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1. 12:57 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Approaches (kp)
2. 01:42 AM - Re: Re: Aircraft photography (kp)
3. 02:09 AM - Re: Sun N Fun (kp)
4. 06:29 AM - MTW / OSH 2007 (Herb Coussons)
5. 06:59 AM - Re: MTW / OSH 2007 (David McGirt)
6. 07:20 AM - FUEL DISCOUNT - Warbird Fly in 5-12-07 at KMRT Union County Airport Marysville Ohio (Craig Schneider)
7. 07:22 AM - Re: MTW / OSH 2007 (Daniel Fortin)
8. 07:35 AM - Yak wheel covers! (flir47)
9. 07:42 AM - Re: MTW / OSH 2007 (ByronMFox@aol.com)
10. 07:50 AM - Re: MTW / OSH 2007 (David McGirt)
11. 09:28 AM - Re: On behalf of Dragon Flight, thanks for you help this morning (David McGirt)
12. 10:32 AM - YAK 50 smoke systems (Roger Kemp M.D.)
13. 11:34 AM - Re: Yak wheel covers! (A. Dennis Savarese)
14. 11:53 AM - Re: Yak wheel covers! (A. Dennis Savarese)
15. 12:05 PM - Re: Yak wheel covers! (flir47)
16. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Yak wheel covers! (Craig Payne)
17. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: MTW / OSH 2007 (Craig Payne)
18. 05:16 PM - Re: Yak wheel covers! (flir47)
19. 10:41 PM - Re: MTW / OSH 2007 (David McGirt)
20. 10:53 PM - Sun N Fun (Terry Calloway)
21. 10:55 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Approaches (kp)
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Approaches |
Sorry....I can't hear you........ I'm a bit deaf !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Overhead Approaches
>
> " 2. What the heck is a cloth ear? :-) Thank you."
>
>>From the net:
>
> Cloth Ear
>
> Noun: A deaf person; a person who is hard of hearing.
>
> Originates from the northern English county of Lancashire and in
> particular Blackburn during the industrial revolution. Blackburn was home
> to many cotton mills (weaving and spinning)- commonly very noisy places
> that caused deafness due to the noise and a buildup of cotton dust in the
> ear.
>
> Oi - cloth ears... are tha' deaf? I said come here!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110271#110271
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft photography |
I bet you'd have boresighted if it had been a girlie !
Welcome back Ernie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Aircraft photography
>
> I guess I'm dense but being an amature photograper, I looked an looked,
> and saw decent highlights and shadows, basically good exposure, good
> framing, and interesting perspective, but nothing out of the ordinary that
> really stood out. Wasnt untill my wife pointed out the moon :) Damn I hate
> getting old and losing my eyesight..ugh lead where are you?????
>
> Ernie
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110358#110358
>
>
>
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That's a class act !
An unimaginable amount of practice and near biblical trust in your
wingman.
Truly impressive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Calloway
To: Yak List
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Sun N Fun
If you weren't at Sun N Fun, this is what you missed. )P
http://www.airshowbuzz.com/videos/view.php?v=79f201ea
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RED STAR PILOTS !!!
Oshkosh is 2 months away !!
The event is posted on the web site and I am emailing details to the
Yak-list. Spread the news. Whoever does the e-comms may copy and
also put in the news letter.
Oshkosh Airventure starts Monday 7-23 and runs until Sunday 7-29
http://www.airventure.org/
Red Stars will gather at Manitowoc starting the weekend before -
Friday 7-20, Saturday 7-21, Sunday 7-22.
We will base out of the EAA hanger at MTW. They have allowed us to
use it for the last few years.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby will be leading the mass formation practice out
of MTW. The plan is to not have as much activity in MTW after
airventure begins in OSH. I anticipate that a group will stay in MTW
during the week due to hotel availability. They will gather and come
to OSH in the morning and return to MTW after the airshow or in the
afternoons. Lets try to stay together - MTW for the weekend then OSH
by Monday.
During the week we will depart MTW and recover in OSH for the warbird
briefings. then fly in the warbird portion of the airshow. Any Yaks/
CJs based in OSH for the week can gather for EAAs warbird briefing
(new pilots) and the Red Star briefing just northwest of the warbird
tower/building. The larger our numbers grow and the quality formation
work we do will help to get lower altitudes and more regognition for
the airshow.
Some guys will recover at OSH - some will recover at MTW.
RV
IF ANYONE WANTS TO USE THE RV SPOT IN THE WARBIRD AREA LET ME
KNOW!!! I need to know if we wil have a RV here to let Bill Fischer
at EAA know our plans. If you want to bring an RV contact me off
list. FIrst one to commit gets it. The RV needs to be parked there
on Saturday 7-21 at the latest. Water and electricity available.
