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1. 05:37 AM - Re: searching for yak-drive'rs archives (Craig Payne)
2. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: searching for yak-drive'rs archives (Roger Kemp)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 01/07/07 (Jill Gernetzke)
4. 09:35 AM - Re: Gas leak (Doug Sapp)
5. 12:42 PM - Re: Gas leak (bob)
6. 02:47 PM - Re: Yak Nametags (dochoc)
7. 06:59 PM - Re: Waycross - 2007 (David McGirt)
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| Subject: | Re: searching for yak-drive'rs archives |
Lionel,
Another way to learn about basic CJ mods is to buy my Recommended Mods article
and included M-14P conversion guide now in the RPA store for $15 per download.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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Danged, an I could've had a V8! :>o
Seriously, off list tell me about your smoke tank? aux fuel tank for YAK's.
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
Sent: 1/8/2007 7:45:04 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: searching for yak-drive'rs archives
Lionel,
Another way to learn about basic CJ mods is to buy my Recommended Mods article
and included M-14P conversion guide now in the RPA store for $15 per download.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 01/07/07 |
M-14P, Inc. will be closed from December 24 thru January 7th. Messages
will receive a reply on January 8th. We apologize for any
inconvenience.
Best regards,
Jill
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> 1. 04:49 AM - searching for yak-drive'rs archives
> (mougellionel@aol.com)
> 2. 04:58 AM - Stuka horn (Jerome van der Schaar)
> 3. 06:34 AM - Re: Stuka horn (Gpw678@aol.com)
> 4. 01:06 PM - Gas leak (bob)
> 5. 04:00 PM - Re: Gas leak (PHCarter@aol.com)
> 6. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: Yak Nametags (John fischer)
> 7. 05:45 PM - Re: Gas leak (Yak Pilot)
> 8. 07:55 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 12/26/06 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 9. 07:55 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/28/06 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 10. 07:55 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/27/06 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 11. 07:55 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/29/06 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 12. 07:58 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/30/06 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 13. 07:58 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 12/31/06 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 14. 07:58 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/01/07 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 15. 07:58 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/02/07 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 16. 07:59 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 01/03/07 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 17. 08:03 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/05/07 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 18. 08:03 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/06/07 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
> 19. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: Air tanks (David McGirt)
> 20. 08:37 PM - Doug (peter waddington)
> 21. 08:56 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 01/04/07 (Jill
> Gernetzke)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:49:40 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: searching for yak-drive'rs archives
> From: mougellionel@aol.com
>
> hello,
>
> i have found yak drivers archives from 93 to 98 .i would know if
> another kind
> of archive exist since then . in fact i'm in priority looking for
> special notice
> about the CJ-6 or another modifications docs .
>
> thanks for all
> happy new year
>
> Lionel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 04:58:58 AM PST US
> From: "Jerome van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Stuka horn
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've got the idea to attach a Stuka horn to my Yak during display.
>
> Does anyone got an idea how to:
>
> - build a Stuka horn
> - attach this to the Yak-52
>
> Looking forward to your fabulous idea's.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jerome
> www.yakkes.com
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:34:06 AM PST US
> From: Gpw678@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Stuka horn
>
> what a great idea? that would be awesome in a display.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:06:29 PM PST US
> From: bob <rmfitz@hughes.net>
> Subject: Yak-List: Gas leak
>
>
> Finally found the source of an intermittent gas smell when fuel started
> leaking out of the left wing. There was a 1 1/2" long crack in the
> bottom of the tank along side the middle row of rivets. If you smell
> gas during acro and/or when the tanks are full this is a good place to
> check. It could be why the book says no acro on full tanks.
> FWIW: While the tanks were dry I changed the main hoses and cleaned
> the fine fuel filter. It took 100 strokes of the primer to get fuel
> pressure after filling the left tank. After that, starting and run up
> were normal (ran 18min). I can now report that the engine will run
> with
> one tank completely dry on the ground.
> I'll let someone else confirm this in the air.
>
> bob
> 52BN
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
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> Time: 04:00:03 PM PST US
> From: PHCarter@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gas leak
>
> Bob
>
> How did you repair the tank? I had this problem 18 months ago and
> repaired
> by welding. 6 months ago, the same leak reappeared at the same
> location. The
>
> crack grew straight across the weld (perpendicular) in a slightly
> different
> location. Rather then rewelding I tried gas tank epoxy and added a
> brace
> between the tank and the wing panel to take the "oil canning" stress
> off the tank.
>
> It has held so far, but from time to time I imagine (falsely) a leak
> is back.
>
> Would like to compare notes on how you repaired crack.
>
> Preston
> N6209F
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 05:15:13 PM PST US
> From: "John fischer" <fish@aviation-tech.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak Nametags
>
>
> Mr Hockley,
>
> Yes I can send to the UK, approx postage $3.00. I need your name the
> way you
> want it spelled on the nametag and a shipping address.
>
> I accept cash, check or paypal (no credit cards with PayPal).
>
> Thak You
> John Fischer
> P.O. Box 2294
> California City, CA 93504
>
>
>>
>> Hi John
>>
>> Look good.Can you send out to the UK?
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85589#85589
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:45:48 PM PST US
> From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gas leak
>
> On Aluminum tanks, I highly recommend 8802 fuel sealing compound or
> the equivalent.
> I believe Aircraft Spruce sells its. I have been using it on military
> aircraft
> fuel leaks since Vietnam and can tell you that it works.... GOOD.
>
> I put some on a crack on the acro fuel tank in my YAK-50 back in
> 1999. It still
> is holding perfectly.
>
> Some people will tell you that the only way to repair a tank is by
> welding.
> Welding works just fine if you get someone who knows what they are
> doing, and
> does not blow out the thin metal used on the Russian tanks (for
> example). You
> also must remove the tank and purge it for this type of repair.
>
> Using 8802, you just clean the tank to bare metal, use a preparation
> etcher fluid,
> glob it on there, and it's done. 8802 is a two part compound. It
> dries
> to a hard rubber feel, not solid. It can flex.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
> PHCarter@aol.com wrote:
> Bob
>
> How did you repair the tank? I had this problem 18 months ago and
> repaired by
> welding. 6 months ago, the same leak reappeared at the same location.
> The
> crack grew straight across the weld (perpendicular) in a slightly
> different location.
> Rather then rewelding I tried gas tank epoxy and added a brace between
> the tank and the wing panel to take the "oil canning" stress off the
> tank.
> It has held so far, but from time to time I imagine (falsely) a leak
> is back.
> Would like to compare notes on how you repaired crack.
>
> Preston
> N6209F
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:55:10 PM PST US
> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 12/26/06
>
>
> M-14P, Inc. will be closed from December 24 thru January 7th. Messages
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> inconvenience.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jill
>
> On Dec 27, 2006, at 12:58 AM, Yak-List Digest Server
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>> 1. 05:51 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/25/06 (Jill
>> Gernetzke)
>> 2. 07:49 AM - Re: Waycross - 2007 (FamilyGage@aol.com)
>> 3. 07:57 AM - Re: Yak-52 intercom (Valkyre1)
>> 4. 08:47 AM - Re: Waycross - 2007 (Roger Kemp)
>> 5. 09:02 AM - Re: Waycross - 2007 (Roger Kemp)
>> 6. 09:42 AM - Re: Waycross - 2007 Chute Packing (Shane Golden)
>> 7. 10:59 AM - Re: Yak-52 intercom (Scooter)
>> 8. 11:59 AM - Re: Yak-52 intercom (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> 9. 12:18 PM - Re: Vals CJ annual and our "overhaul" and prop
>> domes (Doug Sapp)
>> 10. 12:42 PM - SNF Reservations (Craig Payne)
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>> Time: 05:51:29 AM PST US
>> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/25/06
>>
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>>> 1. 10:01 AM - Re: New Red Star AirplaneLinedog sighting
>>> (Valkyre1)
>>> 2. 02:50 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/24/06 (Jill
>>> Gernetzke)
>>> 3. 05:32 PM - Waycross - 2007 (David McGirt)
>>> 4. 07:08 PM - Re: Waycross - 2007 (Shane Golden)
>>> 5. 07:42 PM - Re: Waycross - 2007 (David McGirt)
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 1
>>> _____________________________________
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>>>
>>> Time: 10:01:33 AM PST US
>>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: New Red Star AirplaneLinedog sighting
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas to all, and "Vostrovia!" A very Happy New Year to
>>> all
>>> of us "Yak Red Stars". See you in '07.
>>>
>>> Dasvidanya,
>>> - Val
>>>
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>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 02:50:58 PM PST US
>>> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/24/06
>>>
>>>
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>>> Best regards,
>>>
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>>>
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>>>>
>>>> 1. 09:03 AM - New Red Star Airplane (Jeff Linebaugh)
>>>> 2. 12:17 PM - Re: New Red Star Airplane (Roger Kemp)
>>>> 3. 03:37 PM - Merry Christmas (and Seasons Greetings) to all
>>>> (Craig Payne)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 1
>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 09:03:41 AM PST US
>>>> From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: New Red Star Airplane
>>>>
>>>> Barry, Doc, and all
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is true I am finally making noise again in a RedStar
>>>> airplane
>>>> I
>>>> have been busy brushing off the rust hoping to make a good showing
>>>> at
>>>> Waycross. Doc was mostly correctalthough its an F1 Rocket, not a
>>>> Harmon
>>>> (sorta like ID-ing a CJ as a Yak) As Barry knows from his Legacy,
>>>> its
>>>> pretty fun zorching around at 200kts, although I do miss the sound
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>> M14P.
>>>>
>>>> If anybody is interested, here is a link to some shots of the new
>>>> machine
>>>> from last weekend.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rocket-boys.com/shows/RocketDaughters/default.htm
>>>>
>>>> Merry Christmas and Safe Skies for all our Yak friends in the New
>>>> Year! See
>>>> you at AYS!
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Linebaugh
>>>> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>>>> F1 Rocket #33 N240KT
>>>> Memphis, TN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 02:16:56 PM PST US
>>>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Linedog sighting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's now learning what it's like to ride a tricycle backwards at 90
>>>> mph! He
>>>> has a Harmon Rocket. Painted in atleast the Red Star mandatory paint
>>>> scheme! It has a RED STAR on the tail and wings. Actually, it is a
>>>> good
>>>> looking airplane for a non radial that is!
>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 2
>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 12:17:19 PM PST US
>>>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Red Star Airplane
>>>>
>>>> Errr...stand corrected...was that a Lycoming or a Contenital? :>))
>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
>>>> Even if you did go for a flat engine. You know you are going to miss
>>>> that vibration
>>>> of that M-14P in those ol' bones!
>>>> Good looking airplane you have there. Can't wait to see her at
>>>> Waycross!
>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Jeff Linebaugh
>>>> Sent: 12/24/2006 11:12:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: New Red Star Airplane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barry, Doc, and all
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is true I am finally making noise again in a RedStar
>>>> airplane
>>>> I have been
>>>> busy brushing off the rust hoping to make a good showing at
>>>> Waycross.
>>>> Doc
>>>> was mostly correctalthough its an F1 Rocket, not a Harmon (sorta
>>>> like
>>>> ID-ing a
>>>> CJ as a Yak) As Barry knows from his Legacy, its pretty fun zorching
>>>> around at
>>>> 200kts, although I do miss the sound of the M14P.
>>>>
>>>> If anybody is interested, here is a link to some shots of the new
>>>> machine from
>>>> last weekend.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rocket-boys.com/shows/RocketDaughters/default.htm
>>>>
>>>> Merry Christmas and Safe Skies for all our Yak friends in the New
>>>> Year! See you
>>>> at AYS!
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Linebaugh
>>>> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>>>> F1 Rocket #33 N240KT
>>>> Memphis, TN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 02:16:56 PM PST US
>>>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Linedog sighting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's now learning what it's like to ride a tricycle backwards at 90
>>>> mph! He
>>>> has a Harmon Rocket. Painted in atleast the Red Star mandatory paint
>>>> scheme! It has a RED STAR on the tail and wings. Actually, it is a
>>>> good
>>>> looking airplane for a non radial that is!
>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 3
>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 03:37:39 PM PST US
>>>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: Merry Christmas (and Seasons Greetings) to all
>>>>
>>>> Hope everyone is enjoying quality time at home. Family and friends
>>>> of
>>>> course; but
>>>> then there is that stack of catalogs filled with aviation goodies
>>>> and
>>>> a printout
>>>> of Doug's parts list to peruse As I compose my annual program
>>>> letter
>>>> for
>>>> the FSDO guys, my thoughts range through the variety of
>>>> opportunities
>>>> we now
>>>> enjoy as RedStars, it's beginning to become a brand name on the
>>>> airshow circuit.
>>>> Was not always that way.
>>>>
>>>> Tough day down here South of I-4, a little senior citizen acro up
>>>> and
>>>> down between
>>>> the scattered layer, working up a G-induced sweat in the 80+ degree
>>>> humidity,
>>>> forcing me to open the canopy and let the breeze do it's thing.
>>>> Those
>>>> poor
>>>> guys waiting for take-off clearance, all sealed up in their spam
>>>> cans
>>>> as I execute
>>>> my 360 with the breeze blowing in. Do they know what they are
>>>> missing?
>>>>
>>>> Craig Payne
>>>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 3
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 05:32:40 PM PST US
>>> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> Do you know if you will have a parachute packer there? I know I am
>>> not the
>>> only one out there of the 30+ pilots coming that might need a chute
>>> packed..
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 4
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 07:08:31 PM PST US
>>> From: "Shane Golden" <scgsmg@bellsouth.net>
>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> We can have a chute packer there. Y'all let me know if you're
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
>>> McGirt
>>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 8:32 PM
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> Do you know if you will have a parachute packer there? I know I am
>>> not the
>>> only one out there of the 30+ pilots coming that might need a chute
>>> packed..
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 5
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 07:42:40 PM PST US
>>> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> I know I would be in for 2 chutes, and I THINK Tim Williams would
>>> have
>>> 2,
>>> everyone else sounds off..
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shane
>>> Golden
>>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> We can have a chute packer there. Y'all let me know if you're
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
>>> McGirt
>>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 8:32 PM
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> Do you know if you will have a parachute packer there? I know I am
>>> not the
>>> only one out there of the 30+ pilots coming that might need a chute
>>> packed..
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:49:56 AM PST US
>> From: FamilyGage@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>
>> Shane:
>>
>> Count me in for two chutes. Look forward to seeing the RPA gang.
>> Hope that everyone had a wonderful Christmas (we did), and that 2007
>> will be
>> fantastic.
