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1. 12:14 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Yak Pilot)
2. 01:47 AM - ADC Oil Filter (Richard Goode)
3. 01:47 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Jan Mevis)
4. 03:11 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Genzlinger, Reade)
5. 04:19 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 05:48 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (Cliff Coy)
7. 06:25 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (David McGirt)
8. 06:52 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (Herb Coussons)
9. 07:11 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (David McGirt)
10. 07:40 AM - Re: 42J Keystone Heights (David McGirt)
11. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: CJ6A on the selling block (Stephen J. Byers)
12. 08:55 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (Richard Goode)
13. 09:04 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (Richard Goode)
14. 09:19 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Brian Lloyd)
15. 09:49 AM - Re: ADC Oil Filter (Walter Lannon)
16. 09:58 AM - Re: 42J Keystone Heights (cjpilot710@aol.com)
17. 11:04 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Roger Kemp M.D.)
18. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: CHT Monitoring (Roger Kemp M.D.)
19. 11:22 AM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Brian Lloyd)
20. 01:51 PM - Re: China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation (Ron Davis)
21. 02:03 PM - Re: Shipping from Europe to USA (Ron Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping from Europe to USA |
Roger, a lot of things that other people say on this list bore me to east Jesus
as well. I am far from a perfect person. To Wit: Along with all those technical
articles on YAK electrical systems and "how to" articles that have helped
a few people anyway, I also sometimes ramble along about other technical aspects
such as managing to figure out how to make an HF antenna work on a general
aviation aircraft. I admit the idea of flying a YAK-52 across the Atlantic also
excites me just as much as an Immelman off the deck at 9VG.
Hopefully the good outweighs the bad. It may not in your case. Oh well.
As you said: "Best Regards Anyway"
Mark Bitterlich
----- Original Message ----
From: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:45:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA
On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
On Jan 17, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
wrote:
Interesting idea, at least from a civil aircraft standpoint. Will the FAA buy
that for over water beyond VHF range flights?
Turns out it doesn't matter what the FAA says. It only matters to the country of
departure and then, most don't even pay attention. The Canadians did insist
that I drop by for an inspection of the airplane and me. The modified KWM2 (I
changed the crystals and then retuned it for the aviation HF bands) and trailing
wire was deemed satisfactory even tho' it didn't even remotely qualify as FCC-approved.
(The FCC has jurisdiction over radios, not the FAA.) They only cared
if it would work to communicate. In fact, the inspector said, "wow, I haven't
seen one of those in an aircraft for a long time. They work great, don't they,"
as he handed me the paper that told the boys in Gander to let me take off
eastbound. No one in any other country even looked.
In the EA-6B it is not quite that simple. We have embedded gold flake in the aircraft
canopies that was designed to keep RF out. Givent the ERP of the jammers,
that is not really a bad idea. Regardless, it is pretty darn effective once
you get up past UHF. Sure... Just install some coax and an external antenna.
And the readers of this list would simply be AMAZED at what it would take to actually
do that.
Radio is fun. Almost as much fun as airplanes and computers
But it bores the crap out of a lot of us!
Best regards anyway,
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brianl AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
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We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be grateful
for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system. Our thinking
is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft will only be used in
hot climates.
Grateful for your views.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Shipping from Europe to USA |
I'm not bothered by these discussions at all. At the contrary. If I don't
have much time, then I don't read them completely.
I just don't like "agressive" replies. And to the readers that have English
as their native langue, please don't forget that a lot of us outside usually
speak other languages. So we make errors.
Jan
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: vrijdag 18 januari 2008 9:11
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA
Roger, a lot of things that other people say on this list bore me to east
Jesus as well. I am far from a perfect person. To Wit: Along with all
those technical articles on YAK electrical systems and "how to" articles
that have helped a few people anyway, I also sometimes ramble along about
other technical aspects such as managing to figure out how to make an HF
antenna work on a general aviation aircraft. I admit the idea of flying a
YAK-52 across the Atlantic also excites me just as much as an Immelman off
the deck at 9VG.
Hopefully the good outweighs the bad. It may not in your case. Oh well.
As you said: "Best Regards Anyway"
Mark Bitterlich
----- Original Message ----
From: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:45:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA
On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
On Jan 17, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Interesting idea, at least from a civil aircraft standpoint. Will the FAA
buy that for over water beyond VHF range flights?
