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1. 06:07 AM - Re: A26 (tayl7696@bellsouth.net)
2. 09:48 AM - Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (DaBear)
3. 10:17 AM - Re: A26 (Doug Sapp)
4. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Jetj01@aol.com)
5. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
6. 03:15 PM - Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Tim Gagnon)
7. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Jetj01@aol.com)
8. 03:54 PM - 2008 Oshkosh Acomodations (Forrest Johnson)
9. 04:20 PM - Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (GreasySideUp)
10. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
11. 06:36 PM - Yak 55 vs 50 (Herb Coussons)
12. 07:58 PM - Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Tim Gagnon)
13. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Jetj01@aol.com)
14. 08:30 PM - Central RPA Fly-In (Jon Boede)
15. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (viperdoc)
16. 09:16 PM - Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Tim Gagnon)
17. 09:27 PM - Re: Central RPA Fly-In (viperdoc)
18. 10:14 PM - Re: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia (Brian Lloyd)
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Not sure if it's an Onmark but WarBird Connection has one for sale.
http://www.warbirdconnection.com/forsale.htm
Hope this helps.
JT
-------------- Original message from Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>: --------------
Roger
Thanks, saw it last week, it is too rough.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Baker
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: A26
Joe,
Check with Mark Clark at Courtesy Aircraft. He has an Onmark A-26C for sale
cheap....but it's pretty rough. (courtesyaircraft.com)
Roger Baker________________________________________________________
On Oct 24, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Joe Howse wrote:
Anyone know of an A26 Onmark for sale?
Joe
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<P>Not sure if it's an Onmark but WarBird Connection has one for sale.</P>
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<DIV> Check with Mark Clark at Courtesy Aircraft.
He has an Onmark A-26C for sale cheap....but it's pretty rough. (courtesyaircraft.com)</DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
If you are interested in flying a CJ with the M14P, give me a call.
Dabear
>
>
> Hello everyone, I've been cruising these boards for a year now (I'm all
> caught up on Bernoulli running the landing gear) and finally am making a
> post. A while ago Tim G talked me into buying a 50, I was all set to pull
> the trigger when a volunteer opportunity to go to the sand box came up.
> Awesome opportunity but it set me back about a year. I'm on leave right
> now, I'll be heading back soon and then am hoping to buy early spring time
> frame when I get back.
>
> Seems like there are no 50's on the market right now, if you have any
> leads
> please let me know.
>
> Brings me to my request. Is there anyone in the Virginia area who needs
> some gas money thrown through their 52? I still have yet to fly in one,
> would love to see how they work and above all the weather out here is
> absolutely gorgeous!
>
> The conversations on this board are definitely interesting, It seems
> like a
> fantastic community. I can't wait to join with my own Yak.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
>
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Joe,
Years back I flew a Onmark converted A26 here at Omak, it belonged to a
company called Blue Dog Aviation. It had a exec. red leather interior,
and was absolutely beautiful. It was sold into Alaska and (sorry to
say) was stripped out and used to dust coal dust on the tundra to make
the snow melt faster so they could lay the pipeline earlier in the
spring rather than having to wait for the snow melt to happen. I was
told (5-6 years ago)that it was still sitting at Anchorage. A FAA
search might turn it up.
Good luck
Doug
Joe Howse wrote:
> Anyone know of an A26 Onmark for sale?
>
> Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
We have a 1979 YAK 50 in silver with red trim, military type paint scheme,
for sale. $69K unassembled or $74 assembled and flying. All approprate ADs
complied with otherwise a bone stock Russian airplane.
Any interest give me a call at 940-613-2797
Jj
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
Who's "we" ?? What's the history on the aircraft? How many hours? Do
you have the Russian logbooks? How many rebuilds on the engine? Is the
engine a first or second generation M-14P ?? Assume the spar mod has
been done? What kind of covering is on the control surfaces and when
was it done? When was it last airworthy? Has it got any kind of
registration yet?
