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0. 12:23 AM - Value of the List... (Matt Dralle)
1. 12:27 AM - Barnstormers Web site Over and Out??? (B747crew)
2. 03:06 AM - Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth] (Bruce Thomas)
3. 05:17 AM - Re: Barnstormers Web site Over and Out??? (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Brian Lloyd)
5. 09:08 AM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Brian Lloyd)
6. 09:13 AM - Re: Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth] (Brian Lloyd)
7. 10:07 AM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Roger Kemp)
8. 11:05 AM - Re: Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth] (Roger Kemp)
9. 11:48 AM - driving myself crazy (Mike & Lyne Bourget)
10. 12:04 PM - Re: driving myself crazy (Brian Lloyd)
11. 12:43 PM - For Doug Sapp (John Graham)
12. 01:49 PM - Re: driving myself crazy (Doug Sapp)
13. 02:24 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
14. 02:25 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
15. 02:38 PM - Re: driving myself crazy (Jon Boede)
16. 02:40 PM - Re: Oil sample frequency (Mark Davis)
17. 02:40 PM - Mogas (Jerry Painter)
18. 02:40 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
19. 02:45 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
20. 02:51 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Roger Kemp)
21. 03:10 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
22. 04:54 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Brian Lloyd)
23. 05:02 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Brian Lloyd)
24. 05:54 PM - Re: driving myself crazy (Craig Payne)
25. 06:04 PM - M-14 CD-5 points (GJHagstrom@aol.com)
26. 07:00 PM - Bird Flight (Jim Selby)
27. 07:22 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Roger Kemp)
28. 07:48 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Roger Kemp)
29. 07:48 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Roger Kemp)
30. 08:11 PM - Re: M-14 CD-5 points (Roger Kemp)
31. 08:44 PM - art work 2 (cjpilot710@aol.com)
32. 08:44 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (netmaster15@juno.com)
33. 10:34 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Jorgen Nielsen)
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| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
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at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and
get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come
to think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
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during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
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| Subject: | Barnstormers Web site Over and Out??? |
For the last 2 days I've not been able to access the "Barnstormers" web site and
the server appears to be down.... is anyone else having the same problem?? Or
am I just computer challenged?
--------
Jack Snodgrass
4305 Claridge Ct.
Apex, NC 27539
808-371-2739
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146161#146161
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| Subject: | Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth] |
----- Original Message -----
From: gleeso
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:42 PM
Subject: [Fwd: email forums; ain't this the truth]
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: email forums; ain't this
the truth
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:40:46 +1100
From: gleeso <gleeso1@iprimus.com.au>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
This is what you are missing if you don't get on to email forums.
If you don'tknow,
How many forum members does it take to change a light bulb?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have
been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
1 to propose a new Lighting section.
2 to argue that an Electricals section would be much more useful.
7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs.
5 to flame the spell checkers.
3 to correct spelling/grammar in flame posts.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6
to condemn those 6 as
stupid.
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
"lamp."
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly
correct.
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take
this discussion to a
lightbulb forum.
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the
posts are relevant to this forum.
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light
bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what
brands are faulty.
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's.
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
this group which
makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
headers and
signatures, and add "Me too."
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot
handle the light
bulb controversy.
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
about light bulbs."
1 lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it
all over again.
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormers Web site Over and Out??? |
Seems to be working fine now.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "B747crew" <B747crew2003@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:27 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Barnstormers Web site Over and Out???
>
> For the last 2 days I've not been able to access the "Barnstormers" web
> site and the server appears to be down.... is anyone else having the same
> problem?? Or am I just computer challenged?
>
> --------
> Jack Snodgrass
> 4305 Claridge Ct.
> Apex, NC 27539
> 808-371-2739
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146161#146161
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak'in Cross Country |
On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Roger Kemp wrote:
> Do say anything about that Marine thing of never carry a weapon to
> a fight
> that has anything less than a 4 in it.
I will go along with that. I have been an aficionado of the .45ACP
for as long as I can remember. A 1911A1 is my carry gun.
But I have been tempted to try something chambered for the .40cal S&W
round the FBI favors.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | Re: Yak'in Cross Country |
On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Shinden33 wrote:
>
> WOW! Thanks for all the gouge and invites guys & gals.
>
> The websites will come in handy. I'm definitely going to take the
> southern
> route - probably I40ish at least into TX.
>
> I have a panel mount GPS but am planning on bringing a handheld as
> a backup.
> I'm old fashioned and am taking paper charts as well.
I still fly with a paper chart in my lap. I am just too uncomfortable
any other way, even with all the electronics and moving map displays.
I have had my GPS receivers say, "we're done," too many times. I have
even had primary and backup GPS do it at the same time. I found the
chart, situational awareness, and an ADF to be very comforting.
> Sorry folks, think I'm going to pass on the weaponry. If I get
> into that
> kind of situation I've got bigger problems.