Sewer dump comes around a couple of times per week. LET ME KNOW ASAP
if you can / want to bring an RV. If you want to rent an RV locally
and have it set up on the site I can arrange. IT BE YOUR COST FOR
THE WEEK. I rented one 2 years ago and last year borrowed one. If
no one brings or rents an RV for the week, I will get a larger and
nicer vendor tent. We can set up a rent-a-tent for the week for
briefings, hang out, etc. I can get a heavier duty vendor type tent
with sidewalls for the site. A tent in the warbird flightline area
again is great to gather, get some shade and a cool drink. Look for
the banners.
Even if you do not plan on flying in the mass formation - come hang out.
AEROBATICS BOX -
The waiver application is into the FAA. The application is the same
as last year - but you never know with the local FSDO. The box will
be over the field at MTW and can be activated with phone call anytime
between 7AM and 9PM local time. Bring your altitude waivers (ACE
card) and have fun!!
SERGEI BORIAK -
Sergei will be here for the week. In the past people have told me
they will fly with him and then not flown during the week. I get him
here and pay his travel based on having at least 6 pilots to fly -
this covers his expenses. This year there will be an event - "SERGEI
BORIAK" on the web site. If you want to fly with Sergei you have to
commit by signing up and the event fee is $100. He will then fly
with you for $150/hour - pay directly to Sergei. If we do not have 6
pilots then I will cancel Sergei. If we have more than 6 I will
refund the extra costs. You only pay the event fee once. Even if
you fly 2 or 3 flights
I already have 2 pilots. We have enough time for more flights with
him this year as he can arrive Friday 7-20 and fly out of MTW. He
will probably stay the whole week in MTW as he may fly in the
afternoon airshows. He will be available thru the week to fly out of
OSH also. It is worth it. I have flown with him several times. You
will have fun and learn more in that hour than you can imagine. He
will suit the flight to your needs - easy beginner stuff like loops
and rolls - to inverted spins, lomchavaks, etc. Some video from 3
years ago.
http://web.mac.com/hscuzz/iWeb/Yak%20Videos/Spin.html
RODGER MODGLIN DINNER.
I am unsure if the memorial dinner for Rodger's scholarship fund will
be an annual event. I contacted Zoe and Ashley and it sounded like
there will not be a dinner this year. Stay tuned.
FBO
Lakeshore Aviation at MTW. They will coordinate fuel and oil with a
tag system as in the past.
Contact info - Curt Drumm - owner 920-682-0043
Of course Basler and Orion on the field at OSH.
HOTELS -
Heritage Inn - 908 Washington Manitowoc, WI 54220 920-682-8271
Ask for RedStar Pilots rate - about 55$
Holiday Inn - 4601 Calumet Manitowoc, WI 54220 866-270-5110
RENTAL CARS -
U-Save Auto - 1015 South 26th St 920-682-8024
Luloffs - 1401 Washington 920-682-0121
Enterprise - 4611 Expo Dr 920-652-9994
OSH INFO
http://www.airventure.org
COST
The only cost is flying with Sergei if you want to.
And CONTRIBUTE TO THE DRINK KITTY IN MTW.
I will only be available the weekend before (7-20 to 22) and thru
Wednesday on the ground at OSH. If someone parks an RV in the spot -
please work out a drink kitty with them.
If you cannot register on the web site - SEND ME AN EMAIL TO LET ME
KNOW YOU ARE COMING !!
INCLUDE:
Pilot ----
GIB ----
N# -----
Type ----
Wing / Lead / None
Arrival date ----
Sergei - Yes / No ?
Preferred Oil ---
DON'T FORGET -
FAA is at OSH and there are special requirements to fly in the airshow.
Bring the necessary documents !!!
Looking forward to seeing you there -
Herb
drc@wscare.com
Cell - 920-639-8434
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Just a thought, everyone from the Southeast I know will be based at OSH like
last year, and it made for a much more enjoyable Airventure. I would
encourage all that are flying a MTW before OSH to consider basing at OSH for
the show.
Two Major Reasons -
- Your happiness - you can relax before and after the show, and might
actually get to enjoy it.. Costs - fuel flying back and forth , stress of
making the briefings, etc..
- The RedStar Association - we made a very good impression on the organizers
this year at Sun-n-Fun by bringing a lot of planes, and FLYING a lot of
planes. If we are going to continue to gain credibility , we need all the
planes we have. Plus, we are going to have the CJ deal next year, and it
will be a good practice to have the logistics working out.
- Lastly, mass briefings - at SnF 07' , we found some success in a changed
briefing schedule - We have started having a early morning brief ( everyone
), then a short brief after the 'airshow brief' closer to our time to fly.
This has allowed for more planning, discussion , and less rush to the
planes. Thus, if someone is flying in the show, they will need to get up
even earlier now, in order to make the show. Then we know how many, what we
are flying, well prior to the airshow brief, and the flight.
Just some thoughts, looking forward to seeing everyone again.
David "Talon" McGirt
Yak 52 TW
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: MTW / OSH 2007
RED STAR PILOTS !!!
Oshkosh is 2 months away !!
The event is posted on the web site and I am emailing details to the
Yak-list. Spread the news. Whoever does the e-comms may copy and
also put in the news letter.
