Yak-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/19/07


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville (Andy Hawes)
     2. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville (Andy Hawes)
     3. 07:58 AM - Superstars! (Ashley Battles)
     4. 08:56 AM - Yak CFI in Reno area (Chris Harding)
     5. 09:10 AM - Re: Yak CFI in Reno area (Stephen Fox)
     6. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     7. 12:55 PM - Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (David McGirt)
     8. 01:06 PM - Program Letter (Scooter)
     9. 02:47 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    10. 03:46 PM - Re: Yak Nametags (john Fischer)
    11. 04:17 PM - Primer Question (Stephen J. Byers)
    12. 05:16 PM - Re: Program Letter (A. Dennis Savarese)
    13. 05:34 PM - Re: Primer Question (Jim Griffin)
    14. 05:52 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    15. 05:59 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (Roger Kemp)
    16. 06:02 PM - Re: Primer Question (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    17. 06:05 PM - Re: Primer Question (Stephen J. Byers)
    18. 06:50 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (Roger Kemp)
    19. 07:18 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (David McGirt)
    20. 07:31 PM - Re: Primer Question (Walter Lannon)
    21. 07:31 PM - Re: history made (DaBear)
    22. 07:35 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (DaBear)
    23. 07:49 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (David McGirt)
    24. 08:45 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (Roger Kemp)
    25. 09:37 PM - Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? (ronald wasson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:33:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville
    From: Andy Hawes <andy717@comcast.net>
    Thanks LawnDart, I'm still not clear on the various originations of these engines. Apparently mine will be coming from Bulgaria. I wonder if there is a web page around that gives the rookie some details on where all the various M14's are coming from? On 1/18/07 10:09 PM, "LawnDart" <dougr@yak-18t.com> wrote: > > Hello Andy, > Good luck with the project; Mark is a decent guy. > > BTW, that engine on RR#2 is not from Vedeneyev - parts likely, but not the > whole. RR#1 has a Russian built engine. > > Cheers. > LawnDart > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88759#88759 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:35:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville
    From: Andy Hawes <andy717@comcast.net>
    Sorry, just got word back from Mark at New Century Aerosport -- it has not sold. Crap. I was hoping that it sold for a quick snap shot at a general street value for the thing. I believe Jeff has taken it off the market when I last talked to him -- Andy Hawes On 1/19/07 12:45 AM, "Yak Pilot" <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote: > Folks, excuse me for passing alone hear-say information. I had heard that the > demo Radial Rocket sold from a friend of mine. I went and looked at the > advertisement some time ago and when I was told that it had sold, I never > checked to see if the story was accurate. > > > > So.... sorry if I passed incorrect info. > > > > Regardless of whether it did or not, it remains one heck of an airplane! :-) > > > > Mark Bitterlich > > N50YK > > LawnDart <dougr@yak-18t.com> wrote: > >> >> Hello Andy, >> Good luck with the project; Mark is a decent guy. >> >> BTW, that engine on RR#2 is not from Vedeneyev - parts likely, but not the >> whole. RR#1 has a Russian built >> >> >> >


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    Time: 07:58:32 AM PST US
    From: "Ashley Battles" <ashley.battles@aircapitalins.com>
    Subject: Superstars!
    Re: Yak-List: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from NashvilleThe US Aerostars are famous again! Harvey, Paul & David are on the current cover of Trade-A-Plane in formation at the Milwaukee Air Show! How cool is it that they can sell their air show performance on the cover of Trade-A-Plane without ever selling their airplane. Yaks (and Nanchangs) Rock! Ashley


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    Time: 08:56:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Yak CFI in Reno area
    From: "Chris Harding" <charding@houston.rr.com>
    A friend of a friend will be traveling to Reno, NV to pick up a Yak-52 that hes just about to buy and needs the usual 5 hours check-out. Does anyone know of a Yak-qualified CFI in the area? Thanks in advance, Chris Harding Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88883#88883


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    Time: 09:10:18 AM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak CFI in Reno area
    The RPA web site has a list of CFIs around the country. Look under flight training. Steve Fox On Jan 19, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Chris Harding wrote: > A friend of a friend will be traveling to Reno, NV to pick up a > Yak-52 that he=99s just about to buy and needs the usual 5 hours > check-out. > > Does anyone know of a Yak-qualified CFI in the area? > > Thanks in advance, > Chris Harding


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    Time: 12:16:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Thanks Andy, and again my apologies for passing along info that I did not personally verify. That's what you get when you "assume". Mark Bitterlich N50YK -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Andy Hawes Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:33 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Radial Rocket, Greetings from Nashville Sorry, just got word back from Mark at New Century Aerosport -- it has not sold. Crap. I was hoping that it sold for a quick snap shot at a general street value for the thing. I believe Jeff has taken it off the market when I last talked to him -- Andy Hawes