When you need one, nothing else will do. Look at it this way, it is
good for signaling as well as bringing down small game.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth] |
On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:05 AM, Bruce Thomas wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gleeso
> To: rebel 804
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:42 PM
> Subject: [Fwd: email forums; ain't this the truth]
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:email forums; ain't this the truth
> Date:Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:40:46 +1100
> From:gleeso <gleeso1@iprimus.com.au>
> To:undisclosed-recipients:;
>
>
> This is what you are missing if you don't get on to email forums.
> If you don'tknow, How many forum members does it take to change a
> light bulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light
> bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing
> light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed
> differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light
> bulbs. 1 to propose a new Lighting section. 2 to argue that an
> Electricals section would be much more useful. 7 to point out
> spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 5 to
> flame the spell checkers. 3 to correct spelling/grammar in flame
> posts. 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
> another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid. 2 industry professionals to
> inform the group that the proper term is "lamp." 15 know-it-alls
> who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is
> perfectly correct. 19 to post that this forum is not about light
> bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum. 11
> to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
> bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum. 36 to
> debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
> buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> this technique and what brands are faulty. 7 to post URL's where
> one can see examples of different light bulbs. 4 to post that the
> URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's. 3
> to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. 13 to
> link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
> headers and signatures, and add "Me too." 5 to post to the group
> that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light
> bulb controversy. 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a
> short time ago?" 13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs
> before posting questions about light bulbs." 1 lurker to respond to
> the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. _-
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List _-
> ===========================================================
Me too.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
And protecting one's self from 4 legged and 2 legged predators. A stick will
not get it with a pack of wild dogs. A few well placed rounds in the Alpha
male and even female will deter the pack for a while.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Shinden33 wrote:
>
> WOW! Thanks for all the gouge and invites guys & gals.
>
> The websites will come in handy. I'm definitely going to take the
> southern
> route - probably I40ish at least into TX.
>
> I have a panel mount GPS but am planning on bringing a handheld as
> a backup.
> I'm old fashioned and am taking paper charts as well.
I still fly with a paper chart in my lap. I am just too uncomfortable
any other way, even with all the electronics and moving map displays.
I have had my GPS receivers say, "we're done," too many times. I have
even had primary and backup GPS do it at the same time. I found the
chart, situational awareness, and an ADF to be very comforting.
> Sorry folks, think I'm going to pass on the weaponry. If I get
> into that
> kind of situation I've got bigger problems.
When you need one, nothing else will do. Look at it this way, it is
good for signaling as well as bringing down small game.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth] |
What...How did the thread get onto light bulbs? We were discussing the 101
irrelevant uses of MMO for mindless drivel.
Everyone knows how many buggers it takes to change a light bulb. The number
is infinite. It is like how many Ethiopians can you put in a canoe. As many
as you want.
Now the irrelevant uses of MMO...that's a topic for the Blogosphere and
listers everywhere. You are gonna run out of light bulbs and buggers one day
but not irrelevant uses for MMO. From pesky cats to loose screws, there is a
use for MMO! There's only 3 uses for light bulbs. Screw them in, turn 'em
on, blow 'em out and throw 'em out! Now there are those that want to debate
the intricacies of using a light bulb. There are some that have sought
innovative ways for such activities. Per Anal, Per vaginal, and per oral to
name a few. But, in the end it is still the same...screw them in, blow them
out and throw them away. Now who ever heard of recycling light bulbs! Now
MMO is another subject all together! Used MMO still has a use...well will
pass on what the pesky cat passed! But...used MMO can still loosen tight
nuts even rusty ones and it will make cracked ones burn! Can't say much
about the taste though...better ask the pesky neighbors cat! Probably was
not that tasty since it left in haste in a purple haze but there are no paw
prints on the trunk of my new (well then) sports car anymore! Those were
replaced by scratches when it had the apparent MMO blow out. Have not seen
that pesky cat since! Still trying to catch that howling dog though. Guess
it saw what MMO did for the CAT! A used light bulb would never do!
Can you find more uses for MMO? Or do we continue debating the changing of a
light bulb with buggers?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fw: email forums; ain't this the truth]
On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:05 AM, Bruce Thomas wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gleeso
> To: rebel 804
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:42 PM
> Subject: [Fwd: email forums; ain't this the truth]
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:email forums; ain't this the truth
> Date:Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:40:46 +1100
> From:gleeso <gleeso1@iprimus.com.au>
> To:undisclosed-recipients:;
>
>
> This is what you are missing if you don't get on to email forums.
