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Sat 11/17/07


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 12:34 AM - top Chinnes aircraft spares parts supplier (mrfrankguo)
     2. 07:02 AM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (desmor944@aol.com)
     3. 07:09 AM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     4. 07:40 AM - Re: LED replacement lamps (viperdoc)
     5. 08:08 AM - Carb heat (John Graham)
     6. 08:09 AM - Re: LED replacement lamps (nc69666@aol.com)
     7. 08:09 AM - Mixture too rich? (John Graham)
     8. 08:51 AM - Re: Mixture too rich? (A. Dennis Savarese)
     9. 09:19 AM - Re: Carb heat (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    10. 10:07 AM - Good 285 For Sale (ONTHEGOSA@aol.com)
    11. 10:13 AM - Re: top Chinnes aircraft spares parts supplier (Doug Sapp)
    12. 12:58 PM - lights (Jorgen Nielsen)
    13. 04:03 PM - Re: lights (A. Dennis Savarese)
    14. 04:49 PM - Re: lights (Roger Kemp)
    15. 04:52 PM - Re: Carb heat (Brian Lloyd)
    16. 04:53 PM - Re: Mixture too rich? (Brian Lloyd)
    17. 04:56 PM - Re: Mixture too rich? (Brian Lloyd)
    18. 05:07 PM - Re: Yak'in Cross Country (Brian Lloyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:34:18 AM PST US
    Subject: top Chinnes aircraft spares parts supplier
    From: "mrfrankguo" <mrfrankguo@gmail.com>
    Dear Sir/Madam, Thanks for your attention! This is frank guo, sales and purchasing of Fangyuan Electronics Ltd(www.fy-ic.com www.cse-ecc.com ), who is in charge of Fangyuans exporting business of aircraft spare parts in foreign countries. We been doing business in international trade field for more than 13 years and has gained a good reputation since it is founded in 1994. We now proudly own more than 11subsidiaries and branch offices both in China and abroad. They are mainly specialized in IC (integrated circuit), light and electronic products, instruments, etc. The department of aviation components, which is under direct control of the headquarter, is specialized in aircraft spare parts and mainly in China and Russia and US made ones since we enjoy good relationships with many OEMs in these countries. Along with a great deal of stock, it enables us to provide our customers quick and satisfied service within aviation components industry. Hope you are interested in what we are doing and sincerely wish we can serve you in the near future! Could you reply my letter so we will know if we can do business with you? Your email will be highly appreciated! Pls find my contact methods at the bottom of this letter. Best regards, frank **************************** Frank Guo sales/purchasing Fangyuan Electronics Ltd C-22 Hua'ao Mansion, #10 Keji Road Xi'an 710065 China TEL: 0086-029-88248339ext.8013 Fax: 0086-029-88224873 Email: guoxinchao@fy-ic.com MSN: fangyuanming2124@hotmail.com Skype: air007@sina.com Http: www.fy-ic.com www.cse-ecc.com ***************************** About us: has been very active in international trade field and have gained a sound reputation in this industry since it is founded in 1994. Thanks to all our professional and dedicated staff's joint efforts, Fang Yuan Electronics Ltd has been developing fast and now proudly own 11 subsidiaries and branch offices both at home and abroad, such as Russia, Ukraine, HK, Beijing, Shenzhen, etc. It enables us to promote China made products in the world market effectively as well as acting as agents and distributors for many famous foreign brands. The department of aircraft spare parts is specialized in China, Russia and US made aircraft spares. It is dedicated to exporting China made aviation components to foreign countries as well as importing foreign produced ones to satisfy domestic demands. -------- **************************** Frank Guo sales/purchasing Fangyuan Electronics Ltd TEL: 0086-029-88248339ext.8013 Fax: 0086-029-88224873 Email: guoxinchao@fy-ic.com Skype: air007@sina.com ***************************** Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146583#146583 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/hotlist_of_f7_201.pdf