>>
>> My Best,
>> Ray Gage
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:57:23 AM PST US
>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 intercom
>>
>> - A problem that I hope someone can help me to rectify before going up
>> again . . . My CJ has a hot-mic and an M14 engine. I don't know if
>> it's my high-pitch female voice, the new headsets, or operator error,
>> but ever since I've acquired the aircraft, I have problems with my
>> transmissions cutting out intermittently while I'm speaking on the
>> intercom. I don't know if it's doing the same with ATC or not. Any
>> ideas on this? (I've tried adjusting the squelch. Maybe I just need
>> to
>> try harder, but it's really aggravating to me as well as the poor soul
>> sitting in back.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Val
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:47:30 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>
>>
>> Was just thinking about that. We have a guy here a 08A that is now
>> certified to pack seat packs. Problem is he works for the Army at Fort
>> Rucker during the week test flying helicopters. So he is tied up
>> sometimes
>> doing his job down in Daleville, Al but his family lives on the lake
>> near
>> Wetumpka.
>> Dave, I will check to see if he can do it between now and Waycross. He
>> likes to air the chute for a day before inspecting and repacking it.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Shane Golden <scgsmg@bellsouth.net>
>>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: 12/25/2006 9:14:00 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> We can have a chute packer there. Y'all let me know if you're
>> interested.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
>>> McGirt
>>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 8:32 PM
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane,
>>>
>>> Do you know if you will have a parachute packer there? I know I am
>>> not
>> the
>>> only one out there of the 30+ pilots coming that might need a chute
>> packed..
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:02:23 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>
>> Ray,
>> Good to hear you got your ticker back on line and in sink! See ya at
>> Waycross,
>> if I get an engine rehung and the test time flown off.
>> Merry Christmas
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Sent: 12/26/2006 9:55:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>
>>
>> Shane:
>>
>> Count me in for two chutes. Look forward to seeing the RPA gang.
>> Hope that everyone had a wonderful Christmas (we did), and that 2007
>> will be fantastic.
>>
>> My Best,
>> Ray Gage
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:42:21 AM PST US
>> From: "Shane Golden" <scgsmg@bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007 Chute Packing
>>
>> Looks like we may have a gal from Strong parachutes available to pack
>> chutes
>> at Waycross.
>>
>>
>> Standby.
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> Good to hear you got your ticker back on line and in sink! See ya at
>> Waycross, if I get an engine rehung and the test time flown off.
>>
>> Merry Christmas
>>
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: <mailto:FamilyGage@aol.com>
>>
>>
>> Sent: 12/26/2006 9:55:01 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007
>>
>>
>> Shane:
>>
>>
>> Count me in for two chutes. Look forward to seeing the RPA gang.
>>
>> Hope that everyone had a wonderful Christmas (we did), and that 2007
>> will be
>> fantastic.
>>
>>
>> My Best,
>>
>> Ray Gage
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:59:00 AM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52 intercom
>> From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>>
>>
>> What kind of headset/mic and intercom? You might want to try the old
>> headset and
>> try your new headset in the back seat. Can you hear it when your
>> transmission
>> cuts out or is the gib telling you this?
>>
>>
>> [quote="Valkyre1(at)comcast.net"]- A problem that I hope someone can
>> help me to
>> rectify before going up again . . . My CJ has a hot-mic and an M14
>> engine.
>> I don't know if it's my high-pitch female voice, the new headsets,
>> or operator
>> error, but ever since I've acquired the aircraft, I have problems
>> with my
>> transmissions cutting out intermittently while I'm speaking on the
>> intercom.
>> I don't know if it's doing the same with ATC or not. Any ideas on
>> this?
>> (I've tried adjusting the squelch. Maybe I just need to try harder,
>> but it's
>> really aggravating to me as well as the poor soul sitting in back.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Val
>>
>>> [b]
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83609#83609
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 11:59:50 AM PST US
>> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 intercom
>>
>> Val,
>> Are you using active noise canceling headsets?
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Valkyre1
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 intercom
>>
>>
>> - A problem that I hope someone can help me to rectify before going
>> up
>> again . . . My CJ has a hot-mic and an M14 engine. I don't know if
>> it's my high-pitch female voice, the new headsets, or operator error,
>> but ever since I've acquired the aircraft, I have problems with my
>> transmissions cutting out intermittently while I'm speaking on the
>> intercom. I don't know if it's doing the same with ATC or not. Any
>> ideas on this? (I've tried adjusting the squelch. Maybe I just need
>> to
>> try harder, but it's really aggravating to me as well as the poor soul
>> sitting in back.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Val
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:18:49 PM PST US
>> From: Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Vals CJ annual and our "overhaul" and prop
>> domes
>>
>> Drew,
>> I have the prop dome and piston in stock, new or used. Also used
>> hubs,
>> new hubs, and most any prop part you might need to breath life back
>> into
>> your old hub. Contact me off line if you still need the parts.
>>
>> Also, any truth to the rumor that you are good old honest Andrew's new
>> best pal for CJ's on the east coast now ??
>>
>> Always Yakin,
>> Doug Sapp
>>
>> Drew Blahnick wrote:
>>
>>> Val, down here in Florida this started as a thourough annual on this
>>> CJ here in Del Ray beach and quickly turned in to a front to rear
>>> overhaul - I pulled the water-sep from the firewall to get an early
>>> idea and it was growing a biology experiment (well, the organisms had
>>> long past died sometime in the mid-triassic...) one air gage plugged
>>> and non working due to crud, others reading like split packs on the
>>> 757 at cruise ;) (the gage and curved lines to the valves acted like
>>> a dead end sump in the system, and was a nice pilot indicator this
>>> system was internally mucked beyond fubar, we blew out some
>>> crystalyzed gunk from these lines, few anywhere else and replaced the
>>> tanks)...but a key issue I found was a fully rusted out and inop
>>> emergency check valve..with the others in need of cleaning and
>>> attention...
>>>
>>> If your air system was infiltrated bad, you may want to inspect these
>>> firewall check valves (batch 23 I think has them all firewall
>>> mounted), pricey new ($60), but the springs and seats in ours were
>>> down for the count, that alone is not an expensive replacement at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Now on to the leaky prop...anyone got a line on outter domes for the
>>> chinese 2 blade? This one appears shot as is (scored), we have all
>>> the
>>> seals from Doug and it's all that should be keeping her from
>>> Waycross...I assume Doug and/or Bill has the domes...in fact, anyone
>>> around the east have a youthful 2-blade or components they want to
>>> unload?
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Valkyre1 <Valkyre1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andre,
>>>
>>> I just had the first annual inspection done on my CJ6 with the
>>> Russian
>>> M14P....
>>> engine. I had Dennis Savarese come out to Salt Lake City and train me
>>> while I assisted in the annual. He is very thorough, to say nothing
>>> of
>>> knowledgeable and it was some of the best money I have ever spent. We
>>> had a
>>> great time although we did work our proverbial butts off in a cold
>>> hanger.
>>>
>>> On my last flight before the annual, I couldn't get the gear up.
>>> There
>>> was
>>> a pneumatic leak hissing on the firewall, which I found in a worn
>>> connection
>>> on the T-fitting (Doug Sapp sent me what I needed to replace it).
>>> That
>>> also
>>> led to my taking the stainless steel water separator apart to replace
>>> the
>>> filters. I had just recently purchased the aircraft from an
>>> impeccably
>>> thorough owner and it's upkeep was immaculate. That was why I was so
>>> surprised to find about a teaspoon of rust on one side and a teaspoon
>>> of
>>> mineral deposits on the other. Of course I cleaned it all out and
>>> replaced
>>> the filters as well as running pipe cleaners through the tubing to
>>> try
>>> to
>>> determine if they had rust in them. They didn't... but it had to come
>>> from
>>> somewhere.
>>>
>>> We found the culprit when Dennis (Da' Godfadder) and I checked the
>>> main
>>> air
>>> tank. It was filled with rust, a potentially really bad thing.
>>> Needless
>>> to
>>> say, Doug got more business when I ordered a new one. Dennis said
>>> that
>>> it
>>> appeared that this condition occurred with the owner previous to the
>>> one I
>>> purchased my airplane from, which made sense.
>>>
>>> Well, Dennis is back home in his warn little nest in Alabama and I'm
>>> just
>>> waiting for warmer weather to go take my extra large baggage
>>> compartment and
>>> super-dooper smoke system out so that I can get to the air tank and
>>> replace
>>> it. Again, for relatively little cost and immense rewards in getting
>>> to
>>> know your engine, I would highly recommend having Dennis Savarese
>>> come
>>> out
>>> and give you the course he teaches.
>>>
>>> Best of luck, Happy Holidays, and fly safe'
>>>
>>> Valkyrie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Yak-List Digest Server"
>>> Sent: Thursday,
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:42:59 PM PST US
>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: SNF Reservations
>>
>> Just got my new WB magazine, dated September? Anyway, it contains the
>> room reservation
>> form for lodging at the Winter Haven Holiday Inn. Same place as the
>> last
>> 4 or 5 years now. WB pilot priority is granted through February 1st.
>> After
>> that it is open to other warbird members until March 15th. Failing
>> that there
>> is the HoJo next door with a Cypress Gardens address.
>>
>> This years' event starts a little later: April 17th.
>>
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:55:10 PM PST US
> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/28/06
>
>
> M-14P, Inc. will be closed from December 24 thru January 7th. Messages
> will receive a reply on January 8th. We apologize for any
> inconvenience.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jill
>
> On Dec 29, 2006, at 12:58 AM, Yak-List Digest Server
> <yak-list@matronics.com> wrote:
>
>> *
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>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 03:51 AM - SNF Changes (Craig Payne)
>> 2. 03:56 AM - More SNF News (Craig Payne)
>> 3. 05:27 AM - Re: (Valkyre1)
>> 4. 05:57 AM - Re: (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> 5. 07:17 AM - Propeller (JOE HOWSE)
>> 6. 04:26 PM - New web site for goodies (Craig Payne)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:51:20 AM PST US
>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: SNF Changes
>>
>> 2007 SNF Attendees,
>>
>> Check out this article in the local paper, the flight line will be
>> "open" to anyone
>> who buys a ticket, no more checking wristbands at the flightline.
>>
>> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061228/NEWS/
>> 612280447/1039
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:56:52 AM PST US
>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: More SNF News
>>
>> Those of us who fly at Sun n Fun or Oshkosh may remember Wayne Boggs;
>> he has a
>> new job at SNF now.
>>
>> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061228/NEWS/
>> 612280427
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:27:15 AM PST US
>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>>
>> Thanks Linedog. That about narrows it down. I had already purchased
>> two Flightcom 4DLX Classic headsets before I bought CJ or I would have
>> taken your advice on the Oregon Aero Muffs. It looks like it may well
>> be just operator error and the inevitable hearing loss that comes with
>> flying jets for 30 years. (LOL) I'll fiddle with it until I get it
>> right .
>>
>> - V
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:57:34 AM PST US
>> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>>
>> Val,
>> The Oregon Aero ear muffs will fit perfectly on the 4DLX's. Simply
>> remove the current ear cushions and replace them with the Oregon Aero
>> #20005. http://www.oregonaero.com/p606162_2001.html#softseal . They
>> are
>> well worth the price.
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Valkyre1
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Linedog. That about narrows it down. I had already
>> purchased
>> two Flightcom 4DLX Classic headsets before I bought CJ or I would have
>> taken your advice on the Oregon Aero Muffs. It looks like it may well
>> be just operator error and the inevitable hearing loss that comes with
>> flying jets for 30 years. (LOL) I'll fiddle with it until I get it
>> right .
>>
>> - V
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:17:21 AM PST US
>> From: JOE HOWSE <joeh@shaw.ca>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Propeller
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> I have two fresh OH props ready to ship, 2000.00 each.
>>
>> I now have a Yak 18 T
>>
>> Joe Howse
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:26:43 PM PST US
>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: New web site for goodies
>>
>> For Yak/CJ goodies you won't find anywhere else, try my new web site:
>> http://home.joimail.com/~cpayne1/
>>
>> Let me know if it breaks, I'm still tuning it.
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:55:10 PM PST US
> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/27/06
>
>
> M-14P, Inc. will be closed from December 24 thru January 7th. Messages
> will receive a reply on January 8th. We apologize for any
> inconvenience.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jill
>
> On Dec 28, 2006, at 12:58 AM, Yak-List Digest Server
> <yak-list@matronics.com> wrote:
>
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>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
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>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
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>> Total Messages Posted Wed 12/27/06: 5
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 05:34 AM - "Hot Mic" CJ (Jeff Linebaugh)
>> 2. 06:24 AM - Re: Vals CJ annual and our (Valkyre1)
>> 3. 10:59 AM - Re: Waycross - 2007 Chute Packing
>> (F16ftrplt@aol.com)
>> 4. 02:53 PM - Randy DeVere (ByronMFox@aol.com)
>> 5. 06:15 PM - Re: Vals CJ annual and our "overhaul" and prop
>> domes (Jim Selby)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:34:08 AM PST US
>> From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: "Hot Mic" CJ
>>
>> Val,
>>
>> As the previous owner, I can assure you that there were plenty of
>> high-pitched voices through your intercom with nary a problem We also
>> used
>> several different types of headsets over the years, ANR and PNR,
>> without a
>> hitch. If you are having trouble with the intercom cutting you out,
>> then it
>> is not a hot-mic trouble but sounds more like a squelch adjustment
>> problem.
>>
>> Your intercom (PS Eng PMA 1000) is among the best around in
>> attenuating the
>> high M14P noise. Please remember there are two squelch (and volume)
>> adjustments, one for each seat. The left outer knob controls the
>> front seat
>> squelch, the right outer knob adjusts the back seat. Volume is
>> adjusted
>> with the smaller inner knobs. If you are hearing a lot of background
>> noise,
>> it may be the rear seat squelch that is the culprit. Also, note that
>> if you
>> adjust the squelch on the ground, it is completely normal to need to
>> increase the squelch after getting airborne (turn the outer knobs
>> clockwise.) Most people choose to leave the squelch at a nominal value
>> that
>> works well while airborne, without having to yell on the ground to
>> break
>> squelch. By turning the squelch all the way clockwise, you should be
>> able
>> to completely squelch out the intercom positions. ATC will hear you
>> regardless of the squelch position, if you push the PTT switch, If
>> the
>> intercom is cutting you out, then either turn the left squelch knob
>> slightly
>> counter-clockwise, or speak louder.
>>
>> Could the new headsets be the source of trouble? What type are you
>> using?
>> Are you using the Oregon Aero Mic Muffs I suggested on the headsets?
>> They
>> are the ones with the leather outer cover over a foam inner filter.
>> They do
>> a lot to reduce the amount of background noise, reducing the squelch
>> requiredyou used one when you came to fly with my the first time. I
>> think
>> most on this list would agree they work wonders; Id try them to see if
>> they
>> help.
