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1. 03:45 AM - Towbars vs Winches (Craig Payne)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Daniel Fortin)
3. 04:55 AM - Brakes failed / air leak (Jorgen Nielsen)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Scooter)
5. 08:09 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Mike Bell)
6. 08:16 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Roger Kemp)
7. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Towbars vs Winches (Roger Kemp)
8. 02:23 PM - dropsy! (cjpilot710@aol.com)
9. 02:50 PM - Happy new year (mougellionel@aol.com)
10. 06:18 PM - Re: Happy new year (Roger Kemp)
11. 06:27 PM - Re: dropsy! (Roger Kemp)
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| Subject: | Towbars vs Winches |
>
>
>From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>
>
>Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping for
>'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
>hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for a
>Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be either.)
>
Val,
Been there done that, ran my left elevator into the T-hanger cutout while being
distracted by a new convert full of questions. My bad, but finding the parts
wasn't easy.
Since then I use an electric winch mounted on the back of the hanger floor, dead
center so it will pull the tail right where I want it. I still have to hop the
nose gear now and then to correct for poor lineup and it is slower, but steady.
Another benefit is that winches are mucho cheaper. Mine is from Harbor Freight
and uses a 12 marine battery from the days when I didn't have power. The
charger gets hooked up on trickle charge so I always have juice.
Of course if you have one of those great big square hangers near your house on
the taxiway, no problem.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Towbars vs Winches |
Back in my medevac pilot days, we had a winch to put the Cheyenne back in
the barn. With 6" clearance on each wingtip, the boss didn't want us to push
it in with the truck. We had the winch pull it an used the tow bar for small
course corrections. Our winch was AC and we had the control switch on a long
cord. The same guy could man the switch and tow bar. Works very well.
D
>From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>To: "yak-list" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:44:25 -0500
>
> >
> >
> >
> >From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
> >
> >
> >Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping for
> >'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
> >hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for a
> >Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be either.)
> >
>Val,
>
>Been there done that, ran my left elevator into the T-hanger cutout while
>being distracted by a new convert full of questions. My bad, but finding
>the parts wasn't easy.
>
>Since then I use an electric winch mounted on the back of the hanger floor,
>dead center so it will pull the tail right where I want it. I still have to
>hop the nose gear now and then to correct for poor lineup and it is slower,
>but steady. Another benefit is that winches are mucho cheaper. Mine is from
>Harbor Freight and uses a 12 marine battery from the days when I didn't
>have power. The charger gets hooked up on trickle charge so I always have
>juice.
>
>Of course if you have one of those great big square hangers near your house
>on the taxiway, no problem.
>
>Craig Payne
>cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Brakes failed / air leak |
Hi All
About a week or 2 back I posted that I developed an air leak which led to
brakes failing. Several people commented, and included advice re stripping
& cleaning the air system, checking shuttle valves, gear actuators etc.
Herewith some feedback.
The fault lay in the shuttle valve at the nose gear actuator. It has that
hard rubber marble inside a t-fitting, at high pressure all was OK, but the
rubber ball had deformed and was out of round so at low pressure it would
not seal, the lower the pressure the MORE it leaked, the higher the pressure
the less or none at all. Simply the high pressure deforming the ball to
form a seal. Popped a new ball in and everything OK. We checked the mains
as well, they had good balls (!) and the system was clean. No gunge or
yukky stuff inside at all. Other factors: Aerie has 560 hours total time
since new (bought new from aerostar) and well looked after by Russian
engineer.
Regards to all on list from South Africa - have a great new year.
Jorgen
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| Subject: | Re: Towbars vs Winches |
I've also had good luck with the winch. I bought the 800lb AC "electric hoist"
from Harbor Freight. Works great and only cost $80. I use a piece of rope with
two loops in it to attach the hook to the tail tie-down.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84655#84655
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| Subject: | Re: Towbars vs Winches |
Val,
Treat yourself and your back to a Powertow. I have used mine on three different Yaks over the last 15 years. Tell them you have a CJ and they will sell you the correct fittings. www.powertow.com (800 635-5565.
Mike Bell
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84666#84666
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| Subject: | Towbars vs Winches |
Craig,
Agree with the wench working well for a single T hanger. I have my YAK
housed with 5 others in one of large square hangers so the wench does not
work for us.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 12/31/2006 6:55:40 AM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>
>
> Back in my medevac pilot days, we had a winch to put the Cheyenne back in
> the barn. With 6" clearance on each wingtip, the boss didn't want us to
push
> it in with the truck. We had the winch pull it an used the tow bar for
small
> course corrections. Our winch was AC and we had the control switch on a
long
> cord. The same guy could man the switch and tow bar. Works very well.
>
> D
>
>
> >From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
> >To: "yak-list" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
> >Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:44:25 -0500
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping for
> > >'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
> > >hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for a
> > >Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be either.)
