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1. 05:02 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (Stephen Fox)
2. 05:34 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (Roger Kemp)
3. 06:39 AM - Smoke System (Doug Zeissner)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (David McGirt)
5. 07:09 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (David McGirt)
6. 10:02 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (Cliff Coy)
7. 10:39 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (Roger Kemp)
8. 10:41 AM - Re: Smoke System (Roger Kemp)
9. 10:46 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (ByronMFox@aol.com)
10. 11:14 AM - Smoking Airplanes Smoke System (Elmar)
11. 11:26 AM - Re: Smoke System Warning (Jeff Pritchard)
12. 11:42 AM - Smoking Airplanes Smoke System (Elmar)
13. 12:13 PM - IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? (Drew Blahnick)
14. 01:32 PM - Re: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
15. 01:48 PM - Re: Smoking Airplanes Smoke System (cjpilot710@aol.com)
16. 01:55 PM - Re: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? (viperdoc)
17. 02:10 PM - Re: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
18. 03:22 PM - Re: Smoke System Warning (Jetj01@aol.com)
19. 03:30 PM - YAK 50- for sale!!!! (Jetj01@aol.com)
20. 05:20 PM - Re: YAK 50- for sale!!!! (Buzzard Aviation)
21. 08:30 PM - Re: Smoke System WarningSmoke System Warning (Cornel Gazdaru)
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Viper Doc
I know a number guys with The Smoking Airplane System, including
myself, who have had zero problems. I had one small leak of my own
doing. However, I am going to suggest to John at Smoking Airplanes
that he change all his fittings over to ANR, as I have done. The
vibrations in the Yak may just be too much for plastic.
Steve
On May 22, 2007, at 12:25 AM, viperdoc wrote:
> Well that rules out smoking airplane as the manufacturer of my
> future smoke
> system.
> So who else out there makes a reasonable system for a YAK-50?
> Doc Kemp
>
Stephen Fox
Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer
thinkx Intellectual Capital
Think Exponentially
308 Columbus Ave. #2
Boston, MA 02116
http://www.thinkxic.com
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Cell: 603.547.0448
SKYPE: jstephenfox
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Pappy and Steve,
Thanks. It may be better to make my own since I can fit it in the hell hole
very easily and not affect the cg hardly at all since it near the spar.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
In a message dated 5/22/2007 12:27:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
I do not know what smoking gun s(whoever) charges for their stuff, but I am
will to bet you can build you own for almost the same price. The most
expensive item would be the pump, particularly if you go to an STC'd
aircraft fuel pump. You may want one that runs on 24V (pricey) but you can
find no aircraft rated pumps, much cheaper.
Figure out where you want to mount the smoke oil tank. Make a card board
model with scissor and masking type. Figure how you'd want to mount it and
where would be the best place for a filler point. Take the model to almost
any welding shop and have them weld it up out of .040 aluminum. Your tank
does not have to be large. Mine holds a little over 5 gals. I made it the
exact same size as the old ADF box and mounted it on the same rack. The
tank and oil weight less than the ADF did so the rack will hold it (and has
now for over 500 hours) just fine. 5 gals last long enough for most any
show.
I found a RED tagged 24v fuel pump that ran, but the bearings were bad.
Since this in NOT a safety of flight item, it service its purpose fine. It
was very inexpensive. Common auto fuel hose from NAPA and simple hose
clamps, the hose runs for the tank, to the pump, to a though the fire wall T
fitting. From there I use high press, stainless steel covered flexible hose
to the exhaust stacks.
Than all you need is a switch and wire to run the pump.
BTW. You can clean out the belly of the CJ fairly easy. Get some "Gunk" or
other good degreaser. Mix it 1/4 degreaser to 3/4 mineral spirits. Remove
the ADF cover on the belly. Have someone hang on the tail skip while you
put a couple of 2x4s under the nose wheel. Now spray inside the airframe.
Now rinse out with copious amounts of fresh water. You will not need high
water pressure, just let the water flow out. Just don't go spraying water
on electrical stuff of course. Leave her in the sun for a few hours, and
she'll dry out nicely.
Smoke oil can be messy but it usually does not hurt the airframe.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Well that rules out smoking airplane as the manufacturer of my future smoke
system.
So who else out there makes a reasonable system for a YAK-50?
