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1. 06:24 AM - Re: Yak 50 priming drip (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
2. 06:41 AM - Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab (Doug Sapp)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: Yak 50 priming drip (Jan Mevis)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 07:22 AM - MERFI Fly In August 25-26 (Craig Schneider)
6. 07:39 AM - Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab (Doug Sapp)
7. 07:54 AM - Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab (Jim Bernier)
8. 08:12 AM - Re: retract actuator setting (Dale)
9. 08:36 AM - Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub (Marc)
10. 08:41 AM - Enough (FamilyGage@aol.com)
11. 09:01 AM - Re: Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub (Brian Lloyd)
12. 09:42 AM - Re: Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub (Herb Coussons)
13. 09:47 AM - Re: MERFI Fly In August 25-26 (Tim Gagnon)
14. 10:25 AM - Re: Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
15. 02:26 PM - Re: Yak 50 priming drip (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
16. 03:18 PM - CJ W&B (DaBear)
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| Subject: | Yak 50 priming drip |
I'd like to hear the details on the fire Jan. I would suspect it
happened once the engine starting cranking. It would be very easy under
such circumstances for the gas to light off in the cylinder and then
come out of the exhaust on fire and create quite a mess in the process.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:30
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
Of course you're right, Mark.
Nevertheless, I started a fire once, after priming too much. I still
don't know how or why, since the engine was not hot. I did not have any
(known) leaks. Since then, I always try to have someone in the nearby.
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: zondag 5 augustus 2007 19:47
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sorry to disagree gents, BUT! I have primed the snot out of my 50 and
have NEVER had fuel leak out of the bottom of the engine. Out of the
exhaust ... Sure... Especially when priming and then pulling the prop
through. I've had it come out of the intake drain lines especially with
the drain kit installed and the valve open.
I have even had it come out of a CRACK in one of the INTAKE TUBES (hint
hint).
I disagree that it is normal under any condition. Take a look at how
this system works. It would have to get down, back out the blower, and
then down to the carb to come out.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:19
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
I have had it when priming too much. Be careful when priming. You may
start a fire. I have already started a fire once. I was very lucky to
have friends with fire extinguishers in the neighborhood. No damage
thanks to their rapid intervention! The fire I started, was entirely my
own fault, being unexperienced with the Yak.
IMHO, when the engine does not start easily, there's some problem. For
best practices, try to have someone with a fire extinguisher in the
neighborhood when starting. Of course, this is not always possible.
Jan Mevis
YK 50 RA2005K
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Alber
Sent: zaterdag 4 augustus 2007 17:28
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
When I prime my 50, fuel drips from the airbox under the carb.
Dennis thinks this may be normal on 50s and not show up on 52s because
they are level. Any other 50 or 55 drivers have this experience?
Thanks
John Alber
John Alber
john@johnalber.com
314-259-2144
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab |
Tom,
I carry trim cables for the CJ6 in stock, have no idea as to rather it
is long enough for the 50, I think it should be. Contact me off list
and I'll get one off to you today. Before 11AM if you want it Fed EX.
Always Yakin,
Doug
Johnson wrote:
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>
> Tj
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| Subject: | Yak 50 priming drip |
Yes, it was something like that. I remember the engine "coughing" one or two
times and then nothing. At that time, I had a bad, lazy starting-valve. The
shower-of-sparks at the contrary worked very well. So it is probable that
one cylinder fired, and with spilled fuel in the exhaust, it probably gave a
flame large enough to ignite oily stuff on the bottom of the cowling.
Since then, I not only try to have someone nearby when starting, but I also
keep the engine compartment clean.
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: maandag 6 augustus 2007 15:24
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I'd like to hear the details on the fire Jan. I would suspect it
happened once the engine starting cranking. It would be very easy under
such circumstances for the gas to light off in the cylinder and then
come out of the exhaust on fire and create quite a mess in the process.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:30
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
Of course you're right, Mark.
Nevertheless, I started a fire once, after priming too much. I still
don't know how or why, since the engine was not hot. I did not have any
(known) leaks. Since then, I always try to have someone in the nearby.
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: zondag 5 augustus 2007 19:47
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sorry to disagree gents, BUT! I have primed the snot out of my 50 and
have NEVER had fuel leak out of the bottom of the engine. Out of the
exhaust ... Sure... Especially when priming and then pulling the prop
through. I've had it come out of the intake drain lines especially with
the drain kit installed and the valve open.
I have even had it come out of a CRACK in one of the INTAKE TUBES (hint
hint).
I disagree that it is normal under any condition. Take a look at how
this system works. It would have to get down, back out the blower, and
then down to the carb to come out.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:19
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
I have had it when priming too much. Be careful when priming. You may
start a fire. I have already started a fire once. I was very lucky to
have friends with fire extinguishers in the neighborhood. No damage
thanks to their rapid intervention! The fire I started, was entirely my
own fault, being unexperienced with the Yak.
