---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/02/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:17 AM - YAK52 aileron spades (Jacques Bodart) 2. 05:27 AM - Re: Interesting for spam can owners. (Roger Kemp) 3. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: Towbars vs Winches (Herb Coussons) 4. 02:02 PM - Re: YAK52 aileron spades (ADE) 5. 02:31 PM - Barry Hancock et al (ByronMFox@aol.com) 6. 02:41 PM - Re: Barry Hancock et al (Ashley Battles) 7. 03:59 PM - Re: Happy new year (ByronMFox@aol.com) 8. 06:15 PM - Re: Barry Hancock et al (Roger Kemp) 9. 08:13 PM - A little Airline Pilot Humor (David McGirt) 10. 09:43 PM - rough running engine (Don Milbourn) 11. 09:58 PM - Re: rough running engine (L Starace) 12. 10:49 PM - All Red Star VI (Barry Hancock) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:36 AM PST US From: "Jacques Bodart" Subject: Yak-List: YAK52 aileron spades Hi, Does anybody know about aileron spades on a YAK52? I am not speaking off servo tabs like the one fixed on the tips of the aileron but of spades similar to the one we find on Pitts or Bellanca Decatlon. I have seen a YAK52 for sale in the USA with these type of spades installed Many thanks Jacques Bodart(Yak flying group in Belgium) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:12 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Interesting for spam can owners. Yes, saw it on AV web yesterday. Interesting, doubt insurance has anything to do with it. More like they missed something and got bitten by a lawyer for it. Just a guess though. Liability is more likely the cause of this company chosing not to take care of GA A/C older than 15 years. If this takes off, FAA will have to declare all spam cans experimental! That would be good and bad. Bad for those that have not got clue what the difference between a box end and open end wrench is! Nor how to read a tech manual. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 1/1/2007 9:32:58 PM Subject: Yak-List: Interesting for spam can owners. Thought this would be interesting to us in general. Subject: Is Marv Nuss at work again Facilities Wont Work On Airplanes 18 Years Or Older? Aircraft owners in Kansas and parts of the Southwest are worried about a policy adopted by one and possibly two aircraft maintenance providers to refuse to work on aircraft that are 18 years or older. A customer of Kansas City Aviation Center in Olathe, Kan., who asked not to be identified, told AVweb that officials of KCAC, a Piper dealer, told him they would no longer lift a wrench on anything beyond that age, including Piper products. He said he was told by company officials that its an insurance issue. A phone message and an e-mail request for an interview left Friday with KCACs maintenance supervisor were not returned by our deadline, nor was an e-mail request for comment from Piper Aircraft. The time span coincides with the liability limit that forms the crux of the General Aviation Revitalization Act of 1994, the legislation credited with revitalizing GA manufacturing. In a nutshell, the law immunizes aircraft manufacturers and the makers of parts and subcomponen ts from product liability lawsuits after the aircraft reaches the age of 18, or 18 years after the installation of the part. In an analysis of the law that appeared in AVweb in 2001, lawyer Phillip J. Kolczynski wrote that limiting the liability on one party (the manufacturer) necessarily shifts it to others, and among those are mechanics and the shops where they work. A Trend In The Works? After word spread on Web forums about the Kansas situation, at least one other instance of a similar policy was reported in a chain of FBOs that operates in the Southwest. The firm, said to be Cutter Aviation on the Malibu Mirage Owners and Pilots Association online message board, hasnt returned telephone or e-mail message requests for an interview. The Kansas pilot we did speak with told us his main fear is that the policy will spread and could result in owners of older aircraft being unable to obtain service or repairs while traveling. Meanwhile, Kevin Mead, the owner of a shop in Hutchinson, Kan., says he doubts the insurance industry is driving the issue. Meads shop specializes in Piper Malibus, including extensive modifications, and hes heard nothing from his insurance company about an 18-year limit. Theres been no restriction on our insurance, he said. Mead said there are only a few insurance companies that cover aircraft maintenance facilities, so he said its likely that if one had instituted an 18-year limit that others would at least be talking about it. He also noted that liability still remains a major concern in the industry. l?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol" target="_blank">Check ree AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:22 PM PST US From: Herb Coussons Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches I have also looked at the options everyone has mentioned. I like the winch idea as I have had it in a previous hanger - but I cannot put one in my existing hanger due to airport nazi reg's. I did not want to spend the 600-800+ $ on a manufactured tug. I bought a used lawn tractor out of the paper with no mower deck on it then welded up a tailwheel tow bar for the Yak and the Wilga. 200 $ for the tractor and 2 hours to weld up - I assume other tailwheel tow bars are out there (or options for the CJ that could tow from the rear - even options that could unload the nose wheel to help steer. I really like my set up as I am also uphill into the hanger, often ice covered and fly alone half the time. Cheap - works well - I even tow out to the community fuel location then leave the tractor - fly - taxi in to the fuel - tow back into the hanger. My tractor is STC'd for 100LL and I use about 2-3 gallons a year is all (with MMO of course) Herb On Dec 31, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Roger Kemp wrote: > > Val, > Exactly the one we use at Wetumpka for the 52's and have used it > without > any difficulty with the occassional transient (interloper) CJ! It > fits the > nose wheel on the CJ just fine without any adjustments. Wish it > would work > with the 50's tailwheel! Contacted the company directly and sent > all the > measurements/pictures they requested but they could not make one. > The tow > bar could not lift the tail wheel and safely clear the rudder (for a > reasonable price). Since the 50 is a 1000 lbs lighter than the 52, > it is > easier to move around. Besides, I need the exercise anyway. > Does anyone know if the Russians used a tow bar on the tail wheel > of the > 50? Did they do what the rest of us do, simply push it out of the > hanger by > the wing and canopy bow. Then with aviable manpower, shove her back in > again? > I pull her back in with a dragger tow bar that fits around the > tail wheel. > Pushing on the tail wheel with the dragger to shove her out can > cause the > tail wheel to overcenter damaging the aft bulkhead. At least that > has been > my experience. > Doc > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Mike Bell >> To: >> Date: 12/31/2006 10:15:51 AM >> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches >> >> >> Val, >> >> Treat yourself and your back to a Powertow. I have used mine on three > different Yaks over the last 15 years. Tell them you have a CJ and > they > will sell you the correct fittings. www.powertow.com (800 635-5565. >> >> Mike Bell >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84666#84666 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:36 PM PST US From: ADE Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK52 aileron spades Our Yak 52 has spades which wre installed by Les crowder, if you like I can take a couple of pics and send to you---Ade Hale--Tulsa On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:16 