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1. 03:43 AM - Re: pneumatic abrasotherapy (Craig Payne)
2. 03:58 AM - SoCal Winds (Craig Payne)
3. 07:13 AM - Re: pneumatic abrasotherapy and hydrolock (Jill Gernetzke)
4. 09:40 AM - Must be the fumes (Ron Davis)
5. 09:51 AM - Re: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer) (Ron Davis)
6. 10:09 AM - Re: SoCal Winds (Roger Baker)
7. 12:48 PM - SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED (Roger Baker)
8. 12:56 PM - Re: SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED (ByronMFox@aol.com)
9. 02:30 PM - Re: SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED (Roger Kemp)
10. 02:47 PM - Desert Thunder IV CANCELLED (Barry Hancock)
11. 09:55 PM - Re: SoCal Winds (fish@aviation-tech.com)
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| Subject: | Re: pneumatic abrasotherapy |
Back in bad old days when such parts were hard to find, we had those surfaces nickel
plated locally to build them back up a bit. Helped with corrosion too.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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Must be a bit sporty to fly in those Santa Anna winds, I assume that smoke has
shut down a few airports also. As I remember, Ramona is a firebase facility we
we used to clear the pattern and taxiway when ever one of the fire bombers headed
in/out.
My personal "best" on crosswinds in the CJ was a 30+ Kt component. Was not a real
pretty landing. Since then I have experienced same in a Light Sport out at
West Pecos. The key seems to be good low speed handling, a wide runway helps
too.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: pneumatic abrasotherapy and hydrolock |
We have been overhauling these units for almost ten years. We tried
polishing the units ourselves with a granite flat plate and working up
to 6000 grit. It didn't work. I have them optically ground to a
beautiful, mirror flat finish, replace the seals, test etc. for $150 if
there are no problems (broken parts or pieces rusted beyond use).
I also issue a core value if you no longer want your unit or purchase a
replacement.
We have an engine in the shop that experienced a hydraulic lock on
startup. #5 link rod, cylinder and piston are toast. #4 cylinder
skirt also got tagged good and will have to be repalced. There were
bits of ring debris inside of the engine. The crank runout was reset.
We do not advise a field repair for a hydraulic lock. Too many
unanswered questions left behind, if you do. Years ago, we had a Yak
52 customer who was relocating his airplane. He stopped in Vegas to
refuel. When he went to pull the prop through, it came to a hard stop.
A mechanic came out and called us. The engine was removed and sent to
us in San Diego. We found the cam drive gear and idler gear were
missing teeth. The rear cheekplate had rotated on the crank throw and
caused this problem. A previous field repair of a hydraulic lock
(replacing the link rod with the engine still on the airplane - no
disassembly) is what set off these future events. Lucky for the owner
.... he was flying over Steve Fossett's terrain.
Cheers,
Jill Gernetzke
www.m-14p.com
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| Subject: | Must be the fumes |
A review of my comments on alcohol show that I said absolutely nothing abou
t isopropanol. The message is appended below so you can review it yourself
.
However, IF I had said it was in after shave lotions, window cleaner, solve
nts, and rubbing alcohol, I would have been correct. Your statement that I
said it and it's wrong is therefore wrong on both counts.
From: viperdoc@mindspring.comTo: yak-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Yak-Lis
t: pneumatic cancerDate: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:01:12 -0500
Ron,
You are correct on the ethanol (ethyl alcohol). But do not drink the 90% i
sopropyl alcohol that is OTC at the drug store as a rubbing alcohol. It doe
s contain contaminates that are not to healthy (isopropyl alcohol). It caus
es headache, dizziness, confusion, and excitation. All pretty much similar
symptoms of Ethyl alcohol ingestion( Budweiser, Tequila, wood grain alcohol
ect). It just gets uglier with the more you consume causing obtundation, c
oma, respiratory depression, hypothermia, , hypotension, mylopathy, and hem
olytic anemia. Concentrations greater that 66 mmol/L are fatal. It does not
cause blindness unlike methyl alcohol. Methanol above 60 mmol/L will cause
obtundation, convulsions, coma and increased osmolal gap. The blindness i
s a late manifestation from the increased anion gap, metabolic acidosis, wi
th the retinal injury being due to the acidosis causing a secondary accumul
ation of formic acid, lactic acid and ketones in the vitreous humor of the
posterior chamber of the eye permanently destroying the retina. Those are l
ate manifestations occurring 15 to 20 hours or later after ingestion.