Turns out it doesn't matter what the FAA says. It only matters to the
country of departure and then, most don't even pay attention. The Canadians
did insist that I drop by for an inspection of the airplane and me. The
modified KWM2 (I changed the crystals and then retuned it for the aviation
HF bands) and trailing wire was deemed satisfactory even tho' it didn't even
remotely qualify as FCC-approved. (The FCC has jurisdiction over radios, not
the FAA.) They only cared if it would work to communicate. In fact, the
inspector said, "wow, I haven't seen one of those in an aircraft for a long
time. They work great, don't they," as he handed me the paper that told the
boys in Gander to let me take off eastbound. No one in any other country
even looked.
In the EA-6B it is not quite that simple. We have embedded gold flake in
the aircraft canopies that was designed to keep RF out. Givent the ERP of
the jammers, that is not really a bad idea. Regardless, it is pretty darn
effective once you get up past UHF. Sure... Just install some coax and an
external antenna.
And the readers of this list would simply be AMAZED at what it would take to
actually do that.
But it bores the crap out of a lot of us!
Best regards anyway,
Roger_______________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Shipping from Europe to USA |
> I'm starting to think that you two need to spend some quality time
> together - off list... in person - like maybe dinner, drinks and a
> movie.
Naw, we'd get together and he'd show me his (rig) and I'd show him
mine. Sounds like he has some stuff I'd like to have -- including the
-50.
> 'Cuz your big-brain-mutual-admiration-society-of-two is starting to
> sound more and more like a budding romance to me these days... ;)
[Reade Genzlinger] I believe the new vernacular is "bromance" Pilots do
it in any attitude.....
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
ADC Oil FilterRichard,
You are 100% correct. It must be installed in the return line from the
oil cooler to the oil tank. Although I personally do not have one
installed, everyone that has installed the ADC filter seems to be quite
pleased with it.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:44 AM
Subject: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be
grateful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system.
Our thinking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft will
only be used in hot climates.
Grateful for your views.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
Good afternoon Richard,
We've installed many ADC oil filters. I would recommend using the spin
on filter rather than the "flat-pack".
There seems to be less mess involved with the spin-on. We install them
on RH side of the engine mount and plumb into the return line from the
oil cooler. This has always bothered me because I don't like using the
oil cooler as a filter. We we did install it between the outlet of the
engine and the inlet of the oil cooler we ran into pressure/temperature
issues. Since this was on a -TW there may have been more to the cause,
but moving the oil filter to the other side dropped the temperature.
We fabricate the -12 fittings for both the oil tank and the fire wall
fitting.
If you're going with the bypass indicator note that the case of the
filter body must be grounded to the aircraft.
Cheers,
Cliff
Richard Goode wrote:
>
> We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be
> grateful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system.
> Our thinking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft
> will only be used in hot climates.
>
> Grateful for your views.
>
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> _www.russianaeros.com_ <http://www.russianaeros.com>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Clifford Coy
Director of Maintenance
Border Air Ltd
629 Airport Rd.
Swanton, VT 05488
802-868-2822 TEL
802-868-4465 FAX
Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy <callto:cliff.coy>
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
Richard,
I have a Yak52 TW w/ the ADC installed, I will include a link to a
picture, and would be glad to take more if needed. I have been pleased with
the unit, although the one drawback is the size ( it can get in the way )
I like being able to pull the screen every oil change, and KNOW what is
being caught, not send a spin off to someone, or just hope for the best..
But that is just my opinion..
http://picasaweb.google.com/dmcgirt/OilShutoffYak52TW/photo#5155342296077646
034
David
On 1/18/08 8:44 AM, "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon Richard,
> We've installed many ADC oil filters. I would recommend using the spin
> on filter rather than the "flat-pack".
> There seems to be less mess involved with the spin-on. We install them
> on RH side of the engine mount and plumb into the return line from the
> oil cooler. This has always bothered me because I don't like using the
> oil cooler as a filter. We we did install it between the outlet of the
> engine and the inlet of the oil cooler we ran into pressure/temperature
> issues. Since this was on a -TW there may have been more to the cause,
> but moving the oil filter to the other side dropped the temperature.
>
> We fabricate the -12 fittings for both the oil tank and the fire wall
> fitting.
>
> If you're going with the bypass indicator note that the case of the
> filter body must be grounded to the aircraft.
