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Wed 01/16/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:11 AM - Re: Need Clean Pic (Vincent Palermo)
     2. 08:04 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Dave Laird)
     3. 08:04 AM - Re: Engine Oil Question (Barry Hancock)
     4. 09:48 AM - Red Alert back issues (John Graham)
     5. 10:22 AM - CHT Monitoring (John Graham)
     6. 10:54 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Brian Lloyd)
     7. 11:00 AM - China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation (CJcanuck)
     8. 11:34 AM - Re: CHT Monitoring (viperdoc)
     9. 02:40 PM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (viperdoc)
    10. 06:23 PM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    11. 06:41 PM - Re: CJ6A vs Yak-52 (Mozam)
    12. 09:09 PM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Brian Lloyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:11:35 AM PST US
    From: Vincent Palermo <vpalermo@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Need Clean Pic
    Try this Vincent Palermo vpalermo@tampabay.rr.com On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Cpayne wrote: > > I'm working on creating a special award to be presented at Oshkosh. > Looking for that rare shot of a CJ in STOCK paint in sharp focus, > outlined in the sky with no other background, other than Mother > Nature with plenty of pixels to work with. > > The perfect candidate will be forever enshrined in laser etched brass, > but here is what I need first: > > - no broken arrows on the side > - no nose art > - no extra bands, rings, etc. > - no camo jobs > - no Yakkity Yak WW-II wannabe paint schemes > - no giant spinners like the one I have > - no Malcom canopies > > > A "stock" paint job consists of green top/slate blue bottom with > authentic flying school numbers in White, I know how to interpret > the number schemes. > > I have plenty of Yak-52 pics but I'm not sure what "stock" is. All > these airplanes and damn few really good pics, sigh.... > > Craig Payne > >


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    Time: 08:04:54 AM PST US
    From: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
    Subject: Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
    Turtle-Pac does make a 66 gallon model called the "Drum 66" .... but i don't know if you could stuff it into the back seat! http://www.turtlepac.com/aircraftferry.htm Dave Laird N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty" Dallas (ADS) > I might want a bit more than 30 gal for this trip. I would actually > want an additional 55gal or so over and above the standard fuel in > the wings. > > Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive


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    Time: 08:04:59 AM PST US
    From: Barry Hancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Oil Question
    Jack, We use the EZ Heat Engine heater to pre-heat oil in the tank. Works VERY well. Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. office (714) 730-3958 cell (949) 300-5510 www.worldwidewarbirds.com The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipients. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, forwarding or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. Please notify us immediately by reply e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message and all attachments from your system. Thank you


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    Time: 09:48:55 AM PST US
    From: John Graham <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Red Alert back issues
    If any one has a collection of Red Alert magazine back issues, I would like to offer to buy them. If so, please contact me off board via email or phone. Thanks, John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 10:22:39 AM PST US
    From: John Graham <cubflyer1940@yahoo.com>
    Subject: CHT Monitoring
    Seeing that my CHT gauge in the Yak-52 only shows temps off of one cylinder (#4 I believe), does anyone have an opinion on gauges that measure CHT/EGT off of all 9 cylinders, like JPI's EDM&#8209;700&#8209;9C? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks, John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Looking for last minute shopping deals?


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    Time: 10:54:14 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
    On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Dave Laird wrote: > > Turtle-Pac does make a 66 gallon model called the "Drum 66" .... > but i don't know if you could stuff it into the back seat! When last I did this I had to triple my fuel capacity. I did so by having custom tanks constructed to fit within the confines of the cabin. That is probably the best way to approach this problem with the Yak-52, i.e. build a tank that specifically fits in the rear cockpit, probably held in with the normal harness. It is amazing what one can do with sheet metal. It might even be a two-part tank to allow it to be more easily placed in the cockpit. I would plumb it directly into the fuel system with valve that can be worked from the front cockpit. I am not comfortable with tanks that depend on electric transfer pumps. Gravity feed to the header tank, just like the wing tanks, would be the preferable way to go. Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brianl AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 11:00:38 AM PST US
    Subject: China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation
    From: "CJcanuck" <m_kirk69@hotmail.com>
    Hi All! I find myself with 3 days off in Hong Kong next month and I've come up with an idea of going and visiting the China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation, assuming it is possible. I realize this is a long shot, as the factory also builds the Q-5 Fantan(Mig-19), among others, and I'm sure security is quite high, but just thought I'd see if anyone has done it and if it could be done again. Thanks! Mike Kirk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158599#158599