>>
>> Hope this helped
>>
>> Jeff Linebaugh
>> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>> the previous owner
>>
>> Time: 07:57:23 AM PST US
>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 intercom
>>
>> - A problem that I hope someone can help me to rectify before going up
>> again . . . My CJ has a hot-mic and an M14 engine. I don't know if
>> it's my high-pitch female voice, the new headsets, or operator error,
>> but ever since I've acquired the aircraft, I have problems with my
>> transmissions cutting out intermittently while I'm speaking on the
>> intercom. I don't know if it's doing the same with ATC or not. Any
>> ideas on this? (I've tried adjusting the squelch. Maybe I just need
>> to
>> try harder, but it's really aggravating to me as well as the poor soul
>> sitting in back.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Val
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:24:38 AM PST US
>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Vals CJ annual and our
>>
>> Thanks Drew.
>>
>> Re: the check valves and gunk in the water separator, etc: I did find
>> a
>> pellet of it in the firewall mounted T-fitting where two check valves
>> are and sent it to Doug Sapp where we both decided to replace the
>> whole
>> thing, and I did. So far I haven't experienced any problems with
>> strange gage readings, but I haven't had it airborne since the
>> inspection. Could you do me a favor and briefly list the valves that
>> you are suggesting I take off and inspect, their location on the
>> CJ/M14
>> and how the heck do I "blow out" the lines? (I'm still fairly new at
>> this and don't want to make anything worse than it may or may not be).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Val
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:59:18 AM PST US
>> From: F16ftrplt@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross - 2007 Chute Packing
>>
>> Shane
>> I was going to send my 2 to get repacked. If we can have them
>> repacked in
>> Waycross that would be great.
>> Med
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:53:16 PM PST US
>> From: ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Randy DeVere
>>
>> Please contact me off list, Bear. Thanks, Blitz
>>
>>
>> Byron M. Fox
>> 80 Milland Drive
>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>> Home 415-380-0907
>> Cell 415-307-2405
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:15:53 PM PST US
>> From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Vals CJ annual and our "overhaul" and prop
>> domes
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Doug Sapp
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Vals CJ annual and our "overhaul" and prop
>> domes
>>
>>
>> Drew,
>> I have the prop dome and piston in stock, new or used. Also used
>> hubs, new hubs, and most any prop part you might need to breath life
>> back into your old hub. Contact me off line if you still need the
>> parts.
>>
>> Also, any truth to the rumor that you are good old honest Andrew's
>> new
>> best pal for CJ's on the east coast now ??
>>
>> Always Yakin,
>> Doug Sapp
>>
>> Drew Blahnick wrote:
>>
>> Val, down here in Florida this started as a thourough annual on
>> this
>> CJ here in Del Ray beach and quickly turned in to a front to rear
>> overhaul - I pulled the water-sep from the firewall to get an early
>> idea
>> and it was growing a biology experiment (well, the organisms had long
>> past died sometime in the mid-triassic...) one air gage plugged and
>> non
>> working due to crud, others reading like split packs on the 757 at
>> cruise ;) (the gage and curved lines to the valves acted like a dead
>> end sump in the system, and was a nice pilot indicator this system was
>> internally mucked beyond fubar, we blew out some crystalyzed gunk from
>> these lines, few anywhere else and replaced the tanks)...but a key
>> issue
>> I found was a fully rusted out and inop emergency check valve..with
>> the
>> others in need of cleaning and attention...
>>
>> If your air system was infiltrated bad, you may want to inspect
>> these firewall check valves (batch 23 I think has them all firewall
>> mounted), pricey new ($60), but the springs and seats in ours were
>> down
>> for the count, that alone is not an expensive replacement at all.
>>
>> Now on to the leaky prop...anyone got a line on outter domes for
>> the
>> chinese 2 blade? This one appears shot as is (scored), we have all the
>> seals from Doug and it's all that should be keeping her from
>> Waycross...I assume Doug and/or Bill has the domes...in fact, anyone
>> around the east have a youthful 2-blade or components they want to
>> unload?
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>> Valkyre1 <Valkyre1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Andre,
>>
>> I just had the first annual inspection done on my CJ6 with the
>> Russian
>> M14P....
>> engine. I had Dennis Savarese come out to Salt Lake City and train
>> me
>> while I assisted in the annual. He is very thorough, to say
>> nothing
>> of
>> knowledgeable and it was some of the best money I have ever spent.
>> We
>> had a
>> great time although we did work our proverbial butts off in a cold
>> hanger.
>>
>> On my last flight before the annual, I couldn't get the gear up.
>> There
>> was
>> a pneumatic leak hissing on the firewall, which I found in a worn
>> connection
>> on the T-fitting (Doug Sapp sent me what I needed to replace it).
>> That
>> also
>> led to my taking the stainless steel water separator apart to
>> replace
>> the
>> filters. I had just recently purchased the aircraft from an
>> impeccably
>> thorough owner and it's upkeep was immaculate. That was why I was
>> so
>>
>> surprised to find about a teaspoon of rust on one side and a
>> teaspoon
>> of
>> mineral deposits on the other. Of course I cleaned it all out and
>> replaced
>> the filters as well as running pipe cleaners through the tubing to
>> try
>> to
>> determine if they had rust in them. They didn't... but it had to
>> come
>> from
>> somewhere.
>>
>> We found the culprit when Dennis (Da' Godfadder) and I checked the
>> main
>> air
>> tank. It was filled with rust, a potentially really bad thing.
>> Needless
>> to
>> say, Doug got more business when I ordered a new one. Dennis said
>> that
>> it
>> appeared that this condition occurred with the owner previous to
>> the
>>
>> one I
>> purchased my airplane from, which made sense.
>>
>> Well, Dennis is back home in his warn little nest in Alabama and
>> I'm
>>
>> just
>> waiting for warmer weather to go take my extra large baggage
>> compartment and
>> super-dooper smoke system out so that I can get to the air tank
>> and
>> replace
>> it. Again, for relatively little cost and immense rewards in
>> getting
>> to
>> know your engine, I would highly recommend having Dennis Savarese
>> come
>> out
>> and give you the course he teaches.
>>
>> Best of luck, Happy Holidays, and fly safe'
>>
>> Valkyrie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yak-List Digest Server"
>> Sent: Thursday,
>>
>>
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> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/29/06
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>> 1. 05:25 AM - Re: New web site for goodies (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> 2. 06:30 AM - Oregon Aero MIC Muffs (Jeff Linebaugh)
>> 3. 09:50 AM - Developemental History of CJ6A (Jim Bernier)
>> 4. 12:29 PM - Re: Developemental History of CJ6A (Phil Cogan)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:25:50 AM PST US
>> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: New web site for goodies
>>
>> Nice job Craig. Some really useful products too.
>> Dennis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Craig Payne
>> To: yak-list
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:24 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: New web site for goodies
>>
>>
>> For Yak/CJ goodies you won't find anywhere else, try my new web
>> site:
>> http://home.joimail.com/~cpayne1/
>>
>> Let me know if it breaks, I'm still tuning it.
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:30:30 AM PST US
>> From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Oregon Aero MIC Muffs
>>
>> Val,
>>
>> The Oregon Aero Mic Muffs will fit just about ANY headset mic I am
>> not
>> talking about the ear cushions here, Dennis, (although they sure are
>> nice
>> too!) this is a noise attenuator for the microphone. It just slips
>> over the
>> mic and is held in place by an elastic band. I believe they have
>> different
>> sizes depending on the mic size I know I am not the only one using
>> these
>> things- they are cheap and work well.
>>
>> Here is a link to the explanation of how they work on their website:
>>
>> http://oregonaero.com/p5657_2001.html
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Jeff Linebaugh
>> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>> F1 Rocket #33 N240KT
>> Memphis, TN.
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:57:34 AM PST US
>> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>>
>> Val,
>> The Oregon Aero ear muffs will fit perfectly on the 4DLX's. Simply
>> remove the current ear cushions and replace them with the Oregon Aero
>> #20005. http://www.oregonaero.com/p606162_2001.html#softseal . They
>> are
>> well worth the price.
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Valkyre1
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Linedog. That about narrows it down. I had already
>> purchased
>> two Flightcom 4DLX Classic headsets before I bought CJ or I would have
>> taken your advice on the Oregon Aero Muffs. It looks like it may well
>> be just operator error and the inevitable hearing loss that comes with
>> flying jets for 30 years. (LOL) I'll fiddle with it until I get it
>> right .
>>
>> - V
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:50:51 AM PST US
>> From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Developemental History of CJ6A
>>
>> To All
>> I've attached a copy of an excerpt from "China Today: Aviation
>> Industry".
>> This will either give you a heads up on the CJ or reconfirm what you
>> already know.
>> Enjoy, Jim B.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:29:24 PM PST US
>> From: "Phil Cogan" <zeromold@earthlink.net>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Developemental History of CJ6A
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jim.
>>
>> Here's a version that's a bit more legible. I think I'll print a few
>> copies
>> and leave them in the plane so I can give them to people who want to
>> know
>> more about the CJ-6.
>>
>> Phil Cogan
>> Shortbus
>>
>>
>
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> ____________________________________
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> Time: 07:58:18 PM PST US
> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/30/06
>
>
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>> 1. 12:39 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/29/06
>> (Cj6sly@cs.com)
>> 2. 05:29 AM - Re: Propeller (Steve & Donna Hanshew)
>> 3. 07:47 AM - Re: Oregon Aero MIC Muffs (Valkyre1)
>> 4. 08:49 AM - Re: Propeller (JOE HOWSE)
>> 5. 01:25 PM - Huosai tach driver for sale (david stroud)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:39:53 AM PST US
>> From: Cj6sly@cs.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/29/06
>>
>> In a message dated 12/30/2006 1:01:28 AM Mountain Standard Time,
>> yak-list@matronics.com writes:
>>>
>>> Time: 09:50:51 AM PST US
>>> From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Developemental History of CJ6A
>>>
>>> To All
>>> I've attached a copy of an excerpt from "China Today: Aviation
>>> Industry".
>>> This will either give you a heads up on the CJ or reconfirm what you
>>> already know.
>>> Enjoy, Jim B.
>> WELL. What did I miss? is there an attachment?
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:29:10 AM PST US
>> From: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew@cinci.rr.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Propeller
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Are they J-9s?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JOE HOWSE
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:11 AM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Propeller
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> I have two fresh OH props ready to ship, 2000.00 each.
>>
>> I now have a Yak 18 T
>>
>> Joe Howse
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:47:43 AM PST US
>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oregon Aero MIC MuffsYak-List:
>>
>> Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping
>> for
>> 'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
>> hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for a
>> Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be
>> either.)
>>
>>
>> Val
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:49:44 AM PST US
>> From: JOE HOWSE <joeh@shaw.ca>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeller
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Yes, both J9-G1, stock CJ6-A.
>> All new seals, re-cad plated steel parts, tested , balanced and
>> certified.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:25:03 PM PST US
>> From: "david stroud" <dstroud@storm.ca>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Huosai tach driver for sale
>>
>> Anyone on the list need a tach driver for the Huosai engine? I found a
>> direct
>> drive adapter and therefore the electric one is surplus to me. Email
>> off
>> list
>> to dstroud@storm.ca if interested. PN GZ-14 Thanks..
>>
>> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
>> C-FDWS Christavia
>> Fairchild 51 under construction
>> and on the gear...
>>
>>
>
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> Time: 07:58:37 PM PST US
> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 12/31/06
>
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>>
>> 1. 03:45 AM - Towbars vs Winches (Craig Payne)
>> 2. 04:51 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Daniel Fortin)
>> 3. 04:55 AM - Brakes failed / air leak (Jorgen Nielsen)
>> 4. 05:48 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Scooter)
>> 5. 08:09 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Mike Bell)
>> 6. 08:16 AM - Re: Towbars vs Winches (Roger Kemp)
>> 7. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Towbars vs Winches (Roger Kemp)
>> 8. 02:23 PM - dropsy! (cjpilot710@aol.com)
>> 9. 02:50 PM - Happy new year (mougellionel@aol.com)
>> 10. 06:18 PM - Re: Happy new year (Roger Kemp)
>> 11. 06:27 PM - Re: dropsy! (Roger Kemp)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:45:15 AM PST US
>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping for
>>> 'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
>>> hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for a
>>> Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be
>>> either.)
>>>
>> Val,
>>
>> Been there done that, ran my left elevator into the T-hanger cutout
>> while being
>> distracted by a new convert full of questions. My bad, but finding the
>> parts
>> wasn't easy.
>>
>> Since then I use an electric winch mounted on the back of the hanger
>> floor, dead
>> center so it will pull the tail right where I want it. I still have to
>> hop the
>> nose gear now and then to correct for poor lineup and it is slower,
>> but steady.
>> Another benefit is that winches are mucho cheaper. Mine is from Harbor
>> Freight
>> and uses a 12 marine battery from the days when I didn't have power.
>> The
>> charger gets hooked up on trickle charge so I always have juice.
>>
>> Of course if you have one of those great big square hangers near your
>> house on
>> the taxiway, no problem.
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:51:20 AM PST US
>> From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>>
>>
>> Back in my medevac pilot days, we had a winch to put the Cheyenne back
>> in
>> the barn. With 6" clearance on each wingtip, the boss didn't want us
>> to push
>> it in with the truck. We had the winch pull it an used the tow bar for
>> small
>> course corrections. Our winch was AC and we had the control switch on
>> a long
>> cord. The same guy could man the switch and tow bar. Works very well.
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>>> To: "yak-list" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:44:25 -0500
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping
>>>> for
>>>> 'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
>>>> hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for
>>>> a
>>>> Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be
>>>> either.)
>>>>
>>> Val,
>>>
>>> Been there done that, ran my left elevator into the T-hanger cutout
>>> while
>>> being distracted by a new convert full of questions. My bad, but
>>> finding
>>> the parts wasn't easy.
>>>
>>> Since then I use an electric winch mounted on the back of the hanger
>>> floor,
>>> dead center so it will pull the tail right where I want it. I still
>>> have to
>>> hop the nose gear now and then to correct for poor lineup and it is
>>> slower,
>>> but steady. Another benefit is that winches are mucho cheaper. Mine
>>> is from
>>> Harbor Freight and uses a 12 marine battery from the days when I
>>> didn't
>>> have power. The charger gets hooked up on trickle charge so I always
>>> have
>>> juice.
>>>
>>> Of course if you have one of those great big square hangers near your
>>> house
>>> on the taxiway, no problem.
>>>
>>> Craig Payne
>>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:55:29 AM PST US
>> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Brakes failed / air leak
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>>
>> About a week or 2 back I posted that I developed an air leak which led
>> to
>> brakes failing. Several people commented, and included advice re
>> stripping
>> & cleaning the air system, checking shuttle valves, gear actuators
>> etc.
>> Herewith some feedback.