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    Time: 12:55:57 PM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David


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    Time: 01:06:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Program Letter
    From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Is the program letter due at the beginning of each year or is it every year based on when you turned in the first one? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88948#88948


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    Time: 02:47:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    I know a lot of Carbon monoxide is getting into my 50 simply by the way I feel after flights that are longer than normal. Not really a good thing. I fly summer and winter with that small vent by the front windscreen open ALL the time and try to breath THAT air. If one could verify that said air from that source is "clean", it would not take a lot to build a cover and hose that then fed a mask. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McGirt Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 15:55 Subject: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David


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    Time: 03:46:45 PM PST US
    From: "john Fischer" <fish@aviation-tech.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak Nametags
    Group, Today I will be mailing out all of the nametags ordered so far, including the ones quoted as going out next week. Smash, I still need an address where you would like me to mail your nametags. Thank You John Fischer California City, CA Yak-52, N213YA


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    Time: 04:17:43 PM PST US
    From: "Stephen J. Byers" <steve@sennex.com>
    Subject: Primer Question
    I am a "new" CJ-6a owner. The plane isn't new I am new at owning / soon to be flying one. Pictures at www.sennex.com/cj6a The primer has two positions I will illustrate below Pos #1 Neutral Pos #2 Plane wall --------- \ | / \ | / \ | / cockpit <--Front of plane Which position primes what?


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    Time: 05:16:06 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Program Letter
    At the beginning of each calendar year regardless of when you turned in your first program letter. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Yak-List: Program Letter > > Is the program letter due at the beginning of each year or is it every > year based on when you turned in the first one? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88948#88948 > > >


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    Time: 05:34:40 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Griffin" <jgriffint28@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Primer Question
    Are you talking about the wobble pump? Jim Griffin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Byers" <steve@sennex.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: Yak-List: Primer Question > > I am a "new" CJ-6a owner. The plane isn't new I am new at owning / soon > to > be flying one. > > Pictures at www.sennex.com/cj6a > > The primer has two positions I will illustrate below > > > Pos #1 Neutral Pos #2 > > Plane wall > --------- > \ | / > \ | / > \ | / > > cockpit > > <--Front of plane > > Which position primes what? > > >


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    Time: 05:52:29 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    In a message dated 1/19/2007 3:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, david@mcgirt.net writes: I'll bring my CO 2 monitor. Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David


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    Time: 05:59:55 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    Yes I have thought of it. The problem is the scrubbers are activated by heat to take up CO and convert it to CO2. There are a couple of companies that make facemask for the woodlands fire fighters. Again activated by hot air as I can deduce from their literature. It uses your expired gases from respiration to activate the porous gel pelets. The mask is a real attention getter! It would take doing PFT's on someone using the mask to see what their work of breathing is exercising to see if it is practical for the YAK/CJ drivers. Whiffs is the company that makes the CO scrubbers for NASCAR. They will not even talk to me. Guess, I do not represent enough income for them! Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: David McGirt Sent: 1/19/2007 3:03:26 PM Subject: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David


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    Time: 06:02:03 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Primer Question
    In a message dated 1/19/2007 7:19:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve@sennex.com writes: If it is the primer you're talking about, turn the knob until the little star lines up with a small screw toward the inside. This screw is part of the mounting bracket for the primer. Also you'll know the primer is closed and locked if you when you pull up on it, it WILL NOT come up. If it is the wobble pump you're talking about, it does not matter where the handle is placed. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby --> Yak-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Byers" <steve@sennex.com> I am a "new" CJ-6a owner. The plane isn't new I am new at owning / soon to be flying one. Pictures at www.sennex.com/cj6a The primer has two positions I will illustrate below Pos #1 Neutral Pos #2 Plane wall --------- \ | / \ | / \ | / cockpit <--Front of plane Which position primes what?


