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1. 02:52 AM - Re: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 05:31 AM - Re: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F (Cliff Coy)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: Culps (flir47)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Culps (Tim Gagnon)
5. 10:07 AM - Re: Culps (flir47)
6. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: Culps (Roger Kemp)
7. 06:22 PM - Re: Culps (Tim Gagnon)
8. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Culps (Herb Coussons)
9. 09:40 PM - Re: Culps (flir47)
10. 10:04 PM - Re: Bernoilli, His Equation, Air Moving in Pipes and Flight (Brian Lloyd)
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| Subject: | Re: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F |
I have the first set in my personal airplane which I am presently
testing. So far they are working as expected....perfectly. We have a
few minor changes that we have to do to the bladders which will happen
on the next set. Nothing significant. Only refinement. Quite
honestly, the hardest part of the installation so far was the taping of
the fuel cavity. If you call that "hard". It just takes time. We're
hoping to release them very soon. No further details are available at
this time.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: bill wade
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F
Hi Dennis now that we can go anywhere in the US any time we want, how
about that bladder fuel tank your working on for longer leg's. How close
to compleation?
Bill Wade
"A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
But if the FAA would have simply said, "This Memorandum, when
carried in the
aircraft, removes the restriction of the 300/600 NM proficiency
area." But
no, they want to create paperwork havoc for the local FSDO guys.
Wait
until the local FSDO inspectors get inundated with the requests. It
will
take MONTHS to get your new OL's and Airworthiness Certificate.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2007, at 10:12 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
>
>> Craig,
>> The reason is because the OL's and it's wording must be in
accordance
>> with the current Order, 8130.2F. Many OL's were written when
previous
>> versions were in place. Even though they are all fundamentally
the
>> same, the FSDO Inspector is required to use the present version
of the
>> Order when issuing new OL's. Remember, any change to the OL's
requires
>> issuance of a new airworthiness certificate as well because they
are
>> married together. That's why one must also submit the 8130-6,
>> Application for Airworthiness Certificate.
>
> And as to whether or not you need to get a new LOL, your point
about it
> being married to the AC is significant. Your existing LOL is
married to
> your AC. It currently has the 300nm limit on it therefore even
tho' the
> 300nm limit has been rescinded, it still appears on your LOL and
> therefore is still a part of your OL. If you want it off you need
a new
> LOL issued by the FSDO along with a new AC.
>
> It matters because it is still on the piece of paper. You can't
change
> that paper without changing the AC too. Remember, what is written
on the
> piece of paper is *always* more important and significant than the
rule
> book.
>
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
> brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things
. . .
> - Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry
>
> PGP key ID:
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| Subject: | Re: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F |
Or...you can wet the wings ups.
We've have successfully performed this modification on two aircraft with
a third scheduled.
This provides an additional 10gal per side.
I haven't determined how to post pics onto this list server, so e-mail
me if you're interested.
Steve said anyone can contact him about the fuel system we put in-
stephenmorrey@gmail.com
Cheers,
Cliff Coy
Border Air Ltd.
802-868-2822
cliff@gesoco.com
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> I have the first set in my personal airplane which I am presently
> testing. So far they are working as expected....perfectly. We have a
> few minor changes that we have to do to the bladders which will happen
> on the next set. Nothing significant. Only refinement. Quite
> honestly, the hardest part of the installation so far was the taping
> of the fuel cavity. If you call that "hard". It just takes time.
> We're hoping to release them very soon. No further details are
> available at this time.
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* bill wade <mailto:bwade154@yahoo.com>
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F
>
> Hi Dennis now that we can go anywhere in the US any time we want,
> how about that bladder fuel tank your working on for longer leg's.
> How close to compleation?
