Today's Message Index:
----------------------
0. 12:43 AM - If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) (Matt Dralle)
1. 12:50 AM - Re: Brain buckets (Shinden33)
2. 03:58 AM - Re: Brain buckets (fougapilot)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Brain buckets (Herb Coussons)
4. 08:52 AM - Re: Best EFIS in a Yak/CJ (LawnDart)
5. 10:13 AM - Byron Fox (alikatz@mbay.net)
6. 12:32 PM - Yahoo Yak-50 group..... (Tim Gagnon)
7. 01:13 PM - Gas and helmet choice (Drew)
8. 04:42 PM - Find the Yak-50 in this picture (Tim Gagnon)
9. 07:36 PM - Re: Avgas Prices (Mozam)
10. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Brain buckets (Herb Coussons)
11. 08:56 PM - Re: Need ZY-1500 regulator (mrfrankguo)
12. 09:50 PM - Hot list of Hongdu made CJ6 (mrfrankguo)
13. 10:17 PM - Re: Re: Brain buckets (fish@aviation-tech.com)
14. 10:37 PM - Re: Find the Yak-50 in this picture (Yak Pilot)
15. 11:49 PM - Re: Re: Best EFIS in a Yak/CJ (Cliff Coy)
Message 0
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Doug,
I was told by some AF types that the HGU-55 was designed to protect the
pilot from the after effects of a bird strike on a Viper canopy at ~500kts.
The canopy damage is only supposed to be a rather substantial dent. Never
saw anything in the form of actual data.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Brain buckets
Tim or anyone,
I have heard this same statement ("55 offers very little impact
protection") many times, but have never actually seen any "official"
testing results that might confirm claim. Could anyone out there tell
me where the impact rating of all the various helmets could be found?
What is the best helmet for impact protection?
Always Yakin,
Doug
Tim Gagnon wrote:
>
>Just remember the -55/P offers virtually no impact protection. They are not
intended to. They are there for earphones and a place to put an oxygen mask.
Not much more.
>
>I find the helmet restricts headroom in the -50 and I have been using a
cloth helmet with DC's. It offers better attenuation and is a whole lot
cheaper. Plus, like Doc, I got my helmet for free via the ANG.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144224#144224
>
>
>
>
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brain buckets |
When I was looking to buy a new helmet last year, I did a bunch of reading online
and had made my mind n a Helicopter helmet because of the increased protection.
But, after speaking with the folks at flightsuit, I opted for the standard
HGU-55. There are many advantage to either helmets, but I felt that the -55
would be better for the type of flying I do.
One has to look at helicopter flying to understand the need for extra shell protection.
When a helicopter goes down (along with the pilots might I add) there
is a significant chance that it may not stay upright upon "landing", the extra
shell protection was designed to protect the head against the very likely side
impacts one's cranium would sustain in such an event. However, as anything
comes with a price this increased in side protection also means an increases in
weight (about 2lbs more if memory serves). I don't know about you, but when
I do acro, I much prefer having a light weight helmet.
Flightsuits offers both the -33 and the -55 in Kevlar. The Kevlar helmet is a little
more expensive ($100ish) but provides with an increased protection (over
the standard helmet) while retaining a lesser weight.
The -55 helmet was designed for fighter pilots and offers many advantage for our
type of flying. It has both the front and rear "spaces" cut very high. This
offer and improved field of vision. The front is cut off high enough so I do not
see the helmet. The rear cut is specifically designed to offer freedom of head
movement. The helmet does not restrict my head movement!.
My CJ has an advantage over a helicopter; it had fixed wings. The chances of having
it rolled on me during a "controlled" off site landing are small simply because
said wings should absorb any rolling tendency. If I find myself in a position
where I no longer control the airplane (either because of a midair or structural
failure) then I would like to hope I will think of using another safety
item I carry on board with me and let the airplane do it's own thing while
I watch from the comfort of my parachute. The -55 was designed for parachute
landings.
At the end of the day, there is no right and no wrong. In my book, having the light
weight and increased field of vision outweigh the "limited" increase in protection
from a heavier helmet.
My 2 cents, to each his own.
Dan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144806#144806
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brain buckets |
Dan,
Excellent post. I also picked the 33 in Kevlar for the low weight and
range of movement. Having known acro pilots that have hit the canopy
in higher neg G maneuvers I think this helmet provides adequate
protection from that likely scenario. I have only known of 3 pilots
to exit the plane with a chute. They all did fine with the 55/33
helmet. I have not spoken to him personally but the photos I saw
showed that Sergeis Sukhoi came to rest inverted after the wings came
off. He also uses either a 33 or a 55. It would be interesting to
get his perspective. (He is also 1 of the 3 I know who has bailed.)