>>
>>
>> The fault lay in the shuttle valve at the nose gear actuator. It has
>> that
>> hard rubber marble inside a t-fitting, at high pressure all was OK,
>> but the
>> rubber ball had deformed and was out of round so at low pressure it
>> would
>> not seal, the lower the pressure the MORE it leaked, the higher the
>> pressure
>> the less or none at all. Simply the high pressure deforming the ball
>> to
>> form a seal. Popped a new ball in and everything OK. We checked the
>> mains
>> as well, they had good balls (!) and the system was clean. No gunge
>> or
>> yukky stuff inside at all. Other factors: Aerie has 560 hours total
>> time
>> since new (bought new from aerostar) and well looked after by Russian
>> engineer.
>>
>>
>> Regards to all on list from South Africa - have a great new year.
>>
>>
>> Jorgen
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:48:41 AM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>> From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
>>
>>
>> I've also had good luck with the winch. I bought the 800lb AC
>> "electric hoist"
>> from Harbor Freight. Works great and only cost $80. I use a piece of
>> rope with
>> two loops in it to attach the hook to the tail tie-down.
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84655#84655
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:09:25 AM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>> From: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
>>
>>
>> Val,
>>
>> Treat yourself and your back to a Powertow. I have used mine on three
>> different Yaks over the last 15 years. Tell them you have a CJ and
>> they will sell you the correct fittings. www.powertow.com (800
>> 635-5565.
>>
>> Mike Bell
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84666#84666
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:16:26 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>>
>>
>> Craig,
>> Agree with the wench working well for a single T hanger. I have my YAK
>> housed with 5 others in one of large square hangers so the wench does
>> not
>> work for us.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: 12/31/2006 6:55:40 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>>>
>>>
>>> Back in my medevac pilot days, we had a winch to put the Cheyenne
>>> back in
>>> the barn. With 6" clearance on each wingtip, the boss didn't want us
>>> to
>> push
>>> it in with the truck. We had the winch pull it an used the tow bar
>>> for
>> small
>>> course corrections. Our winch was AC and we had the control switch on
>>> a
>> long
>>> cord. The same guy could man the switch and tow bar. Works very well.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Craig Payne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>>>> To: "yak-list" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: Towbars vs Winches
>>>> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:44:25 -0500
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Valkyre1" <Valkyre1@comcast.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent! Thanks you two. I'll be doing some after Xmas shopping
>>>>> for
>>>>> 'Chang and that goes on the list. That, and a powered tow bar. ( My
>>>>> hanger entry has a slight uphill grade and the tow bar I bought for
>>>>> a
>>>>> Beechcraft bent on the CJ. - My back isn't what it used to be
>>>>> either.)
>>>>>
>>>> Val,
>>>>
>>>> Been there done that, ran my left elevator into the T-hanger cutout
>> while
>>>> being distracted by a new convert full of questions. My bad, but
>>>> finding
>>>> the parts wasn't easy.
>>>>
>>>> Since then I use an electric winch mounted on the back of the hanger
>> floor,
>>>> dead center so it will pull the tail right where I want it. I still
>>>> have
>> to
>>>> hop the nose gear now and then to correct for poor lineup and it is
>> slower,
>>>> but steady. Another benefit is that winches are mucho cheaper. Mine
>>>> is
>> from
>>>> Harbor Freight and uses a 12 marine battery from the days when I
>>>> didn't
>>>> have power. The charger gets hooked up on trickle charge so I always
>> have
>>>> juice.
>>>>
>>>> Of course if you have one of those great big square hangers near
>>>> your
>> house
>>>> on the taxiway, no problem.
>>>>
>>>> Craig Payne
>>>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:57:05 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>>
>>
>> Val,
>> Exactly the one we use at Wetumpka for the 52's and have used it
>> without
>> any difficulty with the occassional transient (interloper) CJ! It fits
>> the
>> nose wheel on the CJ just fine without any adjustments. Wish it would
>> work
>> with the 50's tailwheel! Contacted the company directly and sent all
>> the
>> measurements/pictures they requested but they could not make one. The
>> tow
>> bar could not lift the tail wheel and safely clear the rudder (for a
>> reasonable price). Since the 50 is a 1000 lbs lighter than the 52, it
>> is
>> easier to move around. Besides, I need the exercise anyway.
>> Does anyone know if the Russians used a tow bar on the tail wheel of
>> the
>> 50? Did they do what the rest of us do, simply push it out of the
>> hanger by
>> the wing and canopy bow. Then with aviable manpower, shove her back in
>> again?
>> I pull her back in with a dragger tow bar that fits around the tail
>> wheel.
>> Pushing on the tail wheel with the dragger to shove her out can cause
>> the
>> tail wheel to overcenter damaging the aft bulkhead. At least that has
>> been
>> my experience.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Mike Bell <yakflyr@comcast.net>
>>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: 12/31/2006 10:15:51 AM
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>>>
>>>
>>> Val,
>>>
>>> Treat yourself and your back to a Powertow. I have used mine on three
>> different Yaks over the last 15 years. Tell them you have a CJ and
>> they
>> will sell you the correct fittings. www.powertow.com (800 635-5565.
>>>
>>> Mike Bell
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84666#84666
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:23:39 PM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: dropsy!
>> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
>>
>> I just watch the full video of Suddam taking the drop. Was not hard
>> to watch
>> at all. Drawing and quartering would have been better maybe but this
>> will do.
>>
>> Maybe this is the seamier side of my character which my wife swears
>> borders on
>> that of a Neanderthal, but in the slow evolution of human kind this is
>> the Darwinian
>> way of improving the spices. God just made us that way.
>>
>> Bush is right this will not end the general killing but the bad guys
>> are dyeing
>> a lot faster than ours. (a GI friend sent me a video clip of some
>> Iraqi who
>> was about to fire off a RPG. The video was very clear as the rounds
>> that him
>> were all tracers. Two right though the chest and one though the head)
>>
>> So my fellow human beings, rejoice in that this coming year we will
>> not have to
>> hear the babble from him that the press was so eager to report.
>>
>> Hay Benlouaden! Did you hear they smeared the noose with pig fat?
>>
>> Well I'm stuck in in ORD with the rain and snow and not able to get on
>> a plane
>> all day. So much for retirement. Happy New Year Guys and Gals. Now
>> lets get
>> some flying done!
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> _
>> _
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:50:09 PM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Happy new year
>> From: mougellionel@aol.com
>>
>> hi
>>
>> i wish you an happy new year 2007 from france and nice and fun flights
>> for this
>> year
>>
>> fly fun
>>
>>
>> lionel
>> ASPAM
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:18:06 PM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Happy new year
>>
>> Same to you!
>> Happy New Year! You guys are there now! We are 6 h in trail.
>> Happy New Year.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Sent: 12/31/2006 4:54:00 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Happy new year
>>
>>
>> hi
>>
>> i wish you an happy new year 2007 from france and nice and fun flights
>> for this
>> year
>>
>> fly fun
>>
>>
>> lionel
>> ASPAM
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 11
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:27:40 PM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: dropsy!
>>
>> I'm with you, Pappy! It's that fighter doc with fangs hanging thing!
>> Still feel
>> we can solve the entire Pursia and Nukes thing by simply giving them a
>> ultimatem.
>> Give up the nukes or look to the west to Teran at 0200 for your first
>> ever
>> sunrise in the west! At the sametime your 8 nuke sites will also
>> disappear for
>> 200 million years! Hope you like glass!
>> Anyway,
>> Happy New Year! We are winning this thing slowly...unless the
>> Demoncrates turn
>> tail run.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Sent: 12/31/2006 4:27:52 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: dropsy!
>>
>>
>> I just watch the full video of Suddam taking the drop. Was not hard
>> to watch
>> at all. Drawing and quartering would have been better maybe but this
>> will do.
>>
>> Maybe this is the seamier side of my character which my wife swears
>> borders on
>> that of a Neanderthal, but in the slow evolution of human kind this is
>> the Darwinian
>> way of improving the spices. God just made us that way.
>>
>> Bush is right this will not end the general killing but the bad guys
>> are dyeing
>> a lot faster than ours. (a GI friend sent me a video clip of some
>> Iraqi who
>> was about to fire off a RPG. The video was very clear as the rounds
>> that him
>> were all tracers. Two right though the chest and one though the head)
>>
>> So my fellow human beings, rejoice in that this coming year we will
>> not have to
>> hear the babble from him that the press was so eager to report.
>>
>> Hay Benlouaden! Did you hear they smeared the noose with pig fat?
>>
>> Well I'm stuck in in ORD with the rain and snow and not able to get on
>> a plane
>> all day. So much for retirement. Happy New Year Guys and Gals. Now
>> lets get
>> some flying done!
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
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> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/01/07
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>> 1. 07:20 PM - Interesting for spam can owners.
>> (cjpilot710@aol.com)
>> 2. 09:10 PM - Re: Yak 52 For Sale (Mike Bell)
>> 3. 11:35 PM - Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
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>> Time: 07:20:56 PM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Interesting for spam can owners.
>> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
>>
>>
>> Thought this would be interesting to us in general.
>>
>> Subject: Is Marv Nuss at work again
>>
>>
>> Facilities Won=99t Work On Airplanes 18 Years Or Older?
>> Aircraft owners in Kansas and parts of the Southwest are worried about
>> a pol
>> icy adopted by one and possibly two aircraft maintenance providers to
>> refuse
>> to work on aircraft that are 18 years or older. A customer of Kansas
>> City A
>> viation Center in Olathe, Kan., who asked not to be identified, told
>> AVweb t
>> hat officials of KCAC, a Piper dealer, told him they would no longer
>> lift a
>> wrench on anything beyond that age, including Piper products. He said
>> he was
>> told by company officials that it=99s an insurance issue. A phone mes
>> sage and an e-mail request for an interview left Friday with KCAC=99s
>> maintenance supervisor were not returned by our deadline, nor was an
>> e-mail
>> request for comment from Piper Aircraft. The time span coincides with
>> the li
>> ability limit that forms the crux of the General Aviation
>> Revitalization Act
>> of 1994, the legislation credited with revitalizing GA manufacturing.
>> In a
>> nutshell, the law immunizes aircraft manufacturers and the makers of
>> parts a
>> nd subcomponents from product liability lawsuits after the aircraft
>> reaches
>> the age of 18, or 18 years after the installation of the part. In an
>> analysi
>> s of the law that appeared in AVweb in 2001, lawyer Phillip J.
>> Kolczynski wr
>> ote that limiting the liability on one party (the manufacturer)
>> necessarily
>> shifts it to others, and among those are mechanics and the shops where
>> they
>> work.
>> A Trend In The Works?
>> After word spread on Web forums about the Kansas situation, at least
>> one oth
>> er instance of a similar policy was reported in a chain of FBOs that
>> operate
>> s in the Southwest. The firm, said to be Cutter Aviation on the Malibu
>> Mirag
>> e Owners and Pilots Association online message board, hasn=99t returne
>> d telephone or e-mail message requests for an interview. The Kansas
>> pilot we
>> did speak with told us his main fear is that the policy will spread
>> and cou
>> ld result in owners of older aircraft being unable to obtain service
>> or repa
>> irs while traveling. Meanwhile, Kevin Mead, the owner of a shop in
>> Hutchinso
>> n, Kan., says he doubts the insurance industry is driving the issue.
>> Mead
>> =99s shop specializes in Piper Malibus, including extensive modificati
>> ons, and he=99s heard nothing from his insurance company about an 18-y
>> ear limit. =9CThere=99s been no restriction on our insurance,
>> =9D he said. Mead said there are only a few insurance companies that c
>> over aircraft maintenance facilities, so he said it=99s likely that if
>> one had instituted an 18-year limit that others would at least be
>> talking a
>> bout it. He also noted that liability still remains a major concern in
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>> Time: 09:10:27 PM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak 52 For Sale
>> From: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr@comcast.net>
>>
>>
>> Sold the Yak to Rich Artwohl. It just made an uneventful little
>> cross-country from
>> California to Illinois. It will be based at Aurora. All you guys,
>> especially
>> in Chicagoland please welcome Rich to the group.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84938#84938
>>
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>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
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>>
>> Time: 11:35:42 PM PST US
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>> Subject: Yak-List: Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines
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> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/02/07
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>> 1. 03:17 AM - YAK52 aileron spades (Jacques Bodart)
>> 2. 05:27 AM - Re: Interesting for spam can owners. (Roger Kemp)
>> 3. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: Towbars vs Winches (Herb Coussons)
>> 4. 02:02 PM - Re: YAK52 aileron spades (ADE)
>> 5. 02:31 PM - Barry Hancock et al (ByronMFox@aol.com)
>> 6. 02:41 PM - Re: Barry Hancock et al (Ashley Battles)
>> 7. 03:59 PM - Re: Happy new year (ByronMFox@aol.com)
>> 8. 06:15 PM - Re: Barry Hancock et al (Roger Kemp)
>> 9. 08:13 PM - A little Airline Pilot Humor (David McGirt)
>> 10. 09:43 PM - rough running engine (Don Milbourn)
>> 11. 09:58 PM - Re: rough running engine (L Starace)
>> 12. 10:49 PM - All Red Star VI (Barry Hancock)
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>> ________________________________ Message 1
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>> Time: 03:17:36 AM PST US
>> From: "Jacques Bodart" <jacques.bodart@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: YAK52 aileron spades
>>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anybody know about aileron spades on a YAK52?
>>
>> I am not speaking off servo tabs like the one fixed on the tips of the
>> aileron but of spades similar to the one we find on Pitts or Bellanca
>> Decatlon.
>> I have seen a YAK52 for sale in the USA with these type of spades
>> installed
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Jacques Bodart(Yak flying group in Belgium)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
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>> Time: 05:27:12 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Interesting for spam can owners.
>>
>> Yes, saw it on AV web yesterday. Interesting, doubt insurance has
>> anything to do
>> with it. More like they missed something and got bitten by a lawyer
>> for it.
>> Just a guess though. Liability is more likely the cause of this
>> company chosing
>> not to take care of GA A/C older than 15 years.
>> If this takes off, FAA will have to declare all spam cans
>> experimental! That would
>> be good and bad. Bad for those that have not got clue what the
>> difference
>> between a box end and open end wrench is! Nor how to read a tech
>> manual.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Sent: 1/1/2007 9:32:58 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Interesting for spam can owners.
>>
>>
>> Thought this would be interesting to us in general.
>>
>> Subject: Is Marv Nuss at work again
>>
>>
>> Facilities Wont Work On Airplanes 18 Years Or Older?
