---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/28/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:09 AM - Re: YAK-50 Prop Question (Jan Mevis) 2. 02:21 AM - Re: 2 cents on uncontrolled fields (Ira Saligman) 3. 05:36 AM - Aerostar Performances (Craig Payne) 4. 07:59 AM - Re: YAK-50 Prop Question (napeone) 5. 09:17 AM - Parts for sale (Joe Howse) 6. 01:48 PM - SL-30 Installation (shinden33) 7. 03:17 PM - L29 Maintenance (Ernie) 8. 03:30 PM - Re: becker radios (Ernie) 9. 05:00 PM - Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets (David McGirt) 10. 05:54 PM - Re: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets (A. Dennis Savarese) 11. 06:20 PM - Re: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets (David McGirt) 12. 06:22 PM - Re: SNF Near Misses (Scorch) 13. 06:50 PM - Re: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets (A. Dennis Savarese) 14. 10:21 PM - SL-30 Installation (shinden33) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:53 AM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: Yak-List: YAK-50 Prop Question Mark, I've ordered an MTV-9-260 with the Russian K-flange that will be mounted end of May (at the factory in Straubing, Gemany). A 260 is perfectly possible on a Yak 50. On the 52 it's rather the 250 to be installed. I don't consider the mounting myself since I don't have the equipment nor the experience for the dynamic balancing. Richard Goode is very knowledgeable about these props. Have a glance at his website. Jan Mevis YK50 RA2005K _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot Sent: zaterdag 28 april 2007 1:12 Subject: Yak-List: YAK-50 Prop Question Looking for some feedback from YAK-50 owners that are lucky enough to be running 3 bladed props. Except for one Hoffman, most of the folks I have talked to are running MT's. What I need to know is whether you are running a 250 or a 260 ? Is the 260 so long that wheel landings are a threat to the blades or is there plenty of room? All comments welcome. Mark Bitterlich mark.bitterlich@navy.mil Work markbitterlich@earthlink.net Home yakplt@yahoo.com Hanger ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:55 AM PST US From: "Ira Saligman" Subject: Re: Yak-List: 2 cents on uncontrolled fields It is great to see everyone with an opinion and the real answer lies somewhere in the safe balance of them all. Is anyone able to to go through all the near miss notes and create an article, for the newsletter and possibly leading to a "best practices" or further YAK Standardization, form manual etc. . If we had a best practices, or standardized way of operating in uncontrolled fields, published, copyable onto an 81/2 x 11 sheet of paper for dissemination at or prior to fly ins etc. it may give the non-formation pilots who have an interest something to learn about and increase awareness of our aircraft in that world. All of the effort going into this and some of the other topics is lost after the topic dies down. Does anyone have the time to catalog it. Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:47 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Yak-List: Aerostar Performances While most folks were long gone from Sun n Fun by Sunday, they missed Sunday/Monday performances by the Aerostars, a 3-ship Yak 52TW team based in Northern IL. Good performances with some original moves. It seemed a little strange to hear only the deep rumble of the engines rather than screech of prop tips going sonic. I was used to lots of prop noise from the T-6's of AeroShell and 450 stearmans of the Red Barons so it was an interesting contrast. BTW, the 52TW makes a fine plane to watch as a spectator. Not too small, good looking in the air, just about the right speed to keep the performance in close to the crowd. Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:30 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: YAK-50 Prop Question From: "napeone" Mark, I currently have a MT-260 prop on my Yak50. So far so good. I really like the looks of the 260, with its added length over the Hoffman 250 that was formerly on the airplane. The performance is definitely superior to both the Hoffman and the two blade. 4500 feet/min. vs the 3500 of the two blade. I believe that the 260 has a 500 lb. static thrust advantage over the two blade and a 250 lb. thrust advantage over the Hoffman 250. Speeds are about the same with any of the props. Let me know if I can help. David Harcourt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109710#109710 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:15 AM PST US From: Joe Howse Subject: Yak-List: Parts for sale CJ6 owners TWO OVERHAULED J9G-1 PROPELLERS, BETTER THAN NEW OLD STOCK. OVERHAULED BY CANADIAN PROP OVERHAUL FACILITY HUB PARTS NTD AND REPLATED WHERE NECESSARY BLADES STRIPPED, INSPECTED AND REPAINTED NEW SEALS ASSEMBLED AND BALANCED. PRICE LESS THAN MY OVERHAUL COST -- 2000.00 US EACH. FACTORY NEW BLADES -- --------------------------600.00 US PER PAIR. CAN SHIP ANY WHERE JOAL HOLDINGS , Joe Howse Contact off line joeh@shaw.ca or phone 250-748-2203 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:58 PM PST US From: "shinden33" Subject: Yak-List: SL-30 Installation All, I just had an SL-30 installed which is breaking squelch on certain frequencies. It may be a myriad of things, including antenna location but I was wondering if anyone knows of any Yak specific gotchas with this installation? Thanks in advance Scott N8252 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:58 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: L29 Maintenance From: "Ernie" Any A&P's out there willing to do an annual on an L-29? I have all tools, manuals, maintenance checklist. I have done the grunt work for the last 7 years on it, but I lost my A&P. Thanks Ernie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109746#109746 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:36 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: becker radios From: "Ernie" I had the 3301 (an older model) Nice radio, works just fine. Ernie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109750#109750 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:31 PM PST US From: "David McGirt" Subject: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets I am looking for at least 2 of these mounts - I am probably not calling them by the right name, but the mount that is attached to the aileron/elevator tube in a standard Yak, that was used to attach bungee cords to in the "trainer" I would like to find two, if you have some, I would love to buy them, contact me directly if you like David McGirt ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:28 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets Oh! You mean the centering spring brackets. They were not bungee cords David. They were actually spring mechanisms. I still have the original brackets in my airplane, but without the centering springs. Mine are not for sale though. You may have some difficulty finding them. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McGirt" Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets > > I am looking for at least 2 of these mounts - I am probably not calling > them > by the right name, but the mount that is attached to the aileron/elevator > tube in a standard Yak, that was used to attach bungee cords to in the > "trainer" > > I would like to find two, if you have some, I would love to buy them, > contact me directly if you like > > David McGirt > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:23 PM PST US From: "David McGirt" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets Centering brackets then.. :) thanks for the clairfication! I am sure there is someone out there that has some they do not need.. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets Oh! You mean the centering spring brackets. They were not bungee cords David. They were actually spring mechanisms. I still have the original brackets in my airplane, but without the centering springs. Mine are not for sale though. You may have some difficulty finding them. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McGirt" Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets > > I am looking for at least 2 of these mounts - I am probably not calling > them > by the right name, but the mount that is attached to the aileron/elevator > tube in a standard Yak, that was used to attach bungee cords to in the > "trainer" > > I would like to find two, if you have some, I would love to buy them, > contact me directly if you like > > David McGirt > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:17 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: SNF Near Misses From: "Scorch" It seems to me that one of the near misses being discussed here (Zephyrhillshas) has less to do with formation flying and more to do with operating at an uncontrolled airfield without being up on the unicom frequency. It is very easy to say that the formation led to this happening but I beg to disagree. The 2 aircraft were off frequency for different reasons, #2, a mistake, and the mooney - who knows, but without the common frequency you've already got a recipe for disaster. If 4 aircraft had entered the circuit in close proximity as singletons (as some are suggesting as a solution), I dare say the same thing could and would have happened. Having said that I am an advocate of making the formation fit the local conditions. So, when you make calls - especially at uncontrolled airfields, you call 'joining deadside' not 'initial' and then 'crosswind' not 'on the break'. And if you have to extend through initial before breaking to allow for other traffic then so be it. Just as is the golden rule with leading formations, you've got to be predictable and I think in the case of 'mixing it up' with other aircraft you have to be predictable to aircraft outside the formation as well. This comes down to letting them know in plain language so they can understand what you are doing. Your formation should not be so inflexible that you cannot allow for other traffic. I know it doesn't look as good but what about splitting to 2 pairs in trail for the circuit entry? - gives all wingmen a bettter chance of seeing what's going on in the circuit, and if you have to do something radical its alot easier as a pair than a 4. There's always, of course, the random factor of some cloth ear doing something really dumb. Sounds like it would be pretty difficult allow for what the Mooney did apart from having your head on a stick, as the guys in question obviously did. My 10c worth Greg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109774#109774 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:36 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets David, I just thought of someone who might still have them and want to sell them. I'll send him an email and see. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McGirt" Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets > > Centering brackets then.. :) thanks for the clairfication! > > I am sure there is someone out there that has some they do not need.. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis > Savarese > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:52 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets > > > > Oh! You mean the centering spring brackets. They were not bungee cords > David. They were actually spring mechanisms. I still have the original > brackets in my airplane, but without the centering springs. Mine are not > for sale though. You may have some difficulty finding them. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David McGirt" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:59 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Wanted - Yak Bungee cord brackets > > >> >> I am looking for at least 2 of these mounts - I am probably not calling >> them >> by the right name, but the mount that is attached to the aileron/elevator >> tube in a standard Yak, that was used to attach bungee cords to in the >> "trainer" >> >> I would like to find two, if you have some, I would love to buy them, >> contact me directly if you like >> >> David McGirt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:58 PM PST US From: "shinden33" Subject: Yak-List: SL-30 Installation Update - squelch problem fixed. There's another issue. Both the SL-30 and the original Russian Radio are installed completely independent of one another. The only place they connect is the headset jack. For some reason, the volume controls on the Russian radio and intercom now working in reverse! The radio still transmits and receives just fine. I do not pretend to be an electronics guy and my avionics installer is scratching his head. Anyone have any ideas what would cause this to happen? Scott N8252 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shinden33 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: Yak-List: SL-30 Installation All, I just had an SL-30 installed which is breaking squelch on certain frequencies. It may be a myriad of things, including antenna location but I was wondering if anyone knows of any Yak specific gotchas with this installation? Thanks in advance Scott N8252 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.