I also invested in the 7 point ratcheting Hooker - as protection from
hitting the canopy.
I like it much better than the standard 5 point. Very comfortable in
the neg G. The lap belt holds your butt in the seat better. But I am
a little concerned about getting off quickly compared to the standard
5 point in the 52.
As an aside - Gentex makes the kevlar helmet for the Marines on the
ground. My partner in my practice is a former Marine and has been
shot twice. One time in the head with that helmet on. Obviously he
survived, the shooter was killed and Mike went on to graduate tops in
his class in college and medical school and is a physician now. I
think the kevlar shell seems pretty reliable. I do not know the
difference in the thickness of the Marine vs the flight helmets but I
would think they're both designed for being lightweight.
Herb
On Nov 9, 2007, at 5:56 AM, fougapilot wrote:
>
> When I was looking to buy a new helmet last year, I did a bunch of
> reading online and had made my mind n a Helicopter helmet because of
> the increased protection. But, after speaking with the folks at
> flightsuit, I opted for the standard HGU-55. There are many
> advantage to either helmets, but I felt that the -55 would be better
> for the type of flying I do.
>
> One has to look at helicopter flying to understand the need for
> extra shell protection. When a helicopter goes down (along with the
> pilots might I add) there is a significant chance that it may not
> stay upright upon "landing", the extra shell protection was designed
> to protect the head against the very likely side impacts one's
> cranium would sustain in such an event. However, as anything comes
> with a price this increased in side protection also means an
> increases in weight (about 2lbs more if memory serves). I don't know
> about you, but when I do acro, I much prefer having a light weight
> helmet.
>
> Flightsuits offers both the -33 and the -55 in Kevlar. The Kevlar
> helmet is a little more expensive ($100ish) but provides with an
> increased protection (over the standard helmet) while retaining a
> lesser weight.
>
> The -55 helmet was designed for fighter pilots and offers many
> advantage for our type of flying. It has both the front and rear
> "spaces" cut very high. This offer and improved field of vision. The
> front is cut off high enough so I do not see the helmet. The rear
> cut is specifically designed to offer freedom of head movement. The
> helmet does not restrict my head movement!.
>
> My CJ has an advantage over a helicopter; it had fixed wings. The
> chances of having it rolled on me during a "controlled" off site
> landing are small simply because said wings should absorb any
> rolling tendency. If I find myself in a position where I no longer
> control the airplane (either because of a midair or structural
> failure) then I would like to hope I will think of using another
> safety item I carry on board with me and let the airplane do it's
> own thing while I watch from the comfort of my parachute. The -55
> was designed for parachute landings.
>
> At the end of the day, there is no right and no wrong. In my book,
> having the light weight and increased field of vision outweigh the
> "limited" increase in protection from a heavier helmet.
>
> My 2 cents, to each his own.
>
> Dan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144806#144806
>
>
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Best EFIS in a Yak/CJ |
Thanks Scott.
I have seen the older annunciators panels with the lights similar to the gear indicators
however never seen one like yours - interesting.
Also your G-meter goes to 10+, different than the ones I have flown as well.
VR,
LawnDart
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144812#144812
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Blitz,
I'm out of town right now, can you please forward me your e-mail address..
Thank you,
Best Regards
Jr
>
>
>
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Yahoo Yak-50 group..... |
For any -50 owner that is not aware of this additional resource, it is here for
you.
You need to sign up....
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Yak-50/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144828#144828
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Gas and helmet choice |
After checking out the HGU/68P helmet, I'm getting one and paying for it through
the savings made by using autogas in the 285...
Thanks Craig and Brian,
PS: Sam Sax has a new device for the hearing impaired; the ear plugs have the micro-speakers
factory imbedded, so its seperate from the helmet! Your helmet can
be passive noise canceling, and you further have standard ear plugs. Would
seem this would cut down the most noise for those already on the road to becoming
deaf...it looked pretty slick, I don't know the manufacturer?
Drew
__________________________________________________
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Find the Yak-50 in this picture |
I bet no one can find the Yak-50 in this picture.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144849#144849
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/scanned_document0112_213.jpg
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Avgas Prices |
cyco55(at)COMCAST.NET wrote:
> What about burning hi test auto with the 400 hp M14 PF?