Oshkosh Airventure starts Monday 7-23 and runs until Sunday 7-29
http://www.airventure.org/
Red Stars will gather at Manitowoc starting the weekend before -
Friday 7-20, Saturday 7-21, Sunday 7-22.
We will base out of the EAA hanger at MTW. They have allowed us to
use it for the last few years.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby will be leading the mass formation practice out
of MTW. The plan is to not have as much activity in MTW after
airventure begins in OSH. I anticipate that a group will stay in MTW
during the week due to hotel availability. They will gather and come
to OSH in the morning and return to MTW after the airshow or in the
afternoons. Lets try to stay together - MTW for the weekend then OSH
by Monday.
During the week we will depart MTW and recover in OSH for the warbird
briefings. then fly in the warbird portion of the airshow. Any Yaks/
CJs based in OSH for the week can gather for EAAs warbird briefing
(new pilots) and the Red Star briefing just northwest of the warbird
tower/building. The larger our numbers grow and the quality formation
work we do will help to get lower altitudes and more regognition for
the airshow.
Some guys will recover at OSH - some will recover at MTW.
RV
IF ANYONE WANTS TO USE THE RV SPOT IN THE WARBIRD AREA LET ME
KNOW!!! I need to know if we wil have a RV here to let Bill Fischer
at EAA know our plans. If you want to bring an RV contact me off
list. FIrst one to commit gets it. The RV needs to be parked there
on Saturday 7-21 at the latest. Water and electricity available.
Sewer dump comes around a couple of times per week. LET ME KNOW ASAP
if you can / want to bring an RV. If you want to rent an RV locally
and have it set up on the site I can arrange. IT BE YOUR COST FOR
THE WEEK. I rented one 2 years ago and last year borrowed one. If
no one brings or rents an RV for the week, I will get a larger and
nicer vendor tent. We can set up a rent-a-tent for the week for
briefings, hang out, etc. I can get a heavier duty vendor type tent
with sidewalls for the site. A tent in the warbird flightline area
again is great to gather, get some shade and a cool drink. Look for
the banners.
Even if you do not plan on flying in the mass formation - come hang out.
AEROBATICS BOX -
The waiver application is into the FAA. The application is the same
as last year - but you never know with the local FSDO. The box will
be over the field at MTW and can be activated with phone call anytime
between 7AM and 9PM local time. Bring your altitude waivers (ACE
card) and have fun!!
SERGEI BORIAK -
Sergei will be here for the week. In the past people have told me
they will fly with him and then not flown during the week. I get him
here and pay his travel based on having at least 6 pilots to fly -
this covers his expenses. This year there will be an event - "SERGEI
BORIAK" on the web site. If you want to fly with Sergei you have to
commit by signing up and the event fee is $100. He will then fly
with you for $150/hour - pay directly to Sergei. If we do not have 6
pilots then I will cancel Sergei. If we have more than 6 I will
refund the extra costs. You only pay the event fee once. Even if
you fly 2 or 3 flights
I already have 2 pilots. We have enough time for more flights with
him this year as he can arrive Friday 7-20 and fly out of MTW. He
will probably stay the whole week in MTW as he may fly in the
afternoon airshows. He will be available thru the week to fly out of
OSH also. It is worth it. I have flown with him several times. You
will have fun and learn more in that hour than you can imagine. He
will suit the flight to your needs - easy beginner stuff like loops
and rolls - to inverted spins, lomchavaks, etc. Some video from 3
years ago.
http://web.mac.com/hscuzz/iWeb/Yak%20Videos/Spin.html
RODGER MODGLIN DINNER.
I am unsure if the memorial dinner for Rodger's scholarship fund will
be an annual event. I contacted Zoe and Ashley and it sounded like
there will not be a dinner this year. Stay tuned.
FBO
Lakeshore Aviation at MTW. They will coordinate fuel and oil with a
tag system as in the past.
Contact info - Curt Drumm - owner 920-682-0043
Of course Basler and Orion on the field at OSH.
HOTELS -
Heritage Inn - 908 Washington Manitowoc, WI 54220 920-682-8271
Ask for RedStar Pilots rate - about 55$
Holiday Inn - 4601 Calumet Manitowoc, WI 54220 866-270-5110
RENTAL CARS -
U-Save Auto - 1015 South 26th St 920-682-8024
Luloffs - 1401 Washington 920-682-0121
Enterprise - 4611 Expo Dr 920-652-9994
OSH INFO
http://www.airventure.org
COST
The only cost is flying with Sergei if you want to.
And CONTRIBUTE TO THE DRINK KITTY IN MTW.
I will only be available the weekend before (7-20 to 22) and thru
Wednesday on the ground at OSH. If someone parks an RV in the spot -
please work out a drink kitty with them.
If you cannot register on the web site - SEND ME AN EMAIL TO LET ME
KNOW YOU ARE COMING !!
