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1. 09:34 AM - Oil additives (John Graham)
2. 10:46 AM - Re: Oil additives (ANDREWS)
3. 10:52 AM - Re: Oil additives (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 11:23 AM - Re: Oil additives (Brian Lloyd)
5. 11:26 AM - Re: Oil additives (Dale)
6. 11:59 AM - Re: Oil additives (Dave Laird)
7. 12:50 PM - Re: Oil additives (Brian Lloyd)
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Is there any benefit (or possible detriment) to adding
something like Avblend to the 100W oil in the M-14P
engine? This worked well in my Piper Cub J-3
Continental A-75 engine, but I realize the M-14 is a
different animal.
Thanks,
John P. Graham
CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com
Cell phone (847) 641-1330
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil additives |
John,
Here at KDVT we have been using Avblend with Phillip 25X60W oil in MP-14
engines for nine years, 1000 hours + flight time. Temperatures (Fahrenheit)
30 to 115 , Airport field elevation 1500' ft to 7000' ft . Work well for us
also.
Don Andrews
N23YK
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Graham" <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Oil additives
>
> Is there any benefit (or possible detriment) to adding
> something like Avblend to the 100W oil in the M-14P
> engine? This worked well in my Piper Cub J-3
> Continental A-75 engine, but I realize the M-14 is a
> different animal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John P. Graham
> CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com
> Cell phone (847) 641-1330
>
>
> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
> http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil additives |
Not recommended John. Switch to Philips 25W-60 oil. It was specifically
developed for radial engines. Or continue to use Aeroshell 100W, but with
NO additives.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Graham" <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Oil additives
>
> Is there any benefit (or possible detriment) to adding
> something like Avblend to the 100W oil in the M-14P
> engine? This worked well in my Piper Cub J-3
> Continental A-75 engine, but I realize the M-14 is a
> different animal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John P. Graham
> CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com
> Cell phone (847) 641-1330
>
>
> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
> http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil additives |
On Aug 17, 2007, at 9:33 AM, John Graham wrote:
>
> Is there any benefit (or possible detriment) to adding
> something like Avblend to the 100W oil in the M-14P
> engine? This worked well in my Piper Cub J-3
> Continental A-75 engine, but I realize the M-14 is a
> different animal.
Well, you have a "no" (Dennis) and a "yes" (Don). Now for the "maybe"
answer. :-)
First thing to consider is that the aviation oils we have now are
probably an order of magnitude better than the oils that the Chinese
and the Russians were (are?) using. Just switching to something like
Phillips 25W60 is already a huge win. Consider that both the Chinese
and the Russians redline their oils at 80C while Shell and the like
set their redline (inlet oil temp that is) at around 120C. In fact,
they suggest that you don't operate their oils at less than 75C
(which certainly goes against the recommendations of the Chinese and
Russians). The Russians also say wait until oil temps are 30C before
flying but the multi-vis oils are already flowing well at temps below
that.
So there is a lot of latitude in here. I don't know if Avblend is
going to help but clearly it won't hurt. If you are a belt-and-
suspenders kind of guy, you might want to use it. OTOH, switching to
a modern oil should be a must.
And this advice is worth every penny you paid for it. ;-)
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re: Oil additives |
Use the 25-60 and you will see a drop in oil temp .
Dale
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129626#129626
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| Subject: | Re: Oil additives |
Brian, it's so nice to have you back on the list!
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
> Well, you have a "no" (Dennis) and a "yes" (Don). Now for the
> "maybe" answer. :-)
>
> First thing to consider is that the aviation oils we have now are
> probably an order of magnitude better than the oils that the
> Chinese and the Russians were (are?) using. Just switching to
> something like Phillips 25W60 is already a huge win. Consider that
> both the Chinese and the Russians redline their oils at 80C while
> Shell and the like set their redline (inlet oil temp that is) at
> around 120C. In fact, they suggest that you don't operate their
> oils at less than 75C (which certainly goes against the
> recommendations of the Chinese and Russians). The Russians also say
> wait until oil temps are 30C before flying but the multi-vis oils
> are already flowing well at temps below that.
>
> So there is a lot of latitude in here. I don't know if Avblend is
> going to help but clearly it won't hurt. If you are a belt-and-
> suspenders kind of guy, you might want to use it. OTOH, switching
> to a modern oil should be a must.
>
> And this advice is worth every penny you paid for it. ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Oil additives |
On Aug 17, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Dave Laird wrote:
>
> Brian, it's so nice to have you back on the list!
Thanks.
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Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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