> If you don'tknow, How many forum members does it take to change a
> light bulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light
> bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing
> light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed
> differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light
> bulbs. 1 to propose a new Lighting section. 2 to argue that an
> Electricals section would be much more useful. 7 to point out
> spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 5 to
> flame the spell checkers. 3 to correct spelling/grammar in flame
> posts. 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
> another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid. 2 industry professionals to
> inform the group that the proper term is "lamp." 15 know-it-alls
> who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is
> perfectly correct. 19 to post that this forum is not about light
> bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum. 11
> to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
> bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum. 36 to
> debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
> buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> this technique and what brands are faulty. 7 to post URL's where
> one can see examples of different light bulbs. 4 to post that the
> URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's. 3
> to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group. 13 to
> link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
> headers and signatures, and add "Me too." 5 to post to the group
> that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light
> bulb controversy. 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a
> short time ago?" 13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs
> before posting questions about light bulbs." 1 lurker to respond to
> the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. _-
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List _-
> ===========================================================
Me too.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | driving myself crazy |
Hi,,,
I'm going nuts as to which Cj6 out there to buy. There are so many
available for sale.
Question,, how realistic is it to count on the 1000tbo on the housai?
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: driving myself crazy |
On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Mike & Lyne Bourget wrote:
> Hi,,,
>
> Im going nuts as to which Cj6 out there to buy. There are so many
> available for sale.
>
> Question,, how realistic is it to count on the 1000tbo on the housai?
It depends on if it is first-run or third-run. A first-run Huosai
that is run here in the US with an oil filter and modern oils will
easily go past 1000 hours.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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Doug,
Can you email me off line with your contact
inforamtion as I have a question for you. Dennis gave
me your name.
Thanks,
John P. Graham
CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com
Cell phone (847) 641-1330
Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you
with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
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| Subject: | Re: driving myself crazy |
Mike,
Understand that unless otherwise stated in the logs a "overhaul" is
really only a "top" with a inspection of the lower end. So with that in
mind:
New engine =0 TT
First overhaul = 0 since overhaul 500 TT
Second overhaul =0 since overhaul 1000 TT
Third overhaul = 0 since overhaul 1500 TT
So if you have a third overhaul with say 300 hours since overhaul
(1800TT on the lower end) I think it might be wishful thinking to expect
a stock engine to run another 800 hours to a TT of 2600 hours (on the
bottom end). All that being said your chances of reaching those numbers
will be much better with the installation of a good 10 micron oil
filter, oil analysis, and good maintenance.
Always Yakin,
Doug
Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Mike & Lyne Bourget wrote:
>
>> Hi,,,
>>
>> Im going nuts as to which Cj6 out there to buy. There are so many
>> available for sale.
>>
>> Question,, how realistic is it to count on the 1000tbo on the housai?
>
>
> It depends on if it is first-run or third-run. A first-run Huosai
> that is run here in the US with an oil filter and modern oils will
> easily go past 1000 hours.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
> brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> Antoine de Saint-Exupry
>
> PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
> PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Absolutely. If I owned the Taurus Judge, I would recommend it over
every other weapon to carry on a cross country. No question. I would
be hard put to not bring along my Kimber .45ACP CDP though. I feel kind
of naked without it. In Iraq I carry a 9mm popgun, probably the same as
yours Doc! :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 23:26
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
I was not going to say anything about my 9mm with hollow points and two
14 shot clips! Concur with the handheld VHF (I carry a PRC 90 in my vest
pocket) along with all the other survival stuff. Flares (day and night),
whistle, signal mirror, magnesium striker fire starter, thermal
blanket(that is the bulky part) tucked in the back pouch, flashlight,
water in aluminum pouches, Iodine tablets, Ziploc plastic bags, fishing
line with some hooks, extra AA batteries, and hi protein energy bars.
That is the contents of my survival vest. Thought about an MRE but that
really would be bulky.
Most of this stuff can be found at West Marine. The vest was an old one
I got from a Army Navy store. I had the inside line on the sale of some
of our old vests that were sold as surplus after we converted to a
modular survival vest.
The GPS handheld and or panel mounted is a given. Well maybe not but....
Do say anything about that Marine thing of never carry a weapon to a
fight that has anything less than a 4 in it. Those hollow points can do
some serious damage judging from a couple deer that were shot with them
along with one cotton mouth! I am currently looking for the "the Judge".
A .410 6 shooter. It also will fire .45 rounds. The manufacturer has a 4
mo back log of orders. That is a serious home protection weapon. Blows a
12 in diameter hole in the target at 25 yards. Just an aside on my dream
handgun.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I went west on 40 in Mary Alexanders Yak-50, and the airports I remember
going into were:
Shamrock Tx (A REAL lonely place)
Tucumcari NM (really friendly folks)
Double Eagle NM (LONG runway, pretty busy) Gallup NM (Spent the night.
Lots of Indians!) Winslow Az (Where this girl in a pickup truck slowed
down to take a look at me) Flagstaff Az (Just couldn't quite handle
another leg without stopping
here.)
Kingman Az (Lots of dead airlines, lots of T-28's, lots of wind)
29 Palms Ca (No one there, buy fuel, take what you want, honor system...
Amazing)
Ramona Ca (Say hello to Vladimir Yastremski, Russian Master Mechanic)
Carried a really nifty small scuba bottle that was just enough for about
one emergency start.