>
> Cheers,
> Cliff
>
>
> Richard Goode wrote:
>>
>> We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be
>> grateful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system.
>> Our thinking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft
>> will only be used in hot climates.
>>
>> Grateful for your views.
>>
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>> Rhodds Farm
>> Lyonshall
>> Hereford
>> HR5 3LW
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>> _www.russianaeros.com_ <http://www.russianaeros.com>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
David,
I see you removed the electric starter and put the plate with the
window on the left side of the case. Has this been working like you
expected? If so why the oil shut off. If positioning the crank
works, I would like the contact of where you bought it. I may not add
it to the 52, but I might to the 55 since it is air start only.
Herb
On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:22 AM, David McGirt wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> I have a Yak52 TW w/ the ADC installed, I will include a link to a
> picture, and would be glad to take more if needed. I have been
> pleased with
> the unit, although the one drawback is the size ( it can get in the
> way )
>
> I like being able to pull the screen every oil change, and KNOW what
> is
> being caught, not send a spin off to someone, or just hope for the
> best..
> But that is just my opinion..
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/dmcgirt/OilShutoffYak52TW/photo#5155342296077646
> 034
>
>
> David
>
>
> On 1/18/08 8:44 AM, "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Good afternoon Richard,
>> We've installed many ADC oil filters. I would recommend using the
>> spin
>> on filter rather than the "flat-pack".
>> There seems to be less mess involved with the spin-on. We install
>> them
>> on RH side of the engine mount and plumb into the return line from
>> the
>> oil cooler. This has always bothered me because I don't like using
>> the
>> oil cooler as a filter. We we did install it between the outlet of
>> the
>> engine and the inlet of the oil cooler we ran into pressure/
>> temperature
>> issues. Since this was on a -TW there may have been more to the
>> cause,
>> but moving the oil filter to the other side dropped the temperature.
>>
>> We fabricate the -12 fittings for both the oil tank and the fire wall
>> fitting.
>>
>> If you're going with the bypass indicator note that the case of the
>> filter body must be grounded to the aircraft.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>> Richard Goode wrote:
>>>
>>> We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be
>>> grateful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil
>>> system.
>>> Our thinking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft
>>> will only be used in hot climates.
>>>
>>> Grateful for your views.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>> Rhodds Farm
>>> Lyonshall
>>> Hereford
>>> HR5 3LW
>>> United Kingdom
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>>> _www.russianaeros.com_ <http://www.russianaeros.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
Hey there Herb,
I never had the electric starter on my TW, but I did add the sight glass.
I found the one I have in England ( the company name escapes me at the
moment) They only had two, and I got both for Tim and I.
To back up, my TW was TERRIBLE about not scavenging the oil after shutdown,
thus I would puke a cup at least of oil when I would pull through.. I added
the Kimball scavenger pump and the sight glass, and have been very happy
with both. That more or less, solved my problem.
The one draw back to the sight glass, you need to pull through the prop to
find the right spot, and normally you are doing this not long after shut
down... So, you have a hot 400HP M14, your head trying to look at a sigh
glass just behind the prop, and a high compression M14 that likes to kick
when she is hot... THUS..
I am installing the Kimball oil shutoff valve, I can shutdown, pull the
valve shut, scavenge the reservoir, walk away... With the shutoff valve
tied to my starter button, I can NOT start the engine without the valve
open, and I put the valve control in a spot that would get in the way, while
open..
Anyway, that is my thinking.. I could be all wrong.. :)
PS - I met a gentleman from Italy this past week while he was getting
checked out in the Model 12 Pitts, and he knew the guy that makes the sight
glass. He promised to get me in touch with him. So, I hope to have a lead
on more, I will let you know.
David
On 1/18/08 9:48 AM, "Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com> wrote:
>
> David,
> I see you removed the electric starter and put the plate with the
> window on the left side of the case. Has this been working like you
> expected? If so why the oil shut off. If positioning the crank
> works, I would like the contact of where you bought it. I may not add
> it to the 52, but I might to the 55 since it is air start only.
>
> Herb
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:22 AM, David McGirt wrote:
>
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> I have a Yak52 TW w/ the ADC installed, I will include a link to a
>> picture, and would be glad to take more if needed. I have been
>> pleased with
>> the unit, although the one drawback is the size ( it can get in the
>> way )
>>
>> I like being able to pull the screen every oil change, and KNOW what
>> is
>> being caught, not send a spin off to someone, or just hope for the
>> best..
