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1. 03:37 AM - TW Vent (Craig Payne)
2. 07:57 AM - Yak-50 Aux tanks (Richard Goode)
3. 02:05 PM - Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks (Roger Kemp M.D.)
4. 02:54 PM - Re: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? (Craig Payne)
5. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? (ByronMFox@aol.com)
6. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? (Brian Lloyd)
7. 05:14 PM - Re:Re: Re: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? (Craig Payne)
8. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? (Roger Kemp M.D.)
9. 06:06 PM - Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks (A. Dennis Savarese)
10. 07:05 PM - Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks (Tim Gagnon)
11. 08:08 PM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks (Roger Kemp M.D.)
12. 10:06 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? (xiaobao)
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Yak-52TW dudes, now that Winter is here, I have finished the second prototype of
my Summer Oil Filler Cover vent. As some -TW operators found out, leaving the
cover off during hot weather helps keep oil temps down, this cover does the
same thing but makes it look good too! Only flush surfaces on the outside, no
bridge rivets. See my web site for more info.
http://home.joimail.com/~cpayne1/
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Yak-50 Aux tanks |
We offer long range wet-wings for the 50. This is a modification,
which has the full approval of Yakovlev Design Bureau, and indeed has
YDB part numbers.
It gives an additional 80 litres - i.e. significantly more than doubling
total capacity, with very little increase in weight.
Unfortunately it is a complex conversion, so the wings have to go to
Russia, so not that practical!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Yak-50 Aux tanks |
What about a wing swap out program some what like Termikus's TD conversion?
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Aux tanks
We offer long range wet-wings for the 50. This is a modification, which
has the full approval of Yakovlev Design Bureau, and indeed has YDB part
numbers.
It gives an additional 80 litres - i.e. significantly more than doubling
total capacity, with very little increase in weight.
Unfortunately it is a complex conversion, so the wings have to go to Russia,
so not that practical!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? |
Some of them Florida CJ's have competed in timed races and "won" against all comers
(production 360hp and under). Winning is always a relative thing, as in:
compared to what. "What" was a few stock SF-260's, a gaggle of Comanche 260's
with Wholey Cowls, an A-35, the LoPresti Mooney 201 and an odd assortment of
re-engined spam. That being said, I got stomped by a Comanche 400 with all the
LoPresti mods and some 300+ hp Marchetti's.
When Yawl can run over 200MPH for over 100KM, come on down and see me.
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? |
In a message dated 1/28/08 2:55:16 PM, cpayne@joimail.com writes:
> "When Yawl can run over......"
>
I'm in a nasty pedantic mood, Craig, and determined to be right about
something at least once today. The southern contraction of the colloquial "you
all"
is "y'all", and not "Yawl." A yawl is a sailboat wherein the aft, or mizzen
mast, is behind the rudder post. It's cousin is the ketch where the mizzen stands
just before the rudder post. :) ....Blitz
**************
Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? |
On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:20 PM, ByronMFox@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/28/08 2:55:16 PM, cpayne@joimail.com writes:
>
>
>> "When Yawl can run over......"
>
> I'm in a nasty pedantic mood, Craig, and determined to be right
> about something at least once today. The southern contraction of the
> colloquial "you all" is "y'all", and not "Yawl." A yawl is a
> sailboat wherein the aft, or mizzen mast, is behind the rudder post.
> It's cousin is the ketch where the mizzen stands just before the
> rudder post. :) ....Blitz
Thank you Blitz. You beat me to it.
BTW, I have a Yak-52 to flit about in for awhile. Want to get together
and do some flying? Or, of you and Dave go out, think about us over
here on the E side of the Sacramento Valley.
--
Brian Lloyd 3191 Western Drive
brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com Cameron Park, CA 95682
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re:Re: RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? |
Well Ketch this, yo jingoistic linguistic, landlubber! Put that Mizzen mast where
your rudder hangs and lay to!
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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| Subject: | RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? |
Blitz,
Yoos bees rat! Y'all is Y'all to us Sutherners. Now Yawl may be the way
these transplants say Y'all but not us suthernors.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world?