So what else do you want to know about the 3 most common alcohols that man
has intentionally and accidentally poisoned him/herself with?
And yes you are absolutely incorrect Isopropyl alcohol (not methyl alcohol)
is found in after-shave lotions, antifreeze, window cleaner, solvents, and
rubbing alcohol. Its=92 metabolite is acetone.
Methanol is found in shellacs, varnishes, paint removers, Sterno, windshiel
d-washer solutions and copy machine fluids to name a few. It is also a dena
turant used to make ethanol unfit for consumption. And it really will make
you go blind!
So the devil really is in the details.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron DavisSent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:20 P
MTo: yak-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Yak-List: pneumatic cancer
Ethanol is a component of scotch, bourbon, vodka, and gasahol. It is avai
lable in high concentration in many states from liquor stores where it is s
old as Everclear or grain alcohol. Ethanol does not cause blindness when c
onsumed in any reasonable quantity. Industrial ethanol is labeled as pois
onous either because it has been de-natured (poisoned) to make it undrinkab
le and thus avoid the excise tax on drinkable ethanol, or it is labeled poi
sionous because in today's world pretty much everything is labeled poisiono
us despite the fact that people have been making ethanol from grapes, corn,
barley, and even rice (Budwiser) for thousands of years. Blindness does re
sult from drinking methanol, AKA wood alcohol. Methanol may be available a
t the drug store, but it is incompatable with some types of rubber (which i
s why it isn't used in gasoline) and it's probably a bad idea to put it in
your pneumatic system before determining if it is compatible. The devil i
s definitely in the details. > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:32:24 -0500> From:
viperdoc@mindspring.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List
mindspring.com>> > moonshine or Tequila is clear also! Shine definately wil
l clean that linseed oil out of the system or clogg it up. Just depends on
site and date of manufacture.> But seriouisly if you want to mix 50:50 gylc
erine to ETOH, you can get 90% ethyl alcohol for most pharamacies (Rite Aid
has it over the counter).> Don't drink the ethyl alcohol please! You'll go
blind!> Sic> Doc> > -----Original Message-----> >From: "A. Dennis Savarese
" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>> >Sent: Oct 15, 2007 9:12 PM> >To: yak-list@mat
ronics.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: pneumatic cancer> >> >--> Yak-List mess
age posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>> >> >Smirnoff
. It's clear. :-)> >Dennis> >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "W
alter Lannon" <wlannon@persona.ca>> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com>> >Sent: M
onday, October 15, 2007 7:12 PM> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: pneumatic cancer>
a>> >>> >> Doug;> >>> >> If you use Kosher glycerine for the first 50%, wha
t do you use for the > >> last 50? Jack Daniels or Glenlivet??> >>> >> Chee
rs;> >> Walt> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Doug Sapp" <rvflt
d@televar.com>> >> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>> >> Sent: Monday, October 1
5, 2007 4:27 PM> >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: pneumatic cancer> >>> >>> >>> --
,> >>> Glycerin is one of the items used in the preservation of flowers, I
buy > >>> it in truckload quantities in 55 gallon drums (USP grade), so if
anyone > >>> wants any just let me know. Heck, I even have a drum of Kosher
glycerin > >>> which might be preferred by those of you who feel that it i
s important to > >>> have your air line lubricant blessed by a higher power
than just your > >>> A&P. I use it....I need all the help I can get! ;o)>
>>>> >>>> >>> Always Yakin,> >>> Doug> >>>> >>> A. Dennis Savarese wrote:>
arese@elmore.rr.com>> >>>>> >>>> A 50-50 mixture of glycerin and alcohol is
what is recommended.> >>>> Dennis> >>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>> >>>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:53 PM> >>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List:
oede" <jonboede@hotmail.com>> >>>>>> >>>>> I know that people have used Fre
on detectors since they can be borrowed > >>>>> from any number of refriger
ation / air-conditioning folks. I know that > >>>>> manical L-39 folks have
gotten their nitrogen systems to hold for > >>>>> MONTHS by sniffing thing
s out with a Freon detector.> >>>>>> >>>>> Alas, my problem is not so subtl
e. When I turn the main air valve on, > >>>>> my front flap valve and my ba
ck gear handle hiss noticably. :-(> >>>>>> >>>>> Oh well, as Brian points o
ut, I'm embarassingly past all > >>>>> disassemble-and-clean intervals on m
y pneumatic system.> >>>>>> >>>>> Do I really want to fix things up with li
nseed oil? Anybody have a > >>>>> better suggestion that will be kind to al
