Yak-List Digest Archive

Sun 08/12/07


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:38 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 08/11/07 (Robert Starnes)
     2. 06:52 AM - Re: Compressor (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 07:09 AM - Wilga  (Kelley Monroe)
     4. 09:42 AM - Re: Wilga (Joe Howse)
     5. 10:02 AM - Air Compressor Warning (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
     6. 12:04 PM - Re: Air Compressor Warning (Brian Lloyd)
     7. 02:16 PM - Sighting device for Yak-55M (Pilot2874)
     8. 06:54 PM - Re: Wilga  (Herb Coussons)
     9. 07:03 PM - Re: Sighting device for Yak-55M (Herb Coussons)
    10. 09:55 PM - Re: Sighting device for Yak-55M (mikspin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:38:40 AM PST US
    From: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 08/11/07
    Removing the air compressor is not all that difficult in my experience, at least on the CJ-6. A Snap-on 11mm swivel socket and a set of wobble extensions are an absolute must, though. don't go cheap here, pony up for the snap-on, the first socket I used was a craftsman that broke trying to turn the L/H underside, hard to see nuts. Took about an hour. Has anyone experienced the gap of the compressor rings aligning? I've had that happen before too, a good hard run at the end of the runway , varying the power settings got 'em back right. Just my 2 cents. (worthless at current exchange rates.) -Robert Starnes


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    Time: 06:52:25 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Compressor
    Pull the output check valve assembly from the compressor. Clean it and replace the crush washers with new crush washers. Make sure the spring in the check valve is not broken and the little piston and its spring moves freely with light pressure. It is quite common to have the output check valve banjo fittings leak under higher pressure due to the cap loosening and the crush washers not completely sealing. I would also pull the snot bottle off the airplane and thoroughly clean and flush it out. This too can cause the system not to properly charge to the full pressure relief valve setting (ie: the pop-off valve). While you're at it, you might as well remove the one and only air filter directly below the pop-off valve and clean/replace it. IF you can disassemble it, Doug Sapp stocks the internal screens for it. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scooter" <yakk52@verizon.net> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Yak-List: Compressor > > Always a fun topic. So the issue is the compressor is a bit lethargic. > Maybe making about 40atm and taking some time to do it. After landing and > using the brakes a bit I might only have 35 when i put it away. > > After running there's enough residual pressure to blow the snot out but > maybe not as much as before. If I add external air the pop-off operates > up around 50atm. > > I removed the cowl and checked hose couplings with the engine running and > didn't detect any leaks (I would guess that it would be noticeable with > your hand clamped over the fitting?). Haven't yet attempted to charge the > pump-to-snot section and check for leaks. > > I'm thinking this will probably require a compressor rebuild and am > assuming it will most likely be the rings on the piston. Any chance I can > pull the cylinder and replace these rings or should I pull the entire > assembly? Anyone know roughly what a rebuild costs? Note that I've read > the previous posts on removing the compressor, etc. great advice and I'm > not looking forward to it. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128649#128649 > > >


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    Time: 07:09:15 AM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Wilga
    I am looking at buying a Wilga 104-35 or 104-80 to fly out of my farm. Does anyone have in information to share. Thanks Kelley


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    Time: 09:42:06 AM PST US
    From: Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Wilga
    Kelley Would you be interested in a PZL 101 ( forerunner to the Wilga ?) Recently restored in Victoria by Victoria Air Maint. Contact me at joeh@shaw.ca for info and pics. Joe


