Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 06/07/07


Total Messages Posted: 28



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:51 AM - All Red Star VI Image Update (Tyson V. Rininger)
     2. 03:57 AM - Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (Phil Cogan)
     3. 04:58 AM - Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (Tim Gagnon)
     4. 05:07 AM - Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (Scooter)
     5. 05:20 AM - Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (Tim Gagnon)
     6. 06:29 AM - Blue Mtn (Jay Land)
     7. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     8. 07:18 AM - engine mounts (Jon Boede)
     9. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (viperdoc)
    10. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (Jim Selby)
    11. 08:48 AM - Re: engine mounts (A. Dennis Savarese)
    12. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (Herb Coussons)
    13. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (Stephen Fox)
    14. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (viperdoc)
    15. 09:28 AM - Re: engine mounts (Jon Boede)
    16. 10:33 AM - Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg (viperdoc)
    17. 12:12 PM - Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (flir47)
    18. 03:04 PM - Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (Tim Gagnon)
    19. 03:06 PM - Re: All Red Star VI Image Update (Tim Gagnon)
    20. 03:26 PM - Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (Scooter)
    21. 04:52 PM - Re: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg (Herb Coussons)
    22. 07:17 PM - Re: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg (Walter Lannon)
    23. 08:04 PM - T28/Bear 360 (MikSpin@aol.com)
    24. 08:11 PM - Re: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg (Herb Coussons)
    25. 08:19 PM - A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle..... (Tim Gagnon)
    26. 08:24 PM - Re: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle..... (Tim Gagnon)
    27. 08:26 PM - Re: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle..... (Tim Gagnon)
    28. 08:29 PM - Re: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle..... (Tim Gagnon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:51:14 AM PST US
    From: "Tyson V. Rininger" <Tyson@TVRPhotography.Com>
    Subject: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Long time lurker, first time poster...please be gentle!! For those of you who don't know me, I've been fascinated with Eastern Bloc aircraft for a few years now thanks to the Selbys. Because of the "Jim's", I've been introduced and welcomed by most of the Yak and Nanchang owners around the Western half of the U.S. and have had the fortune of flying with and photographing many of you. Once again, Barry Hancock and the gang allowed me free reign at All Red Star VI last month in Porterville, CA. Batman, Blitz, Ray O'Neal, George Wilen, Doc Sugden and Cujo allowed me to fly with them to better archive the event and I'm happy to say a full blown book is has become the result. Featuring 120 images on 80 pages, the book is an oversized 11x13 hardbound format with full color photography along with its own dust jacket. I'll be the first to admit the book is a bit pricey, but it was the only solution available without going through a publisher with a minimum 500 copy print run. After speaking to numerous professional photographers, this site was chosen unanimously for its quality. Preview: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/58151 Hopefully I'm not stealing RPA's thunder (Sorry Potus, Phil!), but for a larger preview of images from ARS VI as well as some featured in the book, you can also look here: http://www.tvrphotography.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=180 Also, congrats to Arnie Evdokimo in his L-39ZA. His aircraft above the clouds at ARS VI will be featured as the cover shot for EAA's Warbird Magazine while the four-ship lead by B-Dog will be on the back cover. Meanwhile, talks are continuing with Air & Space Smithsonian Magazine to feature additional images from ARS VI in their two-page Sightings section. Many thanks for allowing me to work with you all and learn more about the Yak n' Chang community. If you have any questions about the book, please don't hesitate to ask. I've already ordered a copy which takes about two weeks for delivery and can confirm or bash the quality...though I'm optimistic! It was great working with you all and I hope to come back again next year! Kind regards, Tyson V. Rininger


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    Time: 03:57:03 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Cogan" <zeromold@earthlink.net>
    Subject: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Tyson, Thanks for the post. Your photos are "Grade A", "Prime", and "Choice" and RPA approved. You deserve all the recognition you get. Now come to the East Coast! Please save some choice shots for Red Alert! Phil "Shortbus" Cogan You'll be seeing Tyson's work on the cover of the Summer 07 issue of Red Alert.


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    Time: 04:58:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Nice shots Tyson!!! I will even admit those T-34 interloper shots were pretty cool! What I am disappointed about is that with more than a couple of -50's there, no form shots? No shots! What gives guys? Nice work...as always! Tim N359FG Yak-50 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117031#117031


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    Time: 05:07:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
    From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    photo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117035#117035 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bear360_199.jpg


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    Time: 05:20:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Or... http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=116731 I think the airplane is kind of ugly. Plus, another M-14 gone from the hands of a Yak owner. I guess we have to learn to accept the fact that our engine rocks and everyone want one. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117037#117037


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    Time: 06:29:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Blue Mtn
    From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
    Barry Sounded like the only issue on the Blue Mtn was the cyl head probes on air start engines? Anything else not worked out? Thx, J


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    Time: 06:46:45 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Great Shots!!!!!! Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 07:18:59 AM PST US
    From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
    Subject: engine mounts
    I've noticed that the rubber in many of my engine mounts is getting pretty ratty, so I'm up for changing it out. Anybody have any experiencing doing this? We thought we'd just get a strap and lift the engine a bit and replace the ones we can get to easily, but I have that sneaking suspicion I get right before things don't go so well. :-) Jon


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    Time: 07:23:25 AM PST US
    From: "viperdoc" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Agree but way to many shots of CJ's. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update Great Shots!!!!!! Jim "Pappy" Goolsby _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .


