Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/20/07


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:00 AM - RPA newletter mailing list (Rob Mortara)
     2. 07:44 AM - Yak 55 sighting gauge available (Robert Kent - WLAC Russian Engineering)
     3. 08:02 AM - Re: RPA newletter mailing list (Lynn Allen)
     4. 09:48 AM - Oil Addatives  (Richard Goode)
     5. 10:50 AM - Red Stars has arrived (Steve Dalton)
     6. 12:16 PM - Snowbird Crash May 07 (Daniel Fortin)
     7. 12:20 PM - Re: Red Stars has arrived (David McGirt)
     8. 12:33 PM - Re: Oil Addatives  (Brian Lloyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:00:56 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com>
    Subject: RPA newletter mailing list
    If you are a member of the RPA and have not received the current summer issue please send me a email I am having trouble with international zip codes. Please confirm any international zip codes Also for next issue please verify in the RPA data base your correct address for next issue. Rob Robert Mortara <http://robert.mortara.name> <http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=57+Sutton+Fram+rd&csz=Flemin gton+nj+08822&country=us> 57 Sutton Fram rd Flemington nj 08822 <mailto:rob@robinhill.com> rob@robinhill.com tel: mobile: Skype ID: <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature&To=908+788-4976&Email=r ob@robinhill.com> 908 788-4976 <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature&To=732-496-7663&Email=r ob@robinhill.com> 732-496-7663 robert.mortara <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=42952548022&v0=5075984&k0=1244690438&src=cli ent_sig_212_1_photo_join&invite=1> Always have my latest info <http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_photo_sig> Want a signature like this? _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Painter Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:27 AM Subject: Yak-List: oil additives Reminds of back in the late sixties (68?). Graham Hill was asked if he thought using STP (car sponsor) at the Indy 500 (he won that year) was beneficial. His response: "It doesn't seem to hurt anything and they pay us a lot of money to put their logo on the car, so we use it." Jerry Painter Wild Blue Aviation 425-876-0865 flywba.com


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    Time: 07:44:48 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Kent - WLAC Russian Engineering" <rkent@wlacrussianeng.co.uk>
    Subject: Yak 55 sighting gauge available
    I have a number of Yk-55 wing sights available from stock. This particular type is shown in Herbs pictures of G-YKSS and in the pictured number c-4. Additional pictures are available through the following links http://nelsonit.net/~rob/55_sight.jpg for a picture of the sight itself http://nelsonit.net/~rob/55_sight_1.jpg for a picture of these sights fitted on G-NOIZ Yk-55M http://nelsonit.net/~rob/55_sight_2.jpg and http://nelsonit.net/~rob/55_sight_3.jpg for pictures of the attachments I have several of these in stock, if anyone is interested, please contact me for details. Regards Rob Kent Stores Manager WLAC - Russian Engineering www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk Tel: +44 1628 829 165 Fax: +44 1628 825 975 Mob: +44 7866 438 293 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons Sent: 19 August 2007 19:17 Subject: Yak-List: SIghting guage and Yak 55 Here is link to a few photos of a variety of designs. I would also put a small streamer on the design for tailslides, torque rolls, and any other maneuvers that are in reverse. I also included an article that I found by accident comparing the 55 to a Sukhoi. I had searched for info on 55s and never found this one. I had seen the review by Allan Cassidy before. The page also has some old videos - 3 years old. I have some new video of inverted spins and tumbles in the 52. I'll try to post in the next few weeks. http://web.mac.com/hscuzz/iWeb/Yak%20Videos/Yak55.html Herb


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    Time: 08:02:06 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Allen <dontmesswtexas@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RPA newletter mailing list


