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1. 04:25 AM - Re: Travel Pods.... (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: Travel Pods.... (David McGirt)
3. 06:41 AM - Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment (Richard Goode)
4. 06:41 AM - FW-190 Blades (Richard Goode)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: Travel Pods.... (Roger Kemp)
6. 06:59 AM - Re: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 07:05 AM - Re: Travel Pods.... (Roger Kemp)
8. 07:25 AM - Re: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment (Richard Goode)
9. 07:32 AM - Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
10. 07:56 AM - Re: Travel Pods.... (Dale)
11. 08:25 AM - Re: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment (Rob Kent)
12. 08:26 AM - Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) (flir47)
13. 09:00 AM - Re: FW-190 Blades (tjyak50)
14. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Travel Pods.... (viperdoc)
15. 09:25 AM - Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) (tjyak50)
16. 11:10 AM - Re: Travel Pods.... (Dale)
17. 11:43 AM - Carb adjustment instructions ()
18. 12:47 PM - All Red Star (Stephen Fox)
19. 01:03 PM - Re: FW-190 Blades (flir47)
20. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: FW-190 Blades (Jan Mevis)
21. 01:38 PM - Re: Yak wheel covers! (flir47)
22. 02:34 PM - Re: Carb adjustment instructions (Yak Pilot)
23. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) (Yak Pilot)
24. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Yak wheel covers! (Roger Kemp)
25. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Travel Pods.... (Roger Kemp)
26. 04:52 PM - Re: Yak wheel covers! (flir47)
27. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Yak wheel covers! (Roger Kemp)
28. 11:33 PM - Official Yak-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
29. 11:39 PM - Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Travel Pods.... |
Why a travel pod Tim, which I assume you mean an external pod? Since you
have so much room above the fuel tanks etc., why not fabricate a way to hang
a soft baggage (read "bag") compartment with a zipper end in it which can be
attached when necessary and removed when you're not flying cross country?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Travel Pods....
>
> I am probably going to get lit up for this but....
>
> With the limited capacity for cargo we have on these airplanes, has anyone
> considered a travel pod like the mi folks use?
>
> There are some options for the -50 which I am pursuing as we speak. But do
> the -52's suffer from the same problems?
>
> What are some potential draw backs?
>
> CG
> Mounting
> Weight
> buds will laugh at you
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115877#115877
>
>
>
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Am I the only guy picturing underwear and clothes being dispersed over some
nice farm house in route one day?
:)
Great ideas..
David
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Travel Pods....
Tim,
I've seen a number of Yak 52s with center line fuel tanks. A travel pod
mounted in the same area would work as well. C/G is not to effected if you
keep the travel pod's C/G very close to the aircraft's C/G.
Drag is always a factor. How much mainly depends on how big the pod is.
Pod diameter has more of a drag factor than length. The bigger around you
make it the more drag. I had six 2" x 4' rockets mounted under my wings.
Total weight was 8 lbs. I could not measure the drag they caused. However
when I put two 10" x 4' bombs (copies of Jap Type 97 GPB) which weighted 7
pounds each, the drag was quite noticeable.
Build it light. Design it to remove easily. Put on performance
restrictions (no acro, < 2 gs or IAS limit) in effect as long as pod is on.
Dennis could give you the best mounting points. You do not have to get to
elaborate to accomplish what you need.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
_____
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| Subject: | Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment |
The principal carburettor adjustment to control temperature is that of
the compensating jets. Since they are compensating, a smaller jet
gives a slightly richer mixture.
These are available in 0.1 mm increments from, I think, 1.1 mm up to 2.2
mm. Obviously most aircraft work somewhere in the middle.
Rob Kent e-mail rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk has sets of jets.
Essentially you should set the engine up as lean as possible, but within
the constraint that it does not overheat during any normal operation.
Separately, I notice that very few M14Ps are properly set up, mainly
because so few people in the West know how to adjust the carburettors.
It is well written up in the M14P manual, but is difficult to do in
practice, since the adjustments are very small, and effect each other.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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The important point is that these blades have not undergone a full
vibration analysis, nor have they been certificated.
In addition they are not recommended for anything apart from gentle
aerobatics.