l the seals in the system?> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" > >>>>>> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>> >>>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: pneumatic cancer> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 20
ch, Mark G CIV Det Cherry > >>>>>> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@nav
y.mil>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone remember what types of sniff detectors a
re out there? It> >>>>>> seems to me that one time I saw a really hard to f
ind leak in a > >>>>>> nitrogen> >>>>>> line.. They filled the tank with so
mething like Argon, and then used > >>>>>> an> >>>>>> Argon sniff detector
that could register detection in some really loss> >>>>>> part per million
category. This thing could find the breath of an> >>>>>> ant... As long as
the ant farted argon. That kind of device will find> >>>>>> the most smalle
st of leaks out there. I know they also make one for> >>>>>> Freon, but of
course we can't pump that stuff into our tanks! This> >>>>>> might not be a
s difficult as it sounds really... I just am not sure > >>>>>> what> >>>>>>
is out on the market and for how much. Ultrasonic leak detectors work,> >>
>>>> but take a LOT of time.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Bitterlich> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com> >>>>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Boede> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 14:50> >>>>>> To: yak-l
ist@matronics.com> >>>>>> Subject: Yak-List: pneumatic cancer> >>>>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> I still had a minor overall leak in my air system (would take se
veral> >>>>>> hours to drop to zero once the master valve was closed) after
> >>>>>> replacing> >>>>>> my front flap valve.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> So I decid
ed to be brilliant and put a couple tablespoons of WD-40 > >>>>>> into> >>>
>>> my air tank.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> This seems to have made the problem much,
much worse.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I can hear hissing throughout the air system, e
ven at the brand new > >>>>>> flap> >>>>>> and gear valves in the front sea
t, and the system won't charge up past> >>>>>> about 25.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I
have since drained the WD-40 and put a little bit of air tool oil in> >>>>>
> the main tank and this week I'm going to disassemble the valves,> >>>>>>
starting with the aforementioned brand new flap valve.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Anyb
ody got any suggestions on what I should be looking for, mistakes > >>>>>>
to> >>>>>> avoid, or just commiseration? :-)> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks,> >>>>>
> Jon> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > ==========
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| Subject: | rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic |
cancer)
No Pappy, you have learned how NOT to get drunk, go blind, and blow up your
airplane... sometimes in excruciating detail.
From: cjpilot710@aol.comDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:42:44 -0400Subject: Re: Y
ak-List: rapid energy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumatic cancer)T
o: yak-list@matronics.com
In a message dated 10/18/2007 1:39:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, viperdoc@
mindspring.com writes:
Man! I LOVE this list! In the last few days, I've learn news ways to get
drunk, go blind, AND blow up my airplane!!!!
And from experts at that!!!
Pappy
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er 18, 2007 11:57 AMTo: yak-list@matronics.comSubject: Yak-List: rapid ener
gy-releasing nitrogen compounds (was: pneumaticcancer)--> Yak-List message
posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM,
Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote:> --> Yak-List
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Essentially, the fire bombers have not flown on the fires we are
currently sweating out. They tried two sorties yesterday, I think,
but without success. The helicopters that the Navy had out yesterday
also weren't too successful as the water they were dropping from
their buckets was evaporating before it hit the fire...humidity
yesterday was from 0% all the way up to 4%. However, today it
appears that the CDF air assetts, as well as the military ones, are
finally aggressively in the air. Rumour is that the DC-10 fire
bomber will be working in our area today.
I keep my Sukhoi and my Interstate at Ramona and they are o.k. even
tho the fires have burned right up to the perimeter of the airport.
My partner in the Sukhoi lives just a mile or so North of the
airport...and at this point, we believe he has lost his
house....nobody can get up in that area to check for sure. There is
another Sukhoi at Ramona and the owner of that airplane has lost his
house.
Ramona is about 20 something miles inland, but I live down on the
coast, and we are all packed up and ready to evacuate. My Yak
buddies in some other coastal communities just to the south of us
have evacuated their homes. Yesterday was ugly and today appears to
be no better.
