---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/10/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Jason Bialek) 2. 07:15 AM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Roger Kemp M.D.) 3. 08:40 AM - Red Star Event in Rockford (Jill Gernetzke) 4. 09:16 AM - Re: Red Star Event in Rockford (Sam Sax) 5. 09:39 AM - Re: Red Star Event in Rockford (cjpilot710@aol.com) 6. 12:24 PM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 7. 12:44 PM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Roger Kemp M.D.) 8. 01:23 PM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Jorgen Nielsen) 9. 02:41 PM - (ROBERT SCHWARTZ) 10. 04:48 PM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Scott Poehlmann) 11. 06:40 PM - Re: Red Star Event in Rockford (Cliff Coy) 12. 06:59 PM - Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report (Dr Andre Katz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:30 AM PST US From: "Jason Bialek" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot more money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro through advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1 and 1/4 turn inverted spins recently without any quirks especially when compared with the Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on heading. I have flown single seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the Yak 55. You know exactly what the airplane is doing through every manuever including tumbles. I have never felt like the airplane wasn't responsive to what I was trying to do. I even like the stick geometry with the stick being up higher than other aircraft. It seems to be more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I have flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and accelerate (tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively easily. Every other airplane I've flown I had some comments about negative traits, but I haven't yet had one on the Yak and I've had the airplane 2 years now. Best Regards, Jason Yak 55m Seattle, WA >From: Dr Andre Katz >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) > > >look into mark/s web page in england, there is a >comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that >flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very >favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for >the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love >the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of >inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida) >there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have >the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is >the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of >power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in >the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun >time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, >they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be >there so I have fun with mine. >andres >--- PSalter@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying > > qualities good and bad of > > the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 > > but have not found a > > report. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Phil Salter > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > > free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see troublebefore he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:31 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report You gotta love that sexy little 50 too. She will do all you speak too. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jason Bialek Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:15 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot more money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro through advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1 and 1/4 turn inverted spins recently without any quirks especially when compared with the Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on heading. I have flown single seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the Yak 55. You know exactly what the airplane is doing through every manuever including tumbles. I have never felt like the airplane wasn't responsive to what I was trying to do. I even like the stick geometry with the stick being up higher than other aircraft. It seems to be more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I have flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and accelerate (tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively easily. Every other airplane I've flown I had some comments about negative traits, but I haven't yet had one on the Yak and I've had the airplane 2 years now. Best Regards, Jason Yak 55m Seattle, WA >From: Dr Andre Katz >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) > > >look into mark/s web page in england, there is a >comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that >flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very >favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for >the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love >the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of >inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida) >there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have >the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is >the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of >power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in >the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun >time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, >they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be >there so I have fun with mine. >andres >--- PSalter@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying > > qualities good and bad of > > the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 > > but have not found a > > report. