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1. 07:03 AM - 8130.2F (Jerry Painter)
2. 07:14 AM - Re: 8130.2F (Genzlinger, Reade)
3. 10:41 AM - Re: Looking for Yak 18T Radio Head (vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
4. 03:39 PM - Re: 8130.2F (adrian a.hale)
5. 04:07 PM - Re: Newbie questions (yaklist@citlink.net)
6. 05:05 PM - Re: Newbie questions (Forrest Johnson)
7. 06:24 PM - Re: 8130.2F (A. Dennis Savarese)
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Gents--
I've just been reading 8130.2F, Change 3, dated April 18, 2007, looking f
or
the changes that have been mentioned here recently, I.e., elimination of
the
Proficiency Area Limitation. No can find. Is there a Change 4 or a late
r
version of 8130? Where can I find it? For those of you who have gotten
the
Proficiency Area Limitation expunged from your Airworthiness Certificate:
what protocol did you follow to get it removed? Is a Program
Letter/amendments still required? Have other changes been made besides
elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation?
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
JP@FlyWBA.com
www.FlyWBA.com
425-876-0865
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Jerry:
The elimination of the proficiency area was by memo dated 9-11-07 from
the FAA. See the EAA War Bird site for a complete description of the
process.
Reade Genzlinger
Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation
mailto:readeg@cairnwood.com <mailto:readeg@cairnwood.com>
215.914.0370
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Painter
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: Yak-List: 8130.2F
Gents--
I've just been reading 8130.2F, Change 3, dated April 18, 2007, looking
for the changes that have been mentioned here recently, I.e.,
elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation. No can find. Is there
a Change 4 or a later version of 8130? Where can I find it? For those
of you who have gotten the Proficiency Area Limitation expunged from
your Airworthiness Certificate: what protocol did you follow to get it
removed? Is a Program Letter/amendments still required? Have other
changes been made besides elimination of the Proficiency Area
Limitation?
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
JP@FlyWBA.com
www.FlyWBA.com <http://www.flywba.com/>
425-876-0865
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Yak 18T Radio Head |
I am the dark side..................
Vader Out
-----Original Message-----
From: N13472@aol.com
Sent: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Looking for Yak 18T Radio Head
WHAT? you have gone over to the DARK side???????
?
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 NX63727
Sandy Valley
NV
3L2
702-723-1223
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Jerry, we have new ops limitation letters in hand for out two Yaks. My
FSDO inspector requested an email referring to the memo which
eliminated the nautical mile limit. He issued new airworthiness
certificate and new operating limitations in about a week. When asked
about the annual program letter requirement, he advised it is still a
requirement but will be eliminated with the revision to 8130.2f being
revised now but not yet released. Ade Hale --Tulsa
On Oct 20, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Jerry Painter wrote:
> Gents--
> -
> I've just been reading 8130.2F, Change 3, dated April 18,
> 2007,-looking for the changes that have been mentioned here
recently,
> I.e., elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation.- No can find.-
> Is there a Change 4 or a later version of 8130?- Where can I find
it?-
> For those of you who have gotten the Proficiency Area Limitation
> expunged from your Airworthiness Certificate:- what protocol did you
> follow to get it removed?- Is a Program Letter/amendments still
> required?- Have other changes been made besides elimination of
> the-Proficiency Area Limitation?
> -
> Jerry Painter
> Wild Blue Aviation
> JP@FlyWBA.com
> www.FlyWBA.com
> 425-876-0865
> -
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie questions |
Mike,
Welcome to the CJ driver group! I have owned and flown a CJ for 9
years and been a member of the RPA since it began. CJs are great
planes; you'll enjoy flying one.
My name is Keith Harbour and we have 5 CJs available for sale. My
contact information is :
402.563.4143 Home
402.564.7884 Office
402.910.5247 Mobile
Please call anytime for more information.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Keith
Quoting Mike & Lyne Bourget <thebourgets@cia.com>:
> Hi,, all
>
>
> Newbie from Ottawa, I'm a member of RPA and I've flown in "the dragon" with
> Dan Fortin. He convinced me <grin> to sell my RV8 project and I'm now
> actively looking for a CJ.
