Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/11/07


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 01:47 AM - Carb Fire (Jay McIntyre)
     2. 05:05 AM - Re: Carb Fire (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 06:48 AM - Re: Parachutes (CJcanuck)
     4. 07:31 AM - Re: Parachutes (Stephen Fox)
     5. 07:38 AM - ARS VI chute packer? (KingCJ6@aol.com)
     6. 08:51 AM - 52W POH needed (Craig Schneider)
     7. 09:20 AM - Re: 52W POH needed (Roger Kemp)
     8. 10:03 AM - Re: 52W POH needed (Scooter)
     9. 10:53 AM - Re: Re: 52W POH needed (Craig Schneider)
    10. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: 52W POH needed (Roger Kemp)
    11. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: 52W POH needed (Roger Kemp)
    12. 11:24 AM - Re: 52W POH needed (Scooter)
    13. 11:26 AM - Re: Re: 52W POH needed (A. Dennis Savarese)
    14. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: 52W POH needed (A. Dennis Savarese)
    15. 12:13 PM - Re: Re: 52W POH needed (Roger Kemp)
    16. 01:27 PM - Dynon (F16ftrplt@aol.com)
    17. 01:44 PM - Re: 52W POH needed (Stephen Fox)
    18. 02:10 PM - Re: Dynon (Roger Kemp)
    19. 02:42 PM - Re: 52W POH needed (Mark Davis)
    20. 03:10 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve????  (John Nafziger)
    21. 03:16 PM - Re: Dynon (f16ftrplt@aol.com)
    22. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: Re: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve????  (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:47:28 AM PST US
    From: "Jay McIntyre" <cjaviator@gmail.com>
    Subject: Carb Fire
    Hi all... A friend experienced a bad carb fire the other day in a Yak-52 (resulting from finger trouble unfortunately). He has cooked some oil and fuel lines plus associated electrical wiring in the lower area of the engine. In addition, the engine mount has been singed to some degree (probably minor)... Can anyone give me any advice on what else should be checked...? e.g. carb diaphrams etc etc. regards, Jay McIntyre New Zealand


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    Time: 05:05:27 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Carb Fire
    Other things that come to mind and should be inspected, repaired, overhauled or replaced are: engine mount rubbers; carburetor (recommend an overhaul); fuel pump should be disassembled and an overhaul kit installed (it has a rubber diaphragm); intake gland nut rubber seals; wiring harness wires; leather covered baffling to cowling seals; exhaust clamps if they are the original steel clamps; tach-generator; compressor filter. If I think of anything else, I'll post it. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay McIntyre To: yak list Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:45 AM Subject: Yak-List: Carb Fire Hi all... A friend experienced a bad carb fire the other day in a Yak-52 (resulting from finger trouble unfortunately). He has cooked some oil and fuel lines plus associated electrical wiring in the lower area of the engine. In addition, the engine mount has been singed to some degree (probably minor)... Can anyone give me any advice on what else should be checked...? e.g. carb diaphrams etc etc. regards, Jay McIntyre New Zealand


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    Time: 06:48:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parachutes
    From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>
    Thanks Dennis. I've contacted you offllist. Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106246#106246


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    Time: 07:31:39 AM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Parachutes
    This is not an inexpensive answer to your question, but maybe the most comfortable one. Take a look at Butler Parachutes. They make a chute designed for either the Yak or Cj seat pan. I can tell you from first hand knowledge the most comfortable chute I have ever sat on. http://www.butlerparachutes.com/ Steve On Apr 10, 2007, at 9:46 PM, CJcanuck wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm looking to do some Aerobatic flying with my bird and I was > hoping for some advice on parachutes. > > First off, parachutes are not legally required in Canada. That > being said, if a simple and affordable tool for increasing personal > safety is available then I'm all for it. > > I've looked at Softie's and Nationals. My only preference is > towards the seatpack style as I've flown with a slim backpack style > (skydiver flying years ago) and never really liked how they rode up. > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106163#106163 > > Stephen Fox Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer thinkx Intellectual Capital Think Exponentially http://www.thinkxic.com emai: steve.fox@thinkxic.com Direct: 603.924.8660 Cell: 603.547.0448 SKYPE:jstephenfox