Roger Baker_______________________________________________________
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Craig Payne wrote:
>
> Must be a bit sporty to fly in those Santa Anna winds, I assume
> that smoke has shut down a few airports also. As I remember,
> Ramona is a firebase facility we we used to clear the pattern and
> taxiway when ever one of the fire bombers headed in/out.
>
> My personal "best" on crosswinds in the CJ was a 30+ Kt component.
> Was not a real pretty landing. Since then I have experienced same
> in a Light Sport out at West Pecos. The key seems to be good low
> speed handling, a wide runway helps too.
>
>
> Craig Payne
> cpayne@joimail.com
>
>
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| Subject: | SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED |
Some good news! It has been determined that my Sukhoi partners'
house DID NOT BURN. All his vegetition was toasted...but the house
is all right. A CJ-6 owner neighbor of his also still has a house.
Rest of the situation is still dicey...although, so far today, the
winds are somewhat less than yesterday.
Darrell Gary, Pres of RPA and Gordon Witter, Regional Director of RPA
live a few miles down the coast from me...and both have had to
evacuate their homes.
The decision has been made to CANCEL DESERT THUNDER IV....which was
scheduled for this coming Thursday thru Sunday. All reservations
have been cancelled at the Fantasy Springs Resort hotel.
Many of you know Vladimir Yastremsky. The area where he lives was
under a mandatory evacuation order. So far, his home is not in short
term jeopardy.
More to follow.
Roger
Baker___________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________
On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Roger Baker wrote:
> Essentially, the fire bombers have not flown on the fires we are
> currently sweating out. They tried two sorties yesterday, I think,
> but without success. The helicopters that the Navy had out
> yesterday also weren't too successful as the water they were
> dropping from their buckets was evaporating before it hit the
> fire...humidity yesterday was from 0% all the way up to 4%.
> However, today it appears that the CDF air assetts, as well as the
> military ones, are finally aggressively in the air. Rumour is that
> the DC-10 fire bomber will be working in our area today.
>
> I keep my Sukhoi and my Interstate at Ramona and they are o.k. even
> tho the fires have burned right up to the perimeter of the
> airport. My partner in the Sukhoi lives just a mile or so North of
> the airport...and at this point, we believe he has lost his
> house....nobody can get up in that area to check for sure. There
> is another Sukhoi at Ramona and the owner of that airplane has lost
> his house.
>
> Ramona is about 20 something miles inland, but I live down on the
> coast, and we are all packed up and ready to evacuate. My Yak
> buddies in some other coastal communities just to the south of us
> have evacuated their homes. Yesterday was ugly and today appears
> to be no better.
>
> Roger Baker_______________________________________________________
> On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Craig Payne wrote:
>
>>
>> Must be a bit sporty to fly in those Santa Anna winds, I assume
>> that smoke has shut down a few airports also. As I remember,
>> Ramona is a firebase facility we we used to clear the pattern and
>> taxiway when ever one of the fire bombers headed in/out.
>>
>> My personal "best" on crosswinds in the CJ was a 30+ Kt
>> component. Was not a real pretty landing. Since then I have
>> experienced same in a Light Sport out at West Pecos. The key seems
>> to be good low speed handling, a wide runway helps too.
>>
>>
>> Craig Payne
>> cpayne@joimail.com
>>
>>
>>
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>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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>>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED |
Thanks for the update, Roger. Please keep us advised.
Spoke with Gordon Witter this morning. His house is covered with ash, but
intact. ...Blitz
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| Subject: | SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED |
Our prayers are with you guys.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Baker
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Yak-List: SoCal Winds & DT IV CANCELLED
Some good news! It has been determined that my Sukhoi partners' house DID
NOT BURN. All his vegetition was toasted...but the house is all right. A
CJ-6 owner neighbor of his also still has a house. Rest of the situation is
still dicey...although, so far today, the winds are somewhat less than
yesterday.
Darrell Gary, Pres of RPA and Gordon Witter, Regional Director of RPA live a
few miles down the coast from me...and both have had to evacuate their
homes.
The decision has been made to CANCEL DESERT THUNDER IV....which was
scheduled for this coming Thursday thru Sunday. All reservations have been
cancelled at the Fantasy Springs Resort hotel.
Many of you know Vladimir Yastremsky. The area where he lives was under a
mandatory evacuation order. So far, his home is not in short term jeopardy.