Concur with the SARSAT. I also carried a .45 with about 100 rounds, and
a hand held VHF radio and TWO hand held GPS's.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
Plan 150 nm legs and find fellow YAK owners along that route. That is
incase you do something like leave your air on or can't get her started
and expend you air. Do you have an adapter for your air system? Do you
have the Schrader conversion? If so and you have the stage one scuba
yoke you can make a adapter to service your air system.
Oil obviously is the other issue at 1 liter per hour. Not all FBO's are
going to carry 100 wt oil if you use Aeroshell or Phillips. Not sure
what you use.
Survival gear would be another thought. A SARSat ELT would be a definite
for me, flares, and thermal blanket that could be struck easily in a
vest. Do not know if you plan to fly with a Chute or not.
Others that have taken the Mountain routes can tell you about that. I
have not done that.
The rest, have fun. Your but and knees are definitely going to tell you
just sent on a ~1500nm XC.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:58 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
All,
I am (finally) planning on flying my -52 cross country from Rosamond, CA
(L00) to Collegeville, PA (N10). Planned Departure is on 26 November
hopefully arriving in PA sometime the following weekend. My current
proposed course is taking the southern route through AZ, NM, TX, OK then
turning north towards Louisville, KY and finally through Ohio into PA.
If anyone has any pointers on taking a stock Yak (that's right - no
extra fuel) I'm all ears. If you see a desert camo -52 in your
neighborhood the week after Thanksgiving stop over and say hi!
Scott
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
THAT'S RIGHT!
I wondered if ANYONE would catch that one! Good on you!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xiaobao
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 23:42
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>>..............a pickup truck <<
.... flatbed ford, was it?
--- "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> I went west on 40 in Mary Alexanders Yak-50, and the airports I
> remember going into were:
>
> Shamrock Tx (A REAL lonely place)
> Tucumcari NM (really friendly folks)
> Double Eagle NM (LONG runway, pretty busy) Gallup NM (Spent the night.
> Lots of Indians!) Winslow Az (Where this girl in a pickup truck slowed
> down to take a look at me) Flagstaff Az (Just couldn't quite handle
> another leg without stopping
> here.)
> Kingman Az (Lots of dead airlines, lots of T-28's, lots of wind)
> 29 Palms Ca (No one there, buy fuel, take what you want, honor
> system...
> Amazing)
> Ramona Ca (Say hello to Vladimir Yastremski, Russian Master Mechanic)
>
> Carried a really nifty small scuba bottle that was just enough for
> about one emergency start.
> Concur with the SARSAT. I also carried a .45 with about 100 rounds,
> and a hand held VHF radio and TWO hand held GPS's.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Plan 150 nm legs and find fellow YAK owners along that route. That is
> incase you do something like leave your air on or can't get her
> started and expend you air. Do you have an adapter for your air
> system? Do you have the Schrader conversion? If so and you have the
> stage one scuba yoke you can make a adapter to service your air
> system.
> Oil obviously is the other issue at 1 liter per hour. Not all FBO's
> are going to carry 100 wt oil if you use Aeroshell or Phillips. Not
> sure what you use.
> Survival gear would be another thought. A SARSat ELT would be a
> definite for me, flares, and thermal blanket that could be struck
> easily in a vest. Do not know if you plan to fly with a Chute or not.
> Others that have taken the Mountain routes can tell you about that. I
> have not done that.
> The rest, have fun. Your but and knees are definitely going to tell
> you just sent on a ~1500nm XC.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:58 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> All,
>
> I am (finally) planning on flying my -52 cross country from Rosamond,
> CA
> (L00) to Collegeville, PA (N10). Planned Departure is on 26 November
> hopefully arriving in PA sometime the following weekend. My current
> proposed course is taking the southern route through AZ, NM, TX, OK
> then turning north towards Louisville, KY and finally through Ohio
> into PA.
> If anyone has any pointers on taking a stock Yak (that's right - no
> extra fuel) I'm all ears. If you see a desert camo
> -52 in your
> neighborhood the week after Thanksgiving stop over and say hi!
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
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>
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| Subject: | driving myself crazy |
I have what we think is a third-run Housai and without the oil filter mod a
nd it's still going strong at 1,300+ hours (knock on wood). Although I've
changed out a lot of valves.
Jon> From: brian-1927@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: driving myself craz
y> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:00:36 -0800> To: yak-list@matronics.com> > -->
Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>> > > On Nov
15, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Mike & Lyne Bourget wrote:> > > Hi,,,> >> > I=92m g
oing nuts as to which Cj6 out there to buy. There are so many > > available
for sale.> >> > Question,, how realistic is it to count on the 1000tbo on
the housai?> > It depends on if it is first-run or third-run. A first-run H
uosai > that is run here in the US with an oil filter and modern oils will
> easily go past 1000 hours.> > --> Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive> brian H
YPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682> +1.916.367.2131 (voice)
y of petty things . . .> =97 Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry> > PGP key ID: 1209
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| Subject: | Re: Oil sample frequency |
Doug,
I called the tech guy at Stavely Services for the AOA oil analysis kits
http://www.staveleyfa.com/public/FLlabaviation.asp and he said he's familiar
with the M-14P engines and has done analysis for them enough to have a
database. He recommends sampling every other oil change or around 75 hours.
