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1. 06:52 AM - Re: Beware (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 07:28 AM - Re: Beware (FamilyGage@aol.com)
3. 09:03 AM - Re: Beware (Stan French)
4. 09:54 AM - Re: Beware (forrest johnson)
5. 11:05 AM - OSH/MTW - Critical Info. (ByronMFox@aol.com)
6. 11:51 AM - Re: Beware (Roger Kemp)
7. 05:42 PM - Yak-55M Crash (ET)
8. 06:35 PM - (no subject) (FamilyGage@aol.com)
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Ray,
Sorry to hear of your problems with Gulf Coast Avionics. I am going to
share your problem with a gentleman who is a FL attorney and fellow
aviator who may be able to help.
That being said, if you are willing to consider another avionics shop
that does outstanding work and is located in Columbus, GA., Stark
Avionics, (their hangar and shop alone are quite impressive), I would be
happy to explain your problem to John Stark and see if he would be
willing to work on your airplane.
Dennis
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From: FamilyGage@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Beware
Knowing that our Yak site is designed to share technical information,
parts, events, etc.; I have hesitated to poach this subject.
Almost a year ago I contracted with Gulf Coast Avionics to do a
complete avionics upgrade on my Yak-52W. The job was to take two or
three weeks to complete. Over four months later the conversion was
still not completed.
When I did pick her up, oops, no brakes. The main hydrolytic line
from the reservoir was torn off of the front rudder pedal. They would
not repair the line, and if it were not for Craig Payne who found an
A/P, the plane would still be in the back of their hangar.
On the trip home neither of the new com's would work. As well as the
new audio panel, VOR-ILS were also inoperative.
I have written letters, made telephone calls for many months, and Gulf
Coast will not respond. Craig does not know any aviation attorneys in
Lakeland.
Being an AOPA member since 1962, and paying extra for their so call
"Legal Insurance", I contacted them. They gave me three names in the
Daytona Beach area. None of the three had ANY interest in my problem
since it was not a multimillion dollar case. Well, so much for AOPA
insurance protection.
All that I have ever asked of Gulf Coast Avionics is to have avionics
that actually work!
My understanding is that Pacific Coast Avionics is a part of this same
company.
If anyone has any suggestions, I am open. Just beware, because a
signed contract means nothing once you have paid their bill.
Ray Gage
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Dennis:
You are a good friend, and greatly appreciated!
Columbus is a little too far for me to travel. There are several shops
within our area that can does the work.
I just think that they had my plane for months, I had made several trips to
Lakeland; and that I was stupid enough and trusting enough to pay their fee in
full before I had checked out their installation.
And frankly I am pissed and want to demand that they fulfill their
contractual agreement.
Thank you again, and would be pleased for an attorney referral.
Your friend,
Ray
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It would seem to me that the culprit has some kind of a license issued
by the FAA or whatever Licensing body handles avionic and radio
installations in aircraft. I would go straight there and advise of the
emergency you incurred in flight as a result of inoperative radios
installed by the culprit...restitution may be only an agency away
Stan
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From: FamilyGage@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Beware
Dennis:
You are a good friend, and greatly appreciated!
Columbus is a little too far for me to travel. There are several
shops within our area that can does the work.
I just think that they had my plane for months, I had made several
trips to Lakeland; and that I was stupid enough and trusting enough to
pay their fee in full before I had checked out their installation.
And frankly I am pissed and want to demand that they fulfill their
contractual agreement.
Thank you again, and would be pleased for an attorney referral.
Your friend,
Ray
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This is exactly why you don't pay the bill until every thing is
completed. You should not have taken possestion until you were
satisfied. Flying the air plane away from the field constitutes
acceptance. I am not taking the shops side, this is advise to every
body. This is true for all services rendered.
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From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Beware
Ray,
Sorry to hear of your problems with Gulf Coast Avionics. I am going
to share your problem with a gentleman who is a FL attorney and fellow
aviator who may be able to help.
That being said, if you are willing to consider another avionics shop
that does outstanding work and is located in Columbus, GA., Stark
Avionics, (their hangar and shop alone are quite impressive), I would be
happy to explain your problem to John Stark and see if he would be
willing to work on your airplane.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: FamilyGage@aol.com
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Beware
Knowing that our Yak site is designed to share technical
information, parts, events, etc.; I have hesitated to poach this
subject.
