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Wed 01/10/07


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 12:44 AM - colours smoke (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
     2. 12:45 AM - Aerostars (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
     3. 05:50 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Stephen Fox)
     4. 06:41 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Daniel Fortin)
     5. 06:54 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Ashley Battles)
     6. 06:59 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Ashley Battles)
     7. 08:11 AM - Hanger (FamilyGage@aol.com)
     8. 08:56 AM - Re: Hanger (JOE HOWSE)
     9. 09:21 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (David McGirt)
    10. 09:34 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Ashley Battles)
    11. 09:35 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Stephen Fox)
    12. 11:14 AM - Re: Colored Smoke (Roger Kemp)
    13. 02:02 PM - LLC (Steve Wieland)
    14. 02:58 PM - Re: Colored Smoke (Herb Coussons)
    15. 03:24 PM - Re: Colored Smoke (N13472@aol.com)
    16. 04:14 PM - Re: Colored Smoke (Stephen Fox)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:44:35 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
    Subject: colours smoke
    Global warming ( which USA politicians are now accepting I believe - cant but help notice NY + 20' in January !!) will produce coloured smoke when a low sun gets refracted by the pollution/ carbon partials in the atmosphere. You can see this effect in a couple of the shots taken as the sun was setting at Old Warden, UK. The only other way a piston a/c can produce colored smoke is pyrotechnics. If dye like used in jet a/c was used the whole a/c would be seriously and irrevocably colored ! I believe the dyes used by jet a/c are biro inks and the crews use full NBC suits when handling them. (In UK at least) BTW you can make your smoke smell nice if needs be without detriment to the a/c or pilot. :-) Happy new year to all. Mj From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net> Subject: Colored Smoke Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color other than white? David


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    Time: 12:45:46 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mj@yakuk.com>
    Subject: Aerostars
    The vid ends when the Yak 50 lands/ taxis From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Subject: Aerostars My version cuts off after about 1/3 of the play time. Any ideas why? Good video though! At least for the part that I got to see. Doc


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    Time: 05:50:08 AM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Colored Smoke
    Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. POTUS On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a > color other > than white? > Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The > colored smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke > generators using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. > There was thread about this some time ago when I asked the same > question. ...Blitz >


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    Time: 06:41:15 AM PST US
    From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Colored Smoke
    Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both continued with white smoke. D >From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 > >Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question >came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of >smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. > >POTUS >On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > >>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color >>other >>than white? >>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored >>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators >>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread >>about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >> >


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    Time: 06:54:37 AM PST US
    From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
    Subject: Colored Smoke
    Julie Clark also uses it. At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the exhaust. They may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone that was there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also heard that whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have something I've never heard of or seen before. But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and not as easy to see. ab -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both continued with white smoke. D >From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 > >Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question >came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of >smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. > >POTUS >On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > >>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color >>other >>than white? >>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored >>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators >>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread >>about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >> >


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    Time: 06:59:35 AM PST US
    From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
    Subject: Colored Smoke
    I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic. It's usually very thin and the color is not easy to see. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Battles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> Julie Clark also uses it. At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the exhaust. They may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone that was there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also heard that whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have something I've never heard of or seen before. But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and not as easy to see. ab -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both continued with white smoke. D >From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 > >Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question >came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of >smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. > >POTUS >On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > >>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color >>other >>than white? >>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored >>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators >>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread >>about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >> >