MT, are a particularly responsible company, and do not want to see their
propellers being used for purposes other than those for which they are
sold!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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Tim,
Have you filled the Hell Hole up in the 50? You can make a cargo bag out of
an A4 bag. Get life support or one of the riggers sew 4 heavy dog ears on
the side of the bag and put eyelets in the dog ears. To make it real strong
chris cross the dog ears by making them the length of the side of the A4
bag. Now all you have to do is use some carabiners (sp) to hook it to the
bulk head in front of the fuel tanks. Once you stuff what you want in the
bag, secure the zipper with a zip tie.
If the A4 bag can handle our TMO guys and Loads, they sure as heck ought to
be able to handle the 50. Granted you are not going to G it up with it on
board.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Travel Pods....
I am probably going to get lit up for this but....
With the limited capacity for cargo we have on these airplanes, has anyone
considered a travel pod like the mi folks use?
There are some options for the -50 which I am pursuing as we speak. But do
the -52's suffer from the same problems?
What are some potential draw backs?
CG
Mounting
Weight
buds will laugh at you
Thoughts?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115877#115877
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment |
Richard, The M14P carburetor manual does not use the term "compensating
jets". There are 3 jets listed which have multiple jet sizes. They
are: the Suction jet; the Acceleration pump jet; and the Fuel Jet .
Which of these three jets are you calling the compensating jet? Only
the Suction jet sizes comes close to the sizes you mention; ie: 1.3 mm
to 2.0 mm. The Fuel jet is either 3.2 to 3.3 mm and the acceleration
pump jet is .9 to 1.4 mm. Why do you call it the compensating jet?
What is it compensating for?
Thanks for your help on this. I'm sure that many folks on the list are
wondering about this as well.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: YAK USA LIST
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment
The principal carburettor adjustment to control temperature is that of
the compensating jets. Since they are compensating, a smaller jet
gives a slightly richer mixture.
These are available in 0.1 mm increments from, I think, 1.1 mm up to
2.2 mm. Obviously most aircraft work somewhere in the middle.
Rob Kent e-mail rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk has sets of jets.
Essentially you should set the engine up as lean as possible, but
within the constraint that it does not overheat during any normal
operation.
Separately, I notice that very few M14Ps are properly set up, mainly
because so few people in the West know how to adjust the carburettors.
It is well written up in the M14P manual, but is difficult to do in
practice, since the adjustments are very small, and effect each other.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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Talon,
Have seen ours survive 6 g breaks without shucking. If someone is going to
make a travel pod, I suggest they go look at how we do our hard points on
the jets and fashion them like those. Have not done it yet but have thought
about it for the 52 for a centerline fuel tank. Don't need to any longer
since the sckosh fuel issue will be resolved in the near future for the 52
using the existing internal bay.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McGirt
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Travel Pods....
Am I the only guy picturing underwear and clothes being dispersed over some
nice farm house in route one day?
:)
Great ideas..
David
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Travel Pods....
Tim,
I've seen a number of Yak 52s with center line fuel tanks. A travel pod
mounted in the same area would work as well. C/G is not to effected if you
keep the travel pod's C/G very close to the aircraft's C/G.
Drag is always a factor. How much mainly depends on how big the pod is.
Pod diameter has more of a drag factor than length. The bigger around you
make it the more drag. I had six 2" x 4' rockets mounted under my wings.
Total weight was 8 lbs. I could not measure the drag they caused. However
when I put two 10" x 4' bombs (copies of Jap Type 97 GPB) which weighted 7
pounds each, the drag was quite noticeable.
Build it light. Design it to remove easily. Put on performance
restrictions (no acro, < 2 gs or IAS limit) in effect as long as pod is on.
Dennis could give you the best mounting points. You do not have to get to
elaborate to accomplish what you need.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
_____
See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment |
=46rom Dennis's Mail,yes the Suction jet.
Russians have allways called it a "compensating" jet in that it is an air j
et,and the smaller the jet the richer the mixture.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment
Richard, The M14P carburetor manual does not use the term "compensating j
ets". There are 3 jets listed which have multiple jet sizes. They are: th
e Suction jet; the Acceleration pump jet; and the Fuel Jet . Which of thes
e three jets are you calling the compensating jet? Only the Suction jet si
zes comes close to the sizes you mention; ie: 1.3 mm to 2.0 mm. The Fuel j
et is either 3.2 to 3.3 mm and the acceleration pump jet is .9 to 1.4 mm.