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Phil Salter > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > > free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see trouble.before he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:50 AM PST US From: Jill Gernetzke Subject: Yak-List: Red Star Event in Rockford Group, Carl & I will be traveling to Rockford next week for the North Central RPA Fly-In. I know the hosts have been working hard at planning a great weekend for everyone. At Friday evening's dinner, we essentially give a State of the Red Star address from our corner of the Yak world. There will also be new product announcements and our forecast for the future operation of our aircraft and engines. On Saturday from 3:00 - 5:00 p.m., we will conduct a maintenance seminar. The first segment will center on the M-14P engine: - Major problems that we see coming through our facility or spend time helping our customers sort out? - Modifications that are out there and a cost/benefit analysis. - Basic engine theory and operation with Q&A With the remaining time, the Yak airframe will be addressed with particular attention paid to the air system: Theory & Operation, Problems, Routine Maintenance and Repair. Carl & I have volunteered to conduct the seminar and encourage anyone who has a thirst for learning more about the operation of their aircraft to attend. It is a rare occasion that we break out of the hangar to participate in these events. We are very much looking forward to it whether there are 10 or 100 people in attendance. Title of the Event: NC RPA, YAK-CJ Spring fly-in Organizer's Name: David Mills Organizer's Email: dmills@millschevy.com Airport Name: Greater Rockford Airport Identifier RFD State:IL Start Date: 5/18/2007 End Date: 5/20/2007 Additional Notes: Register now for the RPA Spring Fly-In for the North Central Region. Limited space is available. We have scheduled three days of formation flying and information at Rockford Illinois (RFD) on May 18-20. YAK and CJ pilots will sharpen their formation skills all week end. Plan to arrive on Friday at noon for registration. Qualified RPA CP's and IP's are scheduled to attend to provide instruction on FAST fundamentals. North American PRIDE aircraft (tel 815-969-7743) will be the host for this event. All services will be available and a fuel discount has been arranged. The cost is $90 for pre-registered pilots and a $125 fee will be charged the day of the event. Two catered hangar dinners and two light lunches are included. These are great dinners and not just snack grub. We are fortunate to have arranged two maintenance briefs and a clinic has been scheduled for Saturday by Carl and Jill Hays of M-14P. The Hays' will have a presentation Friday evening in concert with our catered hangar dinner. Cliff Coy will also join us with a brief saturday evening that is sure to be of interest to owner operators. Make your room reservation today at Quality Inn tel 815-227-1300. A discounted rate has been arranged and be sure to ask for it. Register today for this premier formation flying event. Jill Gernetzke M-14P, Incorporated 4905 Flightline Drive Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417 (928)-681-4400 Fax(928)681-4404 www.m-14p.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:11 AM PST US From: Sam Sax Subject: Re: Yak-List: Red Star Event in Rockford Hi Jill, Your maintenance seminar and giving the "State of The Union" address about the engine/aircraft is a fantastic idea! I believe that this is so important that you may wish to consider making the content published beyond the event in Rockford. I am sure sharing your experience and forecast with us all will greatly benefit everyone on the List and will be good for business too. You used to have a monthly newsletter or "E-Gram" in the past. I am certain it takes a lot of effort to produce something like that but it was really a great service to all of us. Best regards to you and Carl, Sam Sax Miami -----Original Message----- >From: Jill Gernetzke >Sent: May 10, 2007 11:38 AM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Red Star Event in Rockford > >Group, > >Carl & I will be traveling to Rockford next week for the North Central >RPA Fly-In. I know the hosts have been working hard at planning a >great weekend for everyone. >At Friday evening's dinner, we essentially give a State of the Red Star >address from our corner of the Yak world. There will also be new >product announcements and our forecast for the future operation of our >aircraft and engines. > >On Saturday from 3:00 - 5:00 p.m., we will conduct a maintenance >seminar. >The first segment will center on the M-14P engine: >- Major problems that we see coming through our facility or spend time >helping our customers sort out? >- Modifications that are out there and a cost/benefit analysis. >- Basic engine theory and operation with Q&A >With the remaining time, the Yak airframe will be addressed with >particular attention paid to the air system: Theory & Operation, >Problems, Routine Maintenance and Repair. > >Carl & I have volunteered to conduct the seminar and encourage anyone >who has a thirst for learning more about the operation of their >aircraft to attend. It is a rare occasion that we break out of the >hangar to participate in these events. We are very much looking >forward to it whether there are 10 or 100 people in attendance. > > >Title of the Event: NC RPA, YAK-CJ Spring fly-in >Organizer's Name: David Mills >Organizer's Email: dmills@millschevy.com >Airport Name: Greater Rockford >Airport Identifier RFD >State:IL >Start Date: 5/18/2007 >End Date: 5/20/2007 > >Additional Notes: >Register now for the RPA Spring Fly-In for the North Central