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    Time: 07:38:21 AM PST US
    From: KingCJ6@aol.com
    Subject: ARS VI chute packer?
    Anyone know if there will be a chute packer available at ARS VI? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 08:51:48 AM PST US
    Subject: 52W POH needed
    From: "Craig Schneider" <craig@ustek.com>
    Does anyone have a POH for a 52W? When I bought the plane in January, it did not have one. I don't wanna get ramp checked this summer and not have one in the plane. A PDF of a Word document file would be fine, I can print and bind it here. I already have found a regular 52 and a 52TW POH but neither are correct for the 52W. I'd like to have the right one, just in case.... Get in contact with me at craig@ustek.com Thanks in advance! Craig Schneider N90GC 1999 YAK 52W serial 9912205


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    Time: 09:20:03 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: 52W POH needed
    Talk to Ray Gage. He has a 52 W also. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Schneider Sent: 4/11/2007 11:03:53 AM Subject: Yak-List: 52W POH needed Does anyone have a POH for a 52W? When I bought the plane in January, it did not have one. I don't wanna get ramp checked this summer and not have one in the plane. A PDF of a Word document file would be fine, I can print and bind it here. I already have found a regular 52 and a 52TW POH but neither are correct for the 52W. I'd like to have the right one, just in case.... Get in contact with me at craig@ustek.com Thanks in advance! Craig Schneider N90GC 1999 YAK 52W serial 9912205


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    Time: 10:03:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe you need a POH for an experimental aircraft. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106303#106303


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    Time: 10:53:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    From: "Craig Schneider" <craig@ustek.com>
    >From what I have read and been told by the EAA, you need everything just like any other plane would need. Here's a quick reference: http://exp-aircraft.com/library/check.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe you need a POH for an experimental aircraft. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106303#106303


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    Time: 11:07:55 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    You need the following in the A/C at all times: POH Program Letter Operation Limitations Registration Map defining your 300 nm operation limits from you home base. Did I miss anything? Doc > [Original Message] > From: Craig Schneider <craig@ustek.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 4/11/2007 1:00:22 PM > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > > > >From what I have read and been told by the EAA, you need everything just > like any other plane would need. > > Here's a quick reference: http://exp-aircraft.com/library/check.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:03 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > > > Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe you need a POH for an > experimental aircraft. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106303#106303 > >


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    Time: 11:16:51 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    Scooter, I had to have one for mine. The DAR asked for it right off the bat when he started to do my AW inspection. Dennis Savarese if the RPA FAA liaison maybe he can shed more light on this. I know for my spam can, I have to have the POH in the aircraft and readily accessible to the pilot. Doc > [Original Message] > From: Scooter <yakk52@verizon.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 4/11/2007 12:15:42 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > > > Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe you need a POH for an experimental aircraft. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106303#106303 > >


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    Time: 11:24:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Here's what the EAA has said (ARROW - see below) - Note the "FAA Approved" terminology. Technically if there is no approved POH I could write one up on the back of an envelope and keep it in the aircraft. Who's to say it isn't the real deal? A - Airworthiness Certificate. In the case of an experimental aircraft, this requirement includes not only the certificate itself, but also the operating limitations document that was issued along with (and as a part of) the airworthiness certificate. R - Registration. This refers to the FAA registration card (FAA Form 8050-3). R - Radio Station License. This is no longer required for domestic U.S. operations. However, if you plan to fly across international borders, you must have one. O - Operating Limitations. This includes not only an FAA approved Pilot Operating Handbook (if there is one for your aircraft) but also any other required documents, markings, and/or placards specified in the aircraft's type certificate. In the case of an experimental aircraft, this is another reference to the operating limitations document that was issued along with the airworthiness certificate, along with any placards or markings required by the FARs. W - Weight and Balance. A copy of the most current weight and balance info, including empty weight center of gravity (CG), fore and aft CG limits, and arms for all loading points (seats, fuel, baggage, etc.). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106319#106319