INCLUDE:
Pilot ----
GIB ----
N# -----
Type ----
Wing / Lead / None
Arrival date ----
Sergei - Yes / No ?
Preferred Oil ---
DON'T FORGET -
FAA is at OSH and there are special requirements to fly in the airshow.
Bring the necessary documents !!!
Looking forward to seeing you there -
Herb
drc@wscare.com
Cell - 920-639-8434
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| Subject: | FUEL DISCOUNT - Warbird Fly in 5-12-07 at KMRT Union County |
Airport Marysville Ohio
The Warbird Fly In to KMRT in Marysville Ohio is less than 2 weeks away!
Yak Pilots, CJ Pilots, RedStar Pilots and to all other Pilots:
Mark your calendar, Saturday MAY 12th 2007 will be the 1st Warbird
Fly In at the Union County Airport in Marysville, Ohio (KMRT). 27/9
4218' x 75' paved http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMRT
http://www.primeaeroinc.com/
EVENT sponsored by EAA Chapter 9 http://www.eaa9.org/
Pancake breakfest at 9am followed by FAA Wings Seminars by Aviation
Attorney Jerry Eichenberger " Co-Ownership of Aircraft" and Aviation
Medical Examiner Dr. Robert Lewis "Getting High at Altitude"
All aircraft are invited to Fly In and enjoy the breakfest, listen to
the speakers and of course admire the Warbirds. There will be plenty
of local pilots and kids attending that would love to see your "Warbird"
Notes:
1.) If you're a FAST IP and can attend, please let me know, classroom
space is available for formation training.
2.) A $.50 off per gallon fuel discount will be available for all
Warbirds flying in.
3.) Pray for decent weather.
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Charlie Lynch, Steve Dalton and I are basing out of OSH for the complete
week. However, we may make a short day trip to MTW to enjoy Sergei and the
box.
Dan
>From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: MTW / OSH 2007
>Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:58:31 -0400
>
>
>Just a thought, everyone from the Southeast I know will be based at OSH
>like
>last year, and it made for a much more enjoyable Airventure. I would
>encourage all that are flying a MTW before OSH to consider basing at OSH
>for
>the show.
>
>Two Major Reasons -
>
>- Your happiness - you can relax before and after the show, and might
>actually get to enjoy it.. Costs - fuel flying back and forth , stress of
>making the briefings, etc..
>
>- The RedStar Association - we made a very good impression on the
>organizers
>this year at Sun-n-Fun by bringing a lot of planes, and FLYING a lot of
>planes. If we are going to continue to gain credibility , we need all the
>planes we have. Plus, we are going to have the CJ deal next year, and it
>will be a good practice to have the logistics working out.
>
>- Lastly, mass briefings - at SnF 07' , we found some success in a changed
>briefing schedule - We have started having a early morning brief ( everyone
>), then a short brief after the 'airshow brief' closer to our time to fly.
>This has allowed for more planning, discussion , and less rush to the
>planes. Thus, if someone is flying in the show, they will need to get up
>even earlier now, in order to make the show. Then we know how many, what
>we
>are flying, well prior to the airshow brief, and the flight.
>
>
>Just some thoughts, looking forward to seeing everyone again.
>
>David "Talon" McGirt
>Yak 52 TW
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:27 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: MTW / OSH 2007
>
>
>RED STAR PILOTS !!!
>
>Oshkosh is 2 months away !!
>
>The event is posted on the web site and I am emailing details to the
>Yak-list. Spread the news. Whoever does the e-comms may copy and
>also put in the news letter.
>
>Oshkosh Airventure starts Monday 7-23 and runs until Sunday 7-29
>http://www.airventure.org/
>
>Red Stars will gather at Manitowoc starting the weekend before -
>Friday 7-20, Saturday 7-21, Sunday 7-22.
>We will base out of the EAA hanger at MTW. They have allowed us to
>use it for the last few years.
>
>
>Jim "Pappy" Goolsby will be leading the mass formation practice out
>of MTW. The plan is to not have as much activity in MTW after
>airventure begins in OSH. I anticipate that a group will stay in MTW
>during the week due to hotel availability. They will gather and come
>to OSH in the morning and return to MTW after the airshow or in the
>afternoons. Lets try to stay together - MTW for the weekend then OSH
>by Monday.
>
>During the week we will depart MTW and recover in OSH for the warbird
>briefings. then fly in the warbird portion of the airshow. Any Yaks/
>CJs based in OSH for the week can gather for EAAs warbird briefing
>(new pilots) and the Red Star briefing just northwest of the warbird
>tower/building. The larger our numbers grow and the quality formation
>work we do will help to get lower altitudes and more regognition for
>the airshow.
>
>Some guys will recover at OSH - some will recover at MTW.
>
>RV
>IF ANYONE WANTS TO USE THE RV SPOT IN THE WARBIRD AREA LET ME
>KNOW!!! I need to know if we wil have a RV here to let Bill Fischer
>at EAA know our plans. If you want to bring an RV contact me off
>list. FIrst one to commit gets it. The RV needs to be parked there
>on Saturday 7-21 at the latest. Water and electricity available.