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    Time: 08:11:40 AM PST US
    From: FamilyGage@aol.com
    Subject: Hanger
    RPA Members, I have some items that may be of interest, and are for sale off list. Have recently had Dennis install his auto plug conversion. Also, an avionics upgrade at Gulf Coast Avionics. All of the items listed were removed in proper working order when removed. 1. Dennis removed the entire Russian ignition harness, carb horns for carb heat. 2. Two complete sets (18) Russian spark plugs. Each set has about 200 hours. They have been cleaned and gapped. 3. The below items removed by Gulf Coast from my 2000 Yak-52W. a. Intervox Intercom voice actuated intercom. Serial #17388. b. Mid-Contenent Instruments quartz electric clock. S/N K99736. c. Cockpit instrument (red-white) 28 volt light, with coiled flexible cord. d. Vertical Speed 3 1/2" instrument. 0-2000,' UMA P/N 8-310-20. e. Electric Gyro Corporation Turn Coordinator, 3 1/2," Model 1394-T-100-72, S/N 9811-151. f. Front cockpit overhead magnetic compass. Some of you may remember my 2/3 scale P-51, which is now on display at the Valiant Air Command at Space Coast Air Port. These instruments were working when removed five years ago, but have not been checked out recently. 1. UMA oil pressure sender. 0-150 psi. P/N A2330 2. UMA VDO, P/N 1E3, S/N A1376. 4. AmeriKing ELT model AK-350, 1,000-30,000. S/N H3529-851 13.8-27.5 Volts. 5. Grimes Cockpit Utility Light, 15-000743. 6. ICS Nav-Com-Vor radio. 720 channel and all Vor frequencies. The P-51 was built at Edwards AFB by two engineers who were working on the X-Plane series. They made everything by hand, without any plans from 1964-1978. These instruments were removed after I purchased the plane from an Air Force pilot. Since they have radium dials, the rebuild shops would not touch them. They can make a nice trophy place, or a paper weight. They were removed from various military planes at Edwards. 1. VSI, 3 1/2", 0-6,000". Navy Stock # R8810750-110-000. Mfg. part # RC-60. Aerosonic Instrument Co. U.S. Property. 2. Turn and Slip 3 1/2" 4 minute turn. R.C. Allen Business Machines, Inc. 28 volt DC system. Mil Spec 1-7806A. U.S. Government Property. 3. 2 1/2" Cylinder Head temperature, 0-250 C. Made by Simpson. 4. Manifold Pressure in/hg. 2 1/2". 0-80". New pitot-static blade type mast. Topflight Design Group. New Jeppesen Skybound System. Bought this to download Jeppesen updates for a Garmin 430. Can hold cards for various units. Never used, paid $150.00. Sounds like Waycross will be great. Look forward to seeing everyone. Ray Gage 1858 Seclusion Drive Port Orange, FL 32128 (386)304-6808


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    Time: 08:56:20 AM PST US
    From: JOE HOWSE <joeh@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Hanger
    Ray How much for the carb air horns? Joe joeh@shaw.ca


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    Time: 09:21:52 AM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Colored Smoke
    Good points by all.. Ok, here is the next trick question.. WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial engines.. ( the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. ) ie.. good smoke, and the least mess on the belly.. David -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Battles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic. It's usually very thin and the color is not easy to see. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Battles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> Julie Clark also uses it. At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the exhaust. They may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone that was there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also heard that whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have something I've never heard of or seen before. But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and not as easy to see. ab -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both continued with white smoke. D >From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 > >Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question >came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of >smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. > >POTUS >On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > >>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color >>other >>than white? >>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored >>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators >>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread >>about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >> >


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    Time: 09:34:46 AM PST US
    From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
    Subject: Colored Smoke
    For the Stearman & T-6, Greg's favorite for his engines is Texaco Corvus 113 or 13. If you can, try to make sure the barrels haven't been left outside for amounts of time. Some air shows will buy too many barrels and keep them for the show next year...which is fine as long as they are sealed. Once they are open, if they aren't kept in a dry place, they will rust and get stuff in it that will tear your engine up. If you ever question it...try to find something that can act as a screen to filter from the barrel into your tank...or just MAKE them open up a brand new barrel. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David McGirt Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke Good points by all.. Ok, here is the next trick question.. WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial engines.. ( the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. ) ie.. good smoke, and the least mess on the belly.. David -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Battles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic. It's usually very thin and the color is not easy to see. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Battles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> Julie Clark also uses it. At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the exhaust. They may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone that was there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also heard that whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have something I've never heard of or seen before. But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and not as easy to see. ab -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both continued with white smoke. D >From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 > >Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question >came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of >smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. > >POTUS >On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > >>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color >>other >>than white? >>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored >>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators >>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread >>about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >> >