>> Aircraft owners in Kansas and parts of the Southwest are worried about
>> a policy
>> adopted by one and possibly two aircraft maintenance providers to
>> refuse to work
>> on aircraft that are 18 years or older. A customer of Kansas City
>> Aviation
>> Center in Olathe, Kan., who asked not to be identified, told AVweb
>> that officials
>> of KCAC, a Piper dealer, told him they would no longer lift a wrench
>> on anything
>> beyond that age, including Piper products. He said he was told by
>> company
>> officials that its an insurance issue. A phone message and an e-mail
>> request
>> for an interview left Friday with KCACs maintenance supervisor were
>> not returned
>> by our deadline, nor was an e-mail request for comment from Piper
>> Aircraft.
>> The time span coincides with the liability limit that forms the crux
>> of the
>> General Aviation Revitalization Act of 1994, the legislation credited
>> with revitalizing
>> GA manufacturing. In a nutshell, the law immunizes aircraft
>> manufacturers
>> and the makers of parts and subcomponen
>> ts from product liability lawsuits after the aircraft reaches the age
>> of 18, or
>> 18 years after the installation of the part. In an analysis of the law
>> that
>> appeared in AVweb in 2001, lawyer Phillip J. Kolczynski wrote that
>> limiting the
>> liability on one party (the manufacturer) necessarily shifts it to
>> others, and
>> among those are mechanics and the shops where they work.
>> A Trend In The Works?
>> After word spread on Web forums about the Kansas situation, at least
>> one other
>> instance of a similar policy was reported in a chain of FBOs that
>> operates in
>> the Southwest. The firm, said to be Cutter Aviation on the Malibu
>> Mirage Owners
>> and Pilots Association online message board, hasnt returned telephone
>> or e-mail
>> message requests for an interview. The Kansas pilot we did speak with
>> told
>> us his main fear is that the policy will spread and could result in
>> owners of
>> older aircraft being unable to obtain service or repairs while
>> traveling. Meanwhile,
>> Kevin Mead, the owner of a shop in Hutchinson, Kan., says he doubts
>> the
>> insurance industry is driving the issue. Meads shop specializes in
>> Piper Malibus,
>> including extensive modifications, and hes heard nothing from his
>> insurance
>> company about an 18-year limit. Theres been no restriction on our
>> insurance,
>> he said. Mead said there are only a few insurance companies that cover
>> aircraft
>> maintenance facilities, so he
>> said its likely that if one had instituted an 18-year limit that
>> others would
>> at least be talking about it. He also noted that liability still
>> remains a major
>> concern in the industry.
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>> Time: 12:02:22 PM PST US
>> From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>>
>>
>> I have also looked at the options everyone has mentioned. I like the
>> winch idea as I have had it in a previous hanger - but I cannot put
>> one in my existing hanger due to airport nazi reg's.
>>
>> I did not want to spend the 600-800+ $ on a manufactured tug.
>>
>> I bought a used lawn tractor out of the paper with no mower deck on
>> it then welded up a tailwheel tow bar for the Yak and the Wilga. 200
>> $ for the tractor and 2 hours to weld up - I assume other tailwheel
>> tow bars are out there (or options for the CJ that could tow from the
>> rear - even options that could unload the nose wheel to help steer.
>>
>> I really like my set up as I am also uphill into the hanger, often
>> ice covered and fly alone half the time.
>>
>> Cheap - works well - I even tow out to the community fuel location
>> then leave the tractor - fly - taxi in to the fuel - tow back into
>> the hanger. My tractor is STC'd for 100LL and I use about 2-3
>> gallons a year is all (with MMO of course)
>>
>> Herb
>>
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Roger Kemp wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Val,
>>> Exactly the one we use at Wetumpka for the 52's and have used it
>>> without
>>> any difficulty with the occassional transient (interloper) CJ! It
>>> fits the
>>> nose wheel on the CJ just fine without any adjustments. Wish it
>>> would work
>>> with the 50's tailwheel! Contacted the company directly and sent
>>> all the
>>> measurements/pictures they requested but they could not make one.
>>> The tow
>>> bar could not lift the tail wheel and safely clear the rudder (for a
>>> reasonable price). Since the 50 is a 1000 lbs lighter than the 52,
>>> it is
>>> easier to move around. Besides, I need the exercise anyway.
>>> Does anyone know if the Russians used a tow bar on the tail wheel
>>> of the
>>> 50? Did they do what the rest of us do, simply push it out of the
>>> hanger by
>>> the wing and canopy bow. Then with aviable manpower, shove her back
>>> in
>>> again?
>>> I pull her back in with a dragger tow bar that fits around the
>>> tail wheel.
>>> Pushing on the tail wheel with the dragger to shove her out can
>>> cause the
>>> tail wheel to overcenter damaging the aft bulkhead. At least that
>>> has been
>>> my experience.
>>> Doc
>>>
>>>
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: Mike Bell <yakflyr@comcast.net>
>>>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Date: 12/31/2006 10:15:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Towbars vs Winches
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Val,
>>>>
>>>> Treat yourself and your back to a Powertow. I have used mine on
>>>> three
>>> different Yaks over the last 15 years. Tell them you have a CJ and
>>> they
>>> will sell you the correct fittings. www.powertow.com (800 635-5565.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Bell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84666#84666
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:02:36 PM PST US
>> From: ADE <coolade@cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK52 aileron spades
>>
>>
>> Our Yak 52 has spades which wre installed by Les crowder, if you like
>> I
>> can take a couple of pics and send to you---Ade Hale--Tulsa
>> On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:16 AM, Jacques Bodart wrote:
>>
>>> <jacques.bodart@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anybody know about aileron spades on a YAK52?
>>>
>>> I am not speaking off servo tabs like the one fixed on the tips of
>>> the
>>> aileron but of spades similar to the one we find on Pitts or Bellanca
>>> Decatlon.
>>> I have seen a YAK52 for sale in the USA with these type of spades
>>> installed
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques Bodart(Yak flying group in Belgium)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:31:34 PM PST US
>> From: ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al
>>
>> Working on my 2007 Program Letter to the FAA. Have dates been set for
>> Desert
>> Thunder IV and All Red Star for 2007? Thanks, Blitz
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:41:52 PM PST US
>> From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al
>>
>> While we're on the subject of a Program letter, are there any other
>> Yak
>> clinic or fly-in dates that haven't been posted on the website
>> schedule yet?
>>
>> Ashley Battles
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:25 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al
>>
>>
>> Working on my 2007 Program Letter to the FAA. Have dates been set
>> for
>> Desert Thunder IV and All Red Star for 2007? Thanks, Blitz
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:59:42 PM PST US
>> From: ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Happy new year
>>
>> Happy New Year to you as well, Lionel. Please stay in touch. ...Blitz
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:15:54 PM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al
>>
>> Yes. Red Air III.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ashley Battles
>> Sent: 1/2/2007 4:46:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al
>>
>>
>> While we're on the subject of a Program letter, are there any other
>> Yak clinic
>> or fly-in dates that haven't been posted on the website schedule yet?
>>
>> Ashley Battles
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:25 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: Barry Hancock et al
>>
>>
>> Working on my 2007 Program Letter to the FAA. Have dates been set for
>> Desert Thunder
>> IV and All Red Star for 2007? Thanks, Blitz
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:13:18 PM PST US
>> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: A little Airline Pilot Humor
>>
>> Old school, and damn funny
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KniSmlDr8H8
>>
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:43:39 PM PST US
>> From: "Don Milbourn" <valleyauto@clearwire.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>> Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying and
>> maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months
>> I
>> have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I
>> thought it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it
>> could
>> be the spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question...
>> nope.
>> I still had a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the
>> problem in colder air temperatures (40F). It would happen
>> intermittently, occasionally it has happened on climb out, but it
>> would
>> also happened at cruise and even on the ground, at all throttle
>> settings. Generally when it happened at cruise speed, you could feel
>> it
>> start to come on, it would start with a slight vibration and then a
>> violent vibration that would shake the instrument panel, sometimes
>> with
>> a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until next time. The
>> duration
>> of the rough running was usually less than 5 seconds, not really long
>> enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day it did it
>> four
>> times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no change.
>> When
>> the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you keep it
>> at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the
>> CHT
>> cool down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your
>> shorts if you weren't ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake
>> gland
>> seals... and no more misfire!!! I have been out several times since
>> replacing the Gland Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the
>> CHT
>> down to 160) and it seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland
>> nuts
>> were tight but they would not seal, when they got warm they would
>> seal.
>> It runs smoother has better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest
>> thing with the best improvement I have done to my yak
>>
>> Don Milbourn
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 11
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:58:32 PM PST US
>> From: "L Starace" <fstarace@sc.rr.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>> Contact Michael Carr! mikeacarr at yahoo.com...he has perfected his
>> engine/motor and you'd be impressed! Happy flying to y'all! He's a
>> smart man
>> with alot of experience due to his investigativeness!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Milbourn
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:47 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying and
>> maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months
>> I
>> have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I
>> thought
>> it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it could be
>> the
>> spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question... nope. I
>> still had
>> a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the problem in
>> colder
>> air temperatures (40F). It would happen intermittently, occasionally
>> it has
>> happened on climb out, but it would also happened at cruise and even
>> on the
>> ground, at all throttle settings. Generally when it happened at cruise
>> speed, you could feel it start to come on, it would start with a
>> slight
>> vibration and then a violent vibration that would shake the instrument
>> panel, sometimes with a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until
>> next
>> time. The duration of the rough running was usually less than 5
>> seconds, not
>> really long enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day
>> it did
>> it four times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no
>> change.
>> When the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you
>> keep it
>> at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the
>> CHT cool
>> down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your shorts
>> if you
>> werent ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake gland seals... and
>> no
>> more misfire!!! I have been out several times since replacing the
>> Gland
>> Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the CHT down to 160) and
>> it
>> seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland nuts were tight but
>> they
>> would not seal, when they got warm they would seal. It runs smoother
>> has
>> better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest thing with the best
>> improvement I have done to my yak
>>
>> Don Milbourn
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 12
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:49:31 PM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star VI
>> From: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
>>
>> Dear Fellow Red Star Comrades...and Blitz... ;)-
>>
>> I hope that 2007 is off to a fine start for you. Here in SoCal it's
>> been in the 70's and CAVU for the last week....heck, I've even been
>> able to fly a time or two! ;)
>>
>> As we begin to plan our year and submit those pesky program letters,
>> I'm pleased to tell you that we have set the dates for ARS VI as May
>> 2-6, 2007.
>>
>> More details to follow, but this year is already shaping up nicely
>> with an F-22 test pilot as our guest speaker, and greater involvement
>> from the city of Porterville.
>>
>> If anyone has any interest in being a part of the volunteer team to
>> help ARS continue to be the best darned warbird fly-in in the
>> country, please contact me directly. We currently have needs in the
>> following areas:
>>
>> -Aircraft judging
>> -Auction donations
>> -Accounting
>> -Ground/Ramp Boss
>> -Flight Scheduling
>> -Evening events
>> -Sponsorship
>>
>> We've really enjoyed the first 5 years of ARS, and look forward to
>> another five! Fly safely, and we'll see you in May!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>> Barry Hancock
>> Event Director
>> All Red Star
>> (949) 300-5510
>> www.allredstar.com
>> "A Unique Aviation Experience"
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
> ____________________________________
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> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 01/03/07
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>> 1. 04:58 AM - Re: rough running engine (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> 2. 05:51 AM - Military gear for sale (Cj6sly@cs.com)
>> 3. 06:02 AM - Re: Military gear for sale (cjpilot710@aol.com)
>> 4. 06:30 AM - Jeep M38A1 (Kelley Monroe)
>> 5. 06:54 AM - RedStar events (Drew Blahnick)
>> 6. 07:35 AM - Re: RedStar events (Roger Kemp)
>> 7. 07:54 AM - Re: rough running engine (Don Milbourn)
>> 8. 08:05 AM - Re: rough running engine (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> 9. 12:25 PM - Re: name tags (Phil Goswick)
>> 10. 12:28 PM - name tags (Phil Goswick)
>> 11. 12:33 PM - Re: name tags (Ashley Battles)
>> 12. 12:36 PM - Re: name tags (Ashley Battles)
>> 13. 12:43 PM - Re: name tags (David McGirt)
>> 14. 12:46 PM - Re: name tags (ByronMFox@aol.com)
>> 15. 12:55 PM - Re: name tags (Ashley Battles)
>> 16. 12:56 PM - Emailing: Mail0012 (Phil Goswick)
>> 17. 12:56 PM - Emailing: Mail0012 (Phil Goswick)
>> 18. 01:02 PM - Re: Emailing: Mail0012 (Ashley Battles)
>> 19. 02:52 PM - Re: Emailing: Mail0012 (ByronMFox@aol.com)
>> 20. 03:30 PM - yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits (David McGirt)
>> 21. 06:48 PM - Re: name tags (Sarah Tobin)
>> 22. 08:02 PM - Re: name tags (john Fischer)
>> 23. 08:18 PM - Re: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits (Roger
>> Kemp)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:58:34 AM PST US
>> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>> Good post Don. What condition did you find the intake gland nut
>> rubber
>> seals?
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Don Milbourn
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:46 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying and
>> maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months
>> I
>> have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I
>> thought it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it
>> could
>> be the spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question...
>> nope.
>> I still had a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the
>> problem in colder air temperatures (40F). It would happen
>> intermittently, occasionally it has happened on climb out, but it
>> would
>> also happened at cruise and even on the ground, at all throttle
>> settings. Generally when it happened at cruise speed, you could feel
>> it
>> start to come on, it would start with a slight vibration and then a
>> violent vibration that would shake the instrument panel, sometimes
>> with
>> a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until next time. The
>> duration
>> of the rough running was usually less than 5 seconds, not really long
>> enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day it did it
>> four
>> times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no change.
>> When
>> the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you keep it
>> at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the
>> CHT
>> cool down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your
>> shorts if you weren't ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake
>> gland
>> seals... and no more misfire!!! I have been out several times since
>> replacing the Gland Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the
>> CHT
>> down to 160) and it seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland
>> nuts
>> were tight but they would not seal, when they got warm they would
>> seal.
>> It runs smoother has better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest
>> thing with the best improvement I have done to my yak
>>
>> Don Milbourn
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:51:10 AM PST US
>> From: Cj6sly@cs.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Military gear for sale
>>
>> Yakistas,
>>
>> I've got some stuff for sale if anyone is interested:
>>
>> 1 ea.,Green Nomex Flight Suit 42R, worn but in new condition. Still
>> has that
>> Nomex smell! =$45.00 +Shipping
>>
>> 2 ea New Air Force Black Flight Boots (never worn, still in boxes),
>> size 11
>> $30.00 Each + Shipping
>>
>> 2 ea. New Jungle Boots size 11 (never worn) $25.00 =+ shipping
>>
>> Contact me off list at cj6sly@cs.com
>>
>> Skp Slyfield
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:02:38 AM PST US
>> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Military gear for sale
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/3/2007 8:53:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> Cj6sly@cs.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Gee Sly I've been looking for a left size 11 jungle boot for months.
