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1. 05:17 AM - Fuel Venting (captaindonhopkin@aol.com)
2. 05:37 AM - Re: Fuel Venting (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Fuel Venting (Jim)
4. 10:21 AM - (Stan French)
5. 12:36 PM - fuel venting (captaindonhopkin@aol.com)
6. 01:08 PM - Re: (Hans Oortman 1)
7. 01:54 PM - Re: (Stan French)
8. 02:33 PM - Re: (A. Dennis Savarese)
9. 02:36 PM - Re: (Roger Baker)
10. 03:35 PM - Re: (Stephen Fox)
11. 05:28 PM - Bad news - Blue Angel lost (KingCJ6@aol.com)
12. 08:38 PM - Re: Bad news - Blue Angel lost (Tim Gagnon)
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I'm new to this blog site and don't know if this has been discussed before. I
have a 1980 Yak 52 that will vent fuel, usually from the port wing, unless I leave
cracked open the gas cap. This will happen out on the ramp or inside a hanger.
It will dump a couple of gallons or more. Has anyone engineered a fix
for this? Thanks
Hoppy
Captain Don Hopkin
N6868Y
captaindonhopkin@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Venting |
Don,
This is a common problem for all pre-1989 Yak 52's with a single vent
line, including mine. Opening up the fuel caps is typically the only
way to relieve the pressure in the vent line. Another way to prevent
this from happening is not to fill your fuel tanks until you are ready
to fly. Most of the time if you have less than 30-35 or so liters in
each tank, the fuel will not vent overboard with the fuel caps locked
down.
The only real solution is to redesign the vent lines from the fuel tanks
to match the 1989 and later fuel vent system, which has an individual
vent line for each fuel tank. This is not an easy task, but it
certainly is doable. Attached is an English translated original, early
models, fuel system drawing.
BTW, for the folks on the Yak list, Don's Yak 52 is a very rare flush
riveted Yak 52. Yes, it came from the factory that way.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: captaindonhopkin@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:17 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel Venting
I'm new to this blog site and don't know if this has been discussed
before. I have a 1980 Yak 52 that will vent fuel, usually from the port
wing, unless I leave cracked open the gas cap. This will happen out on
the ramp or inside a hanger. It will dump a couple of gallons or more.
Has anyone engineered a fix for this? Thanks
Hoppy
Captain Don Hopkin
N6868Y
captaindonhopkin@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Venting |
My Yak is Flush Rivited also.
Jim Selby
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel Venting
Don,
This is a common problem for all pre-1989 Yak 52's with a single vent
line, including mine. Opening up the fuel caps is typically the only
way to relieve the pressure in the vent line. Another way to prevent
this from happening is not to fill your fuel tanks until you are ready
to fly. Most of the time if you have less than 30-35 or so liters in
each tank, the fuel will not vent overboard with the fuel caps locked
down.
The only real solution is to redesign the vent lines from the fuel
tanks to match the 1989 and later fuel vent system, which has an
individual vent line for each fuel tank. This is not an easy task, but
it certainly is doable. Attached is an English translated original,
early models, fuel system drawing.
BTW, for the folks on the Yak list, Don's Yak 52 is a very rare flush
riveted Yak 52. Yes, it came from the factory that way.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: captaindonhopkin@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:17 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel Venting
I'm new to this blog site and don't know if this has been discussed
before. I have a 1980 Yak 52 that will vent fuel, usually from the port
wing, unless I leave cracked open the gas cap. This will happen out on
the ramp or inside a hanger. It will dump a couple of gallons or more.
Has anyone engineered a fix for this? Thanks
Hoppy
Captain Don Hopkin
N6868Y
captaindonhopkin@aol.com
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Anyone have knowledge of where I can obtain an FOD Cover or preventer?
Contact off list stanfrench@sbcglobal.net
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Dennis,
Thanks again for the quick reponse, as usual.
Hoppy
Captain Don Hopkin
N6868Y
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Stan,
Contact Dennis Savarese. He can provide with one.
We have it installed in our Yak52 as well.
Hans O.
Dutch Yak Pilot
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Stan French
Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:20
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Yak-List:
Anyone have knowledge of where I can obtain an FOD Cover or preventer?
Contact off list stanfrench@sbcglobal.net
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Hans:
Thanks for the heads up for Dennis...Stan
Stan French
President Sports Prescriptions Inc
Fax 916 244 0991
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From: Hans Oortman 1
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List:
Stan,
Contact Dennis Savarese. He can provide with one.
We have it installed in our Yak52 as well.
Hans O.
Dutch Yak Pilot
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Stan French
Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:20
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Yak-List:
Anyone have knowledge of where I can obtain an FOD Cover or preventer?
Contact off list stanfrench@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
I no longer have the FOD covers manufactured.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Hans Oortman 1
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List:
Stan,
Contact Dennis Savarese. He can provide with one.
We have it installed in our Yak52 as well.
Hans O.
Dutch Yak Pilot
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Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Stan French
Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:20
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Yak-List:
Anyone have knowledge of where I can obtain an FOD Cover or preventer?
Contact off list stanfrench@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
Talk to Vladimir Yastremski. He usually has them...or can have them
made.
Roger___________________________________________________________________
On Apr 21, 2007, at 2:25 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> I no longer have the FOD covers manufactured.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hans Oortman 1
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List:
>
> Stan,
>
>
> Contact Dennis Savarese. He can provide with one.
>
> We have it installed in our Yak52 as well.
