel on the right side of your instrument panel. I has two white knobs on it. It is held in the instrument panel by 4 screws. I do not have a schematic for the intercom. Maybe someone else on the list does. If you are kicking off the circuit breaker, it sounds like you have a short in the wiring harness which a whole lot of fun to chase down. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Karl Ahamer Sent: 12/17/2006 1:03:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 intercom Hi everyone, We have a YAK-52 in our club which has developed an intercom problem.As soon us one switches the intercom on, the circuit breaker/switch cuts out. Where is the intercom located in the YAK? Is it part of the radio? Thanks Karl Ahamer Australia -- 16/12/2006


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    Time: 08:07:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Buying YAK-18T
    From: "dochoc" <nicholas.hockley@btinternet.com>
    Hans Have sent you an email. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82074#82074


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    Time: 10:52:17 AM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: how does the starting coil work exactly
    Jan; Your operational description of the boost coil is right on. The spark is continuous (to the distributor starting finger) as long as the button is depressed and the engine would continue to run on the left mag only. Switching to both mags immediately keeps boost coil operation time to a minimum and avoids fouling of the right hand spark plugs. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Mevis To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:04 AM Subject: Yak-List: how does the starting coil work exactly Hi all, This has been intriguing to me, so I try to figure out what happens exactly. Is the following reasoning correct, or am I missing it completely? When pushing the start-button, the magnetos are still off. The high-tension starting coil gets current from the battery to its primary winding, and the changing flux causes a high voltage on the secondary winding. The left-hand magneto (front plugs) has a special connection for this coil, and this high tension is immediately conducted to the proper spark plug via the distributor on the left hand magneto. If I understand this well, you get only one spark from the start coil, and you have to switch on the magneto's immediately after hearing one "explosion"? I always thought that there was a sort of "shower of sparks" generator ? Is this system different on the Yak 50 and 52, or even compared with the CJ's ? Jan Mevis Yak50 RA2005K


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    Time: 11:27:40 AM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Ldg strut serviceing
    Question for all. When you service the main Ldg strut with Nitrogen ( 735 psi ) is it with the plane on its wheels or on the jacks? I can not find any ref to this in the books. Tom Elliott CJ-6 NX63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 11:27:40 AM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Ldg strut serviceing
    Question for all. When you service the main Ldg strut with Nitrogen ( 735 psi ) is it with the plane on its wheels or on the jacks? I can not find any ref to this in the books. Tom Elliott CJ-6 NX63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 12:06:09 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Ldg strut serviceing
    Hi Tom; Either way, doesn't matter. Sruts are fully extended at that pressure with the A/C weight on them. Pressure for mains is 48 ATM (700 psi) and nose 20 ATM (290 psi) Cheers Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: N13472@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com ; yak-list-digest@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Yak-List: Ldg strut serviceing Question for all. When you service the main Ldg strut with Nitrogen ( 735 psi ) is it with the plane on its wheels or on the jacks? I can not find any ref to this in the books. Tom Elliott CJ-6 NX63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 12:16:56 PM PST US
    From: "Hans Oortman 1" <pa3arw@euronet.nl>
    Subject: Ldg strut serviceing
    Doesn't make any difference my friend..Boyles law. Hans _____ Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens N13472@aol.com Verzonden: zondag 17 december 2006 20:27 Aan: yak-list@matronics.com; yak-list-digest@matronics.com Onderwerp: Yak-List: Ldg strut serviceing Question for all. When you service the main Ldg strut with Nitrogen ( 735 psi ) is it with the plane on its wheels or on the jacks? I can not find any ref to this in the books. Tom Elliott CJ-6 NX63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 05:46:21 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ldg strut serviceing
    > > Question for all. When you service the main Ldg strut with Nitrogen ( 735 > psi ) is it with the > plane on its wheels or on the jacks? I can not find any ref to this in the > books. > Depends what you mean by servicing. Checking the fluid level or changing it requires putting the airplane on the jacks and releasing the pressure in the shocks to remove the valve. I say changing it because you on't really know how much is in there without draining out the old. Go by the book when adding a measured amount of fluid and the replace the valve and pressurize. BTW, a bit of Granville strut seal worked wonders for my shocks. Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com


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    Time: 06:40:57 PM PST US
    From: Cornel Gazdaru <cgazdaru@aeromechanica.ca>
    Subject: YAK52 struct repair manual
    Anybody knows how to get a copy of the YAK52 structural repair manual and/or illustrated parts manual. Or something similar if the above do not exist? Romanian version is OK. I can translate it. Thank you Cornel




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