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1. 02:41 AM - oil temps (HodgeJW@aol.com)
2. 03:59 AM - Re: Canopy wide open (Craig Payne)
3. 04:15 AM - Re: Average yearly use. (DaBear)
4. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Oil Temps..... (Terry Lewis)
5. 06:08 AM - Re: Oil Temps..... (Tim Gagnon)
6. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: Oil Temps..... (Jon Boede)
7. 06:38 AM - Re: Oil Temps..... (Jim Bernier)
8. 07:25 AM - Re: Oil Temps..... (Jay Land)
9. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: Oil Temps..... (Terry Lewis)
10. 08:06 AM - An excellent Titanium exhaust welder (John Nafziger)
11. 08:23 AM - Re: An excellent Titanium exhaust welder (Cliff Coy)
12. 09:06 AM - Re: generator base plate for hoist (forrest johnson)
13. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: Oil Temps..... (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
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Mark,
Thanks for the input. My cyl temps are real good. Right in the middle. I
will try going a few clicks rich and see what that does.
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy wide open |
Just so happens I can provide some numbers here. My rear canopy is a little tricky
to latch, luckily I made new stops before one particular low pass at 196 KTS,
no wind, GPS. Then there was a Sun 'n Fun 60 race where that rear canopy popped
open on takeoff. Stayed open all the way, limiting my average speed to 158
KTS. During the flight I'm thinking "*&%$/*@ gear doors are hanging!
When flying on Lead's wing with Lead's canopy open or at the notch, closing the
canopy will cause the wingman to increase power to hold position.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Average yearly use. |
900 hours in 7 years in Yak-52s, CJ6As, and Yak-Chang's. (with 8 months
of no airplane)
128 hours a year average.
DaBear
Tim Gannon wrote:
>
> A friend is considering a Yak and was curious about the average time people are
putting on their birds.
>
> I put around 30 on mine last year but it was down for two months for a very extensive
annual (and the premature birth of my daughter) and then about a month
for a compressor problem.
>
> Curious what you guys are putting on your crates.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
Mark,
On the CJ the CHT adjustment is on the front.
My oil temps were accurate so I didn't look to adjust them.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: Yak Pilot
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
That is a REALLY good suggestion Terry. REALLY GOOD!!!!
Where is the adjustment, behind the gage itself?
Mark Bitterlich
Terry Lewis <talew@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Guys,
You need to be sure that your temp. probes are accurate. What I did
was use
a cup of water with a coffee heater in it and run the water up to
boil with
a probe in the water. I then adjusted the instrument to read 100 C
They
were both off about 15 C
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
Point,
> MALS-14 64E"
>
> Outside air temp is what, during these readouts?
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of napeone
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 18:13
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>
>
> My Yak 50's oil temp in the summer is mid green. The 52 is low
green.
> The cht on the 50 is cool. Bottom of green with cowl flaps open.
The 52
> is higher 180-190C. Both burn about the same amount of fuel at the
same
> power settings. No conclusions.
> David H.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
> Does not sound like a problem Tim. 170C (CHT) and 70C (oil) is right where they
should be. Can't speak to the Yak 50/52 but the CJ problem (with the Huosai)
is cold oil - barely 50C most of the time. CHT is easily controlled by the
shutters.
Those temps were in a nice leisurely cruise. In the pattern buzzing around, the
oil creeps up to 80 or 90+.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=119354#119354
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
Define "on the front"? On the front of the gauge?
And pardon me for behing half awake, but the CHT for the front seat gauge in
the CJ is around one of the #4 sparks and the CHT for the back seat gauge is
around one of the #1 cylinder spark plus, yes? I like the cup of hot water
idea a lot!
Jon
>From: "Terry Lewis" <talew@bellsouth.net>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:00:04 -0400
>
>Mark,
>On the CJ the CHT adjustment is on the front.
>My oil temps were accurate so I didn't look to adjust them.
>Terry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Yak Pilot
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>
>
> That is a REALLY good suggestion Terry. REALLY GOOD!!!!
>
> Where is the adjustment, behind the gage itself?