> > >
> >Val,
> >
> >Been there done that, ran my left elevator into the T-hanger cutout
while
> >being distracted by a new convert full of questions. My bad, but finding
> >the parts wasn't easy.
> >
> >Since then I use an electric winch mounted on the back of the hanger
floor,
> >dead center so it will pull the tail right where I want it. I still have
to
> >hop the nose gear now and then to correct for poor lineup and it is
slower,
> >but steady. Another benefit is that winches are mucho cheaper. Mine is
from
> >Harbor Freight and uses a 12 marine battery from the days when I didn't
> >have power. The charger gets hooked up on trickle charge so I always
have
> >juice.
> >
> >Of course if you have one of those great big square hangers near your
house
> >on the taxiway, no problem.
> >
> >Craig Payne
> >cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Towbars vs Winches |
Val,
Exactly the one we use at Wetumpka for the 52's and have used it without
any difficulty with the occassional transient (interloper) CJ! It fits the
nose wheel on the CJ just fine without any adjustments. Wish it would work
with the 50's tailwheel! Contacted the company directly and sent all the
measurements/pictures they requested but they could not make one. The tow
bar could not lift the tail wheel and safely clear the rudder (for a
reasonable price). Since the 50 is a 1000 lbs lighter than the 52, it is
easier to move around. Besides, I need the exercise anyway.
Does anyone know if the Russians used a tow bar on the tail wheel of the
50? Did they do what the rest of us do, simply push it out of the hanger by
the wing and canopy bow. Then with aviable manpower, shove her back in
again?
I pull her back in with a dragger tow bar that fits around the tail wheel.
Pushing on the tail wheel with the dragger to shove her out can cause the
tail wheel to overcenter damaging the aft bulkhead. At least that has been
my experience.
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Mike Bell <yakflyr@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 12/31/2006 10:15:51 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>
>
> Val,
>
> Treat yourself and your back to a Powertow. I have used mine on three
different Yaks over the last 15 years. Tell them you have a CJ and they
will sell you the correct fittings. www.powertow.com (800 635-5565.
>
> Mike Bell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84666#84666
>
>
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I just watch the full video of Suddam taking the drop. Was not hard to watch
at all. Drawing and quartering would have been better maybe but this will do.
Maybe this is the seamier side of my character which my wife swears borders on
that of a Neanderthal, but in the slow evolution of human kind this is the Darwinian
way of improving the spices. God just made us that way.
Bush is right this will not end the general killing but the bad guys are dyeing
a lot faster than ours. (a GI friend sent me a video clip of some Iraqi who
was about to fire off a RPG. The video was very clear as the rounds that him
were all tracers. Two right though the chest and one though the head)
So my fellow human beings, rejoice in that this coming year we will not have to
hear the babble from him that the press was so eager to report.
Hay Benlouaden! Did you hear they smeared the noose with pig fat?
Well I'm stuck in in ORD with the rain and snow and not able to get on a plane
all day. So much for retirement. Happy New Year Guys and Gals. Now lets get
some flying done!
________________________________________________________________________
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hi
i wish you an happy new year 2007 from france and nice and fun flights for this
year
fly fun
lionel
ASPAM
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Same to you!
Happy New Year! You guys are there now! We are 6 h in trail.
Happy New Year.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 12/31/2006 4:54:00 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Happy new year
hi
i wish you an happy new year 2007 from france and nice and fun flights for this
year
fly fun
lionel
ASPAM
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I'm with you, Pappy! It's that fighter doc with fangs hanging thing! Still feel
we can solve the entire Pursia and Nukes thing by simply giving them a ultimatem.
Give up the nukes or look to the west to Teran at 0200 for your first ever
sunrise in the west! At the sametime your 8 nuke sites will also disappear for
200 million years! Hope you like glass!
Anyway,
Happy New Year! We are winning this thing slowly...unless the Demoncrates turn
tail run.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 12/31/2006 4:27:52 PM
Subject: Yak-List: dropsy!
I just watch the full video of Suddam taking the drop. Was not hard to watch
at all. Drawing and quartering would have been better maybe but this will do.
Maybe this is the seamier side of my character which my wife swears borders on
that of a Neanderthal, but in the slow evolution of human kind this is the Darwinian
way of improving the spices. God just made us that way.
Bush is right this will not end the general killing but the bad guys are dyeing
a lot faster than ours. (a GI friend sent me a video clip of some Iraqi who
was about to fire off a RPG. The video was very clear as the rounds that him
were all tracers. Two right though the chest and one though the head)
So my fellow human beings, rejoice in that this coming year we will not have to
hear the babble from him that the press was so eager to report.
Hay Benlouaden! Did you hear they smeared the noose with pig fat?
Well I'm stuck in in ORD with the rain and snow and not able to get on a plane
all day. So much for retirement. Happy New Year Guys and Gals. Now lets get
some flying done!
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