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    Time: 11:26:21 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    Yes, Airworthiness Certificate. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > > You need the following in the A/C at all times: > POH > Program Letter > Operation Limitations > Registration > Map defining your 300 nm operation limits from you home base. > > Did I miss anything? > Doc > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Craig Schneider <craig@ustek.com> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >> Date: 4/11/2007 1:00:22 PM >> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed >> >> >> >From what I have read and been told by the EAA, you need everything just >> like any other plane would need. >> >> Here's a quick reference: http://exp-aircraft.com/library/check.html >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:03 PM >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed >> >> >> Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe you need a POH for an >> experimental aircraft. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106303#106303 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 12:09:49 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    Scooter, All is correct. In addition though, the FAA requires us to carry a copy of our annual program letter and any updates made to it during the calendar year. In other words, "don't leave home without it." Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > > Here's what the EAA has said (ARROW - see below) - Note the "FAA Approved" > terminology. Technically if there is no approved POH I could write one up > on the back of an envelope and keep it in the aircraft. Who's to say it > isn't the real deal? > > > A - Airworthiness Certificate. In the case of an experimental aircraft, > this requirement includes not only the certificate itself, but also the > operating limitations document that was issued along with (and as a part > of) the airworthiness certificate. > > R - Registration. This refers to the FAA registration card (FAA Form > 8050-3). > > R - Radio Station License. This is no longer required for domestic U.S. > operations. However, if you plan to fly across international borders, you > must have one. > > O - Operating Limitations. This includes not only an FAA approved Pilot > Operating Handbook (if there is one for your aircraft) but also any other > required documents, markings, and/or placards specified in the aircraft's > type certificate. In the case of an experimental aircraft, this is another > reference to the operating limitations document that was issued along with > the airworthiness certificate, along with any placards or markings > required by the FARs. > > W - Weight and Balance. A copy of the most current weight and balance > info, including empty weight center of gravity (CG), fore and aft CG > limits, and arms for all loading points (seats, fuel, baggage, etc.). > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106319#106319 > > >


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    Time: 12:13:26 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    I knew I was missing something! Also FAA Advisor Circular AC 90-89A ameture built aircraft and ultralight flight testing handbook will tell you everything you should have documented for your experimental aircraft or ultralight. FIWC Doc > [Original Message] > From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: 4/11/2007 1:31:41 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> > > Yes, Airworthiness Certificate. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:07 PM > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > > > > > > You need the following in the A/C at all times: > > POH > > Program Letter > > Operation Limitations > > Registration > > Map defining your 300 nm operation limits from you home base. > > > > Did I miss anything? > > Doc > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Craig Schneider <craig@ustek.com> > >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > >> Date: 4/11/2007 1:00:22 PM > >> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > >> > >> > >> >From what I have read and been told by the EAA, you need everything just > >> like any other plane would need. > >> > >> Here's a quick reference: http://exp-aircraft.com/library/check.html > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scooter > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:03 PM > >> To: yak-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Yak-List: Re: 52W POH needed > >> > >> > >> Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe you need a POH for an > >> experimental aircraft. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106303#106303 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:27:54 PM PST US
    From: F16ftrplt@aol.com
    Subject: Dynon
    I am thinking about a Dynon for my Nanchang. Last year I saw a Chang with D-10A (the small one) for both front and rear cockpit. From what I understand the D-10A is a stand alone unit but I wonder if the engine can cause electro magnetic interference. Has anyone installed the larger Dynon, the D-100 in a Nanchang? Any advise from the group would be greatly appreciated. Med ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 01:44:14 PM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    You can download the 52 POH from the RPA web site under Pubs/ training. On Apr 11, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Craig Schneider wrote: > Does anyone have a POH for a 52W? When I bought the plane in > January, it did not have one. I don't wanna get ramp checked this > summer and not have one in the plane. A PDF of a Word document > file would be fine, I can print and bind it here. > > I already have found a regular 52 and a 52TW POH but neither are > correct for the 52W. I'd like to have the right one, just in > case.... > > Get in contact with me at craig@ustek.com Thanks in advance! > > Craig Schneider > N90GC 1999 YAK 52W serial 9912205 > > Stephen Fox Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer thinkx Intellectual Capital Think Exponentially http://www.thinkxic.com emai: steve.fox@thinkxic.com Direct: 603.924.8660 Cell: 603.547.0448 SKYPE:jstephenfox