> Cyrus
> ---
I have burned 93 octane (non-ethanol) auto gas mixed 50/50 with 100LL in my 400hp
M14PF for several hundred hours (30 - 95 degree OAT). I cannot tell the difference
compared to straight 100LL, except my wallet is a little thicker.
However, I am religious about using MMO in every load of fuel. :-)
-Steve Dalton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144858#144858
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brain buckets |
Check out ebay if you are looking - here is a nice new flightsuits
helmet
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Flight-Suits-Aerobatic-Kevlar-Flight-Helmet_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26440QQihZ004QQitemZ140176152206QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
item number
Item number: 140176152206
Herb
>
> When I was looking to buy a new helmet last year, I did a bunch of
> reading online and had made my mind n a Helicopter helmet because of
> the increased protection. But, after speaking with the folks at
> flightsuit, I opted for the standard HGU-55. There are many
> advantage to either helmets, but I felt that the -55 would be better
> for the type of flying I do.
>
> One has to look at helicopter flying to understand the need for
> extra shell protection. When a helicopter goes down (along with the
> pilots might I add) there is a significant chance that it may not
> stay upright upon "landing", the extra shell protection was designed
> to protect the head against the very likely side impacts one's
> cranium would sustain in such an event. However, as anything comes
> with a price this increased in side protection also means an
> increases in weight (about 2lbs more if memory serves). I don't know
> about you, but when I do acro, I much prefer having a light weight
> helmet.
>
> Flightsuits offers both the -33 and the -55 in Kevlar. The Kevlar
> helmet is a little more expensive ($100ish) but provides with an
> increased protection (over the standard helmet) while retaining a
> lesser weight.
>
> The -55 helmet was designed for fighter pilots and offers many
> advantage for our type of flying. It has both the front and rear
> "spaces" cut very high. This offer and improved field of vision. The
> front is cut off high enough so I do not see the helmet. The rear
> cut is specifically designed to offer freedom of head movement. The
> helmet does not restrict my head movement!.
>
> My CJ has an advantage over a helicopter; it had fixed wings. The
> chances of having it rolled on me during a "controlled" off site
> landing are small simply because said wings should absorb any
> rolling tendency. If I find myself in a position where I no longer
> control the airplane (either because of a midair or structural
> failure) then I would like to hope I will think of using another
> safety item I carry on board with me and let the airplane do it's
> own thing while I watch from the comfort of my parachute. The -55
> was designed for parachute landings.
>
> At the end of the day, there is no right and no wrong. In my book,
> having the light weight and increased field of vision outweigh the
> "limited" increase in protection from a heavier helmet.
>
> My 2 cents, to each his own.
>
> Dan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144806#144806
>
>
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Need ZY-1500 regulator |
cpayne(at)joimail.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a? (CJ) ZY-1500 voltage regulator lying around after converting
to the B&C conversion? If so, I could use it to replace the one I have "tweeked"
way out of whack.
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Craig Payne
> ?
> ?
P/N: ZY-1500 Description: vibrating type voltage regulator Cd.: new Qty: 1 ea;
Unite price: $240.00
--------
****************************
Frank Guo sales/purchasing
Fangyuan Electronics Ltd
TEL: 0086-029-88248339ext.8013
Fax: 0086-029-88224873
Email: guoxinchao@fy-ic.com
Skype: air007@sina.com
*****************************
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144865#144865
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/hotlist_of_cj6_164.doc
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Hot list of Hongdu made CJ6 |
Fangyuan Electronics Ltd
22 Floor Huaao Mansion, Keji Road, Xian 710075 China
voice 86 (29) 8824-8839ext.8013
fax 86 (29) 8822-4873
http://www.fy-ic.com/www.cse.ecc.com
HOT List of CJ6
Dont miss
out !!!
These parts are in stock and ready to go! let me know if you are interested in.