>> But that is just my opinion..
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/dmcgirt/OilShutoffYak52TW/photo#5155342296077646
>> 034
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/18/08 8:44 AM, "Cliff Coy" <cliff@gesoco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Good afternoon Richard,
>>> We've installed many ADC oil filters. I would recommend using the
>>> spin
>>> on filter rather than the "flat-pack".
>>> There seems to be less mess involved with the spin-on. We install
>>> them
>>> on RH side of the engine mount and plumb into the return line from
>>> the
>>> oil cooler. This has always bothered me because I don't like using
>>> the
>>> oil cooler as a filter. We we did install it between the outlet of
>>> the
>>> engine and the inlet of the oil cooler we ran into pressure/
>>> temperature
>>> issues. Since this was on a -TW there may have been more to the
>>> cause,
>>> but moving the oil filter to the other side dropped the temperature.
>>>
>>> We fabricate the -12 fittings for both the oil tank and the fire wall
>>> fitting.
>>>
>>> If you're going with the bypass indicator note that the case of the
>>> filter body must be grounded to the aircraft.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cliff
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Goode wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be
>>>> grateful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil
>>>> system.
>>>> Our thinking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft
>>>> will only be used in hot climates.
>>>>
>>>> Grateful for your views.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>>> Rhodds Farm
>>>> Lyonshall
>>>> Hereford
>>>> HR5 3LW
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>>>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>>>> _www.russianaeros.com_ <http://www.russianaeros.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 42J Keystone Heights |
Sounds like fun, I will be returning from a trip that Thursday I think , bu
t
will try to find a way down there.. Not a bad trip from Atlanta , about =AD
2
hrs for me.. You have to let me look inside the 24 & 25, that would be
worth the trip..
David
On 1/17/08 7:45 PM, "cjpilot710@aol.com" <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
> North Florida RedStars
>
> On Feb 22-25 there will be a gathering of WarBirds at Keystone Heights (4
2J)
> (about half way between JAX & GNV). The B24/17/25 will be there from the
> Collings Foundation. The organizer asked that us "Yak guys" come. It wi
ll be
> on your dime though as this is a real low budget event to help a local
> aviation museum get started.
>
> Pappy
>
>
>
>
> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape
> <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>
in
> the new year.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A on the selling block |
I have a guy interested in this plane but he is in Canada.
Can anyone help with Canadaian knowledge.
The guy writes:
>>>>>>>>>Snip
I am still negociating with my TC inspector...what a jerk!
Does your AFM/POH and the other manuals have an FAA stamp or any FAA
mention that it is an official FAA document?
TC is a lot more picky than the FAA when it's about restricted AC and I
want to make sure that I will be able to import.
>>>>>>>>>Snip
Thanks for any help
Steve
Steve@sennex.com or 412-401-5025
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Byers
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:48 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A on the selling block
Thanks Craig,
Here is the link again for those who might be interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130187714504
There is some one interested in Canada but they are trying to figure out the
export import process to get the plane registered there.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Winkelmann,
CFI
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:26 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ6A on the selling block
To anyone interested in this CJ:
I have about 20 hours of flight time in this aircraft (just flew it this
past week for a missing man formation flight). It is a good solid, strong
running CJ. I will be flying it up to Waycross later this month. If you
know anyone who is interested in a CJ, they should take a look at this
airplane.
I would buy it, but I have a CJ in the final stages of restoration. Steve
was kind enough to allow me to fly his plane while mine is in restoration.
Any questions, contact me off-list or come to Waycross to see this plane in
person.
Regards,
Craig Winkelmann
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=157910#157910
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
Cliff-many thanks for that-it's what I thought!
I had 3 sets made a couple of years ago by ADC ,but we are not allowed to u
se them in Europe,but this is going to Australia.
ADC made it with Metric fittings for us!!
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cliff Coy
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
Good afternoon Richard,
We've installed many ADC oil filters. I would recommend using the spin
on filter rather than the "flat-pack".
There seems to be less mess involved with the spin-on. We install them
on RH side of the engine mount and plumb into the return line from the
oil cooler. This has always bothered me because I don't like using the
oil cooler as a filter. We we did install it between the outlet of the
engine and the inlet of the oil cooler we ran into pressure/temperature
issues. Since this was on a -TW there may have been more to the cause,
but moving the oil filter to the other side dropped the temperature.