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    Time: 02:10:52 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Dynon
    Med, I have a D10 in my 50. Works fine. You probably will need to install the remote gyro in the tail though. I do not get an accurate mag heading using the internal panel mounted unit due to interference. Everything else works fine. Expecially since you are used to ladder from the HUD! One downside is that having the steam gauge AS just under the left side of the glare sheild on the 50 makes it easier to check approach speeds out of the corner of your eye than having to look back to the center of screen and on the right of that screen. That's a tail dragger thing though! How ya been? chec 6 Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 4/11/2007 3:39:34 PM Subject: Yak-List: Dynon I am thinking about a Dynon for my Nanchang. Last year I saw a Chang with D-10A (the small one) for both front and rear cockpit. From what I understand the D-10A is a stand alone unit but I wonder if the engine can cause electro magnetic interference. Has anyone installed the larger Dynon, the D-100 in a Nanchang? Any advise from the group would be greatly appreciated. Med See what's free at AOL.com.


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    Time: 02:42:01 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Davis" <mark@pld.com>
    Subject: Re: 52W POH needed
    If you want a small handbook size to carry in the YAK you can find one at http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/52booklet.doc Just downloaded it. Had to feed the printer one page at a time to get copied on both sides. Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Fox To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: 52W POH needed You can download the 52 POH from the RPA web site under Pubs/ training. On Apr 11, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Craig Schneider wrote: Does anyone have a POH for a 52W? When I bought the plane in January, it did not have one. I don't wanna get ramp checked this summer and not have one in the plane. A PDF of a Word document file would be fine, I can print and bind it here. I already have found a regular 52 and a 52TW POH but neither are correct for the 52W. I'd like to have the right one, just in case.... Get in contact with me at craig@ustek.com Thanks in advance! Craig Schneider N90GC 1999 YAK 52W serial 9912205 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Stephen Fox Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer thinkx Intellectual Capital Think Exponentially http://www.thinkxic.com emai: steve.fox@thinkxic.com Direct: 603.924.8660 Cell: 603.547.0448 SKYPE:jstephenfox


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    Time: 03:10:05 PM PST US
    From: John Nafziger <jsnafziger@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE: RE: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve????
    Doc, Sorry for the tardy response. The part-number for the relief valve is: 4M4F-RH4A-VT-SS-K3-C3 ($152.31). This is from the Parker Control and Automation group. The seals are flourocarbon rubber with PTFE backup rings and the 750-1500 psi spring kit (set to 750 psi). Note, that I'm running a Yak-55m, which wasn't built with a compressor hooked up. The original owner simply had a pilot controled ball valve and a check valve. Once you started, you dumped the valve leaving an empty tank. If you forgot, the pressure would rise until a line blew. My current set-up is an attempt to fix the above. >From compressor to tank: - AN-5 Banjo fitting from the compressor (gesoco, $40) - Coalescing filter with a drain (Parker Finite filter, S1R-6C04-023, $221.60), closest I could come to the russian snot valve. - Pressure relief valve: 4M4F-RH4A-VT-SS-K3-C3 - Pilot controled dump valve: Parker ball valve - 4F-C4L-1-SS Parker check valve ($48) - Air Tank I haven't installed the filter, so no promises on the longevity of any of the above. It's still a work in progress, I'm sure that will need refinements. The kimballs also have a nice set up for the Model 12 and have parts available. The original russian snot valve, filter, pressure valve are all available at www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk, but I couldn't make it past the metric/AN nightmare. Now if I could only get the M9-35 mags timed, I'd be all set! -John Subject: RE: RE: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve???? From: Roger Kemp (viperdoc@mindspring.com) John, Do you remember your part #'s.4Z CPI Compression port, RH4A NE (neoprene Rubber BN nitrile Rubber ect, and did you get the 4000-5000 psi spring kit or the 5000-6000 spring kit? What fittings (thread type) did you use to anastamose the US fittings to the metric? For those interested the website address for Parker Instruments is as follows: www.parker.com/icd/cat/english/4131-RH.pdf Doc http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091