>Sewer dump comes around a couple of times per week. LET ME KNOW ASAP
>if you can / want to bring an RV. If you want to rent an RV locally
>and have it set up on the site I can arrange. IT BE YOUR COST FOR
>THE WEEK. I rented one 2 years ago and last year borrowed one. If
>no one brings or rents an RV for the week, I will get a larger and
>nicer vendor tent. We can set up a rent-a-tent for the week for
>briefings, hang out, etc. I can get a heavier duty vendor type tent
>with sidewalls for the site. A tent in the warbird flightline area
>again is great to gather, get some shade and a cool drink. Look for
>the banners.
>Even if you do not plan on flying in the mass formation - come hang out.
>
>AEROBATICS BOX -
>The waiver application is into the FAA. The application is the same
>as last year - but you never know with the local FSDO. The box will
>be over the field at MTW and can be activated with phone call anytime
>between 7AM and 9PM local time. Bring your altitude waivers (ACE
>card) and have fun!!
>
>SERGEI BORIAK -
>Sergei will be here for the week. In the past people have told me
>they will fly with him and then not flown during the week. I get him
>here and pay his travel based on having at least 6 pilots to fly -
>this covers his expenses. This year there will be an event - "SERGEI
>BORIAK" on the web site. If you want to fly with Sergei you have to
>commit by signing up and the event fee is $100. He will then fly
>with you for $150/hour - pay directly to Sergei. If we do not have 6
>pilots then I will cancel Sergei. If we have more than 6 I will
>refund the extra costs. You only pay the event fee once. Even if
>you fly 2 or 3 flights
>I already have 2 pilots. We have enough time for more flights with
>him this year as he can arrive Friday 7-20 and fly out of MTW. He
>will probably stay the whole week in MTW as he may fly in the
>afternoon airshows. He will be available thru the week to fly out of
>OSH also. It is worth it. I have flown with him several times. You
>will have fun and learn more in that hour than you can imagine. He
>will suit the flight to your needs - easy beginner stuff like loops
>and rolls - to inverted spins, lomchavaks, etc. Some video from 3
>years ago.
>
>http://web.mac.com/hscuzz/iWeb/Yak%20Videos/Spin.html
>
>RODGER MODGLIN DINNER.
>I am unsure if the memorial dinner for Rodger's scholarship fund will
>be an annual event. I contacted Zoe and Ashley and it sounded like
>there will not be a dinner this year. Stay tuned.
>
>FBO
>Lakeshore Aviation at MTW. They will coordinate fuel and oil with a
>tag system as in the past.
>Contact info - Curt Drumm - owner 920-682-0043
>Of course Basler and Orion on the field at OSH.
>
>HOTELS -
>Heritage Inn - 908 Washington Manitowoc, WI 54220 920-682-8271
>Ask for RedStar Pilots rate - about 55$
>
>Holiday Inn - 4601 Calumet Manitowoc, WI 54220 866-270-5110
>
>RENTAL CARS -
>U-Save Auto - 1015 South 26th St 920-682-8024
>Luloffs - 1401 Washington 920-682-0121
>Enterprise - 4611 Expo Dr 920-652-9994
>
>OSH INFO
>http://www.airventure.org
>
>COST
>The only cost is flying with Sergei if you want to.
>And CONTRIBUTE TO THE DRINK KITTY IN MTW.
>I will only be available the weekend before (7-20 to 22) and thru
>Wednesday on the ground at OSH. If someone parks an RV in the spot -
>please work out a drink kitty with them.
>
>
>If you cannot register on the web site - SEND ME AN EMAIL TO LET ME
>KNOW YOU ARE COMING !!
>INCLUDE:
>Pilot ----
>GIB ----
>N# -----
>Type ----
>Wing / Lead / None
>Arrival date ----
>Sergei - Yes / No ?
>Preferred Oil ---
>
>DON'T FORGET -
>FAA is at OSH and there are special requirements to fly in the airshow.
>Bring the necessary documents !!!
>
>Looking forward to seeing you there -
>
>Herb
>drc@wscare.com
>Cell - 920-639-8434
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak wheel covers! |
Anyone have a set of wheel covers Yak (screw onto wheel) they would like to sell?
I think Chang ones are the same too.
Or .option B I could borrow one (I eat the shipping) to use as a template to make
my own.
Thanks !!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: MTW / OSH 2007 |
I'd like some guidance on housing at OSH. MTW is convenient in this respect.
Where are the OSHers planning to sleep? ...Blitz
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Several small groups ( 3-5 each) have found a lot of success renting houses
for the week. Bill Walker might even know of another house that is
available.
David
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW / OSH 2007
I'd like some guidance on housing at OSH. MTW is convenient in this respect.