Doc Kemp
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Group,
End of 2005 I had a "Smoking Airplanes" smoke
system installed in my CJ by a reputable AMO.
Today in the afternoon the cheap plastic elbow
near (and due) that heavy brass valve cracked
and the inside of my airplane is a living mess,
smoke oil everywhere.
So far for the MIL SPEC PARTS, now I am the
guy who is steaming - I do not need a smoke
system anymore.
I need a drink now.............
cheers
Elmar (C-FTKL)
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Check with Vladimir at Ramona. He is putting together a smoke system for
my CJ that will cost the same as the Smoking Airplanes one.
His system will have an easy way to fill the smoke oil tank and will be
assembled from aircraft grade hardware throughout.
Doug Zeissner
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Talk to Tim Williams - he has the list of parts and pumps we are using in 3
TW's , 1 CJ, and a couple straight Yak's.. simple stuff, aviation grade
parts, and economical.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Pappy and Steve,
Thanks. It may be better to make my own since I can fit it in the hell hole
very easily and not affect the cg hardly at all since it near the spar.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
In a message dated 5/22/2007 12:27:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
I do not know what smoking gun s(whoever) charges for their stuff, but I am
will to bet you can build you own for almost the same price. The most
expensive item would be the pump, particularly if you go to an STC'd
aircraft fuel pump. You may want one that runs on 24V (pricey) but you can
find no aircraft rated pumps, much cheaper.
Figure out where you want to mount the smoke oil tank. Make a card board
model with scissor and masking type. Figure how you'd want to mount it and
where would be the best place for a filler point. Take the model to almost
any welding shop and have them weld it up out of .040 aluminum. Your tank
does not have to be large. Mine holds a little over 5 gals. I made it the
exact same size as the old ADF box and mounted it on the same rack. The
tank and oil weight less than the ADF did so the rack will hold it (and has
now for over 500 hours) just fine. 5 gals last long enough for most any
show.
I found a RED tagged 24v fuel pump that ran, but the bearings were bad.
Since this in NOT a safety of flight item, it service its purpose fine. It
was very inexpensive. Common auto fuel hose from NAPA and simple hose
clamps, the hose runs for the tank, to the pump, to a though the fire wall T
fitting. From there I use high press, stainless steel covered flexible hose
to the exhaust stacks.
Than all you need is a switch and wire to run the pump.
BTW. You can clean out the belly of the CJ fairly easy. Get some "Gunk" or
other good degreaser. Mix it 1/4 degreaser to 3/4 mineral spirits. Remove
the ADF cover on the belly. Have someone hang on the tail skip while you
put a couple of 2x4s under the nose wheel. Now spray inside the airframe.
Now rinse out with copious amounts of fresh water. You will not need high
water pressure, just let the water flow out. Just don't go spraying water
on electrical stuff of course. Leave her in the sun for a few hours, and
she'll dry out nicely.
Smoke oil can be messy but it usually does not hurt the airframe.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Well that rules out smoking airplane as the manufacturer of my future smoke
system.
So who else out there makes a reasonable system for a YAK-50?
Doc Kemp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Group,
End of 2005 I had a "Smoking Airplanes" smoke
system installed in my CJ by a reputable AMO.
Today in the afternoon the cheap plastic elbow
near (and due) that heavy brass valve cracked
and the inside of my airplane is a living mess,
smoke oil everywhere.
So far for the MIL SPEC PARTS, now I am the
guy who is steaming - I do not need a smoke
system anymore.
I need a drink now.............
cheers
Elmar (C-FTKL)
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Here is a picture of that system at work..
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McGirt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Talk to Tim Williams - he has the list of parts and pumps we are using in 3
TW's , 1 CJ, and a couple straight Yak's.. simple stuff, aviation grade
parts, and economical.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Pappy and Steve,
Thanks. It may be better to make my own since I can fit it in the hell hole
very easily and not affect the cg hardly at all since it near the spar.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
In a message dated 5/22/2007 12:27:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
I do not know what smoking gun s(whoever) charges for their stuff, but I am
will to bet you can build you own for almost the same price. The most
expensive item would be the pump, particularly if you go to an STC'd
aircraft fuel pump. You may want one that runs on 24V (pricey) but you can
find no aircraft rated pumps, much cheaper.