Why do you call it the compensating jet? What is it compensating for?
Thanks for your help on this. I'm sure that many folks on the list are w
ondering about this as well.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: YAK USA LIST
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment
The principal carburettor adjustment to control temperature is that of
the compensating jets. Since they are compensating, a smaller jet gives a
slightly richer mixture.
These are available in 0.1 mm increments from, I think, 1.1 mm up to 2.
2 mm. Obviously most aircraft work somewhere in the middle.
Rob Kent e-mail rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk has sets of jets.
Essentially you should set the engine up as lean as possible, but withi
n the constraint that it does not overheat during any normal operation.
Separately, I notice that very few M14Ps are properly set up, mainly be
cause so few people in the West know how to adjust the carburettors.
It is well written up in the M14P manual, but is difficult to do in pra
ctice, since the adjustments are very small, and effect each other.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.c
om/Navigator?Yak-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) |
The jury is still out on these blades! I have gotten more information
that I will post as soon as the author tells me it is OK to do so. In
the meantime, let me just say that there is some seriously conflicting
information out there about these blades.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of viperdoc
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 15:49
Subject: RE: Yak-List: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other
aircraft)
Mark,
Thanks. 200 hours TBO. Forget that!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:16 PM
Subject: Yak-List: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft)
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
READ THIS TOP TO BOTTOM, DO NOT SKIP ANYTHING
I felt the same way, so I decided to look into the issue of the FW-190
prop. I know Tom loves his and feels strongly about it, and I believe
him completely.
That said, it is also always worth knowing what is on the OTHER side of
the coin. Please read the below included message from MT carefully
regarding the MW-190 blades.
Mark Bitterlich
Roger Kemp said:
Tom Johnson has one on his. Looks pretty good. What is more impressive
is the 1600 lbs + static thrust! Tom can give the exact numbers. Too
much on my feeble brain right now to remember the exact numbers he
quoted.
Doc
BELOW FIND MY LETTER TO MT PROPELLOR AND THEIR ANSWERS: (And also read
VERY cafefully their note on Time Between Overhaul for these blades!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
[SMTP:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil]
Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007 21:57
An: techsupport@mt-propeller.com
Cc: markbitterlich@earthlink.net; yakplt@yahoo.com
Betreff: FW-190 Blade
Sir,
I have received feedback of some tests made in the U.S. that claim that
the FW-190 blades on the MTV-9 Hub have have compared equal to and in
some cases better than the -29 blades when measured on a digital dynamic
load test, attached to a YAK-50 for testing.
Questions:
1. Do you feel it possible that the FW-190 blades could indeed compare
that well to the -29 blades in a recorded thrust test?
2. Are the FW-190 Blades available, or is there a large backlog on
orders with a resultantly longer wait time?
3. Can you give me a price comparison between an MTV-9 with the -29
blades and with the FW-190 blades?
4. Do you have any warnings or limitations when using the FW-190 blades
for aerobatics?
Any other general comments that you might offer comparing these two
products would be sincerely appreciated.
Best Regards,
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: Christof Grabmeier [mailto:techsupport@mt-propeller.com]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:20
Subject: AW: FW-190 Blade
Dear Mr. Bitterlich
1. Static thrust does not say anything about flight prformance, only
comparative flight testing can give an answer.
2. Delivery period will be 8 to 10 weeks for the -29 and the FW-190
blades.
3.The list price is the same for both propellers: 13700,- USD und the
spinner assy 1090,- USD.
4. No information for the -63(FW 190 blades), because we didn't carry
out vibration test with this blade. Therefore no full TBO issued, only
200 hours. 1000 hours for the -29.
Best regards
Christof Grabmeier
techsupport MT-Propeller
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| Subject: | Re: Travel Pods.... |
Doc
To get more range on fuel ,what "fix" in the fuel bay are you refering to?