Mark Bitterlich
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Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia
We have a 1979 YAK 50 in silver with red trim, military type paint
scheme, for sale. $69K unassembled or $74 assembled and flying. All
approprate ADs complied with otherwise a bone stock Russian airplane.
Any interest give me a call at 940-613-2797
Jj
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
Also...who did the overhaul?
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
In a message dated 10/25/2007 4:59:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
Who's "we" WE are Jj Johnson and Dave Hilker. WE currently own a 1975 YAK
50 and a 1985 YAK 50 which we have been flying going on 5 years. In the last
three years WE have imported another 1985 YAK 50 (23 hours TT) and a 1979
YAK 50 both of which sold to two gentleman in Alabama. About a month ago WE
sold a 1984 YAK 50 (55 hours total time) to someone in New Jersey. So now WE
have one remaining 1979 YAK 50 which we imported from Russia, as per the other
ones?? What's the history on the aircraft? Our friend in Russia found
this one at an aeroclub disassembled. How many hours? Not sure on this one but
quite low I'm sure. Do
you have the Russian logbooks? ??? I'll find outHow many rebuilds on the
engine? Zero since overhaul Is the
engine a first or second generation M-14P ?? First gen Russian engine
Assume the spar mod has
been done? All mods accomplished at the factory in Russian What kind of
covering is on the control surfaces and when
was it done? Ceconite and I think 2002 When was it last airworthy? Not
sure, if like the others not since 80s??? Has it got any kind of
registration yet? No. Only have room to build up one at a time so just
finished the 1984, moving on to this one. Takes about two weeks. The FAA rep
has been coming out to issue the AW.
This paint scheme looks great and when we received the airplane the air was
still holding pressure in the lines. Seems like another great YAK 50. And
once you have flown one, yo'll know what I mean. I am a military fighter
pilot and also have 2000 hours in civilian aircraft. Nothing is as fun to fly
as
a YAK 50. It simply talks to you and is very pilot friendly. Yes there are
better aerobatic airplanes these days but none look better or fly overall
better. My '75 will cruise cross country at 180 mph doing 12 gph and fly hands
off when trimmed. Great plane!
Jj
Mark Bitterlich
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| Subject: | 2008 Oshkosh Acomodations |
I stayed here in the past- GREAT!
Joey McKay-Neumann
1055 Weat 19th Ave.
Oshkosh, Wi. 54902
ph 902 235 2352
E-mail: joeymc3@juno.com
includes: breakfast, bedding&linens,
dorm style basement 6 to 8 people
one block from airport and shuttle to warbird area
no smoking in the house
Price: $70 per night.
50% deposit required
Two week cancellation
I have reserved Mon. thru Sat. Will fill up fast.
Forrest'FLUSH" Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
Thanks for all the replies! I'm not going to be able to do anything until Aprilish
timeframe as far as buying but keep the available ones comming(STS). Hopefully
the dollar is doing a bit better then but right now the Euro is crushing
anything I could buy over there. Tim, say it isn't so that there will be one
available in Ohio, or at least say that you are upgrading to that Lavochkin
available at Courtesy.
DaBear I'd love to run some gas through your bird, I'm in Virginia for another
week on leave. How can I get a hold of you?
-j
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
Thanks for the info Jj. WE here in New Bern (that would be me, myself
and I) have owned a few YAK-50's ourselves. Currently with around 700
hours in make and model over the last 8 years. WE think it is one hell
of an aircraft as well, and are thinking of purchasing another. WE also
have many friends either from Russia or in Russia, and have learned
caution the hard way.
Excuse me for being a nit-picker, but really... WE have to be when
dealing with ANYTHING coming in from Russia.
1. When I asked about the spar mod, you repeated that "all mods have
been done by the factory in Russia".