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    Time: 11:34:32 AM PST US
    From: "viperdoc" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: CHT Monitoring
    John, You are reopening a long and torrid thread on monitoring CHT and EGT with a 9 cylinder or 6 cylinder JPI or Dynon. The question for you is, "what are you going to do with the information once you have it." As you know on the 52 and the 50, you have a pressure carburetor so you cannot richen the mixture to cool the engine. You can only do that by opening the Louvers and pulling the power back or diving to increase airflow across the fins (i.e., shock cool). Otherwise, you are at the mercy of the ambient atmospheric temperature. The M-14 is a tough engine and will take short froes to temps above 220 C. Best policy is to push the engine control louvers to full open for Take-off. I never move my hand off of them if I pulled them closed to warm the engine on the ground, otherwise you are going to forget them at some point and time only to be surprised by the temp! Also always keep the friction set to where it takes a mild degree of effort to move them otherwise they will drift closed on you in flight. Back to 9 cylinder monitoring, I have toyed with the idea of putting in the Dynon EMS D10 (I know it only monitors 6 and will need a toggle switch to monitor the other 3) but my question still comes up why? As for the JPI monitor, the best part of that instrument is the fuel flow monitor function. For now, I am putting in a FS-450 from JPI to monitor fuel flow and am leaving the CHT to the existing Russian designed gauge. If and when it fails, I will revisit the Dynon EMS D10 idea. Sorry, did not help much. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Graham Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Yak-List: CHT Monitoring Seeing that my CHT gauge in the Yak-52 only shows temps off of one cylinder (#4 I believe), does anyone have an opinion on gauges that measure CHT/EGT off of all 9 cylinders, like JPI's EDM&#8209;700&#8209;9C? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks, John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Looking for last minute shopping deals?


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    Time: 02:40:49 PM PST US
    From: "viperdoc" <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Shipping from Europe to USA
    Contact Termikus. They make Aux Ferry tanks that sit in the rear seat of the YAK-52. Do not how many Liters it holds though. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Dave Laird wrote: > > Turtle-Pac does make a 66 gallon model called the "Drum 66" .... > but i don't know if you could stuff it into the back seat! When last I did this I had to triple my fuel capacity. I did so by having custom tanks constructed to fit within the confines of the cabin. That is probably the best way to approach this problem with the Yak-52, i.e. build a tank that specifically fits in the rear cockpit, probably held in with the normal harness. It is amazing what one can do with sheet metal. It might even be a two-part tank to allow it to be more easily placed in the cockpit. I would plumb it directly into the fuel system with valve that can be worked from the front cockpit. I am not comfortable with tanks that depend on electric transfer pumps. Gravity feed to the header tank, just like the wing tanks, would be the preferable way to go. Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brianl AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 06:23:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Shipping from Europe to USA
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Thanks for the interesting reply Brian. Just for kicks someday, you might try experimenting with shunt loading the whole aircraft itself. This is often done on the tactical aircraft I am associated with and works extremely well. Trailing wire systems on an aircraft with fabric control surfaces makes me grimace, but you obviously have more experience with it than anyone else around these days. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 0:07 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA On Jan 15, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Brian, what kind of lashup do you use for an antenna for the HF? Tell > me you don't extend a trailing wire? There are a couple of ways to go but I prefer the trailing-wire-with- drogue myself. I used a plastic funnel as the drogue. I can reel the antenna in or out to tune it. It works well. I might do things differently now. I have a couple of automatic tuners that do everything for you. I would probably run a wire from the back of the canopy to the top of the VS and then out to the right wingtip. The tuner will be perfectly happy with that. The antenna is long enough to be relatively efficient down to 2.5MHz and the airframe is a good counterpoise. OTOH, one doesn't really need HF when going the northern route. There is almost continuous VHF coverage up there. -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . - Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C


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    Time: 06:41:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ6A vs Yak-52
    From: "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net>
    brian-1927(at)lloyd.com wrote: > I just can't for the life of me figure > out how anyone can come to the conclusion that one is better than the > other. Brian, As someone who has flown both planes a bunch, and enjoyed your insights on this list for the past seven or eight years, I could not agree more. :-) All the best, Steve Dalton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158698#158698


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    Time: 09:09:03 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian-1927@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Shipping from Europe to USA
    On Jan 16, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E wrote: > Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Thanks for the interesting reply Brian. > > Just for kicks someday, you might try experimenting with shunt > loading the whole aircraft itself. This is often done on the > tactical aircraft I am associated with and works extremely well. Huh. Neat idea. Yeah, that could be made to work. Feed the ends of the wings as a balanced antenna. The wings would become a form of folded dipole. I may just try that with the CJ while I have it all apart. It would be easy to set that up. > Trailing wire systems on an aircraft with fabric control surfaces > makes me grimace, but you obviously have more experience with it > than anyone else around these days. The trick I used was to run a tube out through the tailcone and then line it with polyethylene tubing. The trailing wire went out inside that. It formed a coax with the wire being the center conductor. My Collins KWM-2 liked it so I didn't need a tuner. I just cranked it in and out to make it resonate on the frequency I was using. The nice thing is that the wire was completely behind the aircraft so there was no way it could get hooked on any of the control surfaces. My landing checklist still has "trailing wire -- in" on it. I tend to get "WTF" from copilots when they read the checklist to me. :-) -- Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax) I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C




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