Region. >Limited space is available. We have scheduled three days of formation >flying and information at Rockford Illinois (RFD) on May 18-20. YAK and >CJ pilots will sharpen their formation skills all week end. Plan to >arrive on Friday at noon for registration. Qualified RPA CP's and IP's >are scheduled to attend to provide instruction on FAST fundamentals. >North American PRIDE aircraft (tel 815-969-7743) will be the host for >this event. All services will be available and a fuel discount has been >arranged. The cost is $90 for pre-registered pilots and a $125 fee will >be charged the day of the event. Two catered hangar dinners and two >light lunches are included. These are great dinners and not just snack >grub. We are fortunate to have arranged two maintenance briefs and a >clinic has been scheduled for Saturday by Carl and Jill Hays of M-14P. >The Hays' will have a presentation Friday evening in concert with our >catered hangar dinner. Cliff Coy will also join us with a brief >saturday evening that is sure to be of interest to owner operators. >Make your room reservation today at Quality Inn tel 815-227-1300. A >discounted rate has been arranged and be sure to ask for it. Register >today for this premier formation flying event. > > >Jill Gernetzke >M-14P, Incorporated >4905 Flightline Drive >Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417 >(928)-681-4400 >Fax(928)681-4404 >www.m-14p.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:36 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Red Star Event in Rockford In a message dated 5/10/2007 12:18:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cd001633@mindspring.com writes: Jill, Make sure someone videos the presentation. Transferred to a DVD would be a great asset to all. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby --> Yak-List message posted by: Sam Sax Hi Jill, Your maintenance seminar and giving the "State of The Union" address about the engine/aircraft is a fantastic idea! I believe that this is so important that you may wish to consider making the content published beyond the event in Rockford. I am sure sharing your experience and forecast with us all will greatly benefit everyone on the List and will be good for business too. You used to have a monthly newsletter or "E-Gram" in the past. I am certain it takes a lot of effort to produce something like that but it was really a great service to all of us. Best regards to you and Carl, Sam Sax Miami -----Original Message----- >From: Jill Gernetzke >Sent: May 10, 2007 11:38 AM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Red Star Event in Rockford > >Group, > >Carl & I will be traveling to Rockford next week for the North Central >RPA Fly-In. I know the hosts have been working hard at planning a >great weekend for everyone. >At Friday evening's dinner, we essentially give a State of the Red Star >address from our corner of the Yak world. There will also be new >product announcements and our forecast for the future operation of our >aircraft and engines. > >On Saturday from 3:00 - 5:00 p.m., we will conduct a maintenance >seminar. >The first segment will center on the M-14P engine: >- Major problems that we see coming through our facility or spend time >helping our customers sort out? >- Modifications that are out there and a cost/benefit analysis. >- Basic engine theory and operation with Q&A >With the remaining time, the Yak airframe will be addressed with >particular attention paid to the air system: Theory & Operation, >Problems, Routine Maintenance and Repair. > >Carl & I have volunteered to conduct the seminar and encourage anyone >who has a thirst for learning more about the operation of their >aircraft to attend. It is a rare occasion that we break out of the >hangar to participate in these events. We are very much looking >forward to it whether there are 10 or 100 people in attendance. > > >Title of the Event: NC RPA, YAK-CJ Spring fly-in >Organizer's Name: David Mills >Organizer's Email: dmills@millschevy.com >Airport Name: Greater Rockford >Airport Identifier RFD >State:IL >Start Date: 5/18/2007 >End Date: 5/20/2007 > >Additional Notes: >Register now for the RPA Spring Fly-In for the North Central Region. >Limited space is available. We have scheduled three days of formation >flying and information at Rockford Illinois (RFD) on May 18-20. YAK and >CJ pilots will sharpen their formation skills all week end. Plan to >arrive on Friday at noon for registration. Qualified RPA CP's and IP's >are scheduled to attend to provide instruction on FAST fundamentals. >North American PRIDE aircraft (tel 815-969-7743) will be the host for >this event. All services will be available and a fuel discount has been >arranged. The cost is $90 for pre-registered pilots and a $125 fee will >be charged the day of the event. Two catered hangar dinners and two >light lunches are included. These are great dinners and not just snack >grub. We are fortunate to have arranged two maintenance briefs and a >clinic has been scheduled for Saturday by Carl and Jill Hays of M-14P. >The Hays' will have a presentation Friday evening in concert with our >catered hangar dinner. Cliff Coy will also join us with a brief >saturday evening that is sure to be of interest to owner operators. >Make your room reservation today at Quality Inn tel 815-227-1300. A >discounted rate has been arranged and be sure to ask for it. Register >today for this premier formation flying event. > > >Jill Gernetzke >M-14P, Incorporated >4905 Flightline Drive >Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417 >(928)-681-4400 >Fax(928)681-4404 >www.m-14p.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:49 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" Not like the 55 Doc. Better wing for aerobatics. And you know how much I adore my 50. I think for airshows though that the 50 might be preferred. Mark B. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:14 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report --> You gotta love that sexy little 50 too. She will do all you speak too. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jason Bialek Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:15 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot more money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro through advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1 and 1/4 turn inverted spins recently without any quirks especially when compared with the Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on heading. I have flown single seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the Yak 55. You know exactly what the airplane is doing through every manuever including tumbles. I have never felt like the airplane wasn't responsive to what I was trying to do. I even like the stick geometry with the stick being up higher than other aircraft. It seems to be more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I have flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and accelerate (tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively easily. Every other airplane I've flown I had some comments about negative traits, but I haven't yet had one on the Yak and I've had the airplane 2 years now. Best Regards, Jason Yak 55m Seattle, WA >From: Dr Andre Katz >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) > > >look into mark/s web page in england, there is a comparison in the webb >from a high time pilot that flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report >is very favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for the buck >there is nothing like the 55, you will love the radial engine and after >you get over the quirks of inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in >florida) there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have the >bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is the funny air start >stuff but you get over it. Lots of power, easy to fly and land, easy to >mantain, messy in the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on >fun time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, they say its >not competitive there. I dont plan to be there so I have fun with mine. >andres >--- PSalter@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying qualities good > > and bad of the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 but > > have not found a report. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Phil Salter > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see trouble.before he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_ 0507 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:32 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report Affirmative! Nothing like her! The 55 is a better acro bird because of it's wing. But, I still love that 50 and I'm not trying to compete in acro competition! Just beat'n up on RV's when they'll play. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report MALS-14 64E" Not like the 55 Doc. Better wing for aerobatics. And you know how much I adore my 50. I think for airshows though that the 50 might be preferred. Mark B. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:14 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report --> You gotta love that sexy little 50 too. She will do all you speak too. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jason Bialek Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:15 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot more money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro through advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1 and 1/4 turn inverted spins recently without any quirks especially when compared with the Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on heading. I have flown single seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the Yak 55. You know exactly what the airplane is doing through every manuever including tumbles. I have never felt like the airplane wasn't responsive to what I was trying to do. I even like the stick geometry with the stick being up higher than other aircraft. It seems to be more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I have flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and accelerate (tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively easily. Every other airplane I've flown I had some comments about negative traits, but I haven't yet had one on the Yak and I've had the airplane 2 years now. Best Regards, Jason Yak 55m Seattle, WA >From: Dr Andre Katz >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) > > >look into mark/s web page in england, there is a comparison in the webb >from a high time pilot that flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report >is very favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for the buck >there is nothing like the 55, you will love the radial engine and after >you get over the quirks of inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in >florida) there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have the >bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is the funny air start >stuff but you get over it. Lots of power, easy to fly and land, easy to >mantain, messy in the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on >fun time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, they say its >not competitive there. I dont plan to be there so I have fun with mine. >andres >--- PSalter@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying qualities good > > and bad of the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 but > > have not found a report. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Phil Salter > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see trouble.before he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_ 0507 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:38 PM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report Andres - which Zlin do you fly? I have been looking at 50LS and a Yak 55 - would like an opinion on both? Climb rate, energy management etc? -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dr Andre Katz Sent: 09 May 2007 11:49 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report look into mark/s web page in england, there is a comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida) there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be there so I have fun with mine. andres --- PSalter@aol.com wrote: > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying > qualities good and bad of > the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 > but have not found a > report. > > Thanks in advance, > > Phil Salter > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:23 PM PST US From: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" Subject: Yak-List: Hello Everyone I am looking for some parts for my YAK 52. I need the Baklin 5 radio transceiver box from the rear. In good working condition or new. Also the grey audio amplifier from under rear control panel and the unit from front cockpit used to dial vhf frequency. I sent these out to Russia for reconditioning and none returned (lesson learned) I hope to hear. Robert E. Schwartz ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:44 PM PST US From: Scott Poehlmann Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report I'll second this. The 55M is essentially an Unlimited airplane (OK, not a "World-Class" Unlimited airplane, but look at the results Jeff Boerboon gets beating up on US Team members in Unlimited in his 55M at the Arizona and SoCal contests...) for very little money. It is absolutely predictable, snaps easily, spins nicely (I also have not had issues with the inverted spin--in fact it is easier to set up an inverted spin, and stop on heading than a Pitts or Su-29) and lumps with the best of them (OK, it doesn't have the "auto-freestyle" feature of the Su-29, but it also has much more docile spin modes). The only real downside is that is scrubs energy above +6/-6 G (which means that you shouldn't pull +9 or push -7, making the sequence more pleasant and less work) and is very draggy. It looses more altitude than a Sukhoi in a sequence, but doesn't beat you up. Having said that, I routinely fly Advanced sequences at density altitudes between 6000 and 8000 feet (field elevation 4100, and it's the summer in the middle of the Chiuahuan desert...) and can start at 3500 and finish at/above 1200. I have heard the Russians joke that it is a "constant speed airplane" since it flies with the same stick forces at 180 kph or 350 kph. In a Pitts or even in a Su-29, Advanced is work. In the 55, it is actually a lot of fun. This is going to sound weird, but I have been a partner in a Su-29 and now own a Yak-55M, and I prefer the Yak to the Sukhoi. The 29 has better absolute performance (although not by much), but is MUCH harder to fly WELL, and is harder on the pilot. Oh, yeah, and it's built like a tank. And best of all, if you ask a 3 year old to draw a picture of an airplane, he'll draw a Yak 55. Scott Jason Bialek wrote: > > In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot > more money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro > through advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1 > and 1/4 turn inverted spins recently without any quirks especially > when compared with the Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on > heading. I have flown single seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the > Yak 55. You know exactly what the airplane is doing through every > manuever including tumbles. I have never felt like the airplane wasn't > responsive to what I was trying to do. I even like the stick geometry > with the stick being up higher than other aircraft. It seems to be > more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I have > flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows > you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and > accelerate (tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively > easily. Every other airplane I've flown I had some comments about > negative traits, but I haven't yet had one on the Yak and I've had the > airplane 2 years now. > > Best Regards, > > Jason > Yak 55m > Seattle, WA > > >> From: Dr Andre Katz >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >> look into mark/s web page in england, there is a >> comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that >> flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very >> favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for >> the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love >> the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of >> inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida) >> there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have >> the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is >> the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of >> power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in >> the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun >> time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, >> they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be >> there so I have fun with mine. >> andres >> --- PSalter@aol.com wrote: >> >> > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying >> > qualities good and bad of >> > the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 >> > but have not found a >> > report. >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > >> > Phil Salter >> > >> > >> > >> > ************************************** See what's >> > free at http://www.aol.com. >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Now you can see troublebefore he arrives > http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:06 PM PST US From: Cliff Coy Subject: Re: Yak-List: Red Star Event in Rockford Can't wait to see you guys out there! I'm heading out on Friday. Looks like on Saturday I'll be giving the state of the Motorstar and Aerostar factories as well as new options and developments available. Cheers, Cliff Jill Gernetzke wrote: > Group, > > Carl & I will be traveling to Rockford next week for the North Central > RPA Fly-In. I know the hosts have been working hard at planning a > great weekend for everyone. > At Friday evening's dinner, we essentially give a State of the Red > Star address from our corner of the Yak world. There will also be new > product announcements and our forecast for the future operation of our > aircraft and engines. > > On Saturday from 3:00 - 5:00 p.m., we will conduct a maintenance seminar. > The first segment will center on the M-14P engine: > - Major problems that we see coming through our facility or spend time > helping our customers sort out? > - Modifications that are out there and a cost/benefit analysis. > - Basic engine theory and operation with Q&A > With the remaining time, the Yak airframe will be addressed with > particular attention paid to the air system: Theory & Operation, > Problems, Routine Maintenance and Repair. > > Carl & I have volunteered to conduct the seminar and encourage anyone > who has a thirst for learning more about the operation of their > aircraft to attend. It is a rare occasion that we break out of the > hangar to participate in these events. We are very much looking > forward to it whether there are 10 or 100 people in attendance. > > > Title of the Event: NC RPA, YAK-CJ Spring fly-in > Organizer's Name: David Mills > Organizer's Email: dmills@millschevy.com > Airport Name: Greater Rockford > Airport Identifier RFD > State:IL > Start Date: 5/18/2007 > End Date: 5/20/2007 > > Additional Notes: > Register now for the RPA Spring Fly-In for the North Central Region. > Limited space is available. We have scheduled three days of formation > flying and information at Rockford Illinois (RFD) on May 18-20. YAK > and CJ pilots will sharpen their formation skills all week end. Plan > to arrive on Friday at noon for registration. Qualified RPA CP's and > IP's are scheduled to attend to provide instruction on FAST > fundamentals. North American PRIDE aircraft (tel 815-969-7743) will be > the host for this event. All services will be available and a fuel > discount has been arranged. The cost is $90 for pre-registered pilots > and a $125 fee will be charged the day of the event. Two catered > hangar dinners and two light lunches are included. These are great > dinners and not just snack grub. We are fortunate to have arranged two > maintenance briefs and a clinic has been scheduled for Saturday by > Carl and Jill Hays of M-14P. The Hays' will have a presentation Friday > evening in concert with our catered hangar dinner. Cliff Coy will also > join us with a brief saturday evening that is sure to be of interest > to owner operators. Make your room reservation today at Quality Inn > tel 815-227-1300. A discounted rate has been arranged and be sure to > ask for it. Register today for this premier formation flying event. > > > Jill Gernetzke > M-14P, Incorporated > 4905 Flightline Drive > Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417 > (928)-681-4400 > Fax(928)681-4404 > www.m-14p.com > size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:09 PM PST US From: Dr Andre Katz Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report i have a 50LS climb rate in the zlin is a bit higher than the yak i believe but i fly both without bothering to check the climb rate. i get to 3500 feet my initial acro faster in the zlin probably due to thin wings. energy management is much easier in the zlin due to the fact that you do not lose so much altitude in the down maneuvers as in the yak, i have to start at 4k in the yak and worry a bit about vertical downs since i am a novice in the sport. i am much more comfortable in the zlin due to the seating position the zlin seat is a marvel the yak is a bitch for a tall person;. the zlin is a gentle pussycat the yak is a tall monster both are really tame when you know them. Landing the zlin is a piece of cake and the speed is slow, the yak wants 180 k on final and it has a pump injector that tends to enrich the mixture when you add power on short final and tends to lag a bit and a couple of unsuspecting guys have hit hard due to the device. i have not changed the injector nozzle yet but i am prepared for the choke. andres Jorgen Nielsen wrote: Andres - which Zlin do you fly? I have been looking at 50LS and a Yak 55 - would like an opinion on both? Climb rate, energy management etc? -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dr Andre Katz Sent: 09 May 2007 11:49 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 55 Flight Test Report look into mark/s web page in england, there is a comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida) there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited, they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be there so I have fun with mine. andres --- PSalter@aol.com wrote: > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying > qualities good and bad of > the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 > but have not found a > report. > > Thanks in advance, > > Phil Salter > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.