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    Time: 08:12:15 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Selby" <alikatz@mbay.net>
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Awsome job Tyson..... ----- Original Message ----- From: viperdoc To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update Agree but way to many shots of CJ's. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:46 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update Great Shots!!!!!! Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 08:48:10 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: engine mounts
    Besides lifting the engine slightly to relieve the weight from the engine mount rubbers, I'd suggest removing the generator and the magnetos. It will make the job significantly easier. Before you remove the mags, remove any grease or oil around the base of the mag where it mates with the accessory case. Then using a Sharpie pen make 3 vertical marks between the base of the magneto and the case about 1/4" to 3/8" apart. The marks will enable you to reinstall the magnetos in precisely the same location and not have to retime the magnetos. Replace one rubber mount at a time. The attached document should help with how tight the plates, nuts and washers should be. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Yak-List: engine mounts > > I've noticed that the rubber in many of my engine mounts is getting pretty > ratty, so I'm up for changing it out. > > Anybody have any experiencing doing this? We thought we'd just get a > strap and lift the engine a bit and replace the ones we can get to easily, > but I have that sneaking suspicion I get right before things don't go so > well. :-) > > Jon > > >


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    Time: 08:59:54 AM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
    Looks like a baby T28 - scaled down. Herb On Jun 7, 2007, at 7:20 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote: > > Or... > > http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=116731 > > I think the airplane is kind of ugly. Plus, another M-14 gone from > the hands of a Yak owner. I guess we have to learn to accept the > fact that our engine rocks and everyone want one. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117037#117037 > >


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    Time: 09:03:52 AM PST US
    From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Possibly because there were more CJs than Yaks at ARS. Not unusual. On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:23 AM, viperdoc wrote: > Agree but way to many shots of CJ=92s.


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    Time: 09:25:59 AM PST US
    From: "viperdoc" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    Guess that is the reason we have more YAKs than CJ's at Red Air. Just more of them in the region. Great photos! Still working my way thru the teasers! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Fox Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update Possibly because there were more CJs than Yaks at ARS. Not unusual. On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:23 AM, viperdoc wrote: Agree but way to many shots of CJ's.


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    Time: 09:28:22 AM PST US
    From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: engine mounts
    Super-helpful, Dennis... THANKS!! >From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: engine mounts >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:45:20 -0500 > >Besides lifting the engine slightly to relieve the weight from the engine >mount rubbers, I'd suggest removing the generator and the magnetos. It >will make the job significantly easier. Before you remove the mags, remove >any grease or oil around the base of the mag where it mates with the >accessory case. Then using a Sharpie pen make 3 vertical marks between the >base of the magneto and the case about 1/4" to 3/8" apart. The marks will >enable you to reinstall the magnetos in precisely the same location and not >have to retime the magnetos. Replace one rubber mount at a time. The >attached document should help with how tight the plates, nuts and washers >should be. >Dennis > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:17 AM >Subject: Yak-List: engine mounts > > >> >>I've noticed that the rubber in many of my engine mounts is getting pretty >>ratty, so I'm up for changing it out. >> >>Anybody have any experiencing doing this? We thought we'd just get a >>strap and lift the engine a bit and replace the ones we can get to easily, >>but I have that sneaking suspicion I get right before things don't go so >>well. :-) >> >>Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> ><< DAMPERSINSTALLINGMODEL_.PDF >>


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    Time: 10:33:49 AM PST US
    From: "viperdoc" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg
    Now this is a T-28 Trojan. The Bear 360 is not really a look alike. In my humble opinion. 320 kts or not. Doc


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    Time: 12:12:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
    From: "flir47" <me262pilot@comcast.net>
    Tim Gagnon wrote: > Or... > > http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=116731 > > I think the airplane is kind of ugly. Plus, another M-14 gone from the hands of a Yak owner. I guess we have to learn to accept the fact that our engine rocks and everyone want one. Generals don't buy ugly airplanes........ -------- You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117128#117128


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    Time: 03:04:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    I helped with the condition inspection on a T-28 today and I see only a slight similarity. Wings, wheels, prop, radial, tail..... Yeah, for 200K, I would rather have a real -28 too! I don't see much of a market for that thing..but we will see. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117150#117150