Figure out where you want to mount the smoke oil tank. Make a card board
model with scissor and masking type. Figure how you'd want to mount it and
where would be the best place for a filler point. Take the model to almost
any welding shop and have them weld it up out of .040 aluminum. Your tank
does not have to be large. Mine holds a little over 5 gals. I made it the
exact same size as the old ADF box and mounted it on the same rack. The
tank and oil weight less than the ADF did so the rack will hold it (and has
now for over 500 hours) just fine. 5 gals last long enough for most any
show.
I found a RED tagged 24v fuel pump that ran, but the bearings were bad.
Since this in NOT a safety of flight item, it service its purpose fine. It
was very inexpensive. Common auto fuel hose from NAPA and simple hose
clamps, the hose runs for the tank, to the pump, to a though the fire wall T
fitting. From there I use high press, stainless steel covered flexible hose
to the exhaust stacks.
Than all you need is a switch and wire to run the pump.
BTW. You can clean out the belly of the CJ fairly easy. Get some "Gunk" or
other good degreaser. Mix it 1/4 degreaser to 3/4 mineral spirits. Remove
the ADF cover on the belly. Have someone hang on the tail skip while you
put a couple of 2x4s under the nose wheel. Now spray inside the airframe.
Now rinse out with copious amounts of fresh water. You will not need high
water pressure, just let the water flow out. Just don't go spraying water
on electrical stuff of course. Leave her in the sun for a few hours, and
she'll dry out nicely.
Smoke oil can be messy but it usually does not hurt the airframe.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Well that rules out smoking airplane as the manufacturer of my future smoke
system.
So who else out there makes a reasonable system for a YAK-50?
Doc Kemp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Group,
End of 2005 I had a "Smoking Airplanes" smoke
system installed in my CJ by a reputable AMO.
Today in the afternoon the cheap plastic elbow
near (and due) that heavy brass valve cracked
and the inside of my airplane is a living mess,
smoke oil everywhere.
So far for the MIL SPEC PARTS, now I am the
guy who is steaming - I do not need a smoke
system anymore.
I need a drink now.............
cheers
Elmar (C-FTKL)
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Or if you want to go whole hog....
Cheers,
Cliff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5_K7exnVys
David McGirt wrote:
> Here is a picture of that system at work..
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McGirt
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:47 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
>
>
>
> Talk to Tim Williams - he has the list of parts and pumps we are using
> in 3 TW's , 1 CJ, and a couple straight Yak's.. simple stuff, aviation
> grade parts, and economical.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:32 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
>
>
>
> Pappy and Steve,
>
> Thanks. It may be better to make my own since I can fit it in the hell
> hole very easily and not affect the cg hardly at all since it near the
> spar.
>
> Doc
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *cjpilot710@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:22 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/22/2007 12:27:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
>
>
>
> I do not know what smoking gun s(whoever) charges for their stuff, but
> I am will to bet you can build you own for almost the same price. The
> most expensive item would be the pump, particularly if you go to an
> STC'd aircraft fuel pump. You may want one that runs on 24V (pricey)
> but you can find no aircraft rated pumps, much cheaper.
>
>
>
> Figure out where you want to mount the smoke oil tank. Make a card
> board model with scissor and masking type. Figure how you'd want to
> mount it and where would be the best place for a filler point. Take
> the model to almost any welding shop and have them weld it up out of
> .040 aluminum. Your tank does not have to be large. Mine holds a
> little over 5 gals. I made it the exact same size as the old ADF box
> and mounted it on the same rack. The tank and oil weight less than
> the ADF did so the rack will hold it (and has now for over 500 hours)
> just fine. 5 gals last long enough for most any show.
>
>
>
> I found a RED tagged 24v fuel pump that ran, but the bearings were
> bad. Since this in NOT a safety of flight item, it service its
> purpose fine. It was very inexpensive. Common auto fuel hose from NAPA
> and simple hose clamps, the hose runs for the tank, to the pump, to a
> though the fire wall T fitting. From there I use high press,
> stainless steel covered flexible hose to the exhaust stacks.
>
>
>
> Than all you need is a switch and wire to run the pump.