> Bill Wade
>
> */"A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com
> <mailto:dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>>/* wrote:
>
>
> But if the FAA would have simply said, "This Memorandum, when
> carried in the
> aircraft, removes the restriction of the 300/600 NM
> proficiency area." But
> no, they want to create paperwork havoc for the local FSDO
> guys. Wait
> until the local FSDO inspectors get inundated with the
> requests. It will
> take MONTHS to get your new OL's and Airworthiness Certificate.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Lloyd"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: FAA Memorandum - 8130.2F
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Sep 19, 2007, at 10:12 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> >
> >> Craig,
> >> The reason is because the OL's and it's wording must be in
> accordance
> >> with the current Order, 8130.2F. Many OL's were written
> when previous
> >> versions were in place. Even though they are all
> fundamentally the
> >> same, the FSDO Inspector is required to use the present
> version of the
> >> Order when issuing new OL's. Remember, any change to the
> OL's requires
> >> issuance of a new airworthiness certificate as well because
> they are
> >> married together. That's why one must also submit the 8130-6,
> >> Application for Airworthiness Certificate.
> >
> > And as to whether or not you need to get a new LOL, your
> point about it
> > being married to the AC is significant. Your existing LOL is
> married to
> > your AC. It currently has the 300nm limit on it therefore
> even tho' the
> > 300nm limit has been rescinded, it still appears on your LOL
> and
> > therefore is still a part of your OL. If you want it off you
> need a new
> > LOL issued by the FSDO along with a new AC.
> >
> > It matters because it is still on the piece of paper. You
> can't change
> > that paper without changing the AC too. Remember, what is
> written on the
> > piece of paper is *always* more important and significant
> than the rule
> > book.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
> > brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
> > +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
> >
> > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty
> things . . .
> > - Antoine de Saint-Exupry
> >
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Would the person that is auctionbarn22 on ebay please e-mail me off list regarding
your cowl purchase?
Thanks :D
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You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!!
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Steve Culp is quite helpful and reasonable. I have bought from him in the past
and have had no issues. I would recommend him.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135656#135656
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Tim Gagnon wrote:
> Steve Culp is quite helpful and reasonable. I have bought from him in the past
and have had no issues. I would recommend him.
Did you have to go thru flee bay to order? I'm having a hard time getting a hold
of them. I would prefer to stay away from the circus atmosphere on flee bay
if I can.
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Call him direct. He will ship it the next day or the day if ordered early in
the day.
I have used him for some of my 50 parts and have not complaints.
I have also gotten parts for Jill, Doug and Cliff in the US and Rob in the
UK all without problems.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flir47
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Culps
Tim Gagnon wrote:
> Steve Culp is quite helpful and reasonable. I have bought from him in the
past and have had no issues. I would recommend him.
Did you have to go thru flee bay to order? I'm having a hard time getting a
hold of them. I would prefer to stay away from the circus atmosphere on flee
bay if I can.
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You built and fly an RV.......BIG DEAL!!!!
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A little through eBay and some directly from him. He is a good guy AND a former
-50 owner!
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And his wife has/had a 52 and a Wilga.
And he's from my hometown, Shreveport, LA - a small field were
everyone knows everyone - and he has an excellent reputation.
Herb
On Sep 21, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
>
> A little through eBay and some directly from him. He is a good guy
> AND a former -50 owner!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135702#135702
>
>
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I'm sure Steve does a good job. Like any business you can't please everyone all
the time.
I found what I needed and at a good price too! Couldn't get a hold of Culps.
No big deal really.
The guy that got the cowl assy for 500 chips ...got a real good deal. I wish I
saw it first!
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| Subject: | Re: Bernoilli, His Equation, Air Moving in Pipes and Flight |
On Sep 20, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> One thing though... For Bernoulli's Principle to apply, the fluid is
> assumed to have the same density everywhere (it is "incompressible"
> like
> water.
>
> Does the compressed air in our systems meet this definition? Yes, no?
No. We are clearly dealing with a compressible fluid as the pressure
on either side of the restriction is different.
We *were* talking about a pipe with an unintended restriction that
causes a large pressure drop between the storage tank and the rest of
the system.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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