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    Time: 03:16:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dynon
    From: f16ftrplt@aol.com
    Doc, Thanks for the info. I am thinking of either the D-10 or the larger D-100 if I can do it within the existing available panel real estate. All was well till this last weekend when I tripped on a dogie gate and fell flat on my side (Hard wood floor, keys in pocket). Floor OK, Keys not much damage but I managed to get a fracture (non displacement) of my hip bone. I have been immovable since Sunday and not enjoying it at all. I am hoping that I can be mobile by Sun N Fun. I felt so stupid. Are you going to SNF? Med -----Original Message----- From: viperdoc@mindspring.com Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 5:10 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Dynon Med, I have a D10 in my 50. Works fine. You probably will need to install the remote gyro in the tail though. I do not get an accurate mag heading using the internal panel mounted unit due to interference. Everything else works fine. Expecially since you are used to ladder from the HUD! One downside is that having the steam gauge AS just under the left side of the glare sheild on the 50 makes it easier to check approach speeds out of the corner of your eye than having to look back to the center of screen and on the right of that screen. That's a tail dragger thing though! How ya been? chec 6 Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 4/11/2007 3:39:34 PM Subject: Yak-List: Dynon I am thinking about a Dynon for my Nanchang. Last year I saw a Chang with D-10A (the small one) for both front and rear cockpit. From what I understand the D-10A is a stand alone unit but I wonder if the engine can cause electro magnetic interference. Has anyone installed the larger Dynon, the D-100 in a Nanchang? Any advise from the group would be greatly appreciated. Med See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 03:54:45 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: RE: RE: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve????
    John, Sierra Hotel..Thanks a bunch! I will need to use a higher pressure spring than yours. I went on their site and found most of what you had said. The AN conversion fittings I had forgotten that George had. Thanks again. Doc > [Original Message] > From: John Nafziger <jsnafziger@yahoo.com> > To: <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > Date: 4/11/2007 5:16:44 PM > Subject: Yak-List: RE: RE: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve???? > > > Doc, > Sorry for the tardy response. > > The part-number for the relief valve is: 4M4F-RH4A-VT-SS-K3-C3 > ($152.31). This is from the Parker Control and Automation group. The > seals are flourocarbon rubber with PTFE backup rings and the 750-1500 > psi spring kit (set to 750 psi). > > Note, that I'm running a Yak-55m, which wasn't built with a compressor > hooked up. The original owner simply had a pilot controled ball valve > and a check valve. Once you started, you dumped the valve leaving an > empty tank. If you forgot, the pressure would rise until a line blew. > My current set-up is an attempt to fix the above. > > >From compressor to tank: > - AN-5 Banjo fitting from the compressor (gesoco, $40) > - Coalescing filter with a drain (Parker Finite filter, S1R-6C04-023, > $221.60), closest I could come to the russian snot valve. > - Pressure relief valve: 4M4F-RH4A-VT-SS-K3-C3 > - Pilot controled dump valve: Parker ball valve > - 4F-C4L-1-SS Parker check valve ($48) > - Air Tank > > I haven't installed the filter, so no promises on the longevity of any > of the above. It's still a work in progress, I'm sure that will need > refinements. The kimballs also have a nice set up for the Model 12 and > have parts available. The original russian snot valve, filter, > pressure valve are all available at www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk, but I > couldn't make it past the metric/AN nightmare. > > Now if I could only get the M9-35 mags timed, I'd be all set! > > -John > > > Subject: RE: RE: Yak 52 Pressure relief valve???? > From: Roger Kemp (viperdoc@mindspring.com) > Date: Fri Apr 06 - 8:38 PM > > John, > Do you remember your part #'s.4Z CPI Compression port, RH4A NE > (neoprene > Rubber BN nitrile Rubber ect, and did you get the 4000-5000 psi spring > kit > or the 5000-6000 spring kit? > What fittings (thread type) did you use to anastamose the US fittings > to > the metric? > For those interested the website address for Parker Instruments is as > follows: > www.parker.com/icd/cat/english/4131-RH.pdf > Doc > > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > >




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