>
>
>
> BTW. You can clean out the belly of the CJ fairly easy. Get some
> "Gunk" or other good degreaser. Mix it 1/4 degreaser to 3/4 mineral
> spirits. Remove the ADF cover on the belly. Have someone hang on the
> tail skip while you put a couple of 2x4s under the nose wheel. Now
> spray inside the airframe. Now rinse out with copious amounts of
> fresh water. You will not need high water pressure, just let the
> water flow out. Just don't go spraying water on electrical stuff of
> course. Leave her in the sun for a few hours, and she'll dry out nicely.
>
>
>
> Smoke oil can be messy but it usually does not hurt the airframe.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
>
>
> Well that rules out smoking airplane as the manufacturer of my
> future smoke
> system.
> So who else out there makes a reasonable system for a YAK-50?
> Doc Kemp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
>
>
>
> Group,
>
> End of 2005 I had a "Smoking Airplanes" smoke
> system installed in my CJ by a reputable AMO.
> Today in the afternoon the cheap plastic elbow
> near (and due) that heavy brass valve cracked
> and the inside of my airplane is a living mess,
> smoke oil everywhere.
> So far for the MIL SPEC PARTS, now I am the
> guy who is steaming - I do not need a smoke
> system anymore.
>
> I need a drink now.............
>
> cheers
>
> Elmar (C-FTKL)
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If I can get him to answer his cell phone or his email, I will. May just
have to fly over there on a regualar basis circling his hanger until I catch
him home! Damned early retirement must be great! What did I do wrong.oh
forgot.agreed to accept BC/BS PMD and Medicare! F*&$#^@! Thieves!
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McGirt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Talk to Tim Williams - he has the list of parts and pumps we are using in 3
TW's , 1 CJ, and a couple straight Yak's.. simple stuff, aviation grade
parts, and economical.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Pappy and Steve,
Thanks. It may be better to make my own since I can fit it in the hell hole
very easily and not affect the cg hardly at all since it near the spar.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
In a message dated 5/22/2007 12:27:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
I do not know what smoking gun s(whoever) charges for their stuff, but I am
will to bet you can build you own for almost the same price. The most
expensive item would be the pump, particularly if you go to an STC'd
aircraft fuel pump. You may want one that runs on 24V (pricey) but you can
find no aircraft rated pumps, much cheaper.
Figure out where you want to mount the smoke oil tank. Make a card board
model with scissor and masking type. Figure how you'd want to mount it and
where would be the best place for a filler point. Take the model to almost
any welding shop and have them weld it up out of .040 aluminum. Your tank
does not have to be large. Mine holds a little over 5 gals. I made it the
exact same size as the old ADF box and mounted it on the same rack. The
tank and oil weight less than the ADF did so the rack will hold it (and has
now for over 500 hours) just fine. 5 gals last long enough for most any
show.
I found a RED tagged 24v fuel pump that ran, but the bearings were bad.
Since this in NOT a safety of flight item, it service its purpose fine. It
was very inexpensive. Common auto fuel hose from NAPA and simple hose
clamps, the hose runs for the tank, to the pump, to a though the fire wall T
fitting. From there I use high press, stainless steel covered flexible hose
to the exhaust stacks.
Than all you need is a switch and wire to run the pump.
BTW. You can clean out the belly of the CJ fairly easy. Get some "Gunk" or
other good degreaser. Mix it 1/4 degreaser to 3/4 mineral spirits. Remove
the ADF cover on the belly. Have someone hang on the tail skip while you
put a couple of 2x4s under the nose wheel. Now spray inside the airframe.
Now rinse out with copious amounts of fresh water. You will not need high
water pressure, just let the water flow out. Just don't go spraying water
on electrical stuff of course. Leave her in the sun for a few hours, and
she'll dry out nicely.
Smoke oil can be messy but it usually does not hurt the airframe.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Well that rules out smoking airplane as the manufacturer of my future smoke
system.
So who else out there makes a reasonable system for a YAK-50?
Doc Kemp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Group,
End of 2005 I had a "Smoking Airplanes" smoke
system installed in my CJ by a reputable AMO.
Today in the afternoon the cheap plastic elbow
near (and due) that heavy brass valve cracked
and the inside of my airplane is a living mess,
smoke oil everywhere.
So far for the MIL SPEC PARTS, now I am the
guy who is steaming - I do not need a smoke
system anymore.
I need a drink now.............
cheers
Elmar (C-FTKL)
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Zeissner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Smoke System
Check with Vladimir at Ramona. He is putting together a smoke system for my
CJ that will cost the same as the Smoking Airplanes one.