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil sample frequency
>
> About, oil analysis:
> Which outfit does the best job, do they have the info specifically about
> the HS6A and the M14P, or are they just looking for "metal"? The shop we
> used (years ago) for our 4 and 6 cly Lyc's had all the factory info about
> the types of metal used in the engine so when a specific metal type showed
> up the report would come back with a recommendation that might say to look
> at the bearings in the mag drive in the accessory section. Or it might
> say that the metal found was wrist pin cap material. This is of much more
> help than "we found steel particles in your oil". Can any one out
> there tell me which service is the best for our engines? Who do you
> use?
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug
>
> MarkWDavis wrote:
>
>>
>>What's the recommended interval for pulling oil samples on an M-14P? My
>>engine has 550 hours and I'm sending in my first sample to get a baseline
>>started.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mark Davis
>>N44YK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=145938#145938
>>
>>
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After burning airport mogas for many years in our Pawnee (235hp) glider t
ug
with nary a problem, one day I'd had enough of paying the monopoly factor
and decided to put mogas in both my Wilga and Broussard. Saved a bunch o
f
money (I thought). Next day the fuel gage tubes (plastic tubes below the
wings with floats like a Stearman) on the Wilga had turned opaque. The
gaskets on the Broussard gages (also floats, but with dials) were wet.
Following day the Wilga tubes had developed small cracks and were startin
g
to drip, Broussard a bit wetter. Following day BIG puddle on the hangar
floor, gooey gaskets in the Wilga--cracks had opened up to about 1/16"!
Gooey rubber in pressure carburetors etc. is no laughing matter. 100LL f
or
me! YMMV.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
Arlington Municipal Airport (KAWO)
Hangar A-6
19203 59th Dr.
Arlington, WA 98223
425-876-0865
JP@FlyWBA.com
http://www.FlyWBA.com
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Weapons can be a pain in the tail to bring along, especially if you
don't have a concealed carry permit. I will tell you this... The folks
that live in the country you are about to fly over (past and present)
would not consider venturing past their fence posts without carrying at
the very least a side arm. However, if you are untrained and
uncomfortalbe with fire-arms in general, then you are right about not
carrying one. In that case, I'd recommend that you carry TWO SARSATS.
That way you stand a more than reasonsable chance of relying on society
to protect you from bad things.
You don't need a regulator on the Scuba pony tank. Or even a full sized
one. You just open the valve slowly and look at your cockpit gage.
When it gets near 50 atmos, close the valve. It's a no-brainer.
Good luck... When I took the same trip, it gave me wonderful memories
for years. You'll have a ball.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:13
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
WOW! Thanks for all the gouge and invites guys & gals.
The websites will come in handy. I'm definitely going to take the
southern route - probably I40ish at least into TX.
I have a panel mount GPS but am planning on bringing a handheld as a
backup.
I'm old fashioned and am taking paper charts as well.
Sorry folks, think I'm going to pass on the weaponry. If I get into
that kind of situation I've got bigger problems.
Water = Camelback. Camelbacks fit nicely behind the left shoulder so you
can even get to the H20 hose (and in some cases the pockets) in flight.
They will also hold a nice amount of energy bars, etc.
I'm looking at getting a pony SCUBA bottle for the trip. Anyone know
where I can get a 1st stage regulator cheap??? I have a adapter for my
air system but it doesn't have the Schrader valve. It just has an AN
fitting.
The plan right now is ~130Nm legs to start and see how things go from
there.
Day 1 (partial day) will be from L00 to Big Bear, to Parker AZ finally
to Deer Valley.
Flying with chutes and lots of memory foam.
See ya'll out there.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I went west on 40 in Mary Alexanders Yak-50, and the airports I remember
going into were:
Shamrock Tx (A REAL lonely place)
Tucumcari NM (really friendly folks)
Double Eagle NM (LONG runway, pretty busy) Gallup NM (Spent the night.
Lots of Indians!) Winslow Az (Where this girl in a pickup truck slowed
down to take a look at me) Flagstaff Az (Just couldn't quite handle
another leg without stopping
here.)
Kingman Az (Lots of dead airlines, lots of T-28's, lots of wind)
29 Palms Ca (No one there, buy fuel, take what you want, honor system...
Amazing)
Ramona Ca (Say hello to Vladimir Yastremski, Russian Master Mechanic)
Carried a really nifty small scuba bottle that was just enough for about
one emergency start.
Concur with the SARSAT. I also carried a .45 with about 100 rounds, and
a hand held VHF radio and TWO hand held GPS's.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
Plan 150 nm legs and find fellow YAK owners along that route. That is
incase you do something like leave your air on or can't get her started
and expend you air. Do you have an adapter for your air system? Do you
have the Schrader conversion? If so and you have the stage one scuba
yoke you can make a adapter to service your air system.