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    Time: 10:02:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Air Compressor Warning
    From: vectorwarbirds@aol.com
    We just completed rebuilding three air compressors pulled from 400 to 1200 hour engines and feel you all should be aware of what we found.? First you should know that there are THREE valves at and in the compressor.? One is external at the cylinder and two are internal valves. One is located in the cylinder head and the other in the piston itself and the most important.? The piston valve and its airways were virtually clogged with burned oil residue, the airways are 5/32" in diameter are run down and out the sides of the piston.? Those holes were clogged to about the size of a safely wire when we removed the piston.? You will most likely NOT be able to remove the piston valve yourself without the special tools to do so. There are both vertical and horizontal holes running through the piston so the crown valve has to be removed to clean them all. As a test we submerged one of the uncleaned and un-assembled pistons in carbon cleaner in our heated ultrasonic cleaner and left it for 48hrs to just see if this would clear the passageways and clean the valve without having to disassemble the valve system, almost zero cleaning after we took the thing apart so this is not an option. The piston valve is just like the external valve, poppet valve and spring. They were completely clogged as well as all the passageways. From this experiment we are going to pull our newly cleaned compressor in two years to see what kind of build up has occurred during that time, then we will know a schedule for cleaning.? So in closing we would recommend that everyone take a hard look at pulling the cylinder and having the system cleaned at the least.? You can pull the cylinder only as there is no need to remove the compressor body from the engine for this program.? We also replaced all the nuts with locking 10mm head size to make R&R easier in the future. We believe that at least one aircraft has had an engine failure resulting from the loss of the compressor which sheared an accessory drive gear.? (CJ6).? If the valves and holes become totally clogged the compressor is working against itself to compress air that has nowhere to go, major heat buildup as well all know in compressors.? We also recommend a compressor overboard or dump valve to let the compressor 'freewheel' when building air is not required.? We open the valve on climb and close it when down wind. (Ck list). Let us know if you have any questions. Vector Aviation USA -- Bunndini "Wasn't there something in your life worth losing everything for?" Mulay Achmed Mohammed el-Raisuli the Magnificent, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers - 1902 ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 12:04:13 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Air Compressor Warning
    On Aug 12, 2007, at 1:01 PM, vectorwarbirds@aol.com wrote: > The piston valve and its airways were virtually clogged with burned > oil residue, the airways are 5/32" in diameter are run down and out > the sides of the piston. Those holes were clogged to about the > size of a safely wire when we removed the piston. This strikes me as a call for an oil less prone to breakdown and coking. An engine that has been flown on lower-quality mineral oil might be more likely to have this type of problem. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 02:16:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Sighting device for Yak-55M
    From: "Pilot2874" <kbarsukov@hotmail.com>
    Hi there, Does anyone have any information on where/how to manufacture or buy and install sighting devices on Yak-55M? I recently bought the Yak-55M looking to add sighting devices to it. Any input will be greatly appreciated. thanks, Kirill Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128795#128795


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    Time: 06:54:31 PM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Wilga
    I have one, its for sale, although I have 2 people looking at it this week. I really like it, and would be happy to share all I know about them. I have put almost 150 hours on mine in just over 2 years. It is quite the machine. Contact me off list and I'll be happy to share what I know. Herb Cell 920-639-8434 On Aug 12, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Kelley Monroe wrote: > I am looking at buying a Wilga 104-35 or 104-80 to fly out of my > farm. Does anyone have in information to share. Thanks Kelley > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== >


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    Time: 07:03:25 PM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Sighting device for Yak-55M
    I am also interested. Although I think most people just make them, I do not think there is a standard one. I have photos of several different ones if you want to look at some options. Herb On Aug 12, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Pilot2874 wrote: > > Hi there, > > Does anyone have any information on where/how to manufacture or buy > and install sighting devices on Yak-55M? I recently bought the > Yak-55M looking to add sighting devices to it. > > Any input will be greatly appreciated. > > thanks, > Kirill > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128795#128795 > >


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    Time: 09:55:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sighting device for Yak-55M
    From: "mikspin" <mikspin@aol.com>
    Hi guys, I'd also like to know what you find out on the sighting device. Right now I'm planning on making one; I'll post when I do, and if you haven't found one by then, I could make a couple extra ones. Mike Hastings Yak 55M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128880#128880




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