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    Time: 07:02:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak'in Cross Country
    From: desmor944@aol.com
    ----Original Message----- From: cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 9:01 pm Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country ? All this gun stuff.? In the Army I was in, they taught us how to shoot to kill the first shoot and that huge bore guns were just to heavy.? And using my Army taught skills, I killed many a deer with a single shot (30.06) (one at 325yds).? So as?survival?gun?I figured one only needed to carry something like the little folding 410/22 the USAF used to issue years ago.? I mean like you need only a bird or rabbit to get you though.? Right? ? That is until I found a couple of pictures out of Alaska.? A Forest Service guy HAD to kill a charging grizzly.?? This bear stood over 14' tall (12'6" at the shoulder).? The ranger emptied his 7mm Mag before the bear fell.? Still alive, he reloaded and pumped several rounds into its head.? This bear's paws were bigger than this guys chest.? It is the biggest grizzly on record. ?They later found the remains of a hiker that the bear had kill a few day earlier, who had emptied his 38 into the bear. ? Since I plan at some time in my short remaining life to fly my CJ to Alaska (yea sure), does anyone know where I can get a 50 cal 10 shot, full automatic pistol? ? Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, Not exactly what you specified, but check out www.magnumresearch.com?. The Desert Eagle in .50AE with a 7 round magazine comes close. Rich ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 07:09:50 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Yak'in Cross Country
    Thanks! I'll consider it! :) In a message dated 11/17/2007 10:03:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, desmor944@aol.com writes: ----Original Message----- From: cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 9:01 pm Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak'in Cross Country All this gun stuff. In the Army I was in, they taught us how to shoot to kill the first shoot and that huge bore guns were just to heavy. And using my Army taught skills, I killed many a deer with a single shot (30.06) (one at 325yds). So as survival gun I figured one only needed to carry something like the little folding 410/22 the USAF used to issue years ago. I mean like you need only a bird or rabbit to get you though. Right? That is until I found a couple of pictures out of Alaska. A Forest Service guy HAD to kill a charging grizzly. This bear stood over 14' tall (12'6" at the shoulder). The ranger emptied his 7mm Mag before the bear fell. Still alive, he reloaded and pumped several rounds into its head. This bear's paws were bigger than this guys chest. It is the biggest grizzly on record. They later found the remains of a hiker that the bear had kill a few day earlier, who had emptied his 38 into the bear. Since I plan at some time in my short remaining life to fly my CJ to Alaska (yea sure), does anyone know where I can get a 50 cal 10 shot, full automatic pistol? Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- Jim, Not exactly what you specified, but check out _www.magnumresearch.com_ (http://www.magnumresearch.com/) . The Desert Eagle in .50AE with a 7 round magazine comes close. Rich ____________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new _AOL Mail_ (http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003) ! (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List)


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    Time: 07:40:33 AM PST US
    From: "viperdoc" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: LED replacement lamps
    Cliff, Will the work in the 50? Do they have a bayonet casing? Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Yak-List: LED replacement lamps Just had my first batch of LED lamps arrive. These directly replace the green & red gears lamps in the Yak-52 without fuddling around with making something else work. They're $15 ea (4X the cost of a standard lamp). Yes, they're expensive...but they won't ever blow out either.... Cheers Cliff (Yes, I read the FAQ about advertising...;-) -- Clifford Coy Director of Maintenance Border Air Ltd 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy <callto:cliff.coy>


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    Time: 08:08:48 AM PST US
    From: John Graham <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Carb heat
    No where have I read in any of the checklists when to use carb heat or when it is recommended. Obviously I would turn it ON if my engine was running rough or stopped as part of the emergency procedures. But does the M14 recommend the use of carb heat in the pattern? I can't find mention of it. Thanks, John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ


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    Time: 08:09:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: LED replacement lamps
    From: nc69666@aol.com
    Cliff, will they work in th CJ??? Gary -----Original Message----- From: viperdoc <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 4:55 pm Subject: RE: Yak-List: LED replacement lamps Cliff, Will the work in the 50? Do they have a bayonet casing? Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Yak-List: LED replacement lamps Just had my first batch of LED lamps arrive. These directly replace the green & red gears lamps in the Yak-52 without fuddling around with making something else work. They're $15 ea (4X the cost of a standard lamp). Yes, they're expensive...but they won't ever blow out either.... Cheers Cliff (Yes, I read the FAQ about advertising...;-) -- Clifford Coy Director of Maintenance Border Air Ltd 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy <callto:cliff.coy> ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com


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    Time: 08:09:12 AM PST US
    From: John Graham <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Mixture too rich?
    When flying at altitude I presume we just leave things alone and run a rich mixture as there is no way to lean it...true? Thanks, John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ


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    Time: 08:51:58 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mixture too rich?
    No such thing as a "rich" mixture with the pressure carb John. The barometric chamber on the carb does it for us. True - there is no way to lean it. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graham" <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Yak-List: Mixture too rich? > > When flying at altitude I presume we just leave things > alone and run a rich mixture as there is no way to > lean it...true? > > Thanks, > > John P. Graham > CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com > Cell phone (847) 641-1330 > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > >


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    Time: 09:19:49 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Carb heat
    The CJ-6 has a carburetor temp gage. Watch it. The M-14 normally does not need carb heat in the pattern. The old rule of thumb for icing is if the OAT is 10C or lower AND there is visible moisture, (drizzle, fog, mist, etc), than there is a very good chance icing conditions. That is for airframe ice but take a look at you carburetor temp gage. If there is a marked arch on it, that is what you should be watching. The air temp as it passes though the carb drops considerable as it passes though the throat. Using the alternate air simply takes warmer air from behind the engine and runs it into the carb. In 1500 hours behind the HS6 and M14 I never had carb ice. That does NOT mean it will not happen since a number of folks have reported it here. But the airplane does have "alternate air". Years ago when I put the M14 on my CJ, I built a carb heat system. I should have stuck with just alternate air. It is simpler and because the pressure carbs, don't have icing problems as standard carbs, it would have been just as effective. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 11/17/2007 11:10:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cubflyer1940@yahoo.com writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: John Graham <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com> No where have I read in any of the checklists when to use carb heat or when it is recommended. Obviously I would turn it ON if my engine was running rough or stopped as part of the emergency procedures. But does the M14 recommend the use of carb heat in the pattern? I can't find mention of it. Thanks, John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ


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    Time: 10:07:00 AM PST US
    From: ONTHEGOSA@aol.com
    Subject: Good 285 For Sale
    Removed from my CJ and replaced with an M14P. This is a strong 285 with auto ignition and intake drains, it's be operated with an oil filter since being in the states, engine oil analysis done every 50 hrs has turned out good. 500 TT prop has 150 TT gills in good working order. Contact me off list at 602-705-4413 Scott


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    Time: 10:13:55 AM PST US
    From: Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Re: top Chinnes aircraft spares parts supplier
    Listers and lurkers, These folks contacted me about a month ago, wanting to sell me parts. I inquired as to the size of their inventory and asked them if they actually owned the parts which they were selling or were acting as a agent for the actual owner. Presumably, to make themselves look bigger and more impressive they went to the Internet and "borrowed" a parts list and sent it to me claiming it was representative of their present inventory on hand, asking me to mark which items I wanted. (Craig got the same list) Anyway, the list they "borrowed" was none other than *my inventory list off my CJ6.com web site!!* This is not the first time this has happened, our friend up in Canada did the same thing. I wrote them a scathing letter asking them what in the hell they thought they were doing, but of course I have not received an answer. I think Joe Howse has some history with this Mr. Gou (pronounced "gow") fellow also. Always Yakin, Doug mrfrankguo wrote: > >Dear Sir/Madam, > >Thanks for your attention! > >This is frank guo, sales and purchasing of Fangyuan Electronics Ltd(www.fy-ic.com www.cse-ecc.com ), who is in charge of FangyuanEUR^(TM)s exporting business of aircraft spare parts in foreign countries. We been doing business in international trade field for more than 13 years and has gained a good reputation since it is founded in 1994. We now proudly own more than 11subsidiaries and branch offices both in China and abroad. They are mainly specialized in IC (integrated circuit), light and electronic products, instruments, etc. > >The department of aviation components, which is under direct control of the headquarter, is specialized in aircraft spare parts and mainly in China and Russia and US made ones since we enjoy good relationships with many OEMs in these countries. Along with a great deal of stock, it enables us to provide our customers quick and satisfied service within aviation components industry. > >Hope you are interested in what we are doing and sincerely wish we can serve you in the near future! > >Could you reply my letter so we will know if we can do business with you? Your email will be highly appreciated! Pls find my contact methods at the bottom of this letter. > >Best regards, >frank > >**************************** >Frank Guo sales/purchasing >Fangyuan Electronics Ltd >C-22 Hua'ao Mansion, #10 Keji Road >Xi'an 710065 China >TEL: 0086-029-88248339ext.8013 >Fax: 0086-029-88224873 >Email: guoxinchao@fy-ic.com >MSN: fangyuanming2124@hotmail.com >Skype: air007@sina.com >Http: www.fy-ic.com > www.cse-ecc.com >***************************** >About us: has been very active in international trade field and have gained a sound reputation in this industry since it is founded in 1994. Thanks to all our professional and dedicated staff's joint efforts, Fang Yuan Electronics Ltd has been developing fast and now proudly own 11 subsidiaries and branch offices both at home and abroad, such as Russia, Ukraine, HK, Beijing, Shenzhen, etc. It enables us to promote China made products in the world market effectively as well as acting as agents and distributors for many famous foreign brands. >The department of aircraft spare parts is specialized in China, Russia and US made aircraft spares. It is dedicated to exporting China made aviation components to foreign countries as well as importing foreign produced ones to satisfy domestic demands. > >-------- >**************************** >Frank Guo sales/purchasing >Fangyuan Electronics Ltd >TEL: 0086-029-88248339ext.8013 >Fax: 0086-029-88224873 >Email: guoxinchao@fy-ic.com >Skype: air007@sina.com >***************************** > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146583#146583 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/hotlist_of_f7_201.pdf > > > >