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    Time: 06:05:59 PM PST US
    From: "Stephen J. Byers" <steve@sennex.com>
    Subject: Primer Question
    Not the wobble pump this is the primer. Under pilots right elbow Pos #1 would be when it is turned counter clockwise and pos#2 would be when it is turned clockwise. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Griffin Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Primer Question Are you talking about the wobble pump? Jim Griffin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Byers" <steve@sennex.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: Yak-List: Primer Question > > I am a "new" CJ-6a owner. The plane isn't new I am new at owning / soon > to > be flying one. > > Pictures at www.sennex.com/cj6a > > The primer has two positions I will illustrate below > > > Pos #1 Neutral Pos #2 > > Plane wall > --------- > \ | / > \ | / > \ | / > > cockpit > > <--Front of plane > > Which position primes what? > > >


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    Time: 06:50:31 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide are different. Are you monitoring CO (carbon monoxide) or CO2 (carbon dioxide). Both can kill and both are oderless. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 1/19/2007 7:59:09 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? In a message dated 1/19/2007 3:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, david@mcgirt.net writes: I'll bring my CO 2 monitor. Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David


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    Time: 07:18:33 PM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    Good points, the other thought I had was to create a new fresh air duct out on the wing , and route that into the cockpit to feed a mask or at least the cabin area.. I have done several 6+ hour trips in my bird, and they all ended with me a lot for fatigued than I should have been.. so I would really like to find a better solution. _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:59 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Yes I have thought of it. The problem is the scrubbers are activated by heat to take up CO and convert it to CO2. There are a couple of companies that make facemask for the woodlands fire fighters. Again activated by hot air as I can deduce from their literature. It uses your expired gases from respiration to activate the porous gel pelets. The mask is a real attention getter! It would take doing PFT's on someone using the mask to see what their work of breathing is exercising to see if it is practical for the YAK/CJ drivers. Whiffs is the company that makes the CO scrubbers for NASCAR. They will not even talk to me. Guess, I do not represent enough income for them! Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: David McGirt <mailto:david@mcgirt.net> Sent: 1/19/2007 3:03:26 PM Subject: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David <>


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    Time: 07:31:38 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Primer Question
    Stephen; The primer used in the C J is identical to the standard Russian primer used in theYak, Sukhoi, etc. It is designed as a dual purpose hand fuel pump. The center position is off - where it must be at all times when not in use. One side is plumbed to the intake manifold for priming prior to start. The other side is plumbed into the carburetor to act as an emergency fuel supply in the event of failure of the engine driven fuel pump. This description applies to all installations (that I know of) EXCEPT for the CJ. The CJ has a separate emergency fuel wobble pump so does not require the lower capacity primer pump. It has been modified for the CJ installation by the addition of a bypass line so that both sides prime the manifold. So use clockwise or c'clockwise to prime but be sure it is down and centered when you are finished. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Byers" <steve@sennex.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Yak-List: Primer Question > > I am a "new" CJ-6a owner. The plane isn't new I am new at owning / soon > to > be flying one. > > Pictures at www.sennex.com/cj6a > > The primer has two positions I will illustrate below > > > Pos #1 Neutral Pos #2 > > Plane wall > --------- > \ | / > \ | / > \ | / > > cockpit > > <--Front of plane > > Which position primes what? > > >


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    Time: 07:31:39 PM PST US
    From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: history made
    Exact Copy, no. Designed from scratch, NO! Improved on Yak-18 design, YES! Dabear cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/18/2007 4:33:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mj@yakuk.com writes: > > > THERE! Now if any tells you a CJ-6 is a copy of a Yak 18A let them > look at this picture!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Its no wonder the Chinese designed the CJ-6. > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > On Monday 15th January 2007 the very first occasion in Europe a > YAK 18A and > CJ6 flew together in formation. Attached picture. Has this been > done in USA > with the 18, 18A and CJ6? > > > P1 was in the back seat of the 18A before you ask !! > > > Mark Jefferies for YAK <http://www.yakuk.com> UK Ltd > Lt Gransden Airfield <http://www.yakuk.com/EGMJ.asp> > Sandy, Beds > SG19 3BP - England > Conditions of business <http://www.yakuk.com/cob.doc> > 00 44 1767 651 156 ph > 00 44 1767 651 157 fx > 00 44 7785 538 317 mob > <skype:mark_jefferies?call> My status > Get Skype <http://www.skype.com/go/download> and call me for free. > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 07:35:52 PM PST US
    From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    I had a similar idea, but was going to put a NACA duct near the top of the tail to bring in fresh air. haven't done it yet. DaBear David McGirt wrote: > > Good points, the other thought I had was to create a new fresh air > duct out on the wing , and route that into the cockpit to feed a mask > or at least the cabin area.. I have done several 6+ hour trips in my > bird, and they all ended with me a lot for fatigued than I should have > been.. so I would really like to find a better solution > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp > *Sent:* Friday, January 19, 2007 8:59 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? > > Yes I have thought of it. The problem is the scrubbers are activated > by heat to take up CO and convert it to CO2. There are a couple of > companies that make facemask for the woodlands fire fighters. Again > activated by hot air as I can deduce from their literature. It uses > your expired gases from respiration to activate the porous gel pelets. > The mask is a real attention getter! It would take doing PFT's on > someone using the mask to see what their work of breathing is > exercising to see if it is practical for the YAK/CJ drivers. > > Whiffs is the company that makes the CO scrubbers for NASCAR. They > will not even talk to me. Guess, I do not represent enough income for > them! > > Doc > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* David McGirt <mailto:david@mcgirt.net> > > *To: *yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com> > > *Sent:* 1/19/2007 3:03:26 PM > > *Subject:* Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? > > Ok, > > I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask > the group. > > Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to > clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 > mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? > > I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and > Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in > Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. > > David > > *<>* > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > * *


