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1. 12:54 AM - Re: B&C alternator for M14 (Jan Mevis)
2. 06:51 AM - Re: B&C alternator for M14 (Cliff Coy)
3. 09:41 AM - Re: B&C alternator for M14 (Brian Lloyd)
4. 12:59 PM - FW: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES (David McGirt)
5. 05:17 PM - Re: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES (skidmk)
6. 06:18 PM - Re: Pre-OSH Activities at ETB (Forrest Johnson)
7. 09:25 PM - how do i unsubscibe (Steve Wieland)
8. 11:25 PM - Re: Re: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES (David McGirt)
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| Subject: | B&C alternator for M14 |
Yes, that's correct. I've opted for a solution where I can go back to the
Russian system easily. I just have to remove the B&C alternator, and put the
generator in again.
And then I can leave in the new circuitry too ....
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: maandag 7 januari 2008 22:51
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator for M14
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
There are a couple of different ways that you could make the light work
like it used to. One would be to put a diode in line with the main feed
AFTER the wire that leads to the old generator light. This would allow
the light to come on if the alternator or any part of the regulator
circuit, or the over-voltage protection failed. Of course the kit
already contains a NEW light that you put in that tells you when the
over-voltage relay has tripped, but I think I would like the idea of the
old generator light telling me that the new alternator system had failed
(in any way) better than that. It is all up to the installer, but if
you can think of what you want, and how you want it to operate, it can
likely be re-designed to do that.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:10
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator for M14
I have exactly the same installed on my Yak 50. Works well but II've
connected the output of the regulator circuit (behind the crowbar) to
the main bus in my Yak50 (in the big black box mounted on the firewall
at the inside; "shitok pitanije" or something but in cyrillic). So the
"generator fault" indicator now serves as a "master on" switch. I've
another light for the alternator fault.
JAn
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
Sent: zondag 6 januari 2008 6:33
Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator for M14
Attached is the info on the lightweight 10A alternator from B&C. This
is the one on my Yak 55. The photos at the bottom show the unit as
mounted on the upper back of the case. There are just 2 wires that
leave the Alt going to the regulator, blue in the photo, just behind
the right mag The regulator is mounted in front of the firewall on the
right, below the oil tank and medial to the battery tray. There are 2
wires leaving the regulator red/blk that enter the wiring harness. I
have not unwrapped the whole set of wires as the problem I had related
to the 2A CB just before the bus. In my installation the Alt is not
switched on the panel. The old "gen" switch is wired into to the main
breaker panel and the CB for "gen" is pulled so the GenFailure light on
the panel is not lit. The voltage meter in the cockpit is wired in as i
can see if the Alt is not charging. I can also see a variable output
with the engine speed. i do not pretend to know all of the facts, but
reading the long discussions i am not sure mine is wired right since the
switch is inop.
Herb
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| Subject: | Re: B&C alternator for M14 |
I know this discussion is for the B&C, but I've received a lot of wiring
questions for the Skytronics as well.
Attached is the wiring digram for Skytronics showing the warning light
installation.
This is not shown in the original Skytronics wiring diagrams, but is
found in the literature.
Cheers,
Cliff
Jan Mevis wrote:
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> Yes, that's correct. I've opted for a solution where I can go back to the
> Russian system easily. I just have to remove the B&C alternator, and put the
> generator in again.
> And then I can leave in the new circuitry too ....
>
> Jan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
> Sent: maandag 7 januari 2008 22:51
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator for M14
>
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
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> There are a couple of different ways that you could make the light work
> like it used to. One would be to put a diode in line with the main feed
> AFTER the wire that leads to the old generator light. This would allow
> the light to come on if the alternator or any part of the regulator
> circuit, or the over-voltage protection failed. Of course the kit
> already contains a NEW light that you put in that tells you when the
> over-voltage relay has tripped, but I think I would like the idea of the
> old generator light telling me that the new alternator system had failed
> (in any way) better than that. It is all up to the installer, but if
> you can think of what you want, and how you want it to operate, it can
> likely be re-designed to do that.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:10
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator for M14
>
> I have exactly the same installed on my Yak 50. Works well but II've
> connected the output of the regulator circuit (behind the crowbar) to
> the main bus in my Yak50 (in the big black box mounted on the firewall
> at the inside; "shitok pitanije" or something but in cyrillic). So the
> "generator fault" indicator now serves as a "master on" switch. I've
> another light for the alternator fault.
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> JAn
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> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Coussons
> Sent: zondag 6 januari 2008 6:33
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator for M14
>
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> Attached is the info on the lightweight 10A alternator from B&C. This
> is the one on my Yak 55. The photos at the bottom show the unit as
> mounted on the upper back of the case. There are just 2 wires that
> leave the Alt going to the regulator, blue in the photo, just behind
> the right mag The regulator is mounted in front of the firewall on the
> right, below the oil tank and medial to the battery tray. There are 2
> wires leaving the regulator red/blk that enter the wiring harness. I
> have not unwrapped the whole set of wires as the problem I had related
> to the 2A CB just before the bus. In my installation the Alt is not
> switched on the panel. The old "gen" switch is wired into to the main
> breaker panel and the CB for "gen" is pulled so the GenFailure light on
> the panel is not lit. The voltage meter in the cockpit is wired in as i
> can see if the Alt is not charging. I can also see a variable output
> with the engine speed. i do not pretend to know all of the facts, but
> reading the long discussions i am not sure mine is wired right since the
> switch is inop.
