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1. 04:51 AM - GML 2007 (Craig Winkelmann)
2. 07:19 AM - Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's (Cliff Coy)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: GML 2007 (Byron M. Fox)
4. 07:57 AM - Gathering of Mustangs and Legends (Craig Schneider)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: GML 2007 (Brian Lloyd)
6. 09:41 AM - Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 10:08 AM - Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's (kp)
8. 10:38 AM - Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's (Cliff Coy)
9. 12:01 PM - Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's (Cyrus Kissling)
10. 01:43 PM - Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's (A. Dennis Savarese)
11. 05:23 PM - Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends (Craig Schneider)
12. 06:40 PM - Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends (Roger Kemp)
13. 06:46 PM - Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends (Tim Gagnon)
14. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends (Craig Schneider)
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For those who want to know more...
www.gml2007.com
This could be a once in a lifetime event!!
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's |
We just completed our first wet wing modification for a standard Yak-52.
9 gallons per side which pump into the mains. We can go farther
outboard for not a whole lot more labor.
We're quoting the second system at $6500.
E-mail me for more information and pictures!
Cheers,
Cliff
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Craig Winkelmann" <capav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: 7/25/2007 4:50 AM
Subject: Yak-List: GML 2007
For those who want to know more...
www.gml2007.com
This could be a once in a lifetime event!!
Craig
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| Subject: | Gathering of Mustangs and Legends |
Everyone:
I'm based at MRT (Union County Airport, Marysville Ohio) 31 miles
northwest of Rickenbacker Int. Airport, the GML2007 (Gathering of
Mustangs and Legends) location. MRT has plenty of ramp space and
possible a few community hanger spots for the first transients who call
and reserve. There are inexpensive hotels in the Marysville area.
There's also maintenance on site at MRT and they may allow camping, tent
and/or trailer but there are no power/water hookups or access to
bathrooms 24/7.
The GML2007 event is Thursday Sept. 27 thru Sunday Sept. 30. Contact me
offline and if there's enough interest, I can see about hosting a hanger
party at MRT with some of the other local YAK/CJ pilots in the area on
Friday Evening, Sept. 28th.
I've asked the event coordinators about GA aircraft flying in
individually and as a group to LCK and have yet to get a response. I'll
post an answer when I find out. I've already been told there will be no
camping, etc at the GML2007 location (LCK).
On Sat. and Sun. I'll be working "ramp patrol" at GML2007 from 8am to
1pm. If weather permits, I intend on flying my YAK to LCK each day from
MRT.
Craig Schneider
YAK-52W N90GC
Email: craig@ustek.com
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On Jul 25, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Craig Winkelmann wrote:
> For those who want to know more...
>
> www.gml2007.com
>
> This could be a once in a lifetime event!!
You know, we often hear from men who were involved in the air war
over Europe but it seems to me that we rarely hear that much from men
involved in the air war in the Pacific. I would love to hear the
stories from the men who flew the SBD and the F6F.
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| Subject: | Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's |
Cliff,
What is the estimated total time to complete the modification?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's
>
> We just completed our first wet wing modification for a standard Yak-52.
> 9 gallons per side which pump into the mains. We can go farther
> outboard for not a whole lot more labor.
>
> We're quoting the second system at $6500.
>
> E-mail me for more information and pictures!
>
> Cheers,
> Cliff
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's |
Termikas gets an extra 80 litres (17.6 imperial gallons) per SIDE from their
wet wings, priced about the same.
kp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's
>
> We just completed our first wet wing modification for a standard Yak-52.
> 9 gallons per side which pump into the mains. We can go farther outboard
> for not a whole lot more labor.
>
> We're quoting the second system at $6500.
>
> E-mail me for more information and pictures!
>
> Cheers,
> Cliff
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's |
Expect about 2 weeks roll-in to roll-out.
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Cliff,
> What is the estimated total time to complete the modification?
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the
> 52W's
>
>
>>
>> We just completed our first wet wing modification for a standard Yak-52.
>> 9 gallons per side which pump into the mains. We can go farther
>> outboard for not a whole lot more labor.
>>
>> We're quoting the second system at $6500.
>>
>> E-mail me for more information and pictures!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cliff
>>
>>
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>>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's |
Cliff,
I had Anabaras in Lithuania do a wet wing mod for me when they did my plane.
It leaked like hell form the day I got it to the point where I simply
disconnected it. Liutauras at Anabaras would not even email me back. They
also simply ran a vent line from the main aluminum tank about 3/4 of the way
up into the new wet wing. Fuel would leak into the wet wing when the main
was full and leak out.
Do you have any type of liquid sealer that you can recommend and a method
to apply it? Thanks,
Cy Kissling Stuart Fl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's
>
> We just completed our first wet wing modification for a standard Yak-52.
> 9 gallons per side which pump into the mains. We can go farther outboard
> for not a whole lot more labor.
>
> We're quoting the second system at $6500.
>
> E-mail me for more information and pictures!
>
> Cheers,
> Cliff
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's |
That's like comparing apples and oranges. It may cost the same when the
airplane is already in Lithuania. But if it's not in Lithuania, there IS no
comparison. Let's see - approximate cost to ship a set of wings in a
container to LT from the US is now around $5K+ each way. Plus $6500 for the
wet wing conversion. Plus if Cliff does the conversion, you can bet they
will stand behind the conversion. Not that Termikas won't. But who's going
to do the repair? Most likely......Cliff Coy. :-)
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "kp" <pilko2@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's
>
> Termikas gets an extra 80 litres (17.6 imperial gallons) per SIDE from
> their wet wings, priced about the same.