AM, Jacques Bodart wrote: > > > Hi, > > Does anybody know about aileron spades on a YAK52? > > I am not speaking off servo tabs like the one fixed on the tips of the > aileron but of spades similar to the one we find on Pitts or Bellanca > Decatlon. > I have seen a YAK52 for sale in the USA with these type of spades > installed > > Many thanks > > Jacques Bodart(Yak flying group in Belgium) > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:34 PM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al Working on my 2007 Program Letter to the FAA. Have dates been set for Desert Thunder IV and All Red Star for 2007? Thanks, Blitz ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:52 PM PST US From: "Ashley Battles" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al While we're on the subject of a Program letter, are there any other Yak clinic or fly-in dates that haven't been posted on the website schedule yet? Ashley Battles -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:25 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al Working on my 2007 Program Letter to the FAA. Have dates been set for Desert Thunder IV and All Red Star for 2007? Thanks, Blitz ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:42 PM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Happy new year Happy New Year to you as well, Lionel. Please stay in touch. ...Blitz ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:54 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al Yes. Red Air III. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Ashley Battles Sent: 1/2/2007 4:46:55 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al While we're on the subject of a Program letter, are there any other Yak clinic or fly-in dates that haven't been posted on the website schedule yet? Ashley Battles -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al Working on my 2007 Program Letter to the FAA. Have dates been set for Desert Thunder IV and All Red Star for 2007? Thanks, Blitz href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:18 PM PST US From: "David McGirt" Subject: Yak-List: A little Airline Pilot Humor Old school, and damn funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KniSmlDr8H8 Enjoy, David ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:39 PM PST US From: "Don Milbourn" Subject: Yak-List: rough running engine Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying and maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months I have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I thought it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it could be the spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question... nope. I still had a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the problem in colder air temperatures (40F). It would happen intermittently, occasionally it has happened on climb out, but it would also happened at cruise and even on the ground, at all throttle settings. Generally when it happened at cruise speed, you could feel it start to come on, it would start with a slight vibration and then a violent vibration that would shake the instrument panel, sometimes with a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until next time. The duration of the rough running was usually less than 5 seconds, not really long enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day it did it four times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no change. When the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you keep it at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the CHT cool down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your shorts if you weren't ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake gland seals... and no more misfire!!! I have been out several times since replacing the Gland Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the CHT down to 160) and it seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland nuts were tight but they would not seal, when they got warm they would seal. It runs smoother has better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest thing with the best improvement I have done to my yak Don Milbourn ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:32 PM PST US From: "L Starace" Subject: RE: Yak-List: rough running engine Contact Michael Carr! mikeacarr at yahoo.com...he has perfected his engine/motor and you'd be impressed! Happy flying to y'all! He's a smart man with alot of experience due to his investigativeness! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Milbourn Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:47 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: rough running engine Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying and maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months I have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I thought it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it could be the spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question... nope. I still had a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the problem in colder air temperatures (40F). It would happen intermittently, occasionally it has happened on climb out, but it would also happened at cruise and even on the ground, at all throttle settings. Generally when it happened at cruise speed, you could feel it start to come on, it would start with a slight vibration and then a violent vibration that would shake the instrument panel, sometimes with a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until next time. The duration of the rough running was usually less than 5 seconds, not really long enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day it did it four times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no change. When the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you keep it at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the CHT cool down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your shorts if you werent ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake gland seals... and no more misfire!!! I have been out several times since replacing the Gland Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the CHT down to 160) and it seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland nuts were tight but they would not seal, when they got warm they would seal. It runs smoother has better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest thing with the best improvement I have done to my yak Don Milbourn ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:31 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star VI From: Barry Hancock Dear Fellow Red Star Comrades...and Blitz... ;)- I hope that 2007 is off to a fine start for you. Here in SoCal it's been in the 70's and CAVU for the last week....heck, I've even been able to fly a time or two! ;) As we begin to plan our year and submit those pesky program letters, I'm pleased to tell you that we have set the dates for ARS VI as May 2-6, 2007. More details to follow, but this year is already shaping up nicely with an F-22 test pilot as our guest speaker, and greater involvement from the city of Porterville. If anyone has any interest in being a part of the volunteer team to help ARS continue to be the best darned warbird fly-in in the country, please contact me directly. We currently have needs in the following areas: -Aircraft judging -Auction donations -Accounting -Ground/Ramp Boss -Flight Scheduling -Evening events -Sponsorship We've really enjoyed the first 5 years of ARS, and look forward to another five! Fly safely, and we'll see you in May! Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "A Unique Aviation Experience" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.