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
> Terry Lewis <talew@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> You need to be sure that your temp. probes are accurate. What I did
>was use
> a cup of water with a coffee heater in it and run the water up to boil
>with
> a probe in the water. I then adjusted the instrument to read 100 C
>They
> were both off about 15 C
> Terry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>
>
>Point,
> > MALS-14 64E"
> >
> > Outside air temp is what, during these readouts?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of napeone
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 18:13
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
> >
> >
> > My Yak 50's oil temp in the summer is mid green. The 52 is low
>green.
> > The cht on the 50 is cool. Bottom of green with cowl flaps open. The
>52
> > is higher 180-190C. Both burn about the same amount of fuel at the
>same
> > power settings. No conclusions.
> > David H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
Jay
When the CJ goes inverted, the oil stand pipe in the oil tank gets
filled. When it comes back to level flight this oil drains out and dumps
a few ounces of oil. If you could just get that oil to stay, or return
to the tank. problem solved. The Huosai has an atmospheric vent on top
of the supercharger. You will find a thumb screw cap in the vent tube.
Plumb the oil tank vent hose to this thumb screw opening. I took the
vent off the engine and threaded it for a * inch barbed hose fitting to
match the oil tank hose. (I seem to remember 1/2 inch?) No more leaking
oil. It has been this way for 40 hours now with no problems. It's a
quick fix that works. I have seen one other CJ with the same fix.
Jim B
>>> Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> 6/18/2007 11:31 PM >>>
Speaking of CJ's and Huosai's, has anyone figured out any oil mods
(similar
to an inverted system) to keep from puking oil all over the place when
doing
acro?
> From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:12:15 -0700
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil Temps.....
>
<wlannon@cablerocket.com>
>
> Does not sound like a problem Tim. 170C (CHT) and 70C (oil) is right
where
> they should be.
> Can't speak to the Yak 50/52 but the CJ problem (with the Huosai) is
cold
> oil - barely 50C most of the time. CHT is easily controlled by the
shutters.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:56 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Oil Temps.....
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
Good idea, thanks Jim
From: Jim Bernier <JBernier@dart.org>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil Temps.....
Jay
When the CJ goes inverted, the oil stand pipe in the oil tank gets filled.
When it comes back to level flight this oil drains out and dumps a few
ounces of oil. If you could just get that oil to stay, or return to the
tank. problem solved. The Huosai has an atmospheric vent on top of the
supercharger. You will find a thumb screw cap in the vent tube. Plumb the
oil tank vent hose to this thumb screw opening. I took the vent off the
engine and threaded it for a ? inch barbed hose fitting to match the oil
tank hose. (I seem to remember 1/2 inch?) No more leaking oil. It has been
this way for 40 hours now with no problems. It's a quick fix that works. I
have seen one other CJ with the same fix.
Jim B
>>> Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> 6/18/2007 11:31 PM >>>
Speaking of CJ's and Huosai's, has anyone figured out any oil mods (similar
to an inverted system) to keep from puking oil all over the place when doing
acro?
> From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:12:15 -0700
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil Temps.....
>
>
> Does not sound like a problem Tim. 170C (CHT) and 70C (oil) is right where
> they should be.
> Can't speak to the Yak 50/52 but the CJ problem (with the Huosai) is cold
> oil - barely 50C most of the time. CHT is easily controlled by the shutters.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 nbsp; --> http://www.=======================
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
Front of the CHT gauge.
The probe position sounds correct.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>
> Define "on the front"? On the front of the gauge?
>
> And pardon me for behing half awake, but the CHT for the front seat gauge
> in the CJ is around one of the #4 sparks and the CHT for the back seat
> gauge is around one of the #1 cylinder spark plus, yes? I like the cup of
> hot water idea a lot!
>
> Jon
>
>
>>From: "Terry Lewis" <talew@bellsouth.net>
>>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:00:04 -0400
>>
>>Mark,
>>On the CJ the CHT adjustment is on the front.
>>My oil temps were accurate so I didn't look to adjust them.
>>Terry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Yak Pilot
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>>
>>
>> That is a REALLY good suggestion Terry. REALLY GOOD!!!!
>>
>> Where is the adjustment, behind the gage itself?