>
>
> Hans O.
>
> Dutch Yak Pilot
>
>
> Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-
> server@matronics.com] Namens Stan French
> Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:20
> Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
> Onderwerp: Yak-List:
>
>
> Anyone have knowledge of where I can obtain an FOD Cover or
> preventer? Contact off list stanfrench@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhref="http://
> forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
You can also try the Coy's at Gesoco: 1-802-868-5633 ask for Cliff or
email him: Cliff@gesoco.com
On Apr 21, 2007, at 5:25 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> I no longer have the FOD covers manufactured.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hans Oortman 1
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List:
>
> Stan,
>
>
> Contact Dennis Savarese. He can provide with one.
>
> We have it installed in our Yak52 as well.
>
>
> Hans O.
>
> Dutch Yak Pilot
>
>
> Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-
> server@matronics.com] Namens Stan French
> Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:20
> Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
> Onderwerp: Yak-List:
>
>
> Anyone have knowledge of where I can obtain an FOD Cover or
> preventer? Contact off list stanfrench@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhref="http://
> forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Bad news - Blue Angel lost |
Blue Angels jet crashes during air show, killing aviator
Story Highlights
=A2 NEW: Beaufort County coroner's office confirms pilot killed
=A2 Crash occurred a mile from Marine Corps air station, according to
witness
=A2 The show was taking place near Beaufort, South Carolina
(CNN) -- A jet flying in formation with the U.S. Navy Blue Angels precision
flying team crashed into a Beaufort, South Carolina, neighborhood, causing
an
"enormous fireball" during an air show, authorities said.
The Navy aviator was killed, Beaufort County Coroner Curt Copeland said. Th
e
F/A-18's pilot is the only known fatality.
Fred Yelinek told CNN he saw the crash occur about a mile from Marine Corps
Air Station Beaufort, which was holding the two-day show. He said the jet
came down about 100 yards from him with an "earth-shattering rumble."
Yelinek said the jet struck a stand of pine trees, and pieces of the plane
hit homes, but he didn't see any catch fire. The pieces were "as big as a h
and
but no larger," he said.
The Associated Press described the crash site as a neighborhood of small
houses and trailers.
Photos from the site showed a street littered with debris, some of it
resembling blown-out tires, and nearby trees on fire with smoke trailing aw
ay.
There were no large pieces of debris.
Pieces of a tree and the plane crashed into the home of a neighbor, Yelinek
said, but she was uninjured. Pieces also hit other houses and smashed car
windshields, he said.
"Most people were very shaken but unhurt," the witness said.
"I was working on a pump in the yard across the street from the initial
impact, and I heard the Blue Angeles go over ... in a full, tight formation
,"
Yelinek said.
"And then, four or five minutes later, I hear them coming again, expecting
to see pretty much the same thing. But I didn't hear any strange noises. An
d
then it was the crashing sound of pieces of the airplane coming through the
trees in the yard across the street."
"And then a huge fireball, maybe 200, 300 yards further on down. The debris
started from the first impact with a pine tree, which was maybe 100 yards
from my location."
"Part of the tree and the debris went through a house in that yard, then th
e
main body of the airplane continued on about 300 more yards and hit about
one city block further down at the intersection of Shanklin and Pine Grove
roads.
"There's a lot of houses on all four corners of that intersection. And ther
e
was a lot of fire at that intersection, and continuing thereafter."
Another witness, Gerald Popp, said the six jets had been flying for about
five minutes before one of them turned south, toward the Broad River.
"I saw him go down lower than the trees, and next I saw a big black cloud o
f
smoke," said Popp, who also lives in Beaufort.
Pam and Bill Edwards said they were watching the air show from the media
stand when they realized something was terribly wrong.
"It was right at the end of the air show ... we counted four planes landing
,
and there was one circling in that smoky area right over the crash site,"
Bill Edwards said. "I looked around the sky, and there was nothing else the
re.
Then we saw the emergency helicopter go up, and we automatically assumed th
e
worst at that point."
Justin Cooke, an off-duty air traffic controller at the base, told CNN that
some of the runways used in the air show are near military base housing,
which gets constant flyovers from the base's jets. But he said he didn't th
ink
the jet crashed into the base housing area.
"From my understanding, northeast of base housing is a residential area,"
Cooke said.
Although he was unable to confirm the jet had struck there, he said "one of
my Marines said the power was out temporarily, and stuff had knocked off
their walls from the impact" of the crash.
"The base is on lockdown," Cooke said.
While the cause of the crash is unknown, he mentioned that birds pose a
frequent problem to jets flying in the area, and can cause a crash.
"On an F-18, you have two motors, and if they take [a bird] in the engine,
it could cause engine failure and shut that down," he said. He said the pla
ne
is capable of flying in excess of 450 mph.
The aerobatic maneuvers were to be repeated Sunday as part of the Low
Country Blues Festival. The show also featured other aerial demonstration t
eams and
civilian and military aircraft displays.
CNN meteorologists said the weather in Beaufort, which is near Savannah, wa
s
clear.
The last crash involving the Blue Angels was in 1999 in south Georgia. Two
aviators were killed when their F/A-18 jet crashed while trying to land dur
ing
a training flight.
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| Subject: | Re: Bad news - Blue Angel lost |
We were heading to Jacksonville on Thursday morning and heard this guy check in.
He sounded really happy and was proud to say " Jax center, Blue Angel Six, an
F-18 Hornet, checking in climbing to FL250."
Tough news....
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