Where are the OSHers planning to sleep? ...Blitz
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| Subject: | On behalf of Dragon Flight, thanks for you help this morning |
One last personal note -
we learned that most General aviation pilots do not know what a "RedStar
Flight of 9" is.. a humorus episode followed in Cedar Key before Sun-n-Fun.
( also, allow for the southern drawl of the words.. mind you..)
While coordinating with a Cessna inbound the Cedar Key, I was letting him
know where the flight of 9 was, and what we would be doing and where.. and
working with him as we all heading to the Cedar Key International Airport
hair care and tire center..
Anyway, he figured out late what a "flight of 9" was , when he came on the
radio when he finally had visual.. " Roger, holy crap, you have a lots of
planes there Flight-9"
Anyway, just good lessons across the board in the overall discussion. Our
terms are not always well known.
David "Talon - Flight of 9" McGirt
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Yak-List: On behalf of Dragon Flight, thanks for you help this
morning
Folks,
The discussion has been lively on the issue of formation ops at non towered
fields concerning the recent near miss. Some of our pilots involved are
writing up a "There I was..." article for the magazine, with some
recommendations taken in part from all the responses in your posts here.
Although I may not see every post on the yak list, I wanted to support
something Cliff wrote in his post below:
The next time you hear good callouts from a spam can
driver, go up to him when he's tying down and compliment him on his
procedure. He'll appreciate it, you'll feel good and you will have
created a very attentive joint user of the airspace from that point on.
Cliff Umscheid, YAK 50
Our use of disciplined radio procedures, brevity in formation
communications, pre-coodination of formation operations with local agencys
when needed (tower controllers) and the use of the occassional "thank you"
produces a culture in RedStar that serves you, the warbid owner, well. As
we go through our paces marshalling the flight into or out of the airport, I
try to end it with a thank you to the controllers - as you might imagine,
this professional courtesy often produces the patience and extra effort
(traffic coordination for example) that we all need/desire from these
folks...
Please Note: Formation qualified or not, even if your Yak, CJ or L-29/39 is
down for MX or in the paint shop (bring the Cessna), If you live in OK, KS,
LA or TX, or anywhere in the SouthCentral region, the RPA is sponsoring a
Fly-In/meet and greet and "future central event" planning session for May
10-13th at a field "near Dallas" ( inquotations as the Texans are scrubbing
a few local airports in te area). I've recieved several requests for
something in Texas, a region with ample membership; if you would like to see
an annual event, please attempt to fly out for this local meet and greet,
even if its just for one day. If you are new to formation ops and interestd
in getting started, this is a great opportunity to see where the program is
heading (should be plenty of empty seats for an observation flight if
desired)
We will:
- Have a discussion group/plans session on dates and locations for a
proposed annual event
- Conduct a formation ground school and overview of the new formation manual
tools
- Conduct form flight training, rec rides and evals as required
- Have fun, meet who's who in this area...
Date, Location and Registration:
The event is listed on the Fly-In page at www.flyredstar.org as the SC/texas
fly-in, please register online, its free, and insures we have an accurate
head count and contact info...
Fly-ins are the best fun you can have as a warbid owner, if you live in this
area, drop by and be counted in support of this annual event concept...
Drew
Drew A. Blahnick
RPA President
www.flyredstar.org <http://www.flyredstar.org/>
V.954.636.7560
F.305.675.3940
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| Subject: | YAK 50 smoke systems |
Anybody have experience with smoke systems in the 50?
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
Unfortunately, they aren't screwed onto the wheel. They're riveted to the
wheel. Approximately 10 mm of the metal around the inside diameter hole is
used to hold the felt grease seal in place. Removing the disc/cover exposes
the felt seal requiring a smaller disc to be fabricated to fit around the
felt seal and bearing. Without that cover the wheel will sling grease and
more importantly the front bearing is exposed to grit and dirt.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak wheel covers!
>
> Anyone have a set of wheel covers ?oYak? (screw onto wheel) they would
> like to sell?
>
> I think Chang ones are the same too.
>
> Or ?.option B ? I could borrow one (I eat the shipping) to use as a
> template to make my own.
>
> Thanks !!!!!
>
> --------
> You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110423#110423
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
I should have said the outside bearing. Not the "front" bearing. Sorry.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak wheel covers!
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Unfortunately, they aren't screwed onto the wheel. They're riveted to the
> wheel. Approximately 10 mm of the metal around the inside diameter hole
> is used to hold the felt grease seal in place. Removing the disc/cover
> exposes the felt seal requiring a smaller disc to be fabricated to fit
> around the felt seal and bearing. Without that cover the wheel will sling
> grease and more importantly the front bearing is exposed to grit and dirt.
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:35 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak wheel covers!
>
>
>>
>> Anyone have a set of wheel covers ?oYak? (screw onto wheel) they would
>> like to sell?
>>
>> I think Chang ones are the same too.
>>
>> Or ?.option B ? I could borrow one (I eat the shipping) to use as a
>> template to make my own.
>>
>> Thanks !!!!!
>>
>> --------
>> You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110423#110423
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co wrote:
> I should have said the outside bearing. Not the "front" bearing. Sorry.
