---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/18/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:06 AM - rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (Brian Lloyd) 2. 10:38 AM - Re: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (viperdoc) 3. 10:45 AM - Re: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (cjpilot710@aol.com) 4. 11:21 AM - Re: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (Roger Kemp) 5. 12:42 PM - Re: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (Jorgen Nielsen) 6. 03:20 PM - Re: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 7. 03:56 PM - Airport stupidity (was: pneumatic cancer) (Brian Lloyd) 8. 05:13 PM - Re: Airport stupidity (was: pneumatic cancer) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:39 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" > > You know Brian.... I actually knew that. However, just to prove > the point, here ya go dude. Oh, I didn't need proof. I figured you had the formula somewhere. Most geek guys do. I do know I never had the balls to try making it myself. I figured I didn't need to blow them off to prove I had them in the first place. ;-) Now guncotton (nitrocellulose) is another story. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:07 AM PST US From: "viperdoc" Subject: RE: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" > > You know Brian.... I actually knew that. However, just to prove > the point, here ya go dude. Oh, I didn't need proof. I figured you had the formula somewhere. Most geek guys do. I do know I never had the balls to try making it myself. I figured I didn't need to blow them off to prove I had them in the first place. ;-) Now guncotton (nitrocellulose) is another story. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:51 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) In a message dated 10/18/2007 1:39:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, viperdoc@mindspring.com writes: Man! I LOVE this list! In the last few days, I've learn news ways to get drunk, go blind, AND blow up my airplane!!!! And from experts at that!!! Pappy --> Yak-List message posted by: "viperdoc" -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumati c cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" > > You know Brian.... I actually knew that. However, just to prove > the point, here ya go dude. Oh, I didn't need proof. I figured you had the formula somewhere. Most geek guys do. I do know I never had the balls to try making it myself. I figured I didn't need to blow them off to prove I had them in the first place. ;-) Now guncotton (nitrocellulose) is another story. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . =94 Antoine de Saint-Exup=C3=A9ry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:21:29 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) And to think it all started with a leaking restrictor washer or was it?....Good news is you did not blow something else off! Airplanes are replaceable! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) In a message dated 10/18/2007 1:39:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, viperdoc@mindspring.com writes: Man! I LOVE this list! In the last few days, I've learn news ways to get drunk, go blind, AND blow up my airplane!!!! And from experts at that!!! Pappy -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" > > You know Brian.... I actually knew that. However, just to prove > the point, here ya go dude. Oh, I didn't need proof. I figured you had the formula somewhere. Most geek guys do. I do know I never had the balls to try making it myself. I figured I didn't need to blow them off to prove I had them in the first place. ;-) Now guncotton (nitrocellulose) is another story. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . =94 Antoine de Saint-Exup=C3=A9ry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C _____ See what's new ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:09 PM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: RE: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) And how to get hairy palms!!! _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: 18 October 2007 07:43 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) In a message dated 10/18/2007 1:39:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, viperdoc@mindspring.com writes: Man! I LOVE this list! In the last few days, I've learn news ways to get drunk, go blind, AND blow up my airplane!!!! And from experts at that!!! Pappy -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" > > You know Brian.... I actually knew that. However, just to prove > the point, here ya go dude. Oh, I didn't need proof. I figured you had the formula somewhere. Most geek guys do. I do know I never had the balls to try making it myself. I figured I didn't need to blow them off to prove I had them in the first place. ;-) Now guncotton (nitrocellulose) is another story. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . =97 Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C _____ See what's new ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:14 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" In truth, I only tried it once, since hey... I have TWO balls, I figured I'd risk blowing one of them off? Also dry ice works better than a salt/water ice mixture. Yes, I made guncotton as well. My poor old grandmother never knew where all her film negatives went to. However, for just plain old fun I've found the best combination to be 70% Potasium Perchlorate, 15% 600 flake Magnesium powder and 15% 600 flake Aluminum powder (by weight). If you can't get the "Magalum", then straight German Blackhead Aluminum powder is fine. For those that are interested, this is simply "Flash Powder", like they used to use to take pictures with. It is also what was actually inside of those old M-80's we used to blow up mailboxes with as kids. At least some of us. Yes, you're right Brian... A "GEEK" I am. Part of my personality anyway. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:57 Subject: Yak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" > > You know Brian.... I actually knew that. However, just to prove > the point, here ya go dude. Oh, I didn't need proof. I figured you had the formula somewhere. Most geek guys do. I do know I never had the balls to try making it myself. I figured I didn't need to blow them off to prove I had them in the first place. ;-) Now guncotton (nitrocellulose) is another story. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:31 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: Airport stupidity (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Oh, it gets worse Brian. Read the last paragraph and you'll see > that even carrying a stereo in a backpack can land you in jail > these days. You all look out for those Zombie Party Terrorists > now... Ya hear? One of the classes I teach at school is robotics. I have kids building autonomous robots. We are always working with circuit boards, batteries, motors, wire and sometimes with clay for ballast when they are working on the CG and mass of the 'bot. Imagine we have a 'bot in a box we are taking to a competition and need to fly. It is easy to say that we should be careful not to carry something like that but what-the-hey, someone isn't thinking and it happens. Should their life be in danger as a result? Which, of course, begs the question: who is more likely to kill me? TSA/DHS or a terrorist? There is certainly no longer any question in my mind. Clearly we have gone so far to the other side that our "security" is more of a threat than the threat ever was. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:14 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Airport stupidity (was: pneumatic cancer) From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 18:53 Subject: Yak-List: Airport stupidity (was: pneumatic cancer) On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Oh, it gets worse Brian. Read the last paragraph and you'll see that > even carrying a stereo in a backpack can land you in jail these days. > You all look out for those Zombie Party Terrorists now... Ya hear? One of the classes I teach at school is robotics. I have kids building autonomous robots. We are always working with circuit boards, batteries, motors, wire and sometimes with clay for ballast when they are working on the CG and mass of the 'bot. Imagine we have a 'bot in a box we are taking to a competition and need to fly. It is easy to say that we should be careful not to carry something like that but what-the-hey, someone isn't thinking and it happens. Should their life be in danger as a result? Which, of course, begs the question: who is more likely to kill me? TSA/DHS or a terrorist? There is certainly no longer any question in my mind. Clearly we have gone so far to the other side that our "security" is more of a threat than the threat ever was. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.