Oil obviously is the other issue at 1 liter per hour. Not all FBO's are
going to carry 100 wt oil if you use Aeroshell or Phillips. Not sure
what you use.
Survival gear would be another thought. A SARSat ELT would be a definite
for me, flares, and thermal blanket that could be struck easily in a
vest. Do not know if you plan to fly with a Chute or not.
Others that have taken the Mountain routes can tell you about that. I
have not done that.
The rest, have fun. Your but and knees are definitely going to tell you
just sent on a ~1500nm XC.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:58 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
All,
I am (finally) planning on flying my -52 cross country from Rosamond, CA
(L00) to Collegeville, PA (N10). Planned Departure is on 26 November
hopefully arriving in PA sometime the following weekend. My current
proposed course is taking the southern route through AZ, NM, TX, OK then
turning north towards Louisville, KY and finally through Ohio into PA.
If anyone has any pointers on taking a stock Yak (that's right - no
extra fuel) I'm all ears. If you see a desert camo -52 in your
neighborhood the week after Thanksgiving stop over and say hi!
Scott
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Brian, I would suggest you take a look at some of the Kimber models. I have a
few. I think you'd love them.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:59
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Roger Kemp wrote:
> Do say anything about that Marine thing of never carry a weapon to a
> fight that has anything less than a 4 in it.
I will go along with that. I have been an aficionado of the .45ACP for as long
as I can remember. A 1911A1 is my carry gun.
But I have been tempted to try something chambered for the .40cal S&W round the
FBI favors.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Kinda reminds you of the Eagle's song!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
THAT'S RIGHT!
I wondered if ANYONE would catch that one! Good on you!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xiaobao
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 23:42
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>>..............a pickup truck <<
.... flatbed ford, was it?
--- "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> I went west on 40 in Mary Alexanders Yak-50, and the airports I
> remember going into were:
>
> Shamrock Tx (A REAL lonely place)
> Tucumcari NM (really friendly folks)
> Double Eagle NM (LONG runway, pretty busy) Gallup NM (Spent the night.
> Lots of Indians!) Winslow Az (Where this girl in a pickup truck slowed
> down to take a look at me) Flagstaff Az (Just couldn't quite handle
> another leg without stopping
> here.)
> Kingman Az (Lots of dead airlines, lots of T-28's, lots of wind)
> 29 Palms Ca (No one there, buy fuel, take what you want, honor
> system...
> Amazing)
> Ramona Ca (Say hello to Vladimir Yastremski, Russian Master Mechanic)
>
> Carried a really nifty small scuba bottle that was just enough for
> about one emergency start.
> Concur with the SARSAT. I also carried a .45 with about 100 rounds,
> and a hand held VHF radio and TWO hand held GPS's.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Plan 150 nm legs and find fellow YAK owners along that route. That is
> incase you do something like leave your air on or can't get her
> started and expend you air. Do you have an adapter for your air
> system? Do you have the Schrader conversion? If so and you have the
> stage one scuba yoke you can make a adapter to service your air
> system.
> Oil obviously is the other issue at 1 liter per hour. Not all FBO's
> are going to carry 100 wt oil if you use Aeroshell or Phillips. Not
> sure what you use.
> Survival gear would be another thought. A SARSat ELT would be a
> definite for me, flares, and thermal blanket that could be struck
> easily in a vest. Do not know if you plan to fly with a Chute or not.
> Others that have taken the Mountain routes can tell you about that. I
> have not done that.
> The rest, have fun. Your but and knees are definitely going to tell
> you just sent on a ~1500nm XC.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:58 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> All,
>
> I am (finally) planning on flying my -52 cross country from Rosamond,
> CA
> (L00) to Collegeville, PA (N10). Planned Departure is on 26 November
> hopefully arriving in PA sometime the following weekend. My current
> proposed course is taking the southern route through AZ, NM, TX, OK
> then turning north towards Louisville, KY and finally through Ohio
> into PA.
> If anyone has any pointers on taking a stock Yak (that's right - no
> extra fuel) I'm all ears. If you see a desert camo
> -52 in your
> neighborhood the week after Thanksgiving stop over and say hi!
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> Admin.
>
> browse
> Un/Subscription,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>
> Forums!
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>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
YA THINK?
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 17:50
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
Kinda reminds you of the Eagle's song!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
THAT'S RIGHT!
I wondered if ANYONE would catch that one! Good on you!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xiaobao
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 23:42
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>>..............a pickup truck <<
.... flatbed ford, was it?
--- "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> I went west on 40 in Mary Alexanders Yak-50, and the airports I
> remember going into were:
>
> Shamrock Tx (A REAL lonely place)
> Tucumcari NM (really friendly folks)
> Double Eagle NM (LONG runway, pretty busy) Gallup NM (Spent the night.
> Lots of Indians!) Winslow Az (Where this girl in a pickup truck slowed
> down to take a look at me) Flagstaff Az (Just couldn't quite handle
> another leg without stopping
> here.)