We fabricate the -12 fittings for both the oil tank and the fire wall
fitting.
If you're going with the bypass indicator note that the case of the
filter body must be grounded to the aircraft.
Cheers,
Cliff
Richard Goode wrote:
>
> We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be
> grateful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system.
> Our thinking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft
> will only be used in hot climates.
>
> Grateful for your views.
>
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
ADC Oil FilterDennis-thanks.As I thought,but wanted confirmation!
We are not allowed to use them in europe,so I have no experience,but this i
s for an 18T going to Australia.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
Richard,
You are 100% correct. It must be installed in the return line from the o
il cooler to the oil tank. Although I personally do not have one installed
, everyone that has installed the ADC filter seems to be quite pleased with
it.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:44 AM
Subject: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be gra
teful for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system. Our thi
nking is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft will only be us
ed in hot climates.
Grateful for your views.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping from Europe to USA |
On Jan 17, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Yak Pilot wrote:
> > Interesting idea, at least from a civil aircraft standpoint. Will
> > the FAA buy that for over water beyond VHF range flights?
> Brian, I was talking about the idea of a sat phone taking the place
> of an HF radio. Not whether the KWM-2 was legal.
Ah. I know that ARINC has defined a satellite data-link mode (was I
studying ARINC protocols some years back when working out a design for
an aircraft data bus) but never followed up to see if they deployed
it. It certainly makes a lot of sense and even a relatively low data-
rate link could carry telemetry and voice.
Of course, that does not make it part of the long-haul ATC system.
> Shoot... I believe the first SSB radios put in military aircraft was
> done by Collins and Curtis Lemay... 75A4 receiver I think.
Yes. Art Collins showed Curtis LeMay that SSB was 8x as effective as
the AM sets they had been using. At the direction of LeMay, all SAC
aircraft were then equipped with SSB transceivers built by Collins.
(The HF that transports use on long over-water routes are a direct
result of this experimentation.)
Back in the late '50s and early '60s it was not all that unusual for a
ham to call CQ and get a reply from Curt, KGRL. After the usual
exchange of signal reports and pleasantries the ham would discover
that he was talking to General LeMay, often flying in a B-52.
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| Subject: | Re: ADC Oil Filter |
ADC Oil FilterHi Richard;
I have installed the ADC on the CJ6 with the HS6 engine (285 HP). Also installed
them on the R1340 in the Harvard. In all cases worked well. Much rather deal
with the mess from the ADC than the mess with cutting open the spin-on.
Disagree with the location that seems to be favoured on the list. One of the main
reasons for installing an external filter is to contain any contaminants before
they get to the oil cooler.
A metal contaminated oil cooler is a second engine failure waiting to happen even
if you think it has been cleaned out.
Install the ADC in the oil out line.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
Dennis-thanks.As I thought,but wanted confirmation!
We are not allowed to use them in europe,so I have no experience,but this is
for an 18T going to Australia.
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Dennis Savarese
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
Richard,
You are 100% correct. It must be installed in the return line from the oil
cooler to the oil tank. Although I personally do not have one installed, everyone
that has installed the ADC filter seems to be quite pleased with it.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Goode
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:44 AM
Subject: Yak-List: ADC Oil Filter
We want to fit a supplementary ADC oil filter to a Yak and would be grateful
for views as to where it should be placed in the oil system. Our thinking
is the return line from the oil cooler. The aircraft will only be used in hot
climates.
Grateful for your views.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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| Subject: | Re: 42J Keystone Heights |
In a message dated 1/18/2008 10:41:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
david@mcgirt.net writes:
That is a deal.
Sounds like fun, I will be returning from a trip that Thursday I think , bu
t
will try to find a way down there.. Not a bad trip from Atlanta , about
=93 2
hrs for me.. You have to let me look inside the 24 & 25, that would be
worth the trip..
David
On 1/17/08 7:45 PM, "cjpilot710@aol.com" <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
North Florida RedStars
On Feb 22-25 there will be a gathering of WarBirds at Keystone Heights (42J
)
(about half way between JAX & GNV). The B24/17/25 will be there from the
Collings Foundation. The organizer asked that us "Yak guys" come. It will
be
on your dime though as this is a real low budget event to help a local
aviation museum get started.