Almost a year ago I contracted with Gulf Coast Avionics to do a
complete avionics upgrade on my Yak-52W. The job was to take two or
three weeks to complete. Over four months later the conversion was
still not completed.
When I did pick her up, oops, no brakes. The main hydrolytic line
from the reservoir was torn off of the front rudder pedal. They would
not repair the line, and if it were not for Craig Payne who found an
A/P, the plane would still be in the back of their hangar.
On the trip home neither of the new com's would work. As well as
the new audio panel, VOR-ILS were also inoperative.
I have written letters, made telephone calls for many months, and
Gulf Coast will not respond. Craig does not know any aviation attorneys
in Lakeland.
Being an AOPA member since 1962, and paying extra for their so call
"Legal Insurance", I contacted them. They gave me three names in the
Daytona Beach area. None of the three had ANY interest in my problem
since it was not a multimillion dollar case. Well, so much for AOPA
insurance protection.
All that I have ever asked of Gulf Coast Avionics is to have
avionics that actually work!
My understanding is that Pacific Coast Avionics is a part of this
same company.
If anyone has any suggestions, I am open. Just beware, because a
signed contract means nothing once you have paid their bill.
Ray Gage
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Ray,
Talked with the JAG (also a district judge) at drill today about this. He
does not know the limit for small claims in Fl. In Al it is $3000. So saying
that, you need to figure up your loses/cost and take it to small claims
court. He feels from just reading your email that would get a judgement
against Gulf Coast. Now whether you collect on that after it awarded is
another question.
Otherwise, he guesses you could add the cost of your mental anguish and
suffering from the inconvenience of not having your plane for 4 months along
with the cost of repairing all this mess to determine the value of your
lawsuit. After all, if a pair of pants are worth $54 million, surely you
could get something for your trouble. Small claims is probably your answer.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Beware
Ray,
Sorry to hear of your problems with Gulf Coast Avionics. I am going to
share your problem with a gentleman who is a FL attorney and fellow aviator
who may be able to help.
That being said, if you are willing to consider another avionics shop that
does outstanding work and is located in Columbus, GA., Stark Avionics,
(their hangar and shop alone are quite impressive), I would be happy to
explain your problem to John Stark and see if he would be willing to work on
your airplane.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: FamilyGage@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Beware
Knowing that our Yak site is designed to share technical information, parts,
events, etc.; I have hesitated to poach this subject.
Almost a year ago I contracted with Gulf Coast Avionics to do a complete
avionics upgrade on my Yak-52W. The job was to take two or three weeks to
complete. Over four months later the conversion was still not completed.
When I did pick her up, oops, no brakes. The main hydrolytic line from the
reservoir was torn off of the front rudder pedal. They would not repair the
line, and if it were not for Craig Payne who found an A/P, the plane would
still be in the back of their hangar.
On the trip home neither of the new com's would work. As well as the new
audio panel, VOR-ILS were also inoperative.
I have written letters, made telephone calls for many months, and Gulf Coast
will not respond. Craig does not know any aviation attorneys in Lakeland.
Being an AOPA member since 1962, and paying extra for their so call "Legal
Insurance", I contacted them. They gave me three names in the Daytona Beach
area. None of the three had ANY interest in my problem since it was not a
multimillion dollar case. Well, so much for AOPA insurance protection.
All that I have ever asked of Gulf Coast Avionics is to have avionics that
actually work!
My understanding is that Pacific Coast Avionics is a part of this same
company.
If anyone has any suggestions, I am open. Just beware, because a signed
contract means nothing once you have paid their bill.
Ray Gage
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Looks like a -55M went down today outside of Paine Field, Everett WA. The plane
was registered to an Ernest N. Hernandez. I hope the best for his family. I hate
to hear of another 55 driver with problems. Regards ET
Story here:
http://www.komotv.com/news/8509762.html
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Gentlemen:
Thank you all for your productive comments. Gulf Coast Avionics had my
plane blocked in the rear of their hangar and would not move the other planes
until I paid their statement in full.
Small Claims court would require me to make several trips to Lakeland (100
miles) and be there when the case was heard.
Having been in practice for 32 years I had a drawer full of un collectable
claims when I retired.
The FAA suggestion is one that I shall follow up immediately.
Frankly, I simply was too stupid not to trust a company that had full page
ads in TAP. It is my desire that no other RPA members be taken by this firm.
My hand held transceiver has kept me flying.
Thanks again for everyone's assistance.
My Best,
Ray Gage
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