His system will have an easy way to fill the smoke oil tank and will be
assembled from aircraft grade hardware throughout.
Doug Zeissner
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| Subject: | Re: Smoke System Warning |
Once again, John at Smoking Airplanes has responded as I knew he would. Never
met a man more sincere about his product. You can absolutely trust him to do
the right thing.
His system in my CJ has operated flawlessly for more than three years with
its original plastic elbow.
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| Subject: | Smoking Airplanes Smoke System |
Smokers and Non-Smokers,
today in the morning I received
a call from John (Smoking Airplanes
Manufactoring) regarding my little
incident yesterday with the cracked
elbow fitting.
Very nice guy to deal with. He promised
to replace the fittings with aluminium ones
(at no charge) and the gasket in the screw
cap.
So, now I am going to the airport and using
Jim's method to clean the inside of my rear
fuselage, thanks again Jim for your help.
Regards
Elmar
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| Subject: | Smoke System Warning |
I just visited with John about a system for my CJ. Due to the problem with
Linedog's CJ, he now provides metal fittings for all of his systems.
Fiddler
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:44 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke System Warning
Once again, John at Smoking Airplanes has responded as I knew he would.
Never met a man more sincere about his product. You can absolutely trust him
to do the right thing.
His system in my CJ has operated flawlessly for more than three years with
its original plastic elbow.
....Blitz
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| Subject: | Smoking Airplanes Smoke System |
Smokers and Non-Smokers,
today in the morning I received
a call from John (Smoking Airplanes
Manufactoring) regarding my little
incident yesterday with the cracked
elbow fitting.
Very nice guy to deal with. He promised
to replace the fittings with aluminium ones
(at no charge) and the gasket in the screw
cap.
So, now I am going to the airport and using
Jim's method to clean the inside of my rear
fuselage, thanks again Jim for your help.
Regards
Elmar
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| Subject: | IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? |
Folks,
Looking to open up panel space by going with a BECKER ATC-44001-175 transponder,
these are the small 2 1/4 inche round whole instrucments.
Anyone used one, ANY issues with durability, signal, quality control???
I realize that display of becker instrucments has caused some issues with readability
ini certain lighting....
thanks for direct off list feedback if able (I will monitor list as well for
responses)
Drew
Drew A. Blahnick
RPA President
www.flyredstar.org
V.954.636.7560
F.305.675.3940
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| Subject: | IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? |
Drew I would recommend the Becker unit that has the remote R/T, with the
small in panel control panel mount. I have tested this unit and have
seen sensitivity of -76 dBm, and output power between 200 & 250 watts.
Good side lobe supression, and a very high reply rate under heavy use
without power fade.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 13:21
Subject: Yak-List: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks?
Folks,
Looking to open up panel space by going with a BECKER ATC-44001-175
transponder, these are the small 2 1/4 inche round whole instrucments.
Anyone used one, ANY issues with durability, signal, quality control???
I realize that display of becker instrucments has caused some issues
with readability ini certain lighting....
thanks for direct off list feedback if able (I will monitor list as well
for responses)
Drew
Drew A. Blahnick
RPA President
www.flyredstar.org <http://www.flyredstar.org/> V.954.636.7560
F.305.675.3940
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| Subject: | Re: Smoking Airplanes Smoke System |
In a message dated 5/22/2007 2:16:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tamara_b@telus.net writes:
Good out come no matter how you slices it. Wear a bathing suit. :]
Pappy.
--> Yak-List message posted by: Elmar <tamara_b@telus.net>
Smokers and Non-Smokers,
today in the morning I received
a call from John (Smoking Airplanes
Manufactoring) regarding my little
incident yesterday with the cracked
elbow fitting.
Very nice guy to deal with. He promised
to replace the fittings with aluminium ones
(at no charge) and the gasket in the screw
cap.
So, now I am going to the airport and using
Jim's method to clean the inside of my rear
fuselage, thanks again Jim for your help.
Regards
Elmar
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| Subject: | IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? |
Have not one but two. With the backlight function in use, I have not seen a
visibility issue. The one in the 52 has been in use for 3.5 years without a
hiccup. The 50's has been in for a year now without a hiccup. Not complaints
from ATC either. When I ask for an altitude check they have been dead on.