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    Time: 09:35:10 AM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Colored Smoke
    I've really like the oil from these folks: http://www.mdw-aviation.com/ On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:19 PM, David McGirt wrote: > > Good points by all.. > > > Ok, here is the next trick question.. > > WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial > engines.. ( > the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. ) > > ie.. good smoke, and the least mess on the belly.. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley > Battles > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:02 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> > > I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic. It's usually > very > thin and the color is not easy to see. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ashley > Battles > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:57 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> > > Julie Clark also uses it. > At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has > actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the > exhaust. They > may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone > that was > there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also > heard that > whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have > something I've never heard of or seen before. > > But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and > not as > easy to see. > > ab > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The > simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know > any more > details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency > to clog > the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each > show. Both > continued with white smoke. > > D > >> From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 >> >> Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this >> question >> came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a >> type of >> smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. >> >> POTUS >> On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a >>> color >>> other >>> than white? >>> Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The >>> colored >>> smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke >>> generators >>> using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There >>> was thread >>> about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >>> >> > >


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    Time: 11:14:22 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Colored Smoke
    Try Super Dri aviation smoke oil. I have used it on Radio control models with it being much less messy that the castro oil the is the fuel for the R/C's. Their advertisement claims it to be the least messy. Guess your gonna make me put a smoke system in the 50 now huh? Doc > [Original Message] > From: David McGirt <david@mcgirt.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 1/10/2007 11:33:00 AM > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > Good points by all.. > > > Ok, here is the next trick question.. > > WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial engines.. ( > the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. ) > > ie.. good smoke, and the least mess on the belly.. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Battles > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:02 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> > > I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic. It's usually very > thin and the color is not easy to see. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Battles > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:57 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> > > Julie Clark also uses it. > At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has > actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the exhaust. They > may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone that was > there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also heard that > whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have > something I've never heard of or seen before. > > But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and not as > easy to see. > > ab > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > > Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The > simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more > details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog > the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both > continued with white smoke. > > D > > >From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 > > > >Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question > >came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of > >smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. > > > >POTUS > >On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: > > > >>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color > >>other > >>than white? > >>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored > >>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators > >>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread > >>about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz > >> > > > >


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    Time: 02:02:32 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
    Subject: LLC
    Hi folks... I have a '96 Yak-52 that I want to put in my LLC.. Any body have info on how to do this?? To include Faa registration, opes specs etc Thanks. Wheels N42SW


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    Time: 02:58:07 PM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Colored Smoke
    I use Canopus 13 by chevron - this is easy to find in bulk. It does leave a residue on the plane but is as easy to clean up as the bottom of the plane and the sides from the "radial sling" after hard acro. I have tweaked the pump and I hear of guys tweaking the nozzels to get the best burn rate and cut down on the residue. Attached is a link with a good article comparing Super-dri to Canopus. I still stick with Canopus as I can get one or two barrels a year almost free. http://www.iac.org/featured/Featured%20article%20-%20Vol.32,%20No.04% 20April%202003.pdf Herb On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:19 AM, David McGirt wrote: > > Good points by all.. > > > Ok, here is the next trick question.. > > WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial > engines.. ( > the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. ) > > ie.. good smoke, and the least mess on the belly.. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley > Battles > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:02 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> > > I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic. It's usually > very > thin and the color is not easy to see. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ashley > Battles > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:57 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com> > > Julie Clark also uses it. > At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has > actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the > exhaust. They > may have a patent on it. I didn't pay much attention, so someone > that was > there may know and I will make a few phone calls. I have also > heard that > whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have > something I've never heard of or seen before. > > But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and > not as > easy to see. > > ab > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke > > > <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The > simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know > any more > details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency > to clog > the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each > show. Both > continued with white smoke. > > D > >> From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com> >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Colored Smoke >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500 >> >> Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this >> question >> came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a >> type of >> smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft. >> >> POTUS >> On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a >>> color >>> other >>> than white? >>> Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The >>> colored >>> smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke >>> generators >>> using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There >>> was thread >>> about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz >>> >> > >


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    Time: 03:24:33 PM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Colored Smoke
    In a message dated 1/10/2007 9:37:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com writes: they will rust and get stuff in it that will tear your engine up. If you ever question it...try to find How can oil injected into the exhaust pipe JUST before the outlet Tear your eng up? Tom Elliott CJ-6 NX63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 04:14:16 PM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Colored Smoke
    On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:23 PM, N13472@aol.com wrote: > How can oil injected into the exhaust pipe JUST before the outlet > Tear your eng up? > Well It probably won't, but I get Ashley's point. I would prefer not having rust particles floating in my smoke oil clogging the line, maybe the pump and the injector. POTUS




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