>> I'll
>> send you $12.500 for it!
>>
>>
>> Yakistas,
>>
>> I've got some stuff for sale if anyone is interested:
>>
>> 1 ea.,Green Nomex Flight Suit 42R, worn but in new condition. Still
>> has that
>> Nomex smell! =$45.00 +Shipping
>>
>> 2 ea New Air Force Black Flight Boots (never worn, still in boxes),
>> size 11
>> $30.00 Each + Shipping
>>
>> 2 ea. New Jungle Boots size 11 (never worn) $25.00 =+ shipping
>>
>> Contact me off list at cj6sly@cs.com
>>
>> Skp Slyfield
>>
>>
>> (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:30:02 AM PST US
>> From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Jeep M38A1
>>
>> I have a M38A1 Jeep for sale. This Jeep has had a complete frame
>> off
>> restoration and used to transport warbird pilots at Oshkosh. The last
>> to years has been in the American Wings Museum at ANE. If interested
>> contact me off list. Thanks Kelley 612-508-3740
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:54:43 AM PST US
>> From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: RedStar events
>>
>> Pilotos'-
>>
>> Definately put your fly-ins on the fly-in module of
>> www.flyredstar.org if you can, I get all email from
>> admin@flyredstar.org and get a lot of "whens that california event",
>> "any events in alabama in 2007", "is there anything up in my area...I
>> looked online but..."
>>
>> So it means the system is useful and new members are looking,
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> Drew A. Blahnick
>> RedStar Pilots Association
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:35:56 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: RedStar events
>>
>> Garbled in transmission. Please retransmit.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Drew Blahnick
>> Sent: 1/3/2007 9:02:23 AM
>> Subject: Yak-List: RedStar events
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:54:24 AM PST US
>> From: "Don Milbourn" <valleyauto@clearwire.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>> Dennis, they looked old and dry. ----- Original Message -----
>> From: A. Dennis Savarese
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>>
>> Good post Don. What condition did you find the intake gland nut
>> rubber seals?
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Don Milbourn
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:46 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying and
>> maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months
>> I
>> have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I
>> thought it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it
>> could
>> be the spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question...
>> nope.
>> I still had a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the
>> problem in colder air temperatures (40F). It would happen
>> intermittently, occasionally it has happened on climb out, but it
>> would
>> also happened at cruise and even on the ground, at all throttle
>> settings. Generally when it happened at cruise speed, you could feel
>> it
>> start to come on, it would start with a slight vibration and then a
>> violent vibration that would shake the instrument panel, sometimes
>> with
>> a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until next time. The
>> duration
>> of the rough running was usually less than 5 seconds, not really long
>> enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day it did it
>> four
>> times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no change.
>> When
>> the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you keep it
>> at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the
>> CHT
>> cool down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your
>> shorts if you weren't ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake
>> gland
>> seals... and no more misfire!!! I have been out several times since
>> replacing the Gland Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the
>> CHT
>> down to 160) and it seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland
>> nuts
>> were tight but they would not seal, when they got warm they would
>> seal.
>> It runs smoother has better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest
>> thing with the best improvement I have done to my yak
>>
>> Don Milbourn
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>> www.matronics
>> .com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:05:23 AM PST US
>> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>> I know this question is after the fact, but when you felt the
>> vibration
>> did you happen to see any change in the manifold pressure?
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Don Milbourn
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: rough running engine
>>
>>
>> Dennis, they looked old and dry. ----- Original Message -----
>> From: A. Dennis Savarese
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: rough =ashBack] running engine
>>
>>
>> Good post Don. What condition did you find the intake gland nut
>> rubber seals?
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Don Milbourn
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:46 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: rough =ashBack] running engine
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone, I am new to this yak list, but I have been flying
>> and
>> maintaining my Yak for the past two years. For the past several months
>> I
>> have experienced an intermittent "rough running" engine. At first I
>> thought it could be carb-ice, but nope... Then, I thought maybe it
>> could
>> be the spark plug wires, new plug wires answered that question...
>> nope.
>> I still had a rough running engine. It seemed it was more prone to the
>> problem in colder air temperatures (40F). It would happen
>> intermittently, occasionally it has happened on climb out, but it
>> would
>> also happened at cruise and even on the ground, at all throttle
>> settings. Generally when it happened at cruise speed, you could feel
>> it
>> start to come on, it would start with a slight vibration and then a
>> violent vibration that would shake the instrument panel, sometimes
>> with
>> a backfire, and then smooth out and run ok until next time. The
>> duration
>> of the rough running was usually less than 5 seconds, not really long
>> enough time to trouble shoot it.... Finely, the other day it did it
>> four
>> times. I was able to do a mag check this time and it had no change.
>> When
>> the cyl temp would cool to 160 or so it would mis-fire. If you keep it
>> at 190 it was better, but it would still happen. So, if you let the
>> CHT
>> cool down to 160, you could count on the chance of "chili" in your
>> shorts if you weren't ready for it... Then, I replaced the intake
>> gland
>> seals... and no more misfire!!! I have been out several times since
>> replacing the Gland Seals, trying to make it mis-fire (allowing the
>> CHT
>> down to 160) and it seems the problem has been fixed!! . The gland
>> nuts
>> were tight but they would not seal, when they got warm they would
>> seal.
>> It runs smoother has better idle . Turns out to be the single cheapest
>> thing with the best improvement I have done to my yak
>>
>> Don Milbourn
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>> www.matronhre
>> f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>> www.matronics
>> .com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:25:35 PM PST US
>> From: "Phil Goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> recently there was a post showing a name tag with the red star and the
>> Yak wings. Does any one know where these came from so I may order
>> some
>> Phil
>> Yak 52
>> Tulsa, Ok
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:28:50 PM PST US
>> From: "Phil Goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> does any one know where the name tags with the red star and yak wings
>> came from. I would like to order some.
>> Phil
>> Yak 52
>> Tulsa, Ok
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 11
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:33:27 PM PST US
>> From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> Phil,
>> Try these links. If they don't work, go to www.nametags4u.com. The
>> actual
>> Russian wings are under the International link. The RPA wings are
>> under the
>> Misc. link.
>>
>> Yak wings
>> http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTCAT&cat=nations
>>
>> RedStar wings
>> http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTCAT&cat=misc
>>
>> Miss flying with you guys!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Phil Goswick
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:28 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> does any one know where the name tags with the red star and yak
>> wings came
>> from. I would like to order some.
>> Phil
>> Yak 52
>> Tulsa, Ok
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 12
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:36:24 PM PST US
>> From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> And don't be fooled by the first set of wings you come to that say
>> "Navy
>> wings with Red Star". Keep scrolling down and there is a set of
>> silver
>> wings that says "RedStar Pilots Association wings"
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Phil Goswick
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:28 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> does any one know where the name tags with the red star and yak
>> wings came
>> from. I would like to order some.
>> Phil
>> Yak 52
>> Tulsa, Ok
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 13
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:43:44 PM PST US
>> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> In case you are the naval type..
>>
>>
>> http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/lwwlist.cgi?pm=VB
>> <http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/lwwlist.cgi?pm=VB&img=misc_soviet>
>> &img=misc_soviet
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley
>> Battles
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:36 PM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> Try these links. If they don't work, go to www.nametags4u.com. The
>> actual
>> Russian wings are under the International link. The RPA wings are
>> under the
>> Misc. link.
>>
>>
>> Yak wings
>>
>> <http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTCAT&cat=nations>
>> http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTCAT&cat=nations
>>
>>
>> RedStar wings
>>
>> http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTCAT
>> <http://www.nametags4u.com/cgi-bin/wwlist.cgi?pm=LISTCAT&cat=misc>
>> &cat=misc
>>
>>
>> Miss flying with you guys!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Phil Goswick
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:28 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> does any one know where the name tags with the red star and yak wings
>> came
>> from. I would like to order some.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Yak 52
>>
>> Tulsa, Ok
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>> www.matronics.com/
>> Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 14
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:46:10 PM PST US
>> From: ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/3/07 12:27:10 PM, p.goswick@cox.net writes:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> recently there was a post showing a name tag with the red star and
>>> the Yak
>>
>>> wings.- Does any one know where these came from so I may order some
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>
>> While Ashley has correctly directed you to RPA specific wings at
>> Williams &
>> Williams, Phil, I do recall someone weeks ago asking about Yak 52
>> specific
>> wings. If we can locate the art work, Williams & Williams will
>> duplicate it,
>> and
>> put the wings on their web site just as they did with our RPA wings.
>> Please
>> let
>> me know if you succeed in locating the art.
>>
>> Blitz
>>
>> Byron M Fox
>> The RPA Store
>> 80 Milland Drive
>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>> 415-307-2405 Cell Days
>> 415-380-0907 Home Eves
>> http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 15
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:55:28 PM PST US
>> From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> http://www.yakclub.com/images/shop/namebadge.gif
>>
>> Is this the artwork for the Yak specific wings you are talking about
>> Blitz?
>> Can you tell I already had all this stuff bookmarked! This would be
>> cool to
>> have Williams & Williams duplicate. Do you have contact info for them
>> to
>> send it to them?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:46 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/3/07 12:27:10 PM, p.goswick@cox.net writes:
>>
>>
>> recently there was a post showing a name tag with the red star and
>> the
>> Yak wings. Does any one know where these came from so I may order
>> some
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> While Ashley has correctly directed you to RPA specific wings at
>> Williams
>> & Williams, Phil, I do recall someone weeks ago asking about Yak 52
>> specific
>> wings. If we can locate the art work, Williams & Williams will
>> duplicate it,
>> and put the wings on their web site just as they did with our RPA
>> wings.
>> Please let me know if you succeed in locating the art.
>>
>> Blitz
>>
>> Byron M Fox
>> The RPA Store
>> 80 Milland Drive
>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>> 415-307-2405 Cell Days
>> 415-380-0907 Home Eves
>> http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 16
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:56:16 PM PST US
>> From: "Phil Goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Mail0012
>>
>> this is the name tag that I saw and would like to purchase
>> Phil
>> Tulsa
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 17
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:56:50 PM PST US
>> From: "Phil Goswick" <p.goswick@cox.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Mail0012
>>
>> this is the name tag that I saw and would like to purchase
>> Phil
>> Tulsa
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 18
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:02:27 PM PST US
>> From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emailing: Mail0012
>>
>> http://www.yakclub.com/images/shop/namebadge.gif
>>
>> I don't think there is anyplace to purchase this one yet...but if
>> Blitz
>> knows how to get some artwork to Williams & Williams, they could make
>> it for
>> us...no telling what the time frame would be though
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Phil Goswick
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:56 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Emailing: Mail0012
>>
>>
>> this is the name tag that I saw and would like to purchase
>> Phil
>> Tulsa
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 19
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:52:44 PM PST US
>> From: ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: Mail0012
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/3/07 1:05:09 PM, ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com
>> writes:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.yakclub.com/images/shop/namebadge.gif
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> I don't think there is anyplace to purchase this one yet...but if
>>> Blitz
>>> knows how to get some artwork to Williams & Williams, they could make
>>> it f
>> or
>>> us...no telling what the time frame would be though
>>>
>>>
>> There's an 800 number at the bottom of Williams & Williams home page.
>> I
>> called that number when arranging for the RPA wings to be put on their
>> site.
>>
>> The fellow, who's name I can't recall, was very helpful. ...Blitz
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 20
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:30:26 PM PST US
>> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits
>>
>> Anyone happen to have some rebuild/seal kits on the shelf? Jill is
>> out
>> playing like they have a life on vacation, and I need to get these
>> sooner
>> than later. Email me off list if you like - thanks all
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 21
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 06:48:19 PM PST US
>> From: Sarah Tobin <aerobaticgirl@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>> I wrote to several name tag companies and they said they could do it
>> for me for
>> 12 bucks for 1 or 2, can't remember, but if I order more that ten
>> orders, it's
>> only 10 bucks, but not sure about the shipping aspect of that, but
>> maybe you
>> could send it to one of your Red Star gatherings.
>>
>> Smash
>>
>> Ashley Battles <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> wrote:
>> http://www.yakclub.com/images/shop/namebadge.gif
>>
>> Is this the artwork for the Yak specific wings you are talking about
>> Blitz?
>> Can you tell I already had all this stuff bookmarked! This would be
>> cool to have
>> Williams & Williams duplicate. Do you have contact info for them to
>> send
>> it to them?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> ByronMFox@aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/3/07 12:27:10 PM, p.goswick@cox.net writes:
>>
>>
>> recently there was a post showing a name tag with the red star and the
>> Yak wings.
>> Does any one know where these came from so I may order some
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> While Ashley has correctly directed you to RPA specific wings at
>> Williams & Williams,
>> Phil, I do recall someone weeks ago asking about Yak 52 specific
>> wings.
>> If we can locate the art work, Williams & Williams will duplicate it,
>> and put
>> the wings on their web site just as they did with our RPA wings.
>> Please let me
>> know if you succeed in locating the art.
>>
>> Blitz
>>
>> Byron M Fox
>> The RPA Store
>> 80 Milland Drive
>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>> 415-307-2405 Cell Days
>> 415-380-0907 Home Eves
>> http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 22
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:02:23 PM PST US
>> From: "john Fischer" <fish@aviation-tech.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: name tags
>>
>>
>> Group,
>>
>> After Sara asked the last time, I went to my local embroidery shop and
>> had the
>> design work done to make the name tags. I have not had a chance to get
>> back
>> and pick up the sample I had made.
>>
>> I will pick it up tomorrow and post digital photos for the group. I
>> can sell
>> them for $10.00 ea, with no min purchase.
>>
>> Thats about $1.50 for my time to drop off the order and ship for each
>> purchase.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> John fischer
>> California City, CA
>> Cell (818) 257-0911
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I wrote to several name tag companies and they said they could do it
>>> for me
>> for 12 bucks for 1 or 2, can't remember, but if I order more that ten
>> orders,
>> it's only 10 bucks, but not sure about the shipping aspect of that,
>> but maybe
>> you could send it to one of your Red Star gatherings.
>>>
>>> Smash
>>>
>>> Ashley Battles <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.yakclub.com/images/shop/namebadge.gif
>>>
>>> Is this the artwork for the Yak specific wings you are talking about
>>> Blitz?
>> Can you tell I already had all this stuff bookmarked! This would be
>> cool to
>> have Williams & Williams duplicate. Do you have contact info for them
>> to send
>> it to them?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On
>> Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:46 PM
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: name tags
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/3/07 12:27:10 PM, p.goswick@cox.net writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> recently there was a post showing a name tag with the red star and
>>> the Yak
>> wings. Does any one know where these came from so I may order some
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> While Ashley has correctly directed you to RPA specific wings at
>>> Williams &
>> Williams, Phil, I do recall someone weeks ago asking about Yak 52
>> specific wings.