>>
>> Mark Bitterlich
>>
>> Terry Lewis <talew@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>> You need to be sure that your temp. probes are accurate. What I did
>> was use
>> a cup of water with a coffee heater in it and run the water up to
>> boil with
>> a probe in the water. I then adjusted the instrument to read 100 C
>> They
>> were both off about 15 C
>> Terry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
>>
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:35 PM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>>
>>
>> Point,
>> > MALS-14 64E"
>> >
>> > Outside air temp is what, during these readouts?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of napeone
>> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 18:13
>> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>> >
>> >
>> > My Yak 50's oil temp in the summer is mid green. The 52 is low
>> green.
>> > The cht on the 50 is cool. Bottom of green with cowl flaps open.
>> The 52
>> > is higher 180-190C. Both burn about the same amount of fuel at the
>> same
>> > power settings. No conclusions.
>> > David H.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | An excellent Titanium exhaust welder |
I had a crack in the titanium exhaust repaired on my Yak-55M by an
excellent place in NJ. They also fabricated extensions to the outlet.
They specialize in exhaust repairs on materials ranging from stainless,
inconel, and titanium. I shipped them the parts UPS, they repaired and
shipped back.
General Air Inc.
23a Vreeland St.
Lodi, New Jersey
973-478-0818
http://www.4genair.com/
It's easy to find someone to weld/repair these metals. It's difficult
to find someone capable of doing it correctly. I hope the above
recommendation helps someone else.
-John
ps, thanks Sergei
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| Subject: | Re: An excellent Titanium exhaust welder |
We also have the capability of welding titanium exhausts as well.
Cheers,
Cliff
John Nafziger wrote:
>
>I had a crack in the titanium exhaust repaired on my Yak-55M by an
>excellent place in NJ. They also fabricated extensions to the outlet.
>They specialize in exhaust repairs on materials ranging from stainless,
>inconel, and titanium. I shipped them the parts UPS, they repaired and
>shipped back.
>
>General Air Inc.
>23a Vreeland St.
>Lodi, New Jersey
>973-478-0818
>http://www.4genair.com/
>
>It's easy to find someone to weld/repair these metals. It's difficult
>to find someone capable of doing it correctly. I hope the above
>recommendation helps someone else.
>
>-John
>ps, thanks Sergei
>
>
>
>Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
>http://farechase.yahoo.com/
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: generator base plate for hoist |
Will it work on a M14P?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: Yak-List: generator base plate for hoist
>I changed out my engine mounts last night.
>
> Doug suggested that I make a plate to lift the engine by the generator
> mount, which worked really well. Our drill press in the shop uses a
> numerical resolver, so it's easier to make a quick CAD drawing and work
> from
> that.
>
> I'm attaching that for anybody who wants to put it in their collection.
>
> Jon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temps..... |
Well since I am talking about OIL TEMPERATURE, now I am really confused.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:25
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
Front of the CHT gauge.
The probe position sounds correct.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>
> Define "on the front"? On the front of the gauge?
>
> And pardon me for behing half awake, but the CHT for the front seat
gauge
> in the CJ is around one of the #4 sparks and the CHT for the back seat
> gauge is around one of the #1 cylinder spark plus, yes? I like the
cup of
> hot water idea a lot!
>
> Jon
>
>
>>From: "Terry Lewis" <talew@bellsouth.net>
>>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:00:04 -0400
>>
>>Mark,
>>On the CJ the CHT adjustment is on the front.
>>My oil temps were accurate so I didn't look to adjust them.
>>Terry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Yak Pilot
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>>
>>
>> That is a REALLY good suggestion Terry. REALLY GOOD!!!!
>>
>> Where is the adjustment, behind the gage itself?
>>
>> Mark Bitterlich
>>
>> Terry Lewis <talew@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>> You need to be sure that your temp. probes are accurate. What I
did
>> was use
>> a cup of water with a coffee heater in it and run the water up to
>> boil with
>> a probe in the water. I then adjusted the instrument to read 100
C
>> They
>> were both off about 15 C
>> Terry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
>>
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:35 PM
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>>
>>
Cherry
>> Point,
>> > MALS-14 64E"
>> >
>> > Outside air temp is what, during these readouts?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
napeone
>> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 18:13
>> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Oil Temps.....
>> >
>> >
>> > My Yak 50's oil temp in the summer is mid green. The 52 is low
>> green.
>> > The cht on the 50 is cool. Bottom of green with cowl flaps
open.
>> The 52
>> > is higher 180-190C. Both burn about the same amount of fuel at
the
>> same
>> > power settings. No conclusions.
>> > David H.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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