Question: Since you do not have the Russian Logbooks, what written
evidence do you have of that please? Do you have a list of completed
mods done by the overhaul facility, by number with QA stamps
accordingly? Typically this list is included with the Russian logbooks,
but possibly you have some sort of stand alone documentation? Did you
personally inspect the aircraft for this modification? My guess is that
you have not.
2. When I asked about the Russian logbooks you replied: "I'll find out"
as in, you'll find out if you have them or not.
Question: Does this mean you have not to date seen them? What logbooks
then do you have?
3. When asked about when it was last airworthy, you replied: "Not sure
but if like the others not since the 80's"
Question: Are you saying then that the aircraft was totally overhauled
and then never test flown?
4. When asked about history you replied: "Found at an aero club
disassembled" You failed to mention any overhaul, but it appears that
one in fact was done?
Question: So did your friend then take it to the overhaul facility?
Which one? What documentation do you have on that?
5. When asked about when the control surface were covered you replied:
"Ceconite and I think 2002".
Comment: No YAK-50 was ever originally covered with artificial fabric.
So I am assuming that this Ceconite was put on during the overhaul? And
that this overhaul happened in 2002? Is that accurate? I am guessing
Romania? What happened between 2002 and 2007?
6. When asked about hours your replied: "Not sure, but quite low I'm
sure".
Comment: Yes, typically the Russians never put many hours on their 50's.
Especially the older ones. They would yank them around pulling up to
11G's, and then around 50 hours or so, would actually retire them. This
of course was after a couple of them had the wings fold up and kill the
pilots. That is why to this day the aircraft is actually airframe
limited depending on the number and amount of G loading. However,
without the logbooks, that information is impossible to discover, hence
one can not really be sure about the wings.
7. When asked about hours on the engine, you replied: "Zero since
overhaul".
Comment: That would again infer that it was not even test flown since
overhaul? However, Russian overhaul facilities rarely would even rip an
engine apart if it had less than 100 hours on it. If it was indeed
overhauled, which in Russia can actually mean many different things,
then only the Russian engine logs would give any clue on exactly what,
or what not, has been done during that overhaul.
Based on what you have said here, I am assuming that the aircraft was
found disassembled, and it was then either assembled, or shipped
disassembled to some overhaul facility, someplace. It then was
overhauled, by somebody. Then this same somebody, somewhere, apparently
then updated the aircraft with all applicable updates generated by the
YAK bureau, where it was then shipped directly to you?
You mentioned that the aircraft was still holding pressure "in the
lines" when you received it. Again I am curious. What lines do you
speak of? I mean the wings are off the airplane right? All the air
lines should be disconnected I would imagine. Did you mean there was
air in the bottles?
And a final comment: The maximum listed wide open throttle airspeed of
a YAK-50 is advertised as right at 200 mph or around 174 knots. Mine
won't go QUITE that fast. Of course, at WFO throttle setting the fuel
burn is pretty staggering. Your YAK-50 does 180 mph or 156 knots with a
12 GPH fuel burn? My 50 will fly at 156 knots as well. Power setting
for this speed is about 80-85% At this power setting I'm burning rather
more than 12 GPH.
Question: Does ANYONE else on this list who owns a YAK-50 cruise at 156
knots with a 12 gallon per hour burn?
Jj, I believe you've probably got one of the best YAK-50's in the world
with that cruise speed and fuel burn. I've currently flown four
YAK-50's, one of them all the way across the United States and not one
of them would come close to matching yours. Hold on to that one, it's
pretty special.
As for my questions, when WE/YOU advertise a price of $74 GRAND for a
1979 YAK-50 then I hope it is understood that questions like this are
pretty much mandatory. The Spar Mod was not incorporated on factory
built 50's until the 1980's. 1970 vintage YAK-50's need to be actually
inspected by sight to insure that this all important modification has
been done. It can not be "assumed" it has to be visually sight
inspected. Any YAK-50 owner with an aircraft built in the 70's who has
not visually inspected this modification his or her self is making one
huge and dangerous mistake. Without this mod, a 5G limitation is
mandatory, and even that is stretching it. You can buy the best looking
YAK-50 on this planet, but if it turns out later that the "Spar Mod" has
not been done, that beauty just went down about $20 GRAND or more in
value.