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    Time: 07:49:28 PM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    Good point, on the top of the tail would not work, there is not enough room inside to get a good size hose down the middle of the tail... just ran a video cable through there, and THAT was a pain.. but on the fiberglass on the front of the tail would not be a bad spot.. easy to route from there.. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaBear Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? I had a similar idea, but was going to put a NACA duct near the top of the tail to bring in fresh air. haven't done it yet. DaBear David McGirt wrote: > > Good points, the other thought I had was to create a new fresh air > duct out on the wing , and route that into the cockpit to feed a mask > or at least the cabin area.. I have done several 6+ hour trips in my > bird, and they all ended with me a lot for fatigued than I should have > been.. so I would really like to find a better solution. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp > *Sent:* Friday, January 19, 2007 8:59 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? > > Yes I have thought of it. The problem is the scrubbers are activated > by heat to take up CO and convert it to CO2. There are a couple of > companies that make facemask for the woodlands fire fighters. Again > activated by hot air as I can deduce from their literature. It uses > your expired gases from respiration to activate the porous gel pelets. > The mask is a real attention getter! It would take doing PFT's on > someone using the mask to see what their work of breathing is > exercising to see if it is practical for the YAK/CJ drivers. > > Whiffs is the company that makes the CO scrubbers for NASCAR. They > will not even talk to me. Guess, I do not represent enough income for > them! > > Doc > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* David McGirt <mailto:david@mcgirt.net> > > *To: *yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com> > > *Sent:* 1/19/2007 3:03:26 PM > > *Subject:* Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? > > Ok, > > I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask > the group. > > Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to > clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 > mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? > > I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and > Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in > Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. > > David > > *<>* > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > * *


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    Time: 08:45:29 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    100% O2 supplied by a closed circuit to a tight fitting aviator's mask. The fresh air source out in the wing is a good idea also. Had though that might work to but have been lazy! Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: David McGirt Sent: 1/19/2007 9:24:11 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Good points, the other thought I had was to create a new fresh air duct out on the wing , and route that into the cockpit to feed a mask or at least the cabin area.. I have done several 6+ hour trips in my bird, and they all ended with me a lot for fatigued than I should have been.. so I would really like to find a better solution From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:59 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Yes I have thought of it. The problem is the scrubbers are activated by heat to take up CO and convert it to CO2. There are a couple of companies that make facemask for the woodlands fire fighters. Again activated by hot air as I can deduce from their literature. It uses your expired gases from respiration to activate the porous gel pelets. The mask is a real attention getter! It would take doing PFT's on someone using the mask to see what their work of breathing is exercising to see if it is practical for the YAK/CJ drivers. Whiffs is the company that makes the CO scrubbers for NASCAR. They will not even talk to me. Guess, I do not represent enough income for them! Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: David McGirt Sent: 1/19/2007 3:03:26 PM Subject: Yak-List: Breathing Clean Air - Masks? Ok, I am sure I am not the only one to think about this, so I will ask the group. Has anyone thought about attaching a mask to an air scrubber to clean the air we are breathing in the cockpits? Say using a O2 mask for our helmets, and finding something for the other end? I know Pappy has done a lot of studies on the amount of CO2 and Carbon Diox in the cockpit, and I hope to borrow his monitor in Waycross next week to monitor my A/C. David <>


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    Time: 09:37:28 PM PST US
    From: ronald wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Breathing Clean Air - Masks?
    I put a simple scoop on in place of the bottom header tank panel of the CJ. It seems to solve most of the problem by having negative psi in the cabin. Most folks with smoke say it starts creeping in from the tail and works forward . Either way it seems to stop it and a big increase in cooling air for the cabin in summer. Open a vent and there is more airflow with help from the vent air out. Attached is a picture. There are no changes to the plane. Only took day to make. I have a son with lung problems and he noticed the difference without telling him. You can't blow air into a bottle unless there are 2 large holes IE vent and exit <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>




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