>> If we can locate the art work, Williams & Williams will duplicate it,
>> and put
>> the wings on their web site just as they did with our RPA wings.
>> Please let
>> me know if you succeed in locating the art.
>>>
>>> Blitz
>>>
>>> Byron M Fox
>>> The RPA Store
>>> 80 Milland Drive
>>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>>> 415-307-2405 Cell Days
>>> 415-380-0907 Home Eves
>>> http://www.flyredstar.org/StoreCSVS/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
>>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 23
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:18:09 PM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits
>>
>> Talon,
>> Have you talked to Dennis? He usually keeps a few spares around. I
>> have a strut
>> seal kits for the 50. But you need the actuator seal kits correct?
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David McGirt
>> Sent: 1/3/2007 5:35:58 PM
>> Subject: Yak-List: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits
>>
>>
>> Anyone happen to have some rebuild/seal kits on the shelf? Jill is
>> out playing
>> like they have a life on vacation, and I need to get these sooner than
>> later.
>> Email me off list if you like thanks all
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:03:00 PM PST US
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> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/05/07
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>> 1. 03:54 AM - Re: Yak Nametags (dochoc)
>>
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>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:54:37 AM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak Nametags
>> From: "dochoc" <nicholas.hockley@btinternet.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi John
>>
>> Look good.Can you send out to the UK?
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85589#85589
>>
>>
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> ____________________________________
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>
> Time: 08:03:16 PM PST US
> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/06/07
>
>
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>> 1. 01:27 PM - Taxes and owning an airplane... (Tim Gagnon)
>> 2. 05:57 PM - form (ronald wasson)
>>
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>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:27:49 PM PST US
>> Subject: Yak-List: Taxes and owning an airplane...
>> From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
>>
>>
>> Ok, I am not seeking specific tax advice but I figure more than one or
>> two of you
>> have written off some cost related to your airplane. I was asked and
>> attended
>> a few airshows in 2006. I am not looking for the IRA to give me rectal
>> probe
>> looking for leaks, but I am interested in writing off some airplane
>> cost. I
>> plan on attending more shows this year and doing some flying in them.
>> I know someone
>> who does shows in his airplane and enjoys some tax relief by doing so.
>>
>>
>> So, based on those who do write some cost off, can you pass along some
>> info? How,
>> record keeping and so on. Pitfalls, flags..that would help too!
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Happy New Year! Good and safe flying to you all!
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85898#85898
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:57:08 PM PST US
>> From: ronald wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: form
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:20:45 PM PST US
> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Air tanks
>
>
> Doug, ( or anyone else.. )
>
> Did you find out if these guys could overhaul a tank? Mine has some
> rust
> on the inside, and I am looking for someone to clean, and hydro it for
> me..
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of LawnDart
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:00 PM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air tanks
>
>
> This place will inspect and pressure test. Not sure about overhaul.
>
> TYM's INC.
> 414 West Arbor Vitae St.
> Inglewood, CA 90301
> Phone 213-678-3330 or 310-673-3330
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74837#74837
>
>
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> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:37:20 PM PST US
> From: "peter waddington" <waddingtonpeter@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Doug
>
>
> Doug Sapp, please contact me offline, looking two aquire a CJ-6
> towbar. I
> have had no luck with contact on your e-mail.
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
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> Time: 08:56:46 PM PST US
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> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 01/04/07
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>> Total Messages Posted Thu 01/04/07: 9
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>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 01:21 AM - Re: Nametags (Buzzard Aviation)
>> 2. 03:09 AM - Re: That badge/nametag (Buzzard Aviation)
>> 3. 09:18 AM - Re: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits (David
>> McGirt)
>> 4. 09:42 AM - Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story (N13472@aol.com)
>> 5. 09:42 AM - Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story (N13472@aol.com)
>> 6. 09:52 AM - Stuff FS:Clearing out hangar clutter (Patrick
>> Scofield)
>> 7. 10:51 AM - Re: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story (Roger Kemp)
>> 8. 12:15 PM - Dennis Savarese (Jim Selby)
>> 9. 02:48 PM - Re: Yak Nametags (john Fischer)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:21:53 AM PST US
>> From: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>>
>>
>> At 20:55 03/01/2007, Phil Goswick wrote:
>>
>>> this is the name tag that I saw and would like to purchase
>>> Phil
>>> Tulsa
>>
>> If you guys hang in there with me I'll phone Jez this morning and
>> find out where he got them done.
>>
>>
>> Happy Landings
>> ____|____
>> \O/
>> o'o Martin Robinson
>>
>> Yak 18T HA-YAV
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:09:17 AM PST US
>> From: Buzzard Aviation <martin@buzzardaviation.flyer.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: That badge/nametag
>>
>>
>> beAt 20:55 03/01/2007, Phil Goswick wrote:
>>
>>> this is the name tag that I saw and would like to purchase
>>> Phil
>>> Tulsa
>>
>> I have now spoken to Jez. It is their own design done for Yakovlevs
>> display team but the badges are available at
>> http://www.yakovlevs.com/shop.asp?p=shop
>>
>> Scroll down to Yak Name Badge. Jez said to sure to say if you need
>> velcro which is 1 UKP extra. Postage is relatively high so it may be
>> worth all you US guys doing one order for the lot and then
>> redistributing from one location there? Sorry the dollar/pound rate
>> isn't so hot at the moment. For you anyway:-)
>>
>> Good Luck
>>
>> Happy Landings
>> ____|____
>> \O/
>> o'o Martin Robinson
>>
>> Yak 18T HA-YAV
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:18:24 AM PST US
>> From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits
>>
>> That's correct, talking to him today
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:26 PM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits
>>
>>
>> Talon,
>>
>> Have you talked to Dennis? He usually keeps a few spares around. I
>> have a
>> strut seal kits for the 50. But you need the actuator seal kits
>> correct?
>>
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: David McGirt <mailto:david@mcgirt.net>
>>
>>
>> Sent: 1/3/2007 5:35:58 PM
>>
>> Subject: Yak-List: yak52 gear & flap rebuild/seal kits
>>
>>
>> Anyone happen to have some rebuild/seal kits on the shelf? Jill is
>> out
>> playing like they have a life on vacation, and I need to get these
>> sooner
>> than later. Email me off list if you like thanks all
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:42:12 AM PST US
>> From: N13472@aol.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story
>>
>> To all what is the general feeling about these changes at Sun n Fun.
>>
>>
>> Published Thursday, December 28, 2006
>>
>> Sun 'n Fun Crowd to Get an Up-Close Look
>>
>> By _Rick Rousos_
>> (javascript:NewWindow(376,130,'/apps/pbcs.dll/personalia?
>> ID=ricrou&category=STAFF');)
>>
>>
>> The Ledger
>>
>> LAKELAND - The Sun 'n Fun Fly-In experience will improve immeasurably
>> when
>> the Fly-In opens its flight line in April, at no extra charge, to all
>> of its
>> customers. The flight line features the most enticing attractions.
>>
>> The majestic warbirds, mostly fighter planes that date back as far as
>> World
>> War I, have always been one of Sun 'n Fun's most popular exhibits.
>>
>> The warbird area will be open to the general public, along with
>> "Choppertown," the vintage aircraft area and the experimental, or
>> homebuilt, area.
>> The
>> change will allow people to get closer to planes on the runway. And
>> because
>> pilots tend to hang out by their planes, there will be much more
>> interaction
>> between customers and pilots.
>>
>> Opening the flight line was obviously a business decision for Sun 'n
>> Fun.
>> But Sun 'n Fun President John Burton said it was also a common-sense
>> decision.
>>
>> "Our mission is to expose aviation to the general public,"
>> particularly
>> children, Burton said. "This was the way to do it."
>>
>> Wayne Boggs, Sun 'n Fun's director of operations, put it another way.
>> "If
>> doing this attracts just one child to a career in aviation, then it's
>> worth
>> it," he said.
>>
>> At past Fly-Ins, only visitors who were members of the extended
>> aviation
>> family or the Florida Air Museum on the Sun 'n Fun campus were given
>> special
>> armbands that served as admission through the gates at the flight
>> line, which
>>
>> were watched by security guards.
>>
>> Or, members of the general public could take a tractor-powered tram
>> tour of
>> the flight line for $3. But the tram doesn't get people as close to
>> the
>> powered-off airplanes.
>>
>> The areas always open to the general public included workshops,
>> ultralights,
>> aviation concessions, the food court and a good, if not great, view
>> of the
>> daily air show.
>>
>> One of the biggest gripes of people was that they couldn't get near
>> the
>> flight line, with the complaints going something like this: "I'm
>> paying all this
>>
>> money and don't get to see the whole place."
>>
>> A general admission ticket in recent years has gone for $30, $25 with
>> an
>> Experimental Aircraft Association or Air Museum membership. Burton
>> said ticket
>>
>> prices this year won't be raised. He said there will be another
>> incentive to
>> attract local residents to the 2007 Fly-In, but details haven't been
>> finalized.
>>
>> There are a number of reasons Sun 'n Fun had maintained a policy that
>> kept
>> the general public at a distance. The first is safety and the second
>> is "the
>> belt buckle factor."
>>
>> Burton said the safety concern of bigger crowds on the flight line
>> has been
>> about the well-being of the public, the pilots and the airplanes.
>>
>> "But we've got about 200 volunteers on the flight line," Burton said.
>> He
>> said those workers will be instructed to keep customers out of danger
>> and from
>>
>> getting too close to the airplanes.
>>
>> That's where the belt buckle factor, sometimes known as the suspender
>> factor, comes in. Cockpits in airplanes can be very cool, but quite
>> high off the
>>
>> ground, and people want to see them. So they climb up on the plane,
>> Burton
>> said, and scratch it with their belt buckle.
>>
>> The 2007 Fly-In is April 17-23.
>>
>> Rick Rousos can be reached at _rick.rousos@theledger.com_
>> (mailto:rick.rousos@theledger.com) or 863-802-7516.
>>
>> Please create an account or login to read this story
>> CREATE AN
>> ACCOUNT
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>>
>> Tom Elliott
>> CJ-6 NX63727
>> Sandy Valley NV
>> 3L2
>> 702-723-1223
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:42:12 AM PST US
>> From: N13472@aol.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story
>>
>> To all what is the general feeling about these changes at Sun n Fun.
>>
>>
>> Published Thursday, December 28, 2006
>>
>> Sun 'n Fun Crowd to Get an Up-Close Look
>>
>> By _Rick Rousos_
>> (javascript:NewWindow(376,130,'/apps/pbcs.dll/personalia?
>> ID=ricrou&category=STAFF');)
>>
>>
>> The Ledger
>>
>> LAKELAND - The Sun 'n Fun Fly-In experience will improve immeasurably
>> when
>> the Fly-In opens its flight line in April, at no extra charge, to all
>> of its
>> customers. The flight line features the most enticing attractions.
>>
>> The majestic warbirds, mostly fighter planes that date back as far as
>> World
>> War I, have always been one of Sun 'n Fun's most popular exhibits.
>>
>> The warbird area will be open to the general public, along with
>> "Choppertown," the vintage aircraft area and the experimental, or
>> homebuilt, area.
>> The
>> change will allow people to get closer to planes on the runway. And
>> because
>> pilots tend to hang out by their planes, there will be much more
>> interaction
>> between customers and pilots.
>>
>> Opening the flight line was obviously a business decision for Sun 'n
>> Fun.
>> But Sun 'n Fun President John Burton said it was also a common-sense
>> decision.
>>
>> "Our mission is to expose aviation to the general public,"
>> particularly
>> children, Burton said. "This was the way to do it."
>>
>> Wayne Boggs, Sun 'n Fun's director of operations, put it another way.
>> "If
>> doing this attracts just one child to a career in aviation, then it's
>> worth
>> it," he said.
>>
>> At past Fly-Ins, only visitors who were members of the extended
>> aviation
>> family or the Florida Air Museum on the Sun 'n Fun campus were given
>> special
>> armbands that served as admission through the gates at the flight
>> line, which
>>
>> were watched by security guards.
>>
>> Or, members of the general public could take a tractor-powered tram
>> tour of
>> the flight line for $3. But the tram doesn't get people as close to
>> the
>> powered-off airplanes.
>>
>> The areas always open to the general public included workshops,
>> ultralights,
>> aviation concessions, the food court and a good, if not great, view
>> of the
>> daily air show.
>>
>> One of the biggest gripes of people was that they couldn't get near
>> the
>> flight line, with the complaints going something like this: "I'm
>> paying all this
>>
>> money and don't get to see the whole place."
>>
>> A general admission ticket in recent years has gone for $30, $25 with
>> an
>> Experimental Aircraft Association or Air Museum membership. Burton
>> said ticket
>>
>> prices this year won't be raised. He said there will be another
>> incentive to
>> attract local residents to the 2007 Fly-In, but details haven't been
>> finalized.
>>
>> There are a number of reasons Sun 'n Fun had maintained a policy that
>> kept
>> the general public at a distance. The first is safety and the second
>> is "the
>> belt buckle factor."
>>
>> Burton said the safety concern of bigger crowds on the flight line
>> has been
>> about the well-being of the public, the pilots and the airplanes.
>>
>> "But we've got about 200 volunteers on the flight line," Burton said.
>> He
>> said those workers will be instructed to keep customers out of danger
>> and from
>>
>> getting too close to the airplanes.
>>
>> That's where the belt buckle factor, sometimes known as the suspender
>> factor, comes in. Cockpits in airplanes can be very cool, but quite
>> high off the
>>
>> ground, and people want to see them. So they climb up on the plane,
>> Burton
>> said, and scratch it with their belt buckle.
>>
>> The 2007 Fly-In is April 17-23.
>>
>> Rick Rousos can be reached at _rick.rousos@theledger.com_
>> (mailto:rick.rousos@theledger.com) or 863-802-7516.
>>
>> Please create an account or login to read this story
>> CREATE AN
>> ACCOUNT
>>
>> ALREADY A MEMBER? LOGIN NOW. If you have already created an account,
>> simply
>> login to your account using your email and password below. If you
>> need help,
>> check our _Member Center_ (http://www.theledger.com/membercenter) .
>> Email Password Remember my member ID and password on this
>> computer.
>>
>>
>> Tom Elliott
>> CJ-6 NX63727
>> Sandy Valley NV
>> 3L2
>> 702-723-1223
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:52:35 AM PST US
>> From: Patrick Scofield <PATRICK@DESIGNWORX.COM>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Stuff FS:Clearing out hangar clutter
>>
>> Gents,
>>
>> I am clearing out some clutter in my hangar (too much stuff) and I
>> have the following available for the CJ-6/Yak-52, I will send the
>> prop and the compressor to a Starman Auction if the don't sell here.