Caveat Emptor
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jetj01@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 18:27
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia
In a message dated 10/25/2007 4:59:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes:
Who's "we" WE are Jj Johnson and Dave Hilker. WE currently own
a 1975 YAK 50 and a 1985 YAK 50 which we have been flying going on 5
years. In the last three years WE have imported another 1985 YAK 50 (23
hours TT) and a 1979 YAK 50 both of which sold to two gentleman in
Alabama. About a month ago WE sold a 1984 YAK 50 (55 hours total time)
to someone in New Jersey. So now WE have one remaining 1979 YAK 50
which we imported from Russia, as per the other ones?? What's the
history on the aircraft? Our friend in Russia found this one at an
aeroclub disassembled. How many hours? Not sure on this one but quite
low I'm sure. Do
you have the Russian logbooks? ??? I'll find outHow many
rebuilds on the engine? Zero since overhaul Is the
engine a first or second generation M-14P ?? First gen Russian
engine Assume the spar mod has
been done? All mods accomplished at the factory in Russian
What kind of covering is on the control surfaces and when
was it done? Ceconite and I think 2002 When was it last
airworthy? Not sure, if like the others not since 80s??? Has it got
any kind of
registration yet? No. Only have room to build up one at a time
so just finished the 1984, moving on to this one. Takes about two
weeks. The FAA rep has been coming out to issue the AW.
This paint scheme looks great and when we received the airplane the air
was still holding pressure in the lines. Seems like another great YAK
50. And once you have flown one, yo'll know what I mean. I am a
military fighter pilot and also have 2000 hours in civilian aircraft.
Nothing is as fun to fly as a YAK 50. It simply talks to you and is
very pilot friendly. Yes there are better aerobatic airplanes these
days but none look better or fly overall better. My '75 will cruise
cross country at 180 mph doing 12 gph and fly hands off when trimmed.
Great plane!
Jj
Mark Bitterlich
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Guys,
I have seen many threads over the last 5 years that compare in
infinite detail the Yak52 and the CJ.
And even some hints at 52 vs 50.
Anyone out there have direct comparison of the 50 to the 55? I have
been flying a 55 for about 2 months now and find it head and
shoulders above the 52 for maneuverablity, agility, power to weight,
speed, etc. It seems like the areas the 55 excels in are also the
areas that people talk up in the 50 to 52 comparison. So anyone
venture to compare, especially if you have flown them both.
Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
I can get 150+ knots with less than that fuel burn....downhill with the throttle
at idle! But I guess that is not cruise...;)
JJ...what facility did the overhaul? Was it the same folks that did Docs airplane?
Regardless....the -50 is a wonderful airplane. There was an article in a recent
aviation rag that was all about wanna be fighters. It included some cool airplanes
such as the Suks, Pitts, Extra's and finally the CJ-6/Yak-52. Nothing was
mentioned about the -50, which to me, is about as close to a wanna be fighter
you can get for any amount of money.
Josh...the La-9 is a bit of a stretch. I have an emotional attachment to the -50...hard
to break that.
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
We have the original Russian logs books.
The 79 YAK 50 has 220 hours
It is a Russian overhaul
All mods done
Any other questions, 940-613-2797
Jj
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| Subject: | Central RPA Fly-In |
Barry pointed out that our Central RPA Fly-In date, currently scheduled for
May, conflicts with the Fly-In on the west coast.
I'm looking for suggestions... it will be near Dallas, so the temps will be
reasonable starting in March, but I'm not sure if people would rather see it
earlier in April or later in June, or if y'all think that because of the
distance it doesn't really conflict with the west coast event.
jon
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
Besides the $850 K they want for that very rare bird.