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> Herb
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Clifford Coy
Director of Maintenance
Border Air Ltd
629 Airport Rd.
Swanton, VT 05488
802-868-2822 TEL
802-868-4465 FAX
Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy <callto:cliff.coy>
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| Subject: | Re: B&C alternator for M14 |
On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:11 AM, Cliff Coy wrote:
> I know this discussion is for the B&C, but I've received a lot of
> wiring questions for the Skytronics as well.
>
> Attached is the wiring digram for Skytronics showing the warning
> light installation.
>
> This is not shown in the original Skytronics wiring diagrams, but is
> found in the literature.
There is something wrong with this diagram. If that is indeed the
voltage regulator, there is no way for the regulator to properly sense
the bus voltage as there is no direct connection from the bus to the
regulator, only the warning light circuit. If they are sensing the bus
voltage through the warning light then regulation is going to suffer.
OTOH, if the device labled "voltage regulator" is just some sort of OV
protection and the real VR is inside the alternator (internally
regulated) then the internal VR could sense the bus through the 'B'
lead (output).
Regardless, the diagram does not appear correct as labeled.
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brianl AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C
PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
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| Subject: | FW: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES |
FYI for anyone looking for chutes:
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From: randy <rjw145@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES
Greetings,
I have two Strong model 304 (Seatpack parachutes) for sale. S/N
612571, manufacture date 12/96. The containers are charcoal grey
with adjustable red harness webbing and B12 snaps on the legs and
chest. The parachutes are 26'Mid-Lite canopy, S/N 3939, mfg. 11/96
by Strong Enterprises and are rated at 150 KIAS with up to 254
lbs (standard). The parachutes come with removable 3 inch seat
cushions and are designed to fit the NA T-28 McArthur seat pan.
The seat cushions have some light dirt on them from stepping on them
while entering the aircraft. I suspect a dry cleaner could clean
them up nicely. By parachute industry standards, the parachutes
have at least nine years of service left. New these parachutes are
$2099 plus $155 for the zip on cushions.
Also perfect for Pits, Stearmans, Sky Bolts, Yaks and Great Lakes.
Price: $675.00 each.
Email directly with questions.
Regards,
Randy Winn
N9025Y T-28C
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| Subject: | Re: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES |
Hiya,,, also sent you a personal email.
ad's complied with? last repack?
thanks
Mike
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Mike "Skidmk" Bourget
Ottawa, Ontario
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=156820#156820
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| Subject: | Re: Pre-OSH Activities at ETB |
Please post hotel info at ETB. Thanks Forrest
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: yak-list
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Pre-OSH Activities at ETB
'Changers, Yakkistas, and RPA Friends of all Aero-Persuasions:
Whilst Great Leader "Pappy" is spearheading the OSH-50 Committee, I'm
merely a Politburo member working on the staging for Oshkosh. As prior
participants will recall, we went to Manitowoc. Next year, we will have
too many airplanes and people for MTW. The new site will be West Bend,
WI (KETB), just down highway 41 to the South. The airport is located 38
NM from KOSH, directly in line with the WB arrival over Fond Du Lac. 52
Road miles over Highway 33/41. Some folks park at West Bend, rent a car
and drive back/forth, about 25 planes per year.
Lodging will be at the Americinn, details to follow early next year.
Basically, we have the whole hotel on the Sunday before the Monday
arrival into OSH. Rooms rates will be somewhere in the "70's". TBD.
Meals and facilities will be provided by the most excellent EAA Chapter
facility I have viewed (online) for quite a while. Working with the FBO
for fuel prices. He also owns the FBO at KFLD which handles 500 planes
during AirVenture.
Still working on rental vehicles. We will also have an on-field
cookout Sunday evening before our Monday afternoon departure to the
Warbird Arrival to start the airshow. I have asked for the existing acro
box over the field to be activated for 1-2 hours on Sunday afternoon to
strut our stuff.
There will be ECOMs on the way to determine Who is arriving When and
With/WO a GIB; I need thsi stuff for our service providers to plan on.
While next year will celebrate the Nanchang CJ-6's 50th anniversary,
Yaks will NOT left out of the fun, I suspect that a good many of the 50
Nanchangs flying over Oshkosh will be the "clipped wing" CJ variety.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | how do i unsubscibe |
Steve/Wheels
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| Subject: | Re: [t-28-flyers] PARACHUTES |
Hi Mike, I was just passing along the info - check the email, it has the
contact info for the guy that is actually listing them
David
On 1/8/08 8:15 PM, "skidmk" <bourgem@cia.com> wrote:
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> Ottawa, Ontario
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