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1. 03:53 AM - Ercoupes and warbirds (Craig Payne)
2. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
3. 08:39 PM - YAK/CJ flying this weekend in Kansas (Jetj01@aol.com)
4. 09:21 PM - Re: YAK/CJ flying this weekend in Kansas (viperdoc)
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| Subject: | Ercoupes and warbirds |
The Ercoupe used in that JATO test had to re-skinned after the flight., Burnt clean
through. One Big advantage over the P-51 though, buying an Ercoupe does not
require an expensive, mandatory divorce and the formal issuance of a Trophy
Wife like buying the P-51 does. That way you get a pair of high-maintenance flashy
lookers. That being said, I'll keep the CJ.
On the subject of Warbirds, some of today's younger Top Guns may not know of the
exploits of the Bird Dog and O-2 pilots. These guys flew many more combat missions
than the jet jocks, up close and personal, with the highest loss rates
in the Vietnam war.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod |
Wow.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 0:03
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
Screw them. The 50 and the 52 are technically warbirds. Both flown by Russia (USSR).
Contra to popular believe civilian aviation did not exist behind the iron
curtain. The DOSAFF trained future aviators for the state! There were not privately
owned aircraft flown by private pilots during the heyday of these aircraft.
Why do you think these instrumentation in these aircraft were set up like
they were? Why did they set the low speed jet up to load up the engine on final
when you get behind the power curve?
What civilian aircraft has the instrumentation in it that is set up the same as
the follow on jet trainer or the MiG or Sukio fighter. I dare say you are not
going to find percent RPM in a single civilian primary trainer on any continent.
Nor are you going to find a pressure carburetor setup to load up on base final
turn if you get behind the power curve with a sink rate on final. It was
so the fleagle would be prepared for that spool up lag time required by that turbofan
in the L-29, L-39, MIG 15, MIG 21, MIG 23 or MIG 25 to keep them from
bending one of the State's assets. Look at that brake handle you grab every time
you get ready to taxi then go look in the MIG 15 through MIG 29 pits (I have
not had the opportunity to look at the pit of any of the other newer aircraft
in their inventory). What do you see hanging on the side of that stick?
These aircraft were/are military trainers. The 50 and 52 were flown for the glory
of the State not the pleasure of the individual! The pleasure of the individual
happened only because that aviator was good enough to make the grade and
was allowed to compete for the State or fly in defense/offense of it. Even Aeroflot
was a branch of the military/KGB. I repeat, the USSR did not have a civilian
general aviation fleet. Not the fleet as we in the western world know it
to be. You got to fly an airplane because you served a purpose in the glorification
of the State.
These aircraft have every right to be in the warbird category as does any of the
French, German, Polish, English, Australian, US, Japanese, or whatever other
military trainer does.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flir47
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod
Ok.... I guess I will use the fact the Lithuanias military uses the 52 for training
to fight off the real warbird owners when they try to cave my head in for
flying a Yak.... and calling it a warbird. Then... I will try to fight off the
acro pilots that think the 50 should just be a acro plane not a warbird.
One thing for sure! They all were on me like stink on poop! I need some hard real
facts ...that I wasn't finding on the net.
All I really wanted was a $100 hamburger....instead I got flogged for flying a
Yak 50.
If I was flying a Yak9... I would have told them to shut their cake traps!
The flight home in the 50 was still fun though :D
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You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!!
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| Subject: | YAK/CJ flying this weekend in Kansas |
Any YAK/CJ or other "warbird" flyers interested...we'll be getting at least
3 YAK 50s and a CJ or 2 together for some fun flying in the Kansas area this
weekend (8K8). Anyone interested in tagging along give us a line and we'll
send you directions.
Jj
Yak 50
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| Subject: | YAK/CJ flying this weekend in Kansas |
Hummm..sounds like a happy fathers day weekend for Dave!
Dogs.have fun.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jetj01@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: Yak-List: YAK/CJ flying this weekend in Kansas
Any YAK/CJ or other "warbird" flyers interested...we'll be getting at least
3 YAK 50s and a CJ or 2 together for some fun flying in the Kansas area this
weekend (8K8). Anyone interested in tagging along give us a line and we'll
send you directions.
Jj
Yak 50
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