I am seeing 12 gal/hr @ 64% with a cruise 240 kph (kilometers)
@ 70% and 700 mmHg, she jumps up to 260 kph and burns 15 gal/hr. I do not
spend much time cruising around at 80% in the straight an level so the fuel
burn has not been correlated. If I have the throttle pushed up to 80%, you
can bet I'm adjusting my attitude at somewhere around 6G's. She does a
really nice 500 ft diameter loop at 70% however and it feels like a 52 at
80%!
Shakety Is the facility that did my overhaul (IRAN) in 2002. She then went
back into mothballs until it was shipped to the US in 2005. She has had a
very solid engine and the airframe overall has been sound too. Mine is a 78,
the spar mod was done and a list of YAK ads were annotated in my log books
also. The spar mod is real easy to verify for that matter.
I had a problem with my tailwheel aft shock absorber. The bearing attaching
it to the aft bulkhead was worn out. A new steel aft bulkhead U clamp had
been installed though.
The paint job was not of Lithuanian quality as is on the 52, but she had her
on series of irritating problems. So what I'm saying is, if you want a
perfect airplane don't buy a YAK 50, 52 or a CJ for that matter. When you
buy one of these birds you pretty well have committed yourself to a world of
fun flying and at least 1 to 2 days/week doing maintenance of some type to
continually make her/them better. But they are military aircraft not
flathead spam cans for lands sake.
There ain't no sound like that of a Round! If it is attached to the nose of
a 50, well then you really are having some fun on a mear pentenance of what
it would cost to fly your YAK 9, LA-9, P-51, Corsair, or other piece of
expensive WW II iron!
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:57 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia
I can get 150+ knots with less than that fuel burn....downhill with the
throttle at idle! But I guess that is not cruise...;)
JJ...what facility did the overhaul? Was it the same folks that did Docs
airplane?
Regardless....the -50 is a wonderful airplane. There was an article in a
recent aviation rag that was all about wanna be fighters. It included some
cool airplanes such as the Suks, Pitts, Extra's and finally the CJ-6/Yak-52.
Nothing was mentioned about the -50, which to me, is about as close to a
wanna be fighter you can get for any amount of money.
Josh...the La-9 is a bit of a stretch. I have an emotional attachment to the
-50...hard to break that.
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Who in Russia did the overhaul?
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| Subject: | Central RPA Fly-In |
Jon,
Go to the ICAS website and look at the tentatively planned air show schedule
for next year. On any given weekend starting in Mar, you can count on there
being some air show you are going to conflict with. Your problem is going to
be getting Check pilots and flight leads for whatever weekend you chose if
there is a paying air show that weekend. Dallas is far enough away from Cal/
Oregon/ Illinois/ Fl /GA to not impact much that they are doing.
Pick a weekend that works for you and all your friends that are interested
in coming and go for it!
Good luck,
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Boede
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Central RPA Fly-In
Barry pointed out that our Central RPA Fly-In date, currently scheduled for
May, conflicts with the Fly-In on the west coast.
I'm looking for suggestions... it will be near Dallas, so the temps will be
reasonable starting in March, but I'm not sure if people would rather see it
earlier in April or later in June, or if y'all think that because of the
distance it doesn't really conflict with the west coast event.
jon
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction/burning fuel in Virginia |
On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:14 PM, viperdoc wrote:
> on series of irritating problems. So what I'm saying is, if you want a
> perfect airplane don't buy a YAK 50, 52 or a CJ for that matter.
> When you
> buy one of these birds you pretty well have committed yourself to a
> world of
> fun flying and at least 1 to 2 days/week doing maintenance of some
> type to
> continually make her/them better. But they are military aircraft not
> flathead spam cans for lands sake.
Well, my experience with my first CJ6A is that I put gas in it,
changed the oil, adjusted the valves, changed the brake pads a couple
of times, and flew the hell out of it. It was amazingly reliable and
trouble free.
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