Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/05/07


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:37 AM - Re: Too hot and too heavy (LawnDart)
     2. 07:44 AM - Hangar Party September 29th KMWO....Southwest Ohio. (Tim Gagnon)
     3. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Too hot and too heavy (Brian Lloyd)
     4. 09:16 AM - Illinois Yak-5 crash (John Graham)
     5. 10:22 AM - Re: Illinois Yak-5 crash (Brian Lloyd)
     6. 12:19 PM - Re: Illinois Yak-5 crash (Mark Scrivener)
     7. 02:25 PM - Look ma...no gear! (Tim Gagnon)
     8. 02:39 PM - Re: Look ma...no gear! (Jerome van der Schaar)
     9. 04:25 PM - co2 fix (ronwasson)
    10. 09:10 PM - Re: co2 fix (Roger Kemp)
    11. 10:44 PM - Re: co2 fix (ronald wasson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:37:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Too hot and too heavy
    From: "LawnDart" <propwash@gmail.com>
    This also demonstrates how poorly the general public "witness and relay" information. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132874#132874


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    Time: 07:44:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Hangar Party September 29th KMWO....Southwest Ohio.
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Any Yak drivers out there that may be in the area, stop by for a bite to eat and some flying. Starts at 4:00 pm and goes until..... KMWO...if you need a place to hangar, no sweat. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132889#132889


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    Time: 08:44:57 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Too hot and too heavy
    On Sep 5, 2007, at 6:36 AM, LawnDart wrote: > > This also demonstrates how poorly the general public "witness and > relay" information. Oh, no kidding. I am the president of the Board of Directors for the airport and we make a point at the board meetings to tell everyone that, in the case of an incident or accident not to say anything to the media as it *WILL* be misinterpreted. BTW, this accident just emphasizes the need to plan your take-off. It is much easier to plan your abort point on the runway *BEFORE* you roll. If you have already made the decision your reaction time is cut *WAY* down. It is also useful to identify the point at which you can and cannot return to the runway. (I actually practice turn-back to the runway in some aircraft but have clearly identified that it is not an option for the Yak-52 or CJ6A until one has reached the downwind leg but don't take my word for it.) -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 09:16:15 AM PST US
    From: John Graham <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Illinois Yak-5 crash
    Many of you have read of the Yak-52 crash in Illinois at the Lake in the Hills airport (3CK) on Labor Day. My best friend, who was also my flight instructo and flying buddy, was killed in the accident. Dave Burdine was a former Navy fighter pilot with combat experience over the skies of Iraq. He graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy, went to Navy Flight School, finished first in his class and selected the F14 as his plane to fly. After receiving specialized training in Soviet tactics, he was designated a Navy Adversary Instructor Pilot teaching military pilots how to engage and shoot down MiGs like the one he now flies in airshows! He was selected to go to Topgun and was also a Spin Instructor teaching other F14 pilots how to recover control of their jet in a spin. He is one of few who has intentionally done a LOMCEVAK (the tumbling end over end that little biplanes do) in a jet! His last Navy assignment was as Commanding Officer of the Advanced Flight Training Squadron in Meridian, Mississippi. David enjoyed teaching others how to fly right side up and upside down in the Northwest skies of Chicago. He was the most methodical and responsible flyer I have ever seen. He also flew his pride and joy MiG-17 in airshows across the country. You may check out his web site at www.Squadron17.com. I can assure all of you that Dave did whatever was possible to land that plane safely once the probably engine failure occurred...he was the best pilot I have ever seen or ever flew with. If Dave couldn't bring it down and live, I doubt any of us could have. The plane banked left so as to avoid hitting a row of town homes that were directly in front of his flight path. He trained all of us to turn left if we lost power on take-off from runway 26 and we couldn't make it back to the runway. He was a great pilot, wonderful friend and an even better person. We have lost one of the best - let us never forget him or the others that have gone before. We owe them a lot. Here is a story that ran in today's local newspaper. http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2007/09/05/news/local/doc46de7c8331b38663974636.txt Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 10:22:00 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Illinois Yak-5 crash
    On Sep 5, 2007, at 9:15 AM, John Graham wrote: > Here is a story that ran in today's local newspaper. > > http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2007/09/05/news/local/ > doc46de7c8331b38663974636.txt The link didn't work. Could you please check and re-post? Thanks! -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 12:19:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Illinois Yak-5 crash
    From: "Mark Scrivener" <mark_scrivener@yahoo.com>
    Link worked fine for me. John, thanks for sharing. Sounds like Dave was one heck of a guy and a great pilot. Quite sobering when someone with that ability is lost. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132938#132938


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    Time: 02:25:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Look ma...no gear!
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Nice write up on a Yak-50 gear up landing. Notice that it appears the airplanes suffered fairly minor damage! http://www.birch.ch/yak-50_undercarriage_failure.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132958#132958


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    Time: 02:39:26 PM PST US
    From: "Jerome van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Look ma...no gear!
    Our foundation purched this particular Yak after overhauling from this landing. http://www.yakkes.com/images/gallery/457.jpg Cheers, Jerome -------Original Message------- From: Tim Gagnon Subject: Yak-List: Look ma...no gear! Nice write up on a Yak-50 gear up landing. Notice that it appears the airplanes suffered fairly minor damage! http://www.birch.ch/yak-50_undercarriage_failure.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132958#132958 ========== ========== ==========


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    Time: 04:25:50 PM PST US
    Subject: co2 fix
    From: "ronwasson" <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
    How about this http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=CS207 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132972#132972


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    Time: 09:10:06 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: co2 fix
    Ron, They are using a HEPA-4 air filter. The filters particulates down to 03 microns. That is effective in removing bacteria and most viruses from the air. It is not converting Carbon Monoxide (CO) to carbon dioxide (CO2). To my knowledge, Pegasus does not have a cold catalyst in their system. They do cool the air being inspired by the drivers. There is only one company licensed by NASA to produce this catalyst and I have been working with them to make a air filtration system for the YAK and CJ. There is no way it can be produced for $359 though. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ronwasson Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:25 PM Subject: Yak-List: co2 fix How about this http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=CS207 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132972#132972


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    Time: 10:44:13 PM PST US
    From: ronald wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: co2 fix
    If you mount the intake tube to a source like the generator cooling tube you would have fresh air from in front of the A/C. Routed to the ice chest for cold air to the helmet would be a plus. Cooling vest off the ice chest is a option also. . Since we do not have tube radios I doubt the generator needs force cooling at its reduced load.




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