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    Time: 12:58:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: lights
    Hi All Looking for some ideas for lights to go on a Yak52. So far I have cabin lighting off an L-39, and wingtip nav lights from L-29. I need: white light for tail (how on earth would you fit something?) Landing / taxi light. Thought to strap something to the gear. Ideas? Suggestions? Jorgen


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    Time: 04:03:13 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: lights
    Jorgen, The best solution is the Whelen nav-position-strobe lights. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/1105643.php Although more expensive than the Aeroflash units, Aeroflash must have 2 power supplies for the strobe lights. The Whelen system uses one power supply for both strobe lights. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jorgen Nielsen To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Yak-List: lights Hi All Looking for some ideas for lights to go on a Yak52. So far I have cabin lighting off an L-39, and wingtip nav lights from L-29. I need: white light for tail (how on earth would you fit something?) Landing / taxi light. Thought to strap something to the gear. Ideas? Suggestions? Jorgen


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    Time: 04:49:06 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: lights
    Jorgen, I do not know what the requirements are for your CAA. The FAA in the US allows us to fly with the below lights on the wing tips. The lights that Dennis has below with the link to Aircraft Spruce's website page for the Whalen nav-position-strobe lights have the white aft facing position light. They are mounted on both wingtips so you do not have to have a white light on the tail. I have them on my 52. They work great. As for the landing light, I have the light listed on page 444 of their catalog. 90195 PAR 36 landing light (with lamp P/N 11-03286 -$283.95) That is a 28V 4596 Lamp (GE Equivalent 250 W lamp). You will have to fabricate a mounting bracket for the main gear. You can run the power one of two ways. Run the wiring into the cockpit to a separate switch or tie into the gear position indicator solenoid. Obviously you want the gear down side of the circuit. I have been told that would work. Have not done it that way yet. Just means that the gear lights come on every time you drop the gear. I prefer to control the power to the gear light from the cockpit. I have that the landing light I stated above but have mounted it on my plane yet. To many other projects have gotten in the way. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: lights Jorgen, The best solution is the Whelen nav-position-strobe lights. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/1105643.php Although more expensive than the Aeroflash units, Aeroflash must have 2 power supplies for the strobe lights. The Whelen system uses one power supply for both strobe lights. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jorgen Nielsen <mailto:jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Yak-List: lights Hi All Looking for some ideas for lights to go on a Yak52. So far I have cabin lighting off an L-39, and wingtip nav lights from L-29. I need: white light for tail (how on earth would you fit something?) Landing / taxi light. Thought to strap something to the gear. Ideas? Suggestions? Jorgen href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 04:52:21 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Carb heat
    On Nov 17, 2007, at 8:08 AM, John Graham wrote: > > No where have I read in any of the checklists when to > use carb heat or when it is recommended. Obviously I > would turn it ON if my engine was running rough or > stopped as part of the emergency procedures. But does > the M14 recommend the use of carb heat in the pattern? > I can't find mention of it. There really isn't a need for carb-heat in our engines. In a standard carb the fuel is metered into the venturi which is upstream of the throttle valve. As the fuel evaporates it cools the air causing the moisture in the air to turn to ice. The ice usually forms on the throttle valve. The pressure carb is really a single-point fuel injection system. The fuel spraybar is downstream of the throttle valve and there is nothing between the spraybar and the compressor impeller. There is no chance of ice ever forming on the compressor impeller. So the only time you really need carb heat is if the inlet itself ices up (requiring alternate air) or if it is so cold that you need extra heat to get the fuel to vaporize when the engine is first started. Are there any other times? Probably, but I can't think of any. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 04:53:49 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Mixture too rich?
    On Nov 17, 2007, at 8:08 AM, John Graham wrote: > > When flying at altitude I presume we just leave things > alone and run a rich mixture as there is no way to > lean it...true? The M14P has an aneroid that automatically compensates for altitude. Think if it as automatic mixture control. Regardless, the pressure carb senses mass airflow and therefore does a credible job of keeping the mixture in the ballpark without requiring the pilot to fiddle with the mixture control. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Mixture too rich?
    On Nov 17, 2007, at 8:50 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com> > > No such thing as a "rich" mixture with the pressure carb John. The > barometric chamber on the carb does it for us. True - there is no > way to lean it. Unless you have an improperly-calibrated carb. You know, all M14Ps should have the same fuel-flow at the same pressure altitude, temperature, and power setting. It might be useful to know what that is for several common altitudes and power settings so that people can get an idea if their carb adjustment is in the ball-park. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak'in Cross Country
    On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM, cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > Since I plan at some time in my short remaining life to fly my CJ > to Alaska (yea sure), does anyone know where I can get a 50 cal 10 > shot, full automatic pistol? Some times a long gun just makes more sense. If I am going to have to take on a grizzly, I want at least a .308. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C




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