Part Number Description Cd Qty App. Price Delivery
H2-0320-161 Organic glass New 1 CJ6 $245.00 Stock
H2-7211-100 Battery box New 1 CJ6 $80.00 Stock
ZY-1500 Vibrating Type voltage regulator New 1 CJ6 $240.00 Stock
GY-15 Fuel Pressure Transmitter New 1 CJ6 $110.00 Stock
GY-1 Fuel Pressure Transmitter New 1 CJ6 $110.00 Stock
BG-12-1A Altimeter New 1 CJ6 $100.00 Stock
QHQ-14A Carburetor New 1 CJ6 $600.00 Stock
ZAV-2/PKY-NA Current and voltage indicator New 1 CJ6 $100.00 Stock
FL-3 Amplifier unit New 1 CJ6 $120.00 Stock
BDP-2A/BDP-2B Attitude ind(Gyro horizon) New 1 CJ6 $120.00 Stock
ZH-4 Directional indicator New 1 CJ6 $100.00 Stock
LC-2 Magnetic compass New 1 CJ6 $80.00 Stock
For more parts, pls dont hesitate to contact us.
Best Regards,
Frank Guo
****************************
Frank Guo sales/purchasing
Fangyuan Electronics Ltd
C-22 Hua'ao Mansion, #10 Keji Road
Xi'an 710065 China
TEL: 0086-029-88248339ext.8013
Fax: 0086-029-88224873
Email: guoxinchao@fy-ic.com
MSN: fangyuanming2124@hotmail.com
Skype: air007@sina.com
Http: www.fy-ic.com
www.cse-ecc.com
*****************************
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144866#144866
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brain buckets |
Herb,
I am sure your partner had on a balistic helmet (approx 1/2
thick kevlar) vs a flight helmet (approx 1/16-1/8 thick).
Fly Safe
John Fischer
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Brain buckets
> <drc@wscare.com>
>
> Dan,
> Excellent post. I also picked the 33 in Kevlar for the
> low weight and range of movement. Having known acro
> pilots that have hit the canopy in higher neg G
> maneuvers I think this helmet provides adequate
> protection from that likely scenario. I have only known
> of 3 pilots to exit the plane with a chute. They all
> did fine with the 55/33 helmet. I have not spoken to
> him personally but the photos I saw showed that Sergeis
> Sukhoi came to rest inverted after the wings came off.
> He also uses either a 33 or a 55. It would be interesting
> to get his perspective. (He is also 1 of the 3 I know
> who has bailed.)
>
> I also invested in the 7 point ratcheting Hooker - as
> protection from hitting the canopy.
> I like it much better than the standard 5 point. Very
> comfortable in the neg G. The lap belt holds your butt
> in the seat better. But I am a little concerned about
> getting off quickly compared to the standard 5 point in
> the 52.
>
> As an aside - Gentex makes the kevlar helmet for the
> Marines on the ground. My partner in my practice is a
> former Marine and has been shot twice. One time in the
> head with that helmet on. Obviously he survived, the
> shooter was killed and Mike went on to graduate tops in
> his class in college and medical school and is a physician
> now. I think the kevlar shell seems pretty reliable. I
> do not know the difference in the thickness of the
> Marine vs the flight helmets but I would think they're
> both designed for being lightweight.
>
> Herb
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2007, at 5:56 AM, fougapilot wrote:
>
> <fougapilot@hotmail.com> >
> > When I was looking to buy a new helmet last year, I did
> > a bunch of reading online and had made my mind n a
> > Helicopter helmet because of the increased protection.
> > But, after speaking with the folks at flightsuit, I
> > opted for the standard HGU-55. There are many
> advantage to either helmets, but I felt that the -55 would
> > be better for the type of flying I do.
> >
> > One has to look at helicopter flying to understand the
> > need for extra shell protection. When a helicopter
> > goes down (along with the pilots might I add) there is
> > a significant chance that it may not stay upright upon
> > "landing", the extra shell protection was designed to
> protect the head against the very likely side impacts
> > one's cranium would sustain in such an event. However,
> > as anything comes with a price this increased in side
> > protection also means an increases in weight (about
> > 2lbs more if memory serves). I don't know about you,
> > but when I do acro, I much prefer having a light weight
> helmet. >
> > Flightsuits offers both the -33 and the -55 in Kevlar.
> > The Kevlar helmet is a little more expensive ($100ish)
> > but provides with an increased protection (over the
> > standard helmet) while retaining a lesser weight.