>
>
> I've found a couple I'm very interested and have a couple of questions. How
> concerned would you be about an engine with roughly 330 total time, that has
> had a hydro lock? It was professinonally repaired with a new piston, push
> rods etc.
>
>
> Also,, a comp on cyl # 2 is 68. Should I be concerned by this low a
> reading? It is on the housai.
>
>
> I'll have lots more questions, and any advice, words of wisdom are
> appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie questions |
I have placed my CJ6 on the market.
1970 , 285 HP, ss Exh, American airspeed,altimeter,manifold press,. I am
second owner since certificated in 1992 It is pre moritorium. I
purchased the plane in 1999, and have maintained since then. Exelent log
books.Long range fuel cells installed 3 yrs. ago, 3 hrs with 45 min.
reserve. The plane has been to Oshkosh and Sun in Fun numerous times. I
need to chesk the logs to be correct:
350 soh, 4000 tt. Dan Fortin has seen and flown in Form, with this plane
numerous times. Sell price$ 85,000 PH 817 366 3150. Fort Worth Tx.
Contact off list if interested. Could send pictures.
IN answer to your questions, I dont see any thing wrong if the engine
was completely inspected when repaired. The 68/80 is ok. Thanks
Forrest "FLUSH" Johnson.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike & Lyne Bourget
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Newbie questions
Hi,, all
Newbie from Ottawa, I'm a member of RPA and I've flown in "the dragon"
with Dan Fortin. He convinced me <grin> to sell my RV8 project and I'm
now actively looking for a CJ.
I've found a couple I'm very interested and have a couple of
questions. How concerned would you be about an engine with roughly 330
total time, that has had a hydro lock? It was professinonally repaired
with a new piston, push rods etc.
Also,, a comp on cyl # 2 is 68. Should I be concerned by this low a
reading? It is on the housai.
I'll have lots more questions, and any advice, words of wisdom are
appreciated.
Thanks
Mike
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Jerry,
This is an excerpt directly from 8130.2F Change 3. It appears on page
169. c(3) is the paragraph you're looking for.
Dennis
c. Group III, Piston-Powered: Warbirds, Vintage, Replica, and Unique
Aircraft.
(1) Description of Aircraft. This group includes former military
aircraft that were designed
for military operations. Vintage aircraft are those aircraft that were
designed before 1945. Replica
aircraft are those aircraft that have the same external configuration as
an aircraft that was designed
before 1945. Unique aircraft are those aircraft that are one-of-a-kind.
(2) Type of Aircraft. This group includes U.S. piston-powered Warbirds
(regardless of size)
and non-U.S. piston-powered aircraft under 12,500 pounds that meet the
above description and do not
have a design capability of carrying cargo or more than four occupants.
Aircraft that operate under this
group include the North American T-28, Lockheed P-38, North American
P-51, Messerschmitt ME-109,
Boeing B-17, North American B-25, DeHavilland DHC-1 Chipmunk or Tiger
Moth DH-82A,
Focke-Wulfe Piaggo (FWP)-149, Nord Stampe SV4C, and Bucker Jungman
BU-131.
(3) Proficiency Area. All proficiency flights for an aircraft under 800
horsepower will be
conducted in airspace within an operational radius of 300 nautical miles
from its designated home base
airport. Aircraft 800 horsepower and above will be limited to an
operational radius of 600 nautical miles
from their designated home base airport.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Painter
To: Yak List (yak-list@matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: Yak-List: 8130.2F
Gents--
I've just been reading 8130.2F, Change 3, dated April 18, 2007,
looking for the changes that have been mentioned here recently, I.e.,
elimination of the Proficiency Area Limitation. No can find. Is there
a Change 4 or a later version of 8130? Where can I find it? For those
of you who have gotten the Proficiency Area Limitation expunged from
your Airworthiness Certificate: what protocol did you follow to get it
removed? Is a Program Letter/amendments still required? Have other
changes been made besides elimination of the Proficiency Area
Limitation?
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
JP@FlyWBA.com
www.FlyWBA.com
425-876-0865
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