IMHO, when the engine does not start easily, there's some problem. For
best practices, try to have someone with a fire extinguisher in the
neighborhood when starting. Of course, this is not always possible.
Jan Mevis
YK 50 RA2005K
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Alber
Sent: zaterdag 4 augustus 2007 17:28
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
When I prime my 50, fuel drips from the airbox under the carb.
Dennis thinks this may be normal on 50s and not show up on 52s because
they are level. Any other 50 or 55 drivers have this experience?
Thanks
John Alber
John Alber
john@johnalber.com
314-259-2144
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab |
Doug, I think TJ wants a trim TAB, not the cable. It's the same trim
tab as used on the 52's elevator.
Dennis
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From: Doug Sapp
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Trim Tab
Tom,
I carry trim cables for the CJ6 in stock, have no idea as to rather it
is long enough for the 50, I think it should be. Contact me off list
and I'll get one off to you today. Before 11AM if you want it Fed EX.
Always Yakin,
Doug
Johnson wrote:
Anybody have a NEW or nice used elevator trim tab available for
sale?
Tj
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| Subject: | MERFI Fly In August 25-26 |
Any interest in flying into MERFI on August 25 or 26 as a group? We could
meet up where I'm based at MRT (Union county airport, 52nm SW of MFD) or so
meplace closer.
Merfi will be at the Mansfield Ohio airport (MFD). Camping will be allowed
on the airport grounds.
For info: http://www.merfi.info/
Craig Schneider
YAK-52W N90GC
email: craig@ustek.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab |
Dennis and all,
Sorry, I went back and re read his post and of course your correct. I
guess it just too early and my coffees to weak this morning. Sorry for
the bother.
Doug
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> Doug, I think TJ wants a trim TAB, not the cable. It's the same trim
> tab as used on the 52's elevator.
> Dennis
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> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 06, 2007 8:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Trim Tab
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> Tom,
> I carry trim cables for the CJ6 in stock, have no idea as to
> rather it is long enough for the 50, I think it should be.
> Contact me off list and I'll get one off to you today. Before
> 11AM if you want it Fed EX.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug
>
> Johnson wrote:
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>> Anybody have a NEW or nice used elevator trim tab available for sale?
>>
>> Tj
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 Trim Tab |
Doug
Always good to hear from ya. As long as you are still out there, I know
that I can get needed parts.
No apology necessary.
Jim B
>>> Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> 8/6/2007 9:38 AM >>>
Dennis and all,
Sorry, I went back and re read his post and of course your correct. I
guess it just too early and my coffees to weak this morning. Sorry for
the bother.
Doug
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
Doug, I think TJ wants a trim TAB, not the cable. It's the same trim tab
as used on the 52's elevator.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Sapp ( mailto:rvfltd@televar.com )
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 Trim Tab
Tom,
I carry trim cables for the CJ6 in stock, have no idea as to rather it is
long enough for the 50, I think it should be. Contact me off list and
I'll get one off to you today. Before 11AM if you want it Fed EX.
Always Yakin,
Doug
Johnson wrote:
Anybody have a NEW or nice used elevator trim tab available for sale?
Tj
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| Subject: | Re: retract actuator setting |
Thank You Dennis
Dale
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| Subject: | Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub |
I'm looking for a Tail Wheel Hub for a Yak 50 or an early model Wilga 35. I
have 1969 Wilga 35 and it appears to use the same tail wheel as the Yak. I
went to put on a new tire and discovered that the old hub had been epoxied
together.
Any help would be great!!
Also this is my first post so I hope it works.
Thanks
Marc Granger
713-649-0001
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Gentlemen:
Enough about this subject already. Beware, any member who may have
expressed anything, be prepared to hear from all sides.
My situation has nothing to do with the rely from Mr. Miller at GCA. My
plea was simply to get GCA to meet their contractual obligations to install
avionics that actually work. I had attempted for almost a year to get them to
simply reply to the FACT that there are some problems with their avionics
installation that needs attention. No response to multiple e-mails, letters,
and
telephone calls.
Have spoken to several AOPA attorneys and they all said that this is a
simple BREACH OF CONTRACT.
Cliff was totally correct to question my statements. I have sent him
several thank you notes, and a complete file on this situation. GCA has to this
date refused to contact me to schedule a repair date on their installation.
THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE EVER ASKED FROM GCA!
Mr. Miller did respond to you about the two subjects that absolutely nothing
to do with the avionics problems. If he has time for this, why can't he
call me to set up an appointment. He also was sent the complete file.
His only response was that the Aerostar factory did not install a hose from
the hydrolytic reservoir to the Cleveland brakes that were not strong enough
to resist the left foot of his technician from pulling it off of the fitting.
And that from April to July was not four months. This has nothing to do
with nothing. It was their attitude that it was my responsibility to pay for
the repair.