> >
> > The -55 helmet was designed for fighter pilots and
> > offers many advantage for our type of flying. It has
> > both the front and rear "spaces" cut very high. This
> > offer and improved field of vision. The front is cut
> > off high enough so I do not see the helmet. The rear
> cut is specifically designed to offer freedom of head
> > movement. The helmet does not restrict my head
> movement!. >
> > My CJ has an advantage over a helicopter; it had fixed
> > wings. The chances of having it rolled on me during a
> > "controlled" off site landing are small simply because
> > said wings should absorb any rolling tendency. If I
> > find myself in a position where I no longer control
> > the airplane (either because of a midair or structural
> failure) then I would like to hope I will think of using
> > another safety item I carry on board with me and let
> > the airplane do it's own thing while I watch from the
> > comfort of my parachute. The -55 was designed for
> parachute landings. >
> > At the end of the day, there is no right and no wrong.
> > In my book, having the light weight and increased
> > field of vision outweigh the "limited" increase in
> protection from a heavier helmet. >
> > My 2 cents, to each his own.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> >
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144806#144806
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ===
>
>
>
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Find the Yak-50 in this picture |
??
----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 7:41:41 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Find the Yak-50 in this picture
I bet no one can find the Yak-50 in this picture.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144849#144849
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/scanned_document0112_213.jpg
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Best EFIS in a Yak/CJ |
Ok...I'll finally throw my hat into this ring.
We've installed *lots* of avionics into Yaks...from the massive 15 month
reconstruction of a 52TW to a simple swap out.
There are pluses and minuses to each and every system. In the end, if
you're going to be replacing flight instruments, anything solid state is
better than mechanical gyros for acro aircraft.
Normally price is the driving factor. Currently, the best package for
the price is the Dynon D10-A. It's a direct swap out for a 3-1/8"
instrument. In a trike Yak however, it's a but long to install high up
in the panel as the wiring can get tangled with the nose gear
indicator. Additionally the D10A only has full LOC/GS connectivity with
a Garmin SL-30 (unless you purchase a separate box). Dynon markets
their product as a bare bones system that you need to build up. the
D10A does not come with a magnetometer or OAT probe.
The Good side is that they are *rock* solid and do not have any
vibration/harmonic issues, their updates are *free*.
The next most popular system is the Blue Mountain EFIS Lite. Also a
direct swap-out, this unit is a self contained GPS with "synthetic
vision". The depth allows it to fit in the top spot without any
interference. It's a more expensive box which requires an annual
subscription to Jeppensen and major software updates (as last I checked)
are not free.
I have been told the Blue Mountain system uses the GPS satellites in
their Attitude solution, so loss of GPS signal can lead to loss of
reliable Attitude indication.
Installation is also a snap and they have provisions for full
connectivity to most GPS/NAV/COM to act as an HSI with LOC/GS. It also
acts as an autopilot head and will drive their servos.
The other two systems we have installed are the Grand Rapids EFIS system
and the PCFlight Systems EFIS.
Both of these had separate ADHRS boxes which required separate
installation points (Usually in a hard level plane surface).
The PC Flight Systems unit suffered vibration issues at certain engine
settings.
The Grand Rapids system functioned very well but was more expensive.
1982/83 saw a change in the annunciator panel of the Yak-52 (as well as
many other changes).
A transponder will fit where the old radio head was installed, but
typically, this blocks access to anything through the kick panel on the
side.
I gotta get back to work....
Cheers,
Cliff
Shinden33 wrote:
>
> LawnDart,
>
> The annunciator lights are stock as far as I know. My 52 was produced in
> 1982 (hence the tail number N8252) so it is an earlier model. I've seen a
> picture of one other early model with this configuration so I'm guessing it
> was changed in later production lots. I have never been able to confirm
> that. Anyone else know about this?
>
> The xponder was installed prior to my purchase of the airplane. As I
> understand it my primer is reversed for a '52 and was taken from a '50.
> Cylinder prime is to the left and fuel system is right. I think it is also
> located higher on the panel than a stock '52. Again Having never flown
> another '52 or a '50 I don't know what's normal for either one. This is
> another question for the group. But I do know that the change was made
> specifically to accommodate the xponder.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LawnDart
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:25 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Best EFIS in a Yak/CJ
>
>
> Hello Scott,
> I have been looking at your pics with interest as I have been thinking about
> the BM Lite in a 52. A couple semi-related questions... Are those
> annunciator lights stock (the ones outside the G-meter/annunciator/compass
> pack)? Also, how did you manage to get an XPND between the intercom panel
> and the primer???
> VR,
> LawnDart
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144669#144669
>
>
>
--
Clifford Coy
Director of Maintenance
Border Air Ltd
629 Airport Rd.
Swanton, VT 05488
802-868-2822 TEL
802-868-4465 FAX
Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy <callto:cliff.coy>
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|