---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/06/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:45 AM - Co (FamilyGage@aol.com) 2. 10:38 AM - Re: co2 fix (Doug Sapp) 3. 11:03 AM - Re: co2 fix (Brian Lloyd) 4. 11:31 AM - Re: co2 fix (DaBear) 5. 04:33 PM - FW: Change in Flag Conduct (Craig Payne) 6. 06:17 PM - Re: FW: Change in Flag Conduct (Roger Kemp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:51 AM PST US From: FamilyGage@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Co Gentlemen: Living in Florida, the cockpit heat is almost never needed. Last year, the heat muff off the right exhaust was removed. Then used SCAT tubing to direct fresh air from the front cowling directly into the two cockpit vents. This gave a somewhat larger volume of cooler fresh air sans engine gases. A simple improvement. Ray http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:37 AM PST US From: Doug Sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: co2 fix Guys, Pushing air into the cockpit via a third shutter mounted blast tube is in my mind the best situation and requires the lease modifications. I favor this over the other methods because this results in the pilot being "air washed" in a steady stream of fresh air from a point well in front of the CO source. For those of you that have the slip joint exhaust or no need for cabin heat this is easily accomplished by the addition of a pair of cut out shutter vanes and a blast tube assembly, plus some scat tube to deliver the fresh air to the cockpit. Some issues do crop up about the potential danger of fire and smoke in the cockpit via this new hole in the firewall should you be unfortunate enough to have an engine fire. This problem can be solved by using fire proof scat and a stainless steel firewall air valve which is available from Van's or Spruce. If you have a Yak 18T or Yak 52 cabin heat muff in your exhaust system things are a bit better for us colder weather types because the valve on the cabin heat muff will allow either fresh or hot air to be sent to the cockpit, but you still have to feed the fresh blast tube air into the heat muff and then somehow get it through the fire wall. Personally I would not disconnect the fresh air cooling from the generator. This not only robs it of it cooling air but forces it to run in oily air environment which will shorten it's life. Just my 5 cents worth. Always Yakin, Doug ronald wasson wrote: > > If you mount the intake tube to a source like the generator cooling > tube you would have fresh air from in front of the A/C. Routed to the > ice chest for cold air to the helmet would be a plus. Cooling vest > off the ice chest is a option also. . Since we do not have tube > radios I doubt the generator needs force cooling at its reduced load. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:34 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: co2 fix On Sep 6, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Doug Sapp wrote: > > Guys, > Pushing air into the cockpit via a third shutter mounted blast tube > is in my mind the best situation and requires the lease > modifications. I favor this over the other methods because this > results in the pilot being "air washed" in a steady stream of fresh > air from a point well in front of the CO source. ... > > Just my 5 cents worth. Makes cents to me. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:50 AM PST US From: DaBear Subject: Re: Yak-List: co2 fix Brian Lloyd wrote: > > > On Sep 6, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Doug Sapp wrote: > >> >> Guys, >> Pushing air into the cockpit via a third shutter mounted blast tube >> is in my mind the best situation and requires the lease >> modifications. I favor this over the other methods because this >> results in the pilot being "air washed" in a steady stream of fresh >> air from a point well in front of the CO source. ... > >> >> Just my 5 cents worth. > > Makes cents to me. > > -- > Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive > brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) You just had to pound your point. DaBear ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:25 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Yak-List: FW: Change in Flag Conduct FYI for interested U.S. vets: Subject: Change in Flag Conduct Per an article in this month's Arizona VFW Newsletter, Section 9 of title 4, United States Code, has been amended to state - "Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute" during hoisting, lowering, or passing of the flag. In the past, if you weren't in uniform, you showed your respect by placing your right hand over your heart. I wonder how many folks you'll see doing this in the future. This change was passed by the Senate on July 25, 2007. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:58 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: FW: Change in Flag Conduct Should have been at the Alabama game with me Sat. Night. I did have a few questions from those standing near me. I'm amazed at how many citizens do not even know how to place their right hand over their heart during the national anthem. Look at everyone of our "sports" heroes! Dirt balls have not defended anything! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Yak-List: FW: Change in Flag Conduct FYI for interested U.S. vets: Subject: Change in Flag Conduct Per an article in this month's Arizona VFW Newsletter, Section 9 of title 4, United States Code, has been amended to state - "Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute" during hoisting, lowering, or passing of the flag. In the past, if you weren't in uniform, you showed your respect by placing your right hand over your heart. I wonder how many folks you'll see doing this in the future. 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