> Kingman Az (Lots of dead airlines, lots of T-28's, lots of wind)
> 29 Palms Ca (No one there, buy fuel, take what you want, honor
> system...
> Amazing)
> Ramona Ca (Say hello to Vladimir Yastremski, Russian Master Mechanic)
>
> Carried a really nifty small scuba bottle that was just enough for
> about one emergency start.
> Concur with the SARSAT. I also carried a .45 with about 100 rounds,
> and a hand held VHF radio and TWO hand held GPS's.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Plan 150 nm legs and find fellow YAK owners along that route. That is
> incase you do something like leave your air on or can't get her
> started and expend you air. Do you have an adapter for your air
> system? Do you have the Schrader conversion? If so and you have the
> stage one scuba yoke you can make a adapter to service your air
> system.
> Oil obviously is the other issue at 1 liter per hour. Not all FBO's
> are going to carry 100 wt oil if you use Aeroshell or Phillips. Not
> sure what you use.
> Survival gear would be another thought. A SARSat ELT would be a
> definite for me, flares, and thermal blanket that could be struck
> easily in a vest. Do not know if you plan to fly with a Chute or not.
> Others that have taken the Mountain routes can tell you about that. I
> have not done that.
> The rest, have fun. Your but and knees are definitely going to tell
> you just sent on a ~1500nm XC.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:58 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> All,
>
> I am (finally) planning on flying my -52 cross country from Rosamond,
> CA
> (L00) to Collegeville, PA (N10). Planned Departure is on 26 November
> hopefully arriving in PA sometime the following weekend. My current
> proposed course is taking the southern route through AZ, NM, TX, OK
> then turning north towards Louisville, KY and finally through Ohio
> into PA.
> If anyone has any pointers on taking a stock Yak (that's right - no
> extra fuel) I'm all ears. If you see a desert camo
> -52 in your
> neighborhood the week after Thanksgiving stop over and say hi!
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> Admin.
>
> browse
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On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Absolutely. If I owned the Taurus Judge, I would recommend it over
> every other weapon to carry on a cross country. No question. I would
> be hard put to not bring along my Kimber .45ACP CDP though. I feel
> kind
> of naked without it. In Iraq I carry a 9mm popgun, probably the
> same as
> yours Doc! :-)
Why would anyone carry a 9mm, especially into combat?
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re: Yak'in Cross Country |
On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Brian, I would suggest you take a look at some of the Kimber
> models. I have a few. I think you'd love them.
Yes, I favor Kimber for sidearms based on the Browning's 1911 design.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | Re: driving myself crazy |
>
> I'm going nuts as to which Cj6 out there to buy. There are so many
> available for sale.
>
Yep, that can happen. Should I or shouldn't... So what is it you really want, a
Project, someone else's Showplane or something in between? Don't worry about
the engine as long as it has a documented pedigree. Huosai or or M-14P. What really
matters is a straight airframe with good landing gear and pneumatics.
If I were doing it all over again, I'd start with something more than a completely
unrestored airframe...and I'd look for those expensive extras, such as radio,
transponder, intercom, good glass, with 1 or more parachutes thrown in. A
new pair of Strong Squadron seat packs will set you back at least $2800 with shipping,
more with extras like lumbar support, monogram, etc. Hooker Harness'
are good too.
Don't worry about fancy glass panels, you will sort all that out once you start
flying. Extended fuel is nice, but how often do you need to thaw your butt out?
My skinny butt needs a break at 2 hours or so, well within stock capability.
I built my own aft aux tank for those occasional trips where I got free fuel.
What really would sell me is a completely stripped airfarme with no paint, where
I can see every Boo-boo in the skin and put my own paint on.
The M-14P is really a kick butt climber, but $30K in conversion costs only bought
5-15 knots in cruise, depending upon altitude, temps and cosmic rays.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | M-14 CD-5 points |
The spring broke in one of my mags' points. I am looking for a new or used
set of points. Doug Sapp did not have any. Anybody else willing to part with a
set ?
Thanks, Gary
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This comes pretty close to answering the questionSubject: Bird Flight
This comes pretty close to answering the question: Can man fly like a
bird?
http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=4262
<http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=4262 >
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Nay, couldn't have been..they were stoned!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
YA THINK?
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 17:50
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
Kinda reminds you of the Eagle's song!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
--> Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
THAT'S RIGHT!
I wondered if ANYONE would catch that one! Good on you!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xiaobao
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 23:42
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>>..............a pickup truck <<
.... flatbed ford, was it?
--- "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> I went west on 40 in Mary Alexanders Yak-50, and the airports I
> remember going into were:
>
> Shamrock Tx (A REAL lonely place)
> Tucumcari NM (really friendly folks)
> Double Eagle NM (LONG runway, pretty busy) Gallup NM (Spent the night.
> Lots of Indians!) Winslow Az (Where this girl in a pickup truck slowed
> down to take a look at me) Flagstaff Az (Just couldn't quite handle
> another leg without stopping
> here.)