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    Time: 03:06:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: All Red Star VI Image Update
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    I am not disappointed at the photogrpaher..always nice work and does a nice job of capturing these cool airplanes. I can guess where the -50 boys were! The good lord willing I will be there next year....in my airplane having flown it from my new home west of Phoenix. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117151#117151


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    Time: 03:26:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
    From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net>
    There are a few differences... 50gph to cruise in an old T-28 versus less than half that (or less?) in the new Bear. Probably handles a little different doing aerobatics too. Cool looking airplane but I don't see how it flies with those tiny wings. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117155#117155


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    Time: 04:52:37 PM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg
    Sure it does, in flight. I know the t28 is a tricycle and a monster - I have about 10 hours in them. Great ego trip to fire it off sitting 10+ feet off the ground. But the canopy, fuselage shape, square tail, side exhaust over the wing, radial, etc - very similar profile - with the gear up. Herb On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:32 PM, viperdoc wrote: > Now this is a T-28 Trojan. The Bear 360 is not really a look alike. > > In my humble opinion. 320 kts or not. > > Doc > > <T-28-4-spread-.jpg>


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    Time: 07:17:17 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg
    Who said the Bear 360 was a T28 knock off?? If it is a "knock off" of anything it is the F8F Grumman Bearcat. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg > > Sure it does, in flight. I know the t28 is a tricycle and a monster > - I have about 10 hours in them. Great ego trip to fire it off > sitting 10+ feet off the ground. > But the canopy, fuselage shape, square tail, side exhaust over the > wing, radial, etc - very similar profile - with the gear up. > > Herb > > > On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:32 PM, viperdoc wrote: > >> Now this is a T-28 Trojan. The Bear 360 is not really a look alike. >> >> In my humble opinion. 320 kts or not. >> >> Doc >> >> <T-28-4-spread-.jpg> > > > > >


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    Time: 08:04:51 PM PST US
    From: MikSpin@aol.com
    Subject: T28/Bear 360
    Hey guys, You might look at the fact that when a new aircraft design comes out, it uses the positive attributes of several different aircraft, be it in form or function. You can see the DNA of Bearcat, T28, Yak, A26, Tigercat, Aspect Ratio characteristics of some V-engine fighters, etc., all through this airplane... ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 08:11:42 PM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg
    Yeah, I can see that too - on the ground. On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Walter Lannon wrote: > <wlannon@cablerocket.com> > > Who said the Bear 360 was a T28 knock off?? If it is a "knock off" > of anything it is the F8F Grumman Bearcat. > > Walt > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emailing: T-28-4-spread-.jpg > > >> Sure it does, in flight. I know the t28 is a tricycle and a >> monster - I have about 10 hours in them. Great ego trip to fire >> it off sitting 10+ feet off the ground. >> But the canopy, fuselage shape, square tail, side exhaust over >> the wing, radial, etc - very similar profile - with the gear up. >> Herb >> On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:32 PM, viperdoc wrote: >>> Now this is a T-28 Trojan. The Bear 360 is not really a look alike. >>> >>> In my humble opinion. 320 kts or not. >>> >>> Doc >>> >>> <T-28-4-spread-.jpg> >> > >


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    Time: 08:19:59 PM PST US
    Subject: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle.....
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Since I have neither the time or money to go the Bones route, this is what I came up with. A new Yak-52 bottle and mount mounted on a new structure just forward of where the batteries were once located. Batteries were also relocated next to bottle opening up a great deal of space for new cargo space. New W&B as well. Existing plumbing was used for the most part. Less than 24 inches of new plumbing was used. (Thanks to Luke P for saving my ass with parts)The workmanship is fantastic and as solid as the rest of the airplane. The cargo space is quite large and is removable if the need arises. I simply could not find another Yak-50 bottle so this was what I had to go with. That -52 bottle may someday be replaced with a cylinder type bottle. I am very happy with the set up and it has more capacity than the original -50 bottle. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117209#117209 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc_0008_178.jpg


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    Time: 08:24:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle.....
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    And the cargo bin...I will paint it or something to clean it up a bit. But it goes all the way back to the inverter. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117211#117211 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc_0008_474.jpg


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    Time: 08:26:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle.....
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    New Yak Trunk!!! Large and removable. Goes all the way over to the inverter. I will dress it up a little bit in the future. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117213#117213 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc_0005_208.jpg


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    Time: 08:29:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A fix for the Yak-50 primary bottle.....
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    While I was looking for the pic file, I found this photo.... She was a bit of an overachiever and showed up nine weeks early. Healthy and making her dad proud every second of every day. She digs airplanes already! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117214#117214 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/syd_1st_christmas_06_2_512.jpg




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