> Dennis
>
> ---
Once again you are correct! My old 52 had them screwed on for servicing. The holes
were drilled and tapped.
Thats why I mentioned using one for a template.
Soooooo much easier.
I get the feeling Im gonna be SOL on this one.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Yak wheel covers! |
Hmmm, riveted on the Yak maybe but the CJ wheel is interchangeable and uses the
Chinese version of the Parker-Kaylon threaded rivet that is driven in. I can
make wheel covers without too much trouble, even polished "moon discs". The reason
why so many wheels are absent covers (on CJ's) are because the brakes overheat
easy in hot weather and run cooler with some airflow. Taxiing into the hanger
door due to brake fade at the end of a long taxi with a strong tailwind
is a story too oft told.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: MTW / OSH 2007 |
Dave wrote:
>
>Just a thought, everyone from the Southeast I know will be based at OSH like
>last year, and it made for a much more enjoyable Airventure. I would
>encourage all that are flying a MTW before OSH to consider basing at OSH for
>the show.
I second that motion. The WB picnic is a real treat and takes place Sunday night
BEFORE OSH starts. If dinner or event is planned at MTW, I'd like to attend
and can offer the trade of a bed at the dorms for one night during the week in
a Manitowoc spare bed for that WB picnic night on Sunday.
Having just filed today for early Social Security, I are now ethnic wealthy :>)
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
[quote="cpayne(at)joimail.com"]Hmmm, riveted on the Yak maybe but the CJ wheel
is interchangeable and uses the Chinese version of the Parker-Kaylon threaded
rivet that is driven in. I can make wheel covers without too much trouble, even
polished "moon discs". The reason why so many wheels are absent covers (on CJ's)
are because the brakes overheat easy in hot weather and run cooler with some
airflow. Taxiing into the hanger door due to brake fade at the end of a long
taxi with a strong tailwind is a story too oft told.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com (cpayne@joimail.com)
You are correct also! My thoughts were on the same lines. I like the cooling and,
I like the look better for some odd reason. I was thinking something just big
enough to keep the felt seals inand that is it. 4.250 O.D X 2.750 I.D. Then
drill & tap the holes.
It would be easier just to lay an old one on some sheet and mark it up. Then start
cutting.
Is there a CJ spare out there??? BTW: one of the wheels is off of a CJ it has
the Chinese writing on it.
Any thoughts?
> [b]
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Just a thought, everyone from the Southeast I know will be based at OSH
like
last year, and it made for a much more enjoyable Airventure. I would
encourage all that are flying a MTW before OSH to consider basing at OSH
for
the show.
Two Major Reasons -
- Your happiness - you can relax before and after the show, and might
actually get to enjoy it.. Costs - fuel flying back and forth , stress
of
making the briefings, etc..
- The RedStar Association - we made a very good impression on the
organizers
this year at Sun-n-Fun by bringing a lot of planes, and FLYING a lot of
planes. If we are going to continue to gain credibility , we need all
the
planes we have. Plus, we are going to have the CJ deal next year, and
it
will be a good practice to have the logistics working out.
- Lastly, mass briefings - at SnF 07' , we found some success in a
changed
briefing schedule - We have started having a early morning brief (
everyone
), then a short brief after the 'airshow brief' closer to our time to
fly.
This has allowed for more planning, discussion , and less rush to the
planes. Thus, if someone is flying in the show, they will need to get
up
even earlier now, in order to make the show. Then we know how many,
what we
are flying, well prior to the airshow brief, and the flight.
Just some thoughts, looking forward to seeing everyone again.
David "Talon" McGirt
Yak 52 TW
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: MTW / OSH 2007
RED STAR PILOTS !!!
Oshkosh is 2 months away !!
The event is posted on the web site and I am emailing details to the
Yak-list. Spread the news. Whoever does the e-comms may copy and
also put in the news letter.
Oshkosh Airventure starts Monday 7-23 and runs until Sunday 7-29
http://www.airventure.org/
Red Stars will gather at Manitowoc starting the weekend before -
Friday 7-20, Saturday 7-21, Sunday 7-22.
We will base out of the EAA hanger at MTW. They have allowed us to
use it for the last few years.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby will be leading the mass formation practice out
of MTW. The plan is to not have as much activity in MTW after
airventure begins in OSH. I anticipate that a group will stay in MTW
during the week due to hotel availability. They will gather and come
to OSH in the morning and return to MTW after the airshow or in the
afternoons. Lets try to stay together - MTW for the weekend then OSH
by Monday.
During the week we will depart MTW and recover in OSH for the warbird
briefings. then fly in the warbird portion of the airshow. Any Yaks/
CJs based in OSH for the week can gather for EAAs warbird briefing
(new pilots) and the Red Star briefing just northwest of the warbird
tower/building. The larger our numbers grow and the quality formation
work we do will help to get lower altitudes and more regognition for
the airshow.