>
> kp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Extra fuel for 52 - Follow the example in the 52W's
>
>
>>
>> We just completed our first wet wing modification for a standard Yak-52.
>> 9 gallons per side which pump into the mains. We can go farther outboard
>> for not a whole lot more labor.
>>
>> We're quoting the second system at $6500.
>>
>> E-mail me for more information and pictures!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Gathering of Mustangs and Legends |
I talked with Mark Mulcahey, GML2007 airport logistics coordinator. He tol
d me "NO GA will be allowed to fly in the event Sept 27 thru Sept 30". Pil
ots must make arrangments to fly to one of the other airports in the area.
From: Craig Schneider
Sent: Wed 7/25/2007 11:00 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends
Everyone:
I'm based at MRT (Union County Airport, Marysville Ohio) 31 miles
northwest of Rickenbacker Int. Airport, the GML2007 (Gathering of
Mustangs and Legends) location. MRT has plenty of ramp space and
possible a few community hanger spots for the first transients who call
and reserve. There are inexpensive hotels in the Marysville area.
There's also maintenance on site at MRT and they may allow camping, tent
and/or trailer but there are no power/water hookups or access to
bathrooms 24/7.
The GML2007 event is Thursday Sept. 27 thru Sunday Sept. 30. Contact me
offline and if there's enough interest, I can see about hosting a hanger
party at MRT with some of the other local YAK/CJ pilots in the area on
Friday Evening, Sept. 28th.
I've asked the event coordinators about GA aircraft flying in
individually and as a group to LCK and have yet to get a response. I'll
post an answer when I find out. I've already been told there will be no
camping, etc at the GML2007 location (LCK).
On Sat. and Sun. I'll be working "ramp patrol" at GML2007 from 8am to
1pm. If weather permits, I intend on flying my YAK to LCK each day from
MRT.
Craig Schneider
YAK-52W N90GC
Email: craig@ustek.com
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| Subject: | Gathering of Mustangs and Legends |
I cannot make the show but what is Stallion 51 considered to be. The last
time I looked they are a civilian owned company flying an ex-military
aircraft. Are you saying no YAKs or CJ's can fly into the either? Or, are
you saying no Pipers, Cessena's or Beech aircraft will be allowed at
Rickenbacker?
Just curious? I would love to make the trip up but other issues demand my
time but I may well try to clear the calender.
Smokey, you up for a XC in the Vipers?
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends
I talked with Mark Mulcahey, GML2007 airport logistics coordinator. He told
me "NO GA will be allowed to fly in the event Sept 27 thru Sept 30". Pilots
must make arrangments to fly to one of the other airports in the area.
_____
From: Craig Schneider
Sent: Wed 7/25/2007 11:00 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends
Everyone:
I'm based at MRT (Union County Airport, Marysville Ohio) 31 miles
northwest of Rickenbacker Int. Airport, the GML2007 (Gathering of
Mustangs and Legends) location. MRT has plenty of ramp space and
possible a few community hanger spots for the first transients who call
and reserve. There are inexpensive hotels in the Marysville area.
There's also maintenance on site at MRT and they may allow camping, tent
and/or trailer but there are no power/water hookups or access to
bathrooms 24/7.
The GML2007 event is Thursday Sept. 27 thru Sunday Sept. 30. Contact me
offline and if there's enough interest, I can see about hosting a hanger
party at MRT with some of the other local YAK/CJ pilots in the area on
Friday Evening, Sept. 28th.
I've asked the event coordinators about GA aircraft flying in
individually and as a group to LCK and have yet to get a response. I'll
post an answer when I find out. I've already been told there will be no
camping, etc at the GML2007 location (LCK).
On Sat. and Sun. I'll be working "ramp patrol" at GML2007 from 8am to
1pm. If weather permits, I intend on flying my YAK to LCK each day from
MRT.
Craig Schneider
YAK-52W N90GC
Email: craig@ustek.com
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| Subject: | Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends |
Are you saying no GA will be allowed to fly DURING the event or into the field?
Unless the FAA closes the field for three days, they cannot prevent you from
landing.
I may just go to the Lee Bottom fly-in instead. Very cool gathering!
http://www.leebottom.com/fly%20in.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=125704#125704
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| Subject: | Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends |
NO General Aviation aircraft (except those invited to the GML2007) will be
allowed to fly into LCK during the convention (Sept 27th-Sept 30th). There
will be NOTAMS and a TFR issued concerning the airspace. This information
comes directly from the organizers of the event. If you want to discuss thi
s with them, please call Mark Mulcahey 614-851-9900, press option #2. Mark
is the Logistics coordinator for the event and the airport manager at TZR (
Bolton Field) in Columbus Ohio.
From: Tim Gagnon
Sent: Wed 7/25/2007 9:45 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends
Are you saying no GA will be allowed to fly DURING the event or into the fi
eld? Unless the FAA closes the field for three days, they cannot prevent yo
u from landing.
I may just go to the Lee Bottom fly-in instead. Very cool gathering!
http://www.leebottom.com/fly%20in.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=125704#125704
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