Pappy
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| Subject: | Shipping from Europe to USA |
True, there is a higher incidence of testicular carcinoma in nose gunners.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA
I'm not sure about the effectiveness of the gold canopies on the Prowlers.
When I was in the RAG, the story was that an instructor had taken a home
microwave radiation detector up when the pods were radiating and it pegged
the meter. Whenever I had ECMO's that insisted on "burning out" the pods
because it was good for them I explained that since we weren't at war it
wasn't really necessary. I didn't mind if we were actually using them. If
the Master Rad light didn't go out soon, I slowed down below 220 KIAS so the
RATs kick at least one transmitter off line. If I was light enough I'd take
it down under 192 KIAS so both kicked off line. Pissed 'em off. But my
nuts didn't glow in the dark!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Interesting idea, at least from a civil aircraft standpoint. Will the FAA
> buy that for over water beyond VHF range flights?
>
> In the EA-6B it is not quite that simple. We have embedded gold flake in
> the aircraft canopies that was designed to keep RF out. Givent the ERP of
> the jammers, that is not really a bad idea. Regardless, it is pretty darn
> effective once you get up past UHF. Sure... Just install some coax and an
> external antenna.
>
> And the readers of this list would simply be AMAZED at what it would take
> to actually do that.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:31
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA
>
>
> You know....you can just take a SAT phone.....
>
> Brian Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
>> MALS-14 64E wrote:
>>
>>> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the interesting reply Brian.
>>>
>>> Just for kicks someday, you might try experimenting with shunt
>>> loading the whole aircraft itself. This is often done on the
>>> tactical aircraft I am associated with and works extremely well.
>>
>> Huh. Neat idea. Yeah, that could be made to work. Feed the ends of the
>> wings as a balanced antenna. The wings would become a form of folded
>> dipole. I may just try that with the CJ while I have it all apart. It
>> would be easy to set that up.
>>
>>> Trailing wire systems on an aircraft with fabric control surfaces
>>> makes me grimace, but you obviously have more experience with it than
>>> anyone else around these days.
>>
>> The trick I used was to run a tube out through the tailcone and then
>> line it with polyethylene tubing. The trailing wire went out inside
>> that. It formed a coax with the wire being the center conductor. My
>> Collins KWM-2 liked it so I didn't need a tuner. I just cranked it in
>> and out to make it resonate on the frequency I was using. The nice
>> thing is that the wire was completely behind the aircraft so there was
>> no way it could get hooked on any of the control surfaces. My landing
>> checklist still has "trailing wire -- in" on it. I tend to get "WTF"
>> from copilots when they read the checklist to me. :-)
>>
>> --
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>> brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
>> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>>
>> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
>> - Antoine de Saint-Exupry
>>
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>> 1B6C
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>
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> Director of Maintenance
> Border Air Ltd
> 629 Airport Rd.
> Swanton, VT 05488
> 802-868-2822 TEL
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| Subject: | Re: CHT Monitoring |
DaBear,
I have the EFIS D10A in my 50. It is great with all the info it provides.
With the 3/496 and a SL30 you have the HIS function too. Not a moving map
but he 396 provides that.
I am adding the HS34 but I have not jumped on the EMS D10 yet since I had
already bought the JPI 450 and have the fuel flow sensor installed. I am
still haggling with tech support to commit to making a software update to
convert RPM taken from the P lead to % RPM otherwise sorting out the 4 leads
from the tach generator to get that conversion accomplished will be a brain
tease. Maybe someone else has already done this.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaBear
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CHT Monitoring
So, I'd love to see how it turns out. I agree the BM is better looking,
has terrain and gps built in. I was leaning that way due to the
autopilot option ($3500). To have a repeater screen in the back for the
BM is only 3k more. (only?) But the repeater screen only shows what is
on the front screen, no real intelligence there.
However, for the same cost as the sport and engine pod (8k not with the
added BM repeater), I can get 2 Dynon D-100s and a D-120. That gives
me 2 in the front cockpit and 1 in the back. They don't have GPS, but
they do interface to the Garmin 3/496. Also with the new dynon HS34,
the 3 EFIS units are easy to connect together and to multiple other
items such as 496,SL30,GTX330, etc. Each of the Garmin EFIS units can
display any of the data, HSI, ADI, Eng data, etc. With the connection
to a 3/496 you get fuel data as well. Also, Dynon is getting ready for
beta testing of their autopilot, so they'll have one by the summer or fall.