> Kingman Az (Lots of dead airlines, lots of T-28's, lots of wind)
> 29 Palms Ca (No one there, buy fuel, take what you want, honor
> system...
> Amazing)
> Ramona Ca (Say hello to Vladimir Yastremski, Russian Master Mechanic)
>
> Carried a really nifty small scuba bottle that was just enough for
> about one emergency start.
> Concur with the SARSAT. I also carried a .45 with about 100 rounds,
> and a hand held VHF radio and TWO hand held GPS's.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:25
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Plan 150 nm legs and find fellow YAK owners along that route. That is
> incase you do something like leave your air on or can't get her
> started and expend you air. Do you have an adapter for your air
> system? Do you have the Schrader conversion? If so and you have the
> stage one scuba yoke you can make a adapter to service your air
> system.
> Oil obviously is the other issue at 1 liter per hour. Not all FBO's
> are going to carry 100 wt oil if you use Aeroshell or Phillips. Not
> sure what you use.
> Survival gear would be another thought. A SARSat ELT would be a
> definite for me, flares, and thermal blanket that could be struck
> easily in a vest. Do not know if you plan to fly with a Chute or not.
> Others that have taken the Mountain routes can tell you about that. I
> have not done that.
> The rest, have fun. Your but and knees are definitely going to tell
> you just sent on a ~1500nm XC.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shinden33
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:58 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
>
> <shinden33@earthlink.net>
>
> All,
>
> I am (finally) planning on flying my -52 cross country from Rosamond,
> CA
> (L00) to Collegeville, PA (N10). Planned Departure is on 26 November
> hopefully arriving in PA sometime the following weekend. My current
> proposed course is taking the southern route through AZ, NM, TX, OK
> then turning north towards Louisville, KY and finally through Ohio
> into PA.
> If anyone has any pointers on taking a stock Yak (that's right - no
> extra fuel) I'm all ears. If you see a desert camo
> -52 in your
> neighborhood the week after Thanksgiving stop over and say hi!
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> Admin.
>
> browse
> Un/Subscription,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>
> Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Damned you guys are handgun aficionados!
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Brian, I would suggest you take a look at some of the Kimber
> models. I have a few. I think you'd love them.
Yes, I favor Kimber for sidearms based on the Browning's 1911 design.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Yes, Berretta's. No Mark I have a Browning. It was easier to get parts for
at the time as we were converting from S&W .38's. Now those were pop guns.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Absolutely. If I owned the Taurus Judge, I would recommend it over
> every other weapon to carry on a cross country. No question. I would
> be hard put to not bring along my Kimber .45ACP CDP though. I feel
> kind
> of naked without it. In Iraq I carry a 9mm popgun, probably the
> same as
> yours Doc! :-)
Why would anyone carry a 9mm, especially into combat?
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | M-14 CD-5 points |
Check with Steve Culp @ 318-222-0850.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GJHagstrom@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:02 PM
Subject: Yak-List: M-14 CD-5 points
The spring broke in one of my mags' points. I am looking for a new or used
set of points. Doug Sapp did not have any. Anybody else willing to part
with a set ?
Thanks, Gary
_____
Se
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Here is some more.
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Doc or Brian,
My son just returned from Kandahar in Afghanastan; his Guard unit flies
C-130s. I asked him what kind of side arms he carried, he said he was on
ly allowed to carry standard gov issue- whatever that was I don't recall
. I wanted him to carry my 1911 model Colt 45 which i've had since WW 2
; it appears not to be acceptable to the present day command;. from you
r experience ,have YOU encountered such restriction? If so, what is the
reason ? Thanks for your response.
Cliff Umscheid
-- "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
Yes, Berretta's. No Mark I have a Browning. It was easier to get parts f
or
at the time as we were converting from S&W .38's. Now those were pop gun
s.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Absolutely. If I owned the Taurus Judge, I would recommend it over
> every other weapon to carry on a cross country. No question. I would
> be hard put to not bring along my Kimber .45ACP CDP though. I feel
> kind
> of naked without it. In Iraq I carry a 9mm popgun, probably the
> same as
> yours Doc! :-)
Why would anyone carry a 9mm, especially into combat?
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
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| Subject: | Yak'in Cross Country |
Glock 23 compact. When I got mine the 40 S&W was so new there was no ammo
available in SA, managed to get cases and had to roll my own. There was
also no load data available yet. Over the years its given good service. I
bought it for its simplicity.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: 16 November 2007 12:41 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Brian, I would suggest you take a look at some of the Kimber models. I
have a few. I think you'd love them.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:59
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country
On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Roger Kemp wrote:
> Do say anything about that Marine thing of never carry a weapon to a
> fight that has anything less than a 4 in it.
I will go along with that. I have been an aficionado of the .45ACP for as
long as I can remember. A 1911A1 is my carry gun.
But I have been tempted to try something chambered for the .40cal S&W round
the FBI favors.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupry
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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