---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/27/07: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:49 AM - carb temp (Mark Jefferies YAK UK) 2. 05:17 AM - Re: carb temp (Roger Kemp) 3. 12:51 PM - parts (Doug Sapp) 4. 01:43 PM - Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System (Rob Rowe) 5. 05:01 PM - Air Water Separators (John Nafziger) 6. 05:50 PM - Re: Air Water Separators (Stephen Fox) 7. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System (A. Dennis Savarese) 8. 06:04 PM - Re: Air Water Separators (A. Dennis Savarese) 9. 06:14 PM - Re: Air Water Separators (Stephen Fox) 10. 07:38 PM - Formation Flying (Jay Land) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:48 AM PST US From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" Subject: Yak-List: carb temp Besides, what are you going to do with carb temp. The 50 does not have carb heat. At least mine does not. Roger, YAK 18 (all types) 50, 52 have carb heat as standard. In service they will crack if not supported so the Ruskies removed them when they broke. Simple fix solution but....as pointed out carb ice does affect the engine at 0-+5'c usually at idle when ground warming the engine or on approach to land. When landing the first sign is that when you need power the throttle cant be advanced. Then you crash on the under shoot in bad cases as happened to a 55 in the UK. When on the ground the engine stops and you wonder why as it started again as soon as the you got out and walked around !! We always fit and ensure that carb heat works on all YAK's over here. Mark Jefferies for YAK UK Ltd ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:17 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: carb temp Thanks for the info Mark, Remember our worst winter flying day in Lower Alabama is 35- 40 deg F. Me personally, I am not flying in colder (we do get there occasionally). But having carb heat is not a bad idea. We can hash the effects of a venturi on the cooling of air and carb icing at 80 deg F. also, but most of our A/C coming from Lithuania arrive without the Ram Horns. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK > To: YAK USA LIST > Date: 2/27/2007 3:00:43 AM > Subject: Yak-List: carb temp > > > > > Besides, what are you going to do with carb temp. The 50 does not have > carb > heat. At least mine does not. > > > > Roger, YAK 18 (all types) 50, 52 have carb heat as standard. In service > they will crack if not supported so the Ruskies removed them when they > broke. Simple fix solution but....as pointed out carb ice does affect the > engine at 0-+5'c usually at idle when ground warming the engine or on > approach to land. When landing the first sign is that when you need power > the throttle cant be advanced. Then you crash on the under shoot in bad > cases as happened to a 55 in the UK. When on the ground the engine stops and > you wonder why as it started again as soon as the you got out and walked > around !! > > > > We always fit and ensure that carb heat works on all YAK's over here. > > > > Mark Jefferies for YAK UK Ltd > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:14 PM PST US From: Doug Sapp Subject: Yak-List: parts Jim Goolsby, give me a call. Doug Sapp ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:02 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System From: "Rob Rowe" So that just leaves the other YAK DC power mystery ... why does the battery discharge if the master switch is (mistakenly) left in the external power position (down)? According to the schematics the battery should be isolated & nothing should form a load ... but something does, as this occurs on -52s & I think on -50s too. Don't know if the CJ's have the same problem. I'll get my coat! [Wink] Rob R Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97699#97699 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:45 PM PST US From: John Nafziger Subject: Yak-List: Air Water Separators I'm looking for an Air Water Separator, either the original russain with the snot valve drain or an equivalent. I have the overboard pressure relief drain, but still get enormous snot build-up in the tank. Any suggestions or advice appreciated. Thanks, John Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:11 PM PST US From: Stephen Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Water Separators John- I believe Doug Sapp has these. They are for the CJ, but they fit just fine on the Yak. Steve On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:00 PM, John Nafziger wrote: > > I'm looking for an Air Water Separator, either the original russain > with the snot valve drain or an equivalent. I have the overboard > pressure relief drain, but still get enormous snot build-up in the > tank. Any suggestions or advice appreciated. > Thanks, > John > > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:20 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System Rob, As you have said, schematically it is virtually impossible for that to happen. In fact, on my personal airplane (52) I have left the battery/external power switch down for days at a time and did not have any discharging of the aircraft battery. So whatever is causing it is not reflected in the electrical schematics. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Rowe" Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: White Paper on Russian Generator System > > So that just leaves the other YAK DC power mystery ... why does the > battery discharge if the master switch is (mistakenly) left in the > external power position (down)? > > According to the schematics the battery should be isolated & nothing > should form a load ... but something does, as this occurs on -52s & I > think on -50s too. Don't know if the CJ's have the same problem. > > I'll get my coat! [Wink] > > Rob R > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97699#97699 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:02 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Water Separators Steve, Sorry to challenge you on this one, but WHERE do they fit fine on the Yak 52? That is, without modification. The ones that Doug has are outstanding. But unfortunately they are 3 times the size of the stock air filter on the Yak 52 and unless someone has made a modification to the system, they will not fit on the firewall in place of the stock air filter. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Fox" Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Water Separators > > John- > I believe Doug Sapp has these. They are for the CJ, but they fit just > fine on the Yak. > > Steve > On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:00 PM, John Nafziger wrote: > >> >> I'm looking for an Air Water Separator, either the original russain >> with the snot valve drain or an equivalent. I have the overboard >> pressure relief drain, but still get enormous snot build-up in the >> tank. Any suggestions or advice appreciated. >> Thanks, >> John >> >> >> >> >> Bored stiff? Loosen up... >> Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. >> http://games.yahoo.com/games/front >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:06 PM PST US From: Stephen Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Water Separators Opps Dennis you are absolutely correct - I had a brain hiccup. John please ignore my last post and listen to some one far wise. Steve On Feb 27, 2007, at 9:03 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > Sorry to challenge you on this one, but WHERE do they fit fine on > the Yak 52? That is, without modification. The ones that Doug has > are outstanding. But unfortunately they are 3 times the size of the > stock air filter on the Yak 52 and unless someone has made a > modification to the system, they will not fit on the firewall in > place of the stock air filter. > Dennis ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:40 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Formation Flying From: Jay Land No this is formation flying! Ray Bethell, 8-time-Multiple Kite World Champion is flying the kites. 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