Some guys will recover at OSH - some will recover at MTW.
RV
IF ANYONE WANTS TO USE THE RV SPOT IN THE WARBIRD AREA LET ME
KNOW!!! I need to know if we wil have a RV here to let Bill Fischer
at EAA know our plans. If you want to bring an RV contact me off
list. FIrst one to commit gets it. The RV needs to be parked there
on Saturday 7-21 at the latest. Water and electricity available.
Sewer dump comes around a couple of times per week. LET ME KNOW ASAP
if you can / want to bring an RV. If you want to rent an RV locally
and have it set up on the site I can arrange. IT BE YOUR COST FOR
THE WEEK. I rented one 2 years ago and last year borrowed one. If
no one brings or rents an RV for the week, I will get a larger and
nicer vendor tent. We can set up a rent-a-tent for the week for
briefings, hang out, etc. I can get a heavier duty vendor type tent
with sidewalls for the site. A tent in the warbird flightline area
again is great to gather, get some shade and a cool drink. Look for
the banners.
Even if you do not plan on flying in the mass formation - come hang out.
AEROBATICS BOX -
The waiver application is into the FAA. The application is the same
as last year - but you never know with the local FSDO. The box will
be over the field at MTW and can be activated with phone call anytime
between 7AM and 9PM local time. Bring your altitude waivers (ACE
card) and have fun!!
SERGEI BORIAK -
Sergei will be here for the week. In the past people have told me
they will fly with him and then not flown during the week. I get him
here and pay his travel based on having at least 6 pilots to fly -
this covers his expenses. This year there will be an event - "SERGEI
BORIAK" on the web site. If you want to fly with Sergei you have to
commit by signing up and the event fee is $100. He will then fly
with you for $150/hour - pay directly to Sergei. If we do not have 6
pilots then I will cancel Sergei. If we have more than 6 I will
refund the extra costs. You only pay the event fee once. Even if
you fly 2 or 3 flights
I already have 2 pilots. We have enough time for more flights with
him this year as he can arrive Friday 7-20 and fly out of MTW. He
will probably stay the whole week in MTW as he may fly in the
afternoon airshows. He will be available thru the week to fly out of
OSH also. It is worth it. I have flown with him several times. You
will have fun and learn more in that hour than you can imagine. He
will suit the flight to your needs - easy beginner stuff like loops
and rolls - to inverted spins, lomchavaks, etc. Some video from 3
years ago.
http://web.mac.com/hscuzz/iWeb/Yak%20Videos/Spin.html
RODGER MODGLIN DINNER.
I am unsure if the memorial dinner for Rodger's scholarship fund will
be an annual event. I contacted Zoe and Ashley and it sounded like
there will not be a dinner this year. Stay tuned.
FBO
Lakeshore Aviation at MTW. They will coordinate fuel and oil with a
tag system as in the past.
Contact info - Curt Drumm - owner 920-682-0043
Of course Basler and Orion on the field at OSH.
HOTELS -
Heritage Inn - 908 Washington Manitowoc, WI 54220 920-682-8271
Ask for RedStar Pilots rate - about 55$
Holiday Inn - 4601 Calumet Manitowoc, WI 54220 866-270-5110
RENTAL CARS -
U-Save Auto - 1015 South 26th St 920-682-8024
Luloffs - 1401 Washington 920-682-0121
Enterprise - 4611 Expo Dr 920-652-9994
OSH INFO
http://www.airventure.org
COST
The only cost is flying with Sergei if you want to.
And CONTRIBUTE TO THE DRINK KITTY IN MTW.
I will only be available the weekend before (7-20 to 22) and thru
Wednesday on the ground at OSH. If someone parks an RV in the spot -
please work out a drink kitty with them.
If you cannot register on the web site - SEND ME AN EMAIL TO LET ME
KNOW YOU ARE COMING !!
INCLUDE:
Pilot ----
GIB ----
N# -----
Type ----
Wing / Lead / None
Arrival date ----
Sergei - Yes / No ?
Preferred Oil ---
DON'T FORGET -
FAA is at OSH and there are special requirements to fly in the airshow.
Bring the necessary documents !!!
Looking forward to seeing you there -
Herb
drc@wscare.com
Cell - 920-639-8434
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If you weren't at Sun N Fun, this is what you missed. )P
http://www.airshowbuzz.com/videos/view.php?v=79f201ea
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Approaches |
Sorry....I can't hear you........ I'm a bit deaf !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Overhead Approaches
>
> " 2. What the heck is a cloth ear? :-) Thank you."
>
>>From the net:
>
> Cloth Ear
>
> Noun: A deaf person; a person who is hard of hearing.
>
> Originates from the northern English county of Lancashire and in
> particular Blackburn during the industrial revolution. Blackburn was
home
> to many cotton mills (weaving and spinning)- commonly very noisy
places
> that caused deafness due to the noise and a buildup of cotton dust in
the
> ear.
>
> Oi - cloth ears... are tha' deaf? I said come here!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110271#110271
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