Dale
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| Subject: | Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment |
The ONLY difference between the suction jet and the acceleration jet is
the
size of the hole. A 1.3mm suction jet is IDENTICAL to a 1.3mm
acceleration
jet and despite the fact that the manual states the suction jet being
1.3mm
to 2mm, I have never seen a 2mm jet. We have some original carburetor
kits
which include the jets but only up to 1.9mm.
The jets compensate the mixture ratio. i.e if with standard set up there
is
too much air in the mixture, replacing the suction jet for a smaller one
will compensate for the amount of air in the mixture.
Only the suction jet and the acceleration jet should be adjusted. The
3.2 -
3.3mm fuel jet is set during manufacture/overhaul of the carburetor and
should not be tampered with. I have the relevant part of the M14 manual
with
instructions etc for adjusting the carburetor. This is in pdf format and
I
will make this available to download asap.
As Richard points out, jets are available from stock in sizes from 0.9mm
up
to an including 1.9mm.
Rob Kent
Stores Manager
WLAC - Russian Engineering
www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk
Tel: +44 1628 829 165
Fax: +44 1628 825 975
Mob: +44 7842 964 358
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: 01 June 2007 14:59
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment
Richard, The M14P carburetor manual does not use the term "compensating
jets". There are 3 jets listed which have multiple jet sizes. They
are:
the Suction jet; the Acceleration pump jet; and the Fuel Jet . Which of
these three jets are you calling the compensating jet? Only the Suction
jet
sizes comes close to the sizes you mention; ie: 1.3 mm to 2.0 mm. The
Fuel
jet is either 3.2 to 3.3 mm and the acceleration pump jet is .9 to 1.4
mm.
Why do you call it the compensating jet? What is it compensating for?
Thanks for your help on this. I'm sure that many folks on the list are
wondering about this as well.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Cooling before shut down / carburettor adjustment
The principal carburettor adjustment to control temperature is that of
the
compensating jets. Since they are compensating, a smaller jet gives a
slightly richer mixture.
These are available in 0.1 mm increments from, I think, 1.1 mm up to 2.2
mm.
Obviously most aircraft work somewhere in the middle.
Rob Kent e-mail rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk has sets of jets.
Essentially you should set the engine up as lean as possible, but within
the
constraint that it does not overheat during any normal operation.
Separately, I notice that very few M14Ps are properly set up, mainly
because
so few people in the West know how to adjust the carburettors.
It is well written up in the M14P manual, but is difficult to do in
practice, since the adjustments are very small, and effect each other.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics
.com/
Navigator?Yak-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) |
On the "cool looking" scale...they get a 10!
--------
You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: FW-190 Blades |
Nonsense.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Travel Pods.... |
Fuel bladders. Dennis Savarese and a auto racing company are working on a
fuel bladder that replaces the fuel can along with using all the available
space for fuel. It is not quite ready for sale yet. The prototype is in my
hanger being fitted to Dennis's 52 as we speak. The kits will be available
soon.
As well, a kit for cleaning Carbon Monoxide from the cabin air in the 52, 50
and CJ will soon be available. A few airflow tests to run doing CO samplings
to get closer on finalizing the setup. To date, the best way to ensure clean
air is to supply it to an aviator's mask. One more way to look cool in the
cockpit and wear the mask for a real justifiable reason.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:56 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Travel Pods....
Doc
To get more range on fuel ,what "fix" in the fuel bay are you refering to?
Dale
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| Subject: | Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) |
The "FW" Blade is more than just cool looking.
My first hand flight experience with this prop flying against 2 blade and other
model 3 blades has been very favorable to say the least.
The following email was forwarded to me and helps to clear the waters a bit.
From: larry schlasinger
Cc: John A. Nielsen ; dwayne clemens ; Bill Blackwell ; josef.eberl@mt-propeller.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: FW 190 Propeller
Hi Mark,
Someone forwarded me the controversy on the FW-190 propeller and since this was
my original deal and I was the flight test pilot for this new propeller I thought
I'd put some things to rest. I ordered the first FW190 prop at the factory
after one of my meetings with the MT staff. This propeller had been requested
by a customer building a replica FW190 but had never been ordered or built previous
to my propeller.
