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Mon 04/02/07


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 03:28 AM - Re: Re: ARS VI Registration now open! (kp)
     2. 05:43 AM - Re: Oxygen (Michael Bolton)
     3. 01:22 PM - Sport Aviation april 2007 (Russ aka Duncan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:28:10 AM PST US
    From: "kp" <pilko2@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: ARS VI Registration now open!
    > tail. Now if we can see that done with the squadron seat pack, I'll feel > even more reasured. Reacon this Bubba is up for another fling?! > Doc I reckon he's a sucker for punishment as the video features two different aircraft. I wonder if three in a row was too much for him ? Barking mad !


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    Time: 05:43:02 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Bolton" <mjbjhf@truvista.net>
    Subject: Re: Oxygen
    National Welders here in SC delivers compressed air in a silver bottle. Now I'm really confussed. lol Hope to see you all at Lakeland. Michael Bolton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Davis" <mark@pld.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oxygen > > My local Co-op leases me compressed air in a yellow bottle clearly labeled > "Compressed Air" which is serviced by Airgas Company. There may not be a > "standard" color for compressed air. > > Mark Davis > N44YK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:32 AM > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oxygen > > >> >> Gill, >> Answer: NO! Oxygen is always in a GREEN bottle (by US and international >> standards). Commercially sold compressed air should never be in a GREEN >> bottle. The yokes for the tanks are different to prevent some Darwinian >> from crossing them up. Not to say that they do not afro engineer their >> way >> around that safety system because they do. Nitrous Oxide is in a BLUE >> tank, >> Nitrogen is in a YELLOW tank, and Compressed air is in a BLACK tank when >> sold commercially. >> So if you see some boozo coming toward your plane with a green or blue >> tank >> in his hand tell him thanks but no thanks. O2 in a GREEN bottle is for >> breathing not smoking! Tell the FBO operator that he needs to have the >> line >> boy with the blue tank in his hand drug tested. >> Doc >> >> >>> [Original Message] >>> From: Jill Gernetzke <jill@m-14p.com> >>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >>> Date: 3/31/2007 9:00:41 AM >>> Subject: Yak-List: Oxygen >>> >>> >>> Group, >>> >>> We just had a Moose customer who was putting his 40 hours of fly-off >>> time on the airplane. The pressure relief valve took a dump and >>> relieved all of the air. (This is a unit supplied by Kimballs to >>> homebuiders and not Russian.) >>> He landed at a small strip. Rather than attempting to hand prop the >>> airplane, he asked if they had a bottle of compressed air. Yes, they >>> did! Out they come with a green bottle. Again, he is a bit reluctant >>> and asks if they are sure it is not oxygen. Again, they tell him it >>> is compressed air. He started the airplane and there was a bang. He >>> had the airplane started and may not have known what had happened at >>> that point. After returning to his home base it was discovered that >>> the starter hose blew apart, the filter blew through and the air >>> distributor stripped three of its studs out of the mating body plus a >>> host of internal damage. >>> >>> Last month, I received a call from a ferry pilot. He had landed at an >>> airport and couldn't get the airplane started. The local FBO had >>> serviced the air system. He called to verify start procedures. When I >>> asked him what they had used, he said compressed air. I went further >>> and asked if he was sure it wasn't oxygen that they had used. No, it >>> was compressed air. I then asked what color the bottle was. Green. I >>> urged him to purge the air system of the oxygen before he did anything >>> else. Disaster avoided. >>> >>> A Pitts Model 12 guy wasn't so lucky last summer when he was ferrying >>> his airplane and landed in Phoenix. He had similar results as the >>> Moose guy, but had to fix the airplane in 112 degree heat. >>> >>> My question to the group is, will oxygen ever be in any other color >>> bottle, except green? I really don't think so, but I would like to >>> know conclusively. >>> >>> Years ago, when I worked at Kay Larkin in Palatka, Florida there was a >>> line guy with little aviation experience who fueled a DC-3 with jet >>> fuel because it was a big airplane and according to his logic, all big >>> airplanes used jet fuel. This DC-3 was going to take a load of >>> skydivers up. The pilot noticed the jet fuel smell and queried the >>> line guy. The fuel was immediately drained. Another disaster avoided. >>> >>> As PIC, we are responsible to make sure these things do not happen. To >>> me, the worst thing is to not know what we don't know. I am always >>> learning, preferably not the hard way! >>> >>> >>> I will post a short article with photos on oxygen and the air system on >>> our website next week. >>> >>> Jill >>> M-14P, Incorporated >>> 4905 Flightline Drive >>> Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417 >>> (928)-681-4400 >>> Fax(928)681-4404 >>> www.m-14p.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 01:22:39 PM PST US
    From: "Russ aka Duncan" <Duncan1574@execpc.com>
    Subject: Sport Aviation april 2007
    Nice write-up Tim Gagnon! Sir Duncan Russell Comyn Noble Knight of IronWolf Bishop of Strathclyde Defender of Scotland




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