About a week after I picked up the plane in Lakeland, I flew her to Alabama
for one on Dennis' outstanding annuals. On the trip, ATC said "garbled and
unreadable, and not receiving your transponder". Hey wait a minute, these are
all new units. One of Dennis' friends was kind enough to look at the
avionics, and he said that as soon as you return, contact GCA about the
installation.
I did this, as the many letters, calls, and e-mails will show. THEY REFUSED
TO LIVE UP TO THE WARRANTY THAT IS STATED IN OUR CONTRACT, AND HAVE NEVER
RESPONDED TO ANY REQUESTS.
Yes, I must be just another stupid SOB that would expect that paying
$17,522.52 would expect them to stand by their work.
To stop all of this crap, I am taking her to another avionics shop and will
pay for any corrections necessary for safety and function.
Ray Gage
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub |
On Aug 6, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Marc wrote:
> Im looking for a Tail Wheel Hub for a Yak 50 or an early model
> Wilga 35. I have 1969 Wilga 35 and it appears to use the same tail
> wheel as the Yak. I went to put on a new tire and discovered that
> the old hub had been epoxied together.
In my experience heat will break the epoxy bond. You might want to
try cutting the old tire away and then gently heating the hub with a
torch until the epoxy bond breaks. That might save you the cost of a
wheel. If it doesn't work then you are no worse off than you are now.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub |
Contact me off list, I have several parts sources for the Wilga.
Herb Coussons
Cell 920-639-8434
On Aug 6, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Marc wrote:
> I=92m looking for a Tail Wheel Hub for a Yak 50 or an early model
> Wilga 35. I have 1969 Wilga 35 and it appears to use the same tail
> wheel as the Yak. I went to put on a new tire and discovered that
> the old hub had been epoxied together.
>
>
> Any help would be great!!
>
>
> Also this is my first post so I hope it works.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Marc Granger
>
> 713-649-0001
>
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| Subject: | Re: MERFI Fly In August 25-26 |
Craig,
It is my intent to do MERFI...as long as my gear is back in order.
Count me in..Luke coming too?
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| Subject: | Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub |
Just a note, the Sukhoi's use the same tailwheel hub.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:42
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 50 Tail Wheel Hub
Contact me off list, I have several parts sources for the Wilga.
Herb Coussons
Cell 920-639-8434
On Aug 6, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Marc wrote:
I'm looking for a Tail Wheel Hub for a Yak 50 or an early model
Wilga 35. I have 1969 Wilga 35 and it appears to use the same tail wheel
as the Yak. I went to put on a new tire and discovered that the old hub
had been epoxied together.
Any help would be great!!
Also this is my first post so I hope it works.
Thanks
Marc Granger
713-649-0001
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| Subject: | Yak 50 priming drip |
Roger that!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 18:57
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
--> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
It could very well be a leaking diaphragm in the carburetor.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
Point,
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Sorry to disagree gents, BUT! I have primed the snot out of my 50
and
> have NEVER had fuel leak out of the bottom of the engine. Out of the
> exhaust ... Sure... Especially when priming and then pulling the prop
> through. I've had it come out of the intake drain lines especially
with
> the drain kit installed and the valve open.
>
> I have even had it come out of a CRACK in one of the INTAKE TUBES
(hint
> hint).
>
> I disagree that it is normal under any condition. Take a look at how
> this system works. It would have to get down, back out the blower,
and
> then down to the carb to come out.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:19
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
>
>
> I have had it when priming too much. Be careful when priming. You may
> start a fire. I have already started a fire once. I was very lucky to
> have friends with fire extinguishers in the neighborhood. No damage
> thanks to their rapid intervention! The fire I started, was entirely
my
> own fault, being unexperienced with the Yak.
>
> IMHO, when the engine does not start easily, there's some problem. For
> best practices, try to have someone with a fire extinguisher in the
> neighborhood when starting. Of course, this is not always possible.
>
> Jan Mevis
> YK 50 RA2005K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Alber
> Sent: zaterdag 4 augustus 2007 17:28
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50 priming drip
>
>
> When I prime my 50, fuel drips from the airbox under the carb.
> Dennis thinks this may be normal on 50s and not show up on 52s because
> they are level. Any other 50 or 55 drivers have this experience?
>
> Thanks
>
> John Alber
>
> John Alber
> john@johnalber.com
> 314-259-2144
>
>
>
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Folks,
Please forward this information to anyone who has downloaded the CJ W&B
spreadsheet from the RedStar website. The spreadsheet is incorrect for
the weight of oil. I have sent an updated version to Deon to replace on
the website, but please forward this information to anyone who may have
an older version.
The new version also has an initial W&B calculation section for those
folks that are modifying their aircraft.
If anyone has any suggestions or thoughts for the spreadsheet version
2C, please let me know.
I've attached a version here for information.
Dabear
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