I tested this first FW190 propeller on my Yak 52 as well as on my I-3, I had an
MTV-9-27 on the Yak and a -29, 260 on the I-3. I wasn't expecting equal performance
but I wanted the look for the Yak. I was pleasantly surprised to see that
the FW190 performance in flight was nearly the same as the -29 and perhaps
a bit better than the -27. Flight characteristics with the FW190 were excellent
and perhaps more predictable on the YAK than the -27. We did experience a tendency
to overspeed during flight testing with low power settings and made a change
to the counterweight angle and internal return springs. We also added the
spring to the governor we normally recommend with all MTV-9's on M14P's. This
resulted in perfect performance and no problems. I fly this propeller in airshows
and have done just about any maneuver the plane is capable of flying. As
for the TBO, this is an experimental propeller and I was never concerned about
TBO or any vibration problems. Due to the concern of some of my customers, we've
scheduled a vibration test for later in June and I'm confident, as are our
engineers, that the test will show what we expect. Assuming this to be true
we'll extent the TBO beyond 200 hours.
If you have any questions, you can call me at 715 924 4410.
Larry Schlasinger
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| Subject: | Re: Travel Pods.... |
great , I was allmost ready to try doing something on my own. I will wait to see
how the bladders come out. I was aware of sealing off the leading edge for
more space.
Dale
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| Subject: | Carb adjustment instructions |
Anyone interested in the instructions for adjusting the carb can find them on the
link below.
http://nelsonit.net/~rob/Yak52carb.pdf
The instructions are taken from the english M14P maintenacne manual. They cover
idle adjustment, adjustment at main ratings, adjustment of altitude control and
adjustment of the acceleration pump.
Rob Kent
Stores Manager
WLAC - Russian Engineering
www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk
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Need some help. Does anybody on the list who was at All Red Star or
the individual remember who won most authentic Yak?
Thanks
Stephen Fox
Consulting Partner/Facilitator & Trainer
thinkx Intellectual Capital
Think Exponentially
308 Columbus Ave. #2
Boston, MA 02116
http://www.thinkxic.com
email: steve.fox@thinkxic.com
Direct: 603.924.8660
Cell: 603.547.0448
SKYPE: jstephenfox
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| Subject: | Re: FW-190 Blades |
tjyak50 wrote:
> Nonsense.
Now Now Tom..you should know by now that airplanes fly on bureaucratic BS, and
not solid facts. It must be certified! How dare we (Americans) try something new..
And worse yet.. experimental!
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| Subject: | Re: FW-190 Blades |
Sorry guys, but why use this list to ventilate the differences in approach between
Europeans and Americans ?
I am certain that the opinion of a German engineer to limit the TBO to 200 hours
for the FW190 prop has NOTHING to do with bureaucratic reflexes. And personally
I DO admire al those bold Americans who try things that we MUST NOT do here
in Europe (or at least in some countries in Europe).
Please don't let this list evolve to political issues. This list is followed by
Yak-, Sukhoi- and CJ-pilots from everywhere. I personnaly read this list every
day with great interest because it allowed me to learn a lot, and although being
only a novice Yak 50 pilot, it helped me solve quite some problems.
With all due respect and many thanks to the input of so many,
Jan Mevis
RA2005K
YK50
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flir47
Sent: vrijdag 1 juni 2007 22:03
Subject: Yak-List: Re: FW-190 Blades
tjyak50 wrote:
> Nonsense.
Now Now Tom..you should know by now that airplanes fly on bureaucratic BS, and
not solid facts. It must be certified! How dare we (Americans) try something new..
And worse yet.. experimental!
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
Well here is what the look like. Bteer cooling and I think it looks better.
Maybe more drag in the air. [/img][url]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/88turboGT/DSC03000.jpg
[/url]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/88turboGT/DSC02999.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Carb adjustment instructions |
Rob!
THANK YOU FOR THIS REFERENCE!
Mark Bitterlich
rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk wrote:
Anyone interested in the instructions for adjusting the carb can find them on the
link below.
http://nelsonit.net/~rob/Yak52carb.pdf
The instructions are taken from the english M14P maintenacne manual. They cover
idle adjustment, adjustment at main ratings, adjustment of altitude control and
adjustment of the acceleration pump.
