---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/04/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:23 AM - List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle) 1. 12:02 AM - IFR Check Ride in a 2 seat tandem airplane (Shinden33) 2. 07:09 AM - What is up with this 50? (GreasySideUp) 3. 07:23 AM - Re: What is up with this 50? Modded turtledeck? (Tim Gagnon) 4. 07:36 AM - Re: What is up with this 50? (Roger Baker) 5. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: What is up with this 50? Modded turtledeck? (Richard Goode) 6. 12:29 PM - Re: IFR Check Ride in a 2 seat tandem airplane (Roger Kemp) 7. 12:47 PM - Re: Last day of the tour & nomex (viperdoc) 8. 12:49 PM - Re: What is up with this 50? (Roger Kemp) 9. 12:58 PM - FW: Yak-50s incl one modded for WWII movie in Russia (Roger Kemp) 10. 01:05 PM - A Possible Solution to the Nomex/Flight Suit Issue (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 11. 01:22 PM - Yak-52 com radio side tone (Jerry Painter) 12. 06:06 PM - Yak 52 vs CJ 6 Flight Charistics (B747crew) 13. 07:08 PM - Re: VPCI-415 Heavy Duty Degreaser (Dale) 14. 10:41 PM - Re: Re: VPCI-415 Heavy Duty Degreaser (Jon Boede) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:01 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Yak-List: List Fund Raiser Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something for everyone! Please make a Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:01 AM PST US From: "Shinden33" Subject: Yak-List: IFR Check Ride in a 2 seat tandem airplane Anyone have any experience with IFR checkrides in 2 seat tandem airplanes? S ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:05 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: What is up with this 50? From: "GreasySideUp" Never seen one like this before, what is the deal with the turtle deck. Is this stock or modded? Listed as an 87 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143771#143771 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1987_yak_50_204.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:41 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: What is up with this 50? Modded turtledeck? From: "Tim Gagnon" GreasySideUp wrote: > Never seen one like this before, what is the deal with the turtle deck. Is this stock or modded? Listed as an 87, I either love it or hate it, still undecided. Deep 6 vis is non existent but it has that P-40 look. Definitely different. Used for a movie as Lavochkins. I think that particular airplane has been put back into original condition and may even be in the US now. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143778#143778 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:04 AM PST US From: Roger Baker Subject: Re: Yak-List: What is up with this 50? It is certainly modified. I was told that it was modified for a movie to look like a Great Patriotic War fighter plane. Come to think of it, it does resemble a Lavochkin quite a bit. Attached is a photo that I took of at at Zhukovsky on August 23rd. Roger On Nov 4, 2007, at 7:07 AM, GreasySideUp wrote: > > > Never seen one like this before, what is the deal with the turtle > deck. Is this stock or modded? Listed as an 87 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143771#143771 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1987_yak_50_204.jpg > >
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:00 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: What is up with this 50? Modded turtledeck? Also-no Yak 50 made in 1987! Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Gagnon To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: What is up with this 50? Modded turtledeck? GreasySideUp wrote: > Never seen one like this before, what is the deal with the turtle deck. Is this stock or modded? Listed as an 87, I either love it or hate it, s till undecided. Deep 6 vis is non existent but it has that P-40 look. Def initely different. Used for a movie as Lavochkins. I think that particular airplane has bee n put back into original condition and may even be in the US now. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143778#143778 =========== =========== =========== =========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.invictawiz.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:29 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: IFR Check Ride in a 2 seat tandem airplane Don't know if the email from my palm got through. If not let me know. Answer is yes. Have you got your back seat setup for IFR the same as the front. Traditionally, (in the AF student training) that is, the instrument check ride is flown from the backset under a hood (generally with a curtain pulled over the backset of the tandom trainer). Later in the course of training or once operational the check ride may be flown with the IP flying on your wing on a formation approach in VMC weather with the IP monitoring the approach from the chase position. Some of the AF/Navy prior life IPs can elaborate more. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33 Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:01 AM Subject: Yak-List: IFR Check Ride in a 2 seat tandem airplane Anyone have any experience with IFR checkrides in 2 seat tandem airplanes? S ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:40 PM PST US From: "viperdoc" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Last day of the tour & nomex Pappy, Being off the tour has its pluses and minuses. As for the appearance of the aviator in his spiffy Nomex atire,well the CO (along with your fellow squadron mates) would remind you quit quickly if you were slipping out of the "image". Generally they would get one's attention with the CO's comment of something like" when's the due date?" On the occasion that I had enjoyed the nectar of the hops and strayed from the gym to long. However during times that I was flying 3 sorties a week weight control was not an issue. Being young and foolish did not hurt either! The problems started after crossing the 4th decade mark and now 5th Decade MARK! Face it, we Americans and others too, enjoy an abundant life style. For all that we can thank our Creator for! To have the privilege to break the surless in the iron we get to fly and drink a beer with your buds afterward talking flying is a true blessing. Now when you get to add some Viper time to that, then life really is good! 1.6 Friday! Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Yak-List: Last day of the tour & nomex Well I flew the last ride of the season on the B-24 here at St. Augustine. The air was smooth and CAVU. I let the co-pilot make his first takeoff and landing and he did well. Tomorrow we set course south to New Smyna where airplanes will be for the next 2 mouths going though heavy maintenance at American Aero. The B-24 is due for an engine change (#3) and a change to P2V brakes. Their parts are more really availible. Also she will have new fuel tanks installed. Me and my CJ are going to spend some time together. I plan on adding MX weather to my AvMap GPS. Than I'll add a audio panel and a "plug and Play" wiring box, that will simplify the wiring behind the panel. Than I'll be putting an autopilot in. Nothing fancy, just a heading and GPS course, wing leveler. Altitude hold will come much later. Some touch-up painting. Than I've been working of a super secret speed enhancement project that will bring me millions from the CJ pilots of America. :))) It does not matter to get up set about the nomex issue. It would not matter one iota to the dissenters, if 75% members voted to wear them. They would not ever accept it. It does not matter that guys with the same back grounds, experiences, and smarts as they, made those decisions with the best of intention for those with far less experience. And even those decisions were a compromise from far more "restrictions". They never really want to be part of the sprite-de-corp because they consider it juvenile. One simply need read the bemeaning statements they make about how some folks look in "bags". I often wonder if they ever made those same view about nomex to their CO's or to their corp while they played the game. And now I hit the sack. Tomorrow I get to play with the B-24 one last time for a while. Than I get to play with my CJ. Thus continues the game of life - "bags" and all. :) Jim "Pappy" Goolsby _____ See what's new ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:43 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: What is up with this 50? That very airplane is for sale in RU. It was setup that way to resemble the Lavochkin as you stated for a movie. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Baker Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: What is up with this 50? It is certainly modified. I was told that it was modified for a movie to look like a Great Patriotic War fighter plane. Come to think of it, it does resemble a Lavochkin quite a bit. Attached is a photo that I took of at at Zhukovsky on August 23rd. Roger ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:28 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp" Subject: Yak-List: FW: Yak-50s incl one modded for WWII movie in Russia Subject: Yak-50s incl one modded for WWII movie in Russia Got to the following link to plane check.org to see the pixs. Doc Image removed by sender. Dear , The below aircraft information may be of interest to you: 1987 Yakovlev Yak-50 USD Inquire based Russia, offered by Eugene 1985 Yakovlev Yak-52 i USD Inquire based Russia, offered by Eugene The presented aircraft correspond to the selection as defined by your PlaneAlert type preferences. If you want to change your settings, please visit PlaneCheck, log in and alter your PlaneAlert type preferences. Regards, The PlaneCheck Team __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:10 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: A Possible Solution to the Nomex/Flight Suit Issue From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Folks: Let me first preface this with the fact that I know many of you have been thru this issue before. However, it seems as though no real solution was found or there would not be the vehement responses posted by some members of the community. I understand organizational value of a uniform for many reasons. All groups from your local softball team to the Boy Scouts to the military wear uniforms. So the founders of the RPA wanted participants at RPA events to look like they were part of an organization and not just a gaggle of pilots who fly airplanes the have engines that turn the wrong way and leak oil all over the ground. So I was thinking about why my cadets, their parents and us senior members go out and spend money to buy uniforms for CAP. It is so we can participate in what CAP offers and not just be a member. You see, CAP has people who pay dues that we never see at meetings, in airplanes or anywhere else. Then there are those of us who buy uniforms so we can participate because we find value in not just being a member but participating in the organization. The value of participation is the training, fun, friendship, etc. Now for the good part. CAP has two types of uniforms. One is a military style uniform and the other is called a corporate uniform. To wear military style uniforms, you must meet height, weight and grooming standards of the USAF. The sage green flight suit is one of these along with Class A, Class B and BDUs. To be inclusive of members who do not want to, or cannot, meet grooming standards, or height weight requirements, in comes the corporate uniform. It is a blue sport shirt with the CAP logo (two styles approved) and grey pants and black shoes. There is also an alternate flight suit that is navy blue and is not made of nomex. So here is what the RPA could do. Come up with an alternate uniform to the flight suit for RPA events. It could be something like the RPA red polo shirt (with logo) and some color pants, and appropriate shoes. This way, those who want to wear flight suits can and those that don't could wear the alternate uniform and could participate in RPA events. This keeps the organization cohesive, fosters esprit-de-corps, and is inclusive of all members. Thanks for your time. Thoughts please, Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143824#143824 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:04 PM PST US From: "Jerry Painter" Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 com radio side tone One of our Yak-52's com (standard Russian radio) has lost its side tone. No change we know of that would have affected it. Ideas? Jerry Painter Wild Blue Aviation www.JP@FlyWBA.com www.FlyWBA.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:42 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 vs CJ 6 Flight Charistics From: "B747crew" I am presently in the market for a Yak 52 but am also considering the CJ 6. I've flown the CJ and have found it to be quite forgiving on reaching the stall buffett in aerobatic high g turns. It doesn't want to break over the top or snap . I've not flown the Yak but have read that the 52 will tend to snap over the top in the same situation much like a SU 29. I've owned both a T-6 and SU 29 and understand stall spin charistics fairly well but I'd like input from the experienced drivers in this forum on the specifics of the Yak. -------- Jack Snodgrass 4305 Claridge Ct. Apex, NC 27539 808-371-2739 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143889#143889 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:24 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: VPCI-415 Heavy Duty Degreaser From: "Dale" Have you ever looked at Evergreen's product called Sufasol-315. It is anti corrosive and works great. It is from Canada. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143906#143906 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:29 PM PST US From: "Jon Boede" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: VPCI-415 Heavy Duty Degreaser Any opinions on using Goop hand cleaner to cut the really ugly stuff? Anybody know if it's friendly with aluminum? Jon >From: "Dale" >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Re: VPCI-415 Heavy Duty Degreaser >Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:07:54 -0800 > > >Have you ever looked at Evergreen's product called Sufasol-315. It is anti >corrosive and works great. It is from Canada. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143906#143906 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.