More to follow.
Roger
Baker_______________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________
On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Roger Baker wrote:
Essentially, the fire bombers have not flown on the fires we are currently
sweating out. They tried two sorties yesterday, I think, but without
success. The helicopters that the Navy had out yesterday also weren't too
successful as the water they were dropping from their buckets was
evaporating before it hit the fire...humidity yesterday was from 0% all the
way up to 4%. However, today it appears that the CDF air assetts, as well
as the military ones, are finally aggressively in the air. Rumour is that
the DC-10 fire bomber will be working in our area today.
I keep my Sukhoi and my Interstate at Ramona and they are o.k. even tho the
fires have burned right up to the perimeter of the airport. My partner in
the Sukhoi lives just a mile or so North of the airport...and at this point,
we believe he has lost his house....nobody can get up in that area to check
for sure. There is another Sukhoi at Ramona and the owner of that airplane
has lost his house.
Ramona is about 20 something miles inland, but I live down on the coast, and
we are all packed up and ready to evacuate. My Yak buddies in some other
coastal communities just to the south of us have evacuated their homes.
Yesterday was ugly and today appears to be no better.
Roger Baker_______________________________________________________
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Craig Payne wrote:
Must be a bit sporty to fly in those Santa Anna winds, I assume that smoke
has shut down a few airports also. As I remember, Ramona is a firebase
facility we we used to clear the pattern and taxiway when ever one of the
fire bombers headed in/out.
My personal "best" on crosswinds in the CJ was a 30+ Kt component. Was not
a real pretty landing. Since then I have experienced same in a Light Sport
out at West Pecos. The key seems to be good low speed handling, a wide
runway helps too.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Desert Thunder IV CANCELLED |
- - -Desert Thunder IV- HAS BEEN CANCELLED!--
- - The San Diego fire situation is responsible.- All reservations
at
Fantasy Springs have been cancelled.- At some point in the near
future,
all Event Fees that have been paid to RPA via Windstar Communities will
be refunded.
- - More info will come your way after the immediacy of the fire
situation has subsided.
-- -Pressing questions can be addressed to Gordon Witter at
760/755-5287.
Barry Hancock
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Group,
I counted 4 fire bombers taking off from fox Field
(Lancaster, CA) and one landing as I drove by on my way to
California City Airport.
Currently have freinds from San Diego (mandatory evac),
staying in my California City home.
Worked all day and got one of my hanger finished enough to
pull my YAK-52 in from the winds.
Laterrr
John Fischer
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: SoCal Winds
> Essentially, the fire bombers have not flown on the fires
> we are currently sweating out. They tried two sorties
> yesterday, I think, but without success. The
> helicopters that the Navy had out yesterday also weren't
> too successful as the water they were dropping from
> their buckets was evaporating before it hit the
> fire...humidity yesterday was from 0% all the way up to
> 4%. However, today it appears that the CDF air assetts,
> as well as the military ones, are finally aggressively
> in the air. Rumour is that the DC-10 fire bomber will
> be working in our area today.
>
> I keep my Sukhoi and my Interstate at Ramona and they are
> o.k. even tho the fires have burned right up to the
> perimeter of the airport. My partner in the Sukhoi
> lives just a mile or so North of the airport...and at
> this point, we believe he has lost his house....nobody
> can get up in that area to check for sure. There is
> another Sukhoi at Ramona and the owner of that airplane
> has lost his house.
>
> Ramona is about 20 something miles inland, but I live down
> on the coast, and we are all packed up and ready to
> evacuate. My Yak buddies in some other coastal
> communities just to the south of us have evacuated their
> homes. Yesterday was ugly and today appears to be no
> better.
>
> Roger
> Baker_____________________________________________________
> __ On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Craig Payne wrote:
>
> >
> > Must be a bit sporty to fly in those Santa Anna winds, I
> > assume that smoke has shut down a few airports also.
> > As I remember, Ramona is a firebase facility we we
> > used to clear the pattern and taxiway when ever one of
> the fire bombers headed in/out. >
> > My personal "best" on crosswinds in the CJ was a 30+ Kt
> > component. Was not a real pretty landing. Since then I
> > have experienced same in a Light Sport out at West
> > Pecos. The key seems to be good low speed handling, a
> wide runway helps too. >
> >
> > Craig Payne
> > cpayne@joimail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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