Rob Kent
Stores Manager
WLAC - Russian Engineering
www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: MT FW-190 Blades on Tom's YAK-50 (and other aircraft) |
Tom, I was going to ask Larry before I posted his message, but regardless, the
fact is that you are correct. His message is very illuminating and explains a
lot.
What I can not understand at all is why MT would not say it first. It seems
that you have been right all along about this blades performance, but I do admit
that I like to see test pilots weighing in with their flight experiences as
well as static tests.
Mark Bitterlich
tjyak50 <tomjohnson@cox.net> wrote:
The "FW" Blade is more than just cool looking.
My first hand flight experience with this prop flying against 2 blade and other
model 3 blades has been very favorable to say the least.
The following email was forwarded to me and helps to clear the waters a bit.
From: larry schlasinger
Cc: John A. Nielsen ; dwayne clemens ; Bill Blackwell ; josef.eberl@mt-propeller.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: FW 190 Propeller
Hi Mark,
Someone forwarded me the controversy on the FW-190 propeller and since this was
my original deal and I was the flight test pilot for this new propeller I thought
I'd put some things to rest. I ordered the first FW190 prop at the factory
after one of my meetings with the MT staff. This propeller had been requested
by a customer building a replica FW190 but had never been ordered or built previous
to my propeller.
I tested this first FW190 propeller on my Yak 52 as well as on my I-3, I had an
MTV-9-27 on the Yak and a -29, 260 on the I-3. I wasn't expecting equal performance
but I wanted the look for the Yak. I was pleasantly surprised to see that
the FW190 performance in flight was nearly the same as the -29 and perhaps
a bit better than the -27. Flight characteristics with the FW190 were excellent
and perhaps more predictable on the YAK than the -27. We did experience a tendency
to overspeed during flight testing with low power settings and made a change
to the counterweight angle and internal return springs. We also added the
spring to the governor we normally recommend with all MTV-9's on M14P's. This
resulted in perfect performance and no problems. I fly this propeller in airshows
and have done just about any maneuver the plane is capable of flying. As
for the TBO, this is an experimental propeller and I was never concerned about
TBO or any vibration problems. Due to the concern
!
of some of my customers, we've scheduled a vibration test for later in June and
I'm confident, as are our engineers, that the test will show what we expect.
Assuming this to be true we'll extent the TBO beyond 200 hours.
If you have any questions, you can call me at 715 924 4410.
Larry Schlasinger
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
Mark,
Did you save the dust cover from the wheels and just machine it down to a
disc to cover the grease seals (felt)?
Doc
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak wheel covers!
Well here is what the look like. Bteer cooling and I think it looks better.
Maybe more drag in the air.
[/img][url]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/88turboGT/DSC03000.jpg
[/url]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/88turboGT/DSC02999.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Travel Pods.... |
They will give an extra 10 gals per side. So we should see 25 gal per side
when all is said and done.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Travel Pods....
great , I was allmost ready to try doing something on my own. I will wait to
see how the bladders come out. I was aware of sealing off the leading edge
for more space.
Dale
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
Doc
An Imbecile owned the 50 before I got it. They replaced the wheels for some reason.
No covers! From California to Mich and only lost one felt seal. I measured
the existing holes (rivet) and cut the covers from some 2024 sheet I had lying
around. Then drilled the rivet holes and taped. Installed with SS screws. Took
about 2 hoursholds the felt in like it is supposed too. Also I can change
the felt very easy without removing the wheel. Next I plan on painting the rims
better.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak wheel covers! |
Mark,
Thanks.
Doc
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:52 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak wheel covers!
Doc
An Imbecile owned the 50 before I got it. They replaced the wheels for some reason.
No covers! From California to Mich and only lost one felt seal. I measured
the existing holes (rivet) and cut the covers from some 2024 sheet I had lying
around. Then drilled the rivet holes and taped. Installed with SS screws. Took
about 2 hoursholds the felt in like it is supposed too. Also I can change
the felt very easy without removing the wheel. Next I plan on painting the rims
better.
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| Subject: | Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Yak-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Yak-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Yak-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Yak-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Yak-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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