In a message dated 1/28/08 2:55:16 PM, cpayne@joimail.com writes:
"When Yawl can run over......"
I'm in a nasty pedantic mood, Craig, and determined to be right about
something at least once today. The southern contraction of the colloquial
"you all" is "y'all", and not "Yawl." A yawl is a sailboat wherein the aft,
or mizzen mast, is behind the rudder post. It's cousin is the ketch where
the mizzen stands just before the rudder post. :) ....Blitz
**************
Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks |
That too would be cost prohibitive. Reason - you will pay for a
container shipment to and from. It doesn't matter what the weight is.
It is the type of cargo that generates the rate. As in Aircraft Parts.
So figure $5K US each way to the cost of the wings. Plus disassembly
and crating.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-50 Aux tanks
What about a wing swap out program some what like Termikus's TD
conversion?
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:43 AM
To: YAK USA LIST
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Aux tanks
We offer long range wet-wings for the 50. This is a modification,
which has the full approval of Yakovlev Design Bureau, and indeed has
YDB part numbers.
It gives an additional 80 litres - i.e. significantly more than
doubling total capacity, with very little increase in weight.
Unfortunately it is a complex conversion, so the wings have to go to
Russia, so not that practical!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhtt
p://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks |
Doc,
Why would anyone need that much gas in the -50...the thing is NOT comfortable for
more than about 45 minutes...at best!
If you really want some legs...lets mod a -52 or CJ to act as an aerial refueling
platform. Put a pitot tube looking device on the other wing and run a basket
off the KCY-52.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160988#160988
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks |
Tim,
Not a bad idea! Can't get enough fuel in a 52 to do that though. But those
"Gull Wings" on the Chinese Nanchang could do it. Hell, they could drag two
baskets with that wing span. We could install the Pitot tube from Dynon
under the left wing tip and use the existing pitot tube for the probe! They
would have to put that M-14PF engine in the nose to refuel us at airspeeds
comfortable enough for both though! Otherwise with that anemic 265, we would
be pulling it back to say <60/600 and still probably would be pushing on the
basket. I'm told binding the basket is a bad thing.
:>))
Actually, we could pull our tanks out and put a bladder in that space. That
is a simple statement without going into too many details. That space could
yield a whopping 54 gals. At our 12 to 13 gal/hr burn at throttle setting
that the anemic CJ's and 52's can play, you are talking 4.0 hours of gas!
Now with that you are going to have to make some ergonomic changes to our
SOLO cockpits. Piddle paks and box lunches will definitely be in order. A
set of cruise pedals like those on those Harleys and an autopilot are both
on the dream list. Since we can get reasonable fuel consumption at a
respectable cruise. We can truck along watching the country side click on
off. Not quite like 480 kts but respectable.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gagnon
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Aux tanks
Doc,
Why would anyone need that much gas in the -50...the thing is NOT
comfortable for more than about 45 minutes...at best!
If you really want some legs...lets mod a -52 or CJ to act as an aerial
refueling platform. Put a pitot tube looking device on the other wing and
run a basket off the KCY-52.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160988#160988
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| Subject: | RE: CJ6 Highly modified - FASTEST CJ in the world? |
... don't you intend to say, to key in
"south-REN-ers?"
jack .......
--- "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Blitz,
>
> Yoos bees rat! Y'all is Y'all to us Sutherners. Now
> Yawl may be the way
> these transplants say Y'all but not us suthernors.
>
> Doc
>
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of ByronMFox@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:20 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: CJ6 Highly modified -
> FASTEST CJ in the world?
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/28/08 2:55:16 PM,
> cpayne@joimail.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> "When Yawl can run over......"
>
>
> I'm in a nasty pedantic mood, Craig, and determined
> to be right about
> something at least once today. The southern
> contraction of the colloquial
> "you all" is "y'all", and not "Yawl." A yawl is a
> sailboat wherein the aft,
> or mizzen mast, is behind the rudder post. It's
> cousin is the ketch where
> the mizzen stands just before the rudder post. :)
> ....Blitz
>
>
>
>
>
> **************
> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in
> shape.
>
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>
>
>
>
>
>
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