I like the BM screen system and the built in GPS/terrain. But then
again updates are costly. As is the cost of the unit(s).
The Dynon is a good unit, needs a switch to cover the other cyls for
CHT/EGT but is inexpensive comparatively.
I'm adding a GTX330 and a SL30 during my annual this winter. But I'm
still on the sidelines regarding EFIS.
Dabear
Craig Winkelmann, CFI wrote:
<capav8r@gmail.com>
>
> Take a look at the EI web page www.buy-ei.com and download the Pilots
Manual for Leaning and Engine Diagnostics. Read it and decide for yourself
if you want 9 cyl EGT and CHT. Doc is correct about the M-14 in that you
can't lean it. However, there are a host of other engine problems you can
diagnose with CHT and EGT info.
>
> Barry is installing the BMA (www.bluemountainavionics.com) Sport in my CJ.
In this project, I decided to do the engine pod and monitor EGT and CHT for
all 9 cylinders. I addition, I get GPS linked in with fuel flow data, oil
temps in and out, and a few other minor data points. We still have some
work to do, but we are optimistic that the plane will be ready for and at
Sun and Fun for those who would like to see the installation.
>
> If you look at the cost of the JPI or EI monitor, Dynon, and a GPS, the
BMA Sport solution comes in at a competitive (but higher) acquisition cost
(installation will probably be more for the Sport too). However, the BMA
solution is integrated, provides more function and is way better looking!
>
> Once Barry is done with my plane, he and his crew will have the expertise
to make the conversion for others. I'm sure Barry will happy to discuss
this off list with anyone who is interested. I also think Barry will be
posting pics of this installation (once we are done) on his company web
site.
>
> Fly smart. Fly safe!
>
> Craig
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158867#158867
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping from Europe to USA |
On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote:
> >
>
> True, there is a higher incidence of testicular carcinoma in nose
> gunners.
Why would that be? Microwaves are non-ionizing radiation. The only
problem is localized heating. Something tells me that they would
notice that.
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| Subject: | China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation |
I don't know about the possibilities of getting into the factory, but Nanch
ang is about 900 miles from Hong Kong and the price of a visa is $133 (more
if you want it in less than a week), so there are some logisitics to consi
der. Report back on whether it works out.
> Subject: Yak-List: China Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation> Fro
m: m_kirk69@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:56:40 -0800> To: yak-lis
mail.com>> > Hi All!> > I find myself with 3 days off in Hong Kong next mon
th and I've come up with an idea of going and visiting the China Nanchang A
ircraft Manufacturing Corporation, assuming it is possible.> > I realize th
is is a long shot, as the factory also builds the Q-5 Fantan(Mig-19), among
others, and I'm sure security is quite high, but just thought I'd see if a
nyone has done it and if it could be done again.> > Thanks!> > Mike Kirk> >
> > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopi
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| Subject: | Shipping from Europe to USA |
Brian,
The tissue damage depends on the frequency and, of course intensity, of the
non-ionizing radiation. Water's resonant frequency is 2.45 GHz and radiat
ion at or near that frequency will cause the temperature of tissue to rise.
If it were 'noticiable' it would cause immediate damage. Other frequenci
es can cause cellular damage and chromosome damage to the RNA and lead to c
ancer. At 95 GHz the radiation causes intense pain due to nerve cells just
beneath the skin being excited. The pain can range from annoying to debil
itating. The military potential of this has not been overlooked. Sandia l
abs has been working on it for several years and it is now in the prototype
stage. The device is mounted on an armored personnel carrier and the ante
nna is about 6 feet by 8 feet and folds up from the front of the APC. The
military calls it an Active Denial System (ADS). Think what the Stasi coul
d have done with this. That's probably what the US government will do with
it. > From: brian-1927@lloyd.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com> Subject: R
e: Yak-List: Shipping from Europe to USA> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:19:44 -
> > On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote:> > > --> Yak-List
message posted by: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com > > >> >> >
True, there is a higher incidence of testicular carcinoma in nose > > gunne
rs.> > Why would that be? Microwaves are non-ionizing radiation. The only >
problem is localized heating. Something tells me that they would > notice
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