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    Time: 09:48:01 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Oil Addatives
    Oil Additives Referring to Brian Lloyd's posting, I am not an oil specialist, but was wondering if Shell and Co. accept an INLET oil temperature of 120=B0C - i.e. a maximum temperature of possibly over 160=B0C. Is that really the case? I am no defender of Russian oils, but the temperature for Yaks and Sukhois is of course INLET temperature - that is oil that has gone through the oil cooler; back into an oil tank and then now going back into the engine. This cannot be compared with sump temperature on "wet-sump" engines. Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 10:50:08 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Dalton" <sdalton@hughes.net>
    Subject: Red Stars has arrived
    This past weekend I was leading our Red Stars Team at the Pease AFB show. The tower was coordinating each act's clearance into the airspace (a screwed up way to run a show, BTW). In the middle of our performance the tower asked me how much longer before we're done. After I gave him the time we needed to finish, he then told the inbound B-2 bomber that he'd have to hold and wait for the Red Stars to finish. I think we're no longer the redheaded step-child when they put a B-2 in a holding pattern until we finish!! Interesting side note: that one B-2 was doing a fly-by at FIVE airshows that day! Hope it's got a good port-a-potty. -Steve Dalton


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    Time: 12:16:37 PM PST US
    From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Snowbird Crash May 07
    Such a tragic ending for such a stupid problem. Be safe and check that seat belt. Dan http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/dfs/docs/Fti/CT114159_e.asp _________________________________________________________________ Put Your Face In Your Space with Windows Live Spaces http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca


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    Time: 12:20:14 PM PST US
    From: "David McGirt" <david@mcgirt.net>
    Subject: Red Stars has arrived
    Woohoo! That is a great story! Here are some redstars over OSH this year. ( picture from the inside of a DC-3 ) From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dalton Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Yak-List: Red Stars has arrived This past weekend I was leading our Red Stars Team at the Pease AFB show. The tower was coordinating each act's clearance into the airspace (a screwed up way to run a show, BTW). In the middle of our performance the tower asked me how much longer before we're done. After I gave him the time we needed to finish, he then told the inbound B-2 bomber that he'd have to hold and wait for the Red Stars to finish. I think we're no longer the redheaded step-child when they put a B-2 in a holding pattern until we finish!! Interesting side note: that one B-2 was doing a fly-by at FIVE airshows that day! Hope it's got a good port-a-potty. -Steve Dalton


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    Time: 12:33:16 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Addatives
    On Aug 20, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Richard Goode wrote: > Oil Additives > > Referring to Brian Lloyd's posting, I am not an oil specialist, but > was wondering if Shell and Co. accept an INLET oil temperature of > 120C - i.e. a maximum temperature of possibly over 160C. Is that > really the case? Yes. I spent time talking to one of the aviation oil engineers at Shell about just this subject. He assured me that their standard is oil *inlet* temperature as that is what is measured on Continental and Lycoming horizontally-opposed engines. The oil temp is measured at the screen/filter after the oil pump but before the oil enters the engine's oil galleys. I pressed him specifically on this issue and he concluded that what is measured in Lycoming/Continental horizontally- opposed engines is indeed what we call oil inlet temperature. It is the temperature of the oil as it enters the engine and before the engine has a chance to transfer > I am no defender of Russian oils, but the temperature for Yaks and > Sukhois is of course INLET temperature - that is oil that has gone > through the oil cooler; back into an oil tank and then now going > back into the engine. > > This cannot be compared with sump temperature on "wet-sump" engines. Uh, please explain why not? The engineer from Shell certainly thought it could and so do I. From the point of view of the engine you have the oil that is pumped into the galleys (inlet) and the oil that returns to the sump (outlet). In the radial engines there are two oil pumps: a scavenge pump that picks up the oil from the sump and pumps it to the oil cooler and a pressure oil pump that takes the oil from the cooler and pumps it to the oil galleys. In a Lycoming or Continental there is only one oil pump but it performs both functions. It scavenges the oil from the sump and sends it to the oil cooler but since this is a more compact system, there is no second oil pump that pumps the oil into the galleys. The oil from the cooler then goes directly to the oil galleys. Regardless, the inlet oil temp on our radial engines and the oil temp in our horizontally-opposed engines are measured at the same place: just before the oil enters the oil galleys headed for the bearings. > > Richard Goode Aerobatics > Rhodds Farm > Lyonshall > Herefordshire > HR5 3LW > United Kingdom > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > www.russianaeros.com > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C




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