Hope this helps,
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks?
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Drew I would recommend the Becker unit that has the remote R/T, with the
small in panel control panel mount. I have tested this unit and have
seen sensitivity of -76 dBm, and output power between 200 & 250 watts.
Good side lobe supression, and a very high reply rate under heavy use
without power fade.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 13:21
Subject: Yak-List: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks?
Folks,
Looking to open up panel space by going with a BECKER ATC-44001-175
transponder, these are the small 2 1/4 inche round whole instrucments.
Anyone used one, ANY issues with durability, signal, quality control???
I realize that display of becker instrucments has caused some issues
with readability ini certain lighting....
thanks for direct off list feedback if able (I will monitor list as well
for responses)
Drew
Drew A. Blahnick
RPA President
www.flyredstar.org <http://www.flyredstar.org/> V.954.636.7560
F.305.675.3940
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| Subject: | Re: IS Becker Transponder a good bet for CJ/Yaks? |
In a message dated 5/22/2007 3:14:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lacloudchaser@yahoo.com writes:
Years ago I rebuilt a Tri-Champ and replaced a Superhomer (15 lbs) with a
Becker VHF transceiver/intercom (2.2 lbs). Its only drawback was it only put
out about 3 wats power (That was in the mid 80's). Mine never gave me any
problems. Becker has an excellent reputation. At the time they were not well
known in the US but widely used in Europe. They made most of their market in
marine radios. Not the small boat stuff, but the large ship/ tanker
industry. A number of governments over there were buying their com equipment from
Becker. The first of these small radios started showing up first in the German
glider market in which they fit that niche perfectly.
A transponder is something you not staring at constantly. The only time you
need look at it is when you need to change it, which even in an IFR
environment isn't often. That might be the least of your worries. I think I'd
check
out and compare the power ratings.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Folks,
Looking to open up panel space by going with a BECKER ATC-44001-175
transponder, these are the small 2 1/4 inche round whole instrucments.
Anyone used one, ANY issues with durability, signal, quality control???
I realize that display of becker instrucments has caused some issues with
readability ini certain lighting....
thanks for direct off list feedback if able (I will monitor list as well for
responses)
Drew
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RPA President
_www.flyredstar.org_ (http://www.flyredstar.org/)
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F.305.675.3940
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| Subject: | Re: Smoke System Warning |
As has ours in the YAK 50s. Since we know the YAKs/CJs do vibrate a lot and
have greater Gs to them than average, I'd recommend checking over them every
few hours and making sure everything is still airworthy. I never read
anything on the smoke system instructions that said, "Fly and forget..."
Jj
YAK 50
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| Subject: | YAK 50- for sale!!!! |
Recently imported and FAA Certified May 07 1984 YAK 50. Only 55 TTAF.
Beautiful, original, unmolested airframe. $79K. See as advertised on
Barnstormers. Questions answered off list and feel free to call 940-613-2797
Wish someone from the North Texas area would buy it so I had someone to fly
with in my YAK 50!
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| Subject: | Re: YAK 50- for sale!!!! |
At 23:30 22/05/2007, Jetj01@aol.com wrote:
>Recently imported and FAA Certified May 07 1984 YAK 50. Only 55
>TTAF. Beautiful, original, unmolested airframe. $79K. See as
>advertised on Barnstormers. Questions answered off list and feel
>free to call 940-613-2797
>
>Wish someone from the North Texas area would buy it so I had someone
>to fly with in my YAK 50!
You could buy it for me and I'll move from UK to Witchita >:-}
Happy Landings
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\O/
o'o Martin Robinson
Yak 18T HA-YAV
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| Subject: | Re: Smoke System WarningSmoke System Warning |
We have a smoke system installed on Harvards Mk IV and Mk II (T6 Texans)
System is STC'd for Harvards
It has been working very well for some years now.
Just made and installed new smoke injectors out of Nickel alloy to
replace the old stainless parts that were corroding and burning too fast
All fittings AN type. Decent pump @ 12 V. 24V with DC converter. Both
options tested, installed and operational.
5 gal smoke tank under the back seat on Harvards - smokes for about 5 min.
May have to be redesigned to fit into a YAK. I can help with that
Contact me off list for details
Cornel
cgazdaru@aeromechanica.ca
416-671-2901
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