>>
>> These items were removed from my a/c when I did an M-14 mod a few
>> years ago:
>>
>> - One stock JS-9 propellor and crate with log (removed airworthy)
>> - Set of stock exhaust headers
>> - one set of gill shutters and axles
>> - one inner gill shutter ring
>> - M14P generator (formerly in Yak-52)
>> - 3000 PSI High Pressure air compressor - a pickled military unit
>> that comes as a tiny trailer.. pretty slick. I got it to pressurize
>> the air system but haven't yet un-pickled it. It will fill a large
>> air bottle as it uses a four cylinder gas engine to run it. If
>> interested I will send pics.
>>
>> Make a sensible offer for any or all.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Patrick Scofield
>> 480-227-4125
>>
>> CJ-6 N4184W
>> L-39ZA N399ZA
>>
>> patrick@designworx.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:51:45 AM PST US
>> From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story
>>
>> Well, that's special. Will they feel as open hearted after a
>> "customer" FOD's a
>> cockpit or the cute little 3 year "future in aviation" tears away from
>> Momma's
>> arms and races into a prop? Yes sir, one of those 200 volunteers will
>> be there
>> to catch them.
>> Set up a static display area but still cordon off the aircraft so
>> those pilots
>> that do not want people climbing over their planes even though they
>> parked in
>> the static display area.
>> I personally always enjoy shooing off the little body buiders that
>> like to try
>> to do chinups on my Pitot tube! Not to forget the syrupy ice cone that
>> was dropped
>> by Jr. on the taxiway by one of the customers allowed to wonder the
>> flightline
>> a recient airshow/fly-in I attended. I was thrill to find the purple
>> and
>> red goo under my belly after taxiing over melting pool. Of course
>> there was also
>> the couple that had to move out from under my wing serving as a shade
>> tree
>> for them so I could participate in the flyby. Guess they were not to
>> happy either
>> when they moved their lawn chairs to rear of the airplane directly
>> into
>> the prop blast when the engine started. They were warned by the
>> "volunteers" though.
>>
>> I know, "Doc, your are being so "customer" unfriendly." Well it is my
>> liablity
>> insurance that will looked at by the lawyers looking for those with
>> "deep pockets"
>> when someone gets hurt by my airplane too.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Sent: 1/4/2007 11:55:50 AM
>> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Yak-List: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story
>>
>>
>> To all what is the general feeling about these changes at Sun n Fun.
>>
>>
>> Published Thursday, December 28, 2006
>>
>> Sun 'n Fun Crowd to Get an Up-Close Look
>>
>> By Rick Rousos
>> The Ledger
>>
>>
>> LAKELAND - The Sun 'n Fun Fly-In experience will improve immeasurably
>> when the
>> Fly-In opens its flight line in April, at no extra charge, to all of
>> its customers.
>> The flight line features the most enticing attractions.
>>
>> The majestic warbirds, mostly fighter planes that date back as far as
>> World War
>> I, have always been one of Sun 'n Fun's most popular exhibits.
>>
>> The warbird area will be open to the general public, along with
>> "Choppertown,"
>> the vintage aircraft area and the experimental, or homebuilt, area.
>> The change
>> will allow people to get closer to planes on the runway. And because
>> pilots tend
>> to hang out by their planes, there will be much more interaction
>> between customers
>> and pilots.
>>
>> Opening the flight line was obviously a business decision for Sun 'n
>> Fun. But Sun
>> 'n Fun President John Burton said it was also a common-sense decision.
>>
>> "Our mission is to expose aviation to the general public,"
>> particularly children,
>> Burton said. "This was the way to do it."
>>
>> Wayne Boggs, Sun 'n Fun's director of operations, put it another way.
>> "If doing
>> this attracts just one child to a career in aviation, then it's worth
>> it," he
>> said.
>>
>> At past Fly-Ins, only visitors who were members of the extended
>> aviation family
>> or the Florida Air Museum on the Sun 'n Fun campus were given special
>> armbands
>> that served as admission through the gates at the flight line, which
>> were watched
>> by security guards.
>>
>> Or, members of the general public could take a tractor-powered tram
>> tour of the
>> flight line for $3. But the tram doesn't get people as close to the
>> powered-off
>> airplanes.
>>
>> The areas always open to the general public included workshops,
>> ultralights, aviation
>> concessions, the food court and a good, if not great, view of the
>> daily
>> air show.
>>
>> One of the biggest gripes of people was that they couldn't get near
>> the flight
>> line, with the complaints going something like this: "I'm paying all
>> this money
>> and don't get to see the whole place."
>>
>> A general admission ticket in recent years has gone for $30, $25 with
>> an Experimental
>> Aircraft Association or Air Museum membership. Burton said ticket
>> prices
>> this year won't be raised. He said there will be another incentive to
>> attract
>> local residents to the 2007 Fly-In, but details haven't been
>> finalized.
>>
>> There are a number of reasons Sun 'n Fun had maintained a policy that
>> kept the
>> general public at a distance. The first is safety and the second is
>> "the belt
>> buckle factor."
>>
>> Burton said the safety concern of bigger crowds on the flight line has
>> been about
>> the well-being of the public, the pilots and the airplanes.
>>
>> "But we've got about 200 volunteers on the flight line," Burton said.
>> He said those
>> workers will be instructed to keep customers out of danger and from
>> getting
>> too close to the airplanes.
>>
>> That's where the belt buckle factor, sometimes known as the suspender
>> factor, comes
>> in. Cockpits in airplanes can be very cool, but quite high off the
>> ground,
>> and people want to see them. So they climb up on the plane, Burton
>> said, and
>> scratch it with their belt buckle.
>>
>> The 2007 Fly-In is April 17-23.
>>
>> Rick Rousos can be reached at rick.rousos@theledger.com or
>> 863-802-7516.
>>
>> Please create an account or login to read this story
>> CREATE AN ACCOUNT
>>
>>
>> ALREADY A MEMBER? LOGIN NOW.
>> If you have already created an account, simply login to your account
>> using your
>> email and password below. If you need help, check our Member Center.
>>
>> Email
>> Password
>>
>> Remember my member ID and password on this computer.
>>
>>
>> Tom Elliott
>> CJ-6 NX63727
>> Sandy Valley NV
>> 3L2
>> 702-723-1223
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:15:21 PM PST US
>> From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Dennis Savarese
>>
>> Hello,
>> Can someone please e-mail me Dennis Savarese's phone number please??
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Jim Selby
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Roger Kemp
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:50 AM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story
>>
>>
>> Well, that's special. Will they feel as open hearted after a
>> "customer" FOD's a cockpit or the cute little 3 year "future in
>> aviation" tears away from Momma's arms and races into a prop? Yes sir,
>> one of those 200 volunteers will be there to catch them.
>> Set up a static display area but still cordon off the aircraft so
>> those pilots that do not want people climbing over their planes even
>> though they parked in the static display area.
>> I personally always enjoy shooing off the little body buiders that
>> like to try to do chinups on my Pitot tube! Not to forget the syrupy
>> ice
>> cone that was dropped by Jr. on the taxiway by one of the customers
>> allowed to wonder the flightline a recient airshow/fly-in I attended.
>> I
>> was thrill to find the purple and red goo under my belly after taxiing
>> over melting pool. Of course there was also the couple that had to
>> move
>> out from under my wing serving as a shade tree for them so I could
>> participate in the flyby. Guess they were not to happy either when
>> they
>> moved their lawn chairs to rear of the airplane directly into the
>> prop
>> blast when the engine started. They were warned by the "volunteers"
>> though.
>> I know, "Doc, your are being so "customer" unfriendly." Well it is
>> my
>> liablity insurance that will looked at by the lawyers looking for
>> those
>> with "deep pockets" when someone gets hurt by my airplane too.
>> Doc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com;yak-list-digest@matronics.com
>> Sent: 1/4/2007 11:55:50 AM
>> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Yak-List: Lakeland Fl. Newspaper story
>>
>>
>> To all what is the general feeling about these changes at Sun n
>> Fun.
>>
>>
>> Published Thursday, December 28, 2006
>>
>> Sun 'n Fun Crowd to Get an Up-Close Look
>>
>> By Rick Rousos
>> The Ledger
>>
>>
>> LAKELAND - The Sun 'n Fun Fly-In experience will improve
>> immeasurably when the Fly-In opens its flight line in April, at no
>> extra
>> charge, to all of its customers. The flight line features the most
>> enticing attractions.
>>
>> The majestic warbirds, mostly fighter planes that date back as far
>> as World War I, have always been one of Sun 'n Fun's most popular
>> exhibits.
>>
>> The warbird area will be open to the general public, along with
>> "Choppertown," the vintage aircraft area and the experimental, or
>> homebuilt, area. The change will allow people to get closer to planes
>> on
>> the runway. And because pilots tend to hang out by their planes, there
>> will be much more interaction between customers and pilots.
>>
>> Opening the flight line was obviously a business decision for Sun
>> 'n
>> Fun. But Sun 'n Fun President John Burton said it was also a
>> common-sense decision.
>>
>> "Our mission is to expose aviation to the general public," p
>> articularly children, Burton said. "This was the way to do it."
>>
>> Wayne Boggs, Sun 'n Fun's director of operations, put it another
>> way. "If doing this attracts just one child to a career in aviation,
>> then it's worth it," he said.
>>
>> At past Fly-Ins, only visitors who were members of the extended
>> aviation family or the Florida Air Museum on the Sun 'n Fun campus
>> were
>> given special armbands that served as admission through the gates at
>> the
>> flight line, which were watched by security guards.
>>
>> Or, members of the general public could take a tractor-powered
>> tram
>> tour of the flight line for $3. But the tram doesn't get people as
>> close
>> to the powered-off airplanes.
>>
>> The areas always open to the general public included workshops,
>> ultralights, aviation concessions, the food court and a good, if not
>> great, view of the daily air show.
>>
>> One of the biggest gripes of people was that they couldn't get
>> near
>> the flight line, with the complaints going something like this: "I'm
>> paying all this money and don't get to see the whole place."
>>
>> A general admission ticket in recent years has gone for $30, $25
>> with an Experimental Aircraft Association or Air Museum membership.
>> Burton said ticket prices this year won't be raised. He said there
>> will
>> be another incentive to attract local residents to the 2007 Fly-In,
>> but
>> details haven't been finalized.
>>
>> There are a number of reasons Sun 'n Fun had maintained a policy
>> that kept the general public at a distance. The first is safety and
>> the
>> second is "the belt buckle factor."
>>
>> Burton said the safety concern of bigger crowds on the flight line
>> has been about the well-being of the public, the pilots and the
>> airplanes.
>>
>> "But we've got about 200 volunteers on the flight line," Burton
>> said. He said those workers will be instructed to keep customers out
>> of
>> danger and from getting too close to the airplanes.
>>
>> That's where the belt buckle factor, sometimes known as the
>> suspender factor, comes in. Cockpits in airplanes can be very cool,
>> but
>> quite high off the ground, and people want to see them. So they climb
>> up
>> on the plane, Burton said, and scratch it with their belt buckle.
>>
>> The 2007 Fly-In is April 17-23.
>>
>> Rick Rousos can be reached at rick.rousos@theledger.com or
>> 863-802-7516.
>>
>> Please create an account or login to read this story
>> CREATE AN ACCOUNT
>>
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>> Time: 02:48:29 PM PST US
>> From: "john Fischer" <fish@aviation-tech.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Nametags
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>> Group,
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>> I picked up my Yak Nametag today, and here is a digial photo.
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>> The cost will be $10.00 ea + Shipping (Approx $1.00). I accept cash,
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>> the name tags.
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>> Thank YOU
>> John Fischer
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>> California City, CA 93504
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Mark is spot on about the 8802. I have used it to repair damaged tanks
on everything from my 1950 Fergy tractor to a Great Lakes I used to own,
good stuff.
Always yakin,
Doug Sapp
Yak Pilot wrote:
> On Aluminum tanks, I highly recommend 8802 fuel sealing compound or
> the equivalent. I believe Aircraft Spruce sells its. I have been
> using it on military aircraft fuel leaks since Vietnam and can tell
> you that it works.... GOOD.
>
> I put some on a crack on the acro fuel tank in my YAK-50 back in
> 1999. It still is holding perfectly.
>
> Some people will tell you that the only way to repair a tank is by
> welding. Welding works just fine if you get someone who knows what
> they are doing, and does not blow out the thin metal used on the
> Russian tanks (for example). You also must remove the tank and purge
> it for this type of repair.
>
> Using 8802, you just clean the tank to bare metal, use a preparation
> etcher fluid, glob it on there, and it's done. 8802 is a two part
> compound. It dries to a hard rubber feel, not solid. It can flex.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
> */PHCarter@aol.com/* wrote:
>
> Bob
>
> How did you repair the tank? I had this problem 18 months ago and
> repaired by welding. 6 months ago, the same leak reappeared at
> the same location. The crack grew straight across the weld
> (perpendicular) in a slightly different location. Rather then
> rewelding I tried gas tank epoxy and added a brace between the
> tank and the wing panel to take the "oil canning" stress off the
> tank. It has held so far, but from time to time I imagine
> (falsely) a leak is back. Would like to compare notes on how you
> repaired crack.
>
> Preston
>
>*
>
>
>*
>
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Preston,
I took the tank to a welding shop that purged, welded and tested it to
3psi. I installed it and filled with 100LL (w/mmo) leaving the covers
off overnight to check for leaks. I was worried about the hoses and
fittings, not the tank. Next day there was a wet spot on the weld.
Apparently just a pinhole but it wasn't going to get better. I drained
the tank, removed it, cleaned the welded area and sealed it with a 2
part epoxy sealer, 9700 FCR from Diversified Materials Co.
Re-installed, filled and gave it 48 hrs. This time it stayed dry so I
closed up the wing. Time will tell.
bob
52BN
PHCarter@aol.com wrote:
> Bob
>
> How did you repair the tank? I had this problem 18 months ago and
> repaired by welding. 6 months ago, the same leak reappeared at the
> same location. The crack grew straight across the weld
> (perpendicular) in a slightly different location. Rather then
> rewelding I tried gas tank epoxy and added a brace between the tank
> and the wing panel to take the "oil canning" stress off the tank. It
> has held so far, but from time to time I imagine (falsely) a leak is
> back. Would like to compare notes on how you repaired crack.
>
> Preston
> N6209F
>
>*
>
>
>*
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Nametags |
Hi John
Have sent you an email to your sign in address.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86408#86408
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For all those heading to Waycross, there will be a good number of us showing
up on Thursday, the more the merrier.. :-)
REMEMBER: Program letters, medicals, copy of annual, weight and balance,
all paperwork, time to make sure you have everything in hand.
See you all there.
David
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