---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/30/08: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:21 AM - Re: Water Filter (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 2. 05:27 AM - CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 3. 05:51 AM - Re: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle (hkgibby@yahoo.com) 4. 06:23 AM - Re: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle (Dale) 5. 07:48 AM - Re: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle (cjpilot710@aol.com) 6. 08:11 AM - Re: CJ fuel (Barry Hancock) 7. 09:51 AM - Re: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle (Walter Lannon) 8. 11:00 AM - Re: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle (hkgibby@yahoo.com) 9. 05:10 PM - Re: Water Filter (Terry Lewis) 10. 06:22 PM - Need Bushi Photo (Craig Payne) 11. 06:26 PM - Sun and Fun 2008 (Craig Winkelmann, CFI) 12. 07:48 PM - Re: Sun and Fun 2008 (David McGirt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:46 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Water Filter From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" The kit you got from Doug should have all the parts. I just helped a friend install new dessicant in his CJ and Doug's kit had end plates, all screens, felt, and dessicant. Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161334#161334 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:28 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" I have a leak from the rear gear handle. I have isolated it to the small hole in the side of the body of the mechanism behind the panel. With main air on and engine not running it will bleed down the main air tank in about 10-15 minutes. How do I isolate the problem to either the gear handle or something else in the gear system that is leaking through this vent hole? Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161337#161337 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle From: hkgibby@yahoo.com Craig, I had the same thing and ended up replacing the gear handle/valve as it was leaking internally. Solved 90 percent of my air issues. Very simple remove and replace (be sure and label all the fittings, I drew a picture as well) and can be done without jacking. M-14P(Jill) can overhaul the valve for about 150$ as an alternative, otherwise, I would call Doug. Contact me offline or call if you want more of my CJ air system saga. 904-994-6005. Hoot Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" To:yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle I have a leak from the rear gear handle. I have isolated it to the small hole in the side of the body of the mechanism behind the panel. With main air on and engine not running it will bleed down the main air tank in about 10-15 minutes. How do I isolate the problem to either the gear handle or something else in the gear system that is leaking through this vent hole? Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161337#161337 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:50 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle From: "Dale" In the yak it means you have a either a bad gear actuator cylinder seal leak that is letting air go by the down pressure side to the up side internally past the chevron seals back to the handle where the air is coming from the relief air hole, or the gear up-lock seals or line leak. With your gear handle latch locked move the gear handle to the center position and see it the leak stops, if it does then gear handle is OK and the leak is elsewhere most likely the chevrons. You will then need to take a up pressure line off the cylinders one at a time and listen for air. Dale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161348#161348 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:40 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle In a message dated 1/30/2008 8:28:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, capav8r@gmail.com writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" I have a leak from the rear gear handle. I have isolated it to the small hole in the side of the body of the mechanism behind the panel. With main air on and engine not running it will bleed down the main air tank in about 10-15 minutes. How do I isolate the problem to either the gear handle or something else in the gear system that is leaking through this vent hole? Craig Make sure one of the flares on the lines leading into the valve is not cracked. I just spent a lot of time trying to find just that problem. Because of the way the gear valve is set up, most likely it is either the inlet line that comes in at a right angle to the back of the valve (out board) or the middle line that runs forward to the front gear valve. If anyone is interested I've figured out a way to eliminate the rear gear valve. Takes just a couple of hours. Pappy **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:46 AM PST US From: Barry Hancock Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ fuel Hi Forrest, Good to hear the old Super Pickle is in good hands. That plane is what got me into this business, for better or for worse...lol. Some of my fondest flying memories are at her controls. Though my recent flight with 4 F/A-18s in the L-39 is right up there! ;) What a kick that was.... I suspect we are two months away from being able to produce the tanks in kit form. They are new construction tanks using the original filler and vent, but will have a new quick drain on the bottom. The modifications are simple and easy to perform on the aircraft. The outboard rib is cut out and then reinforced around the perimeter. This allows the tank to extend one station. The brackets for the straps on the hat section supports are moved to the aft corner of the bay to allow the entire tank to be extended aft and everything is properly reinforced to accommodate the extra weight. The tank is built so that it can slide right in to the cavity. Final specifications should be ready in a month or so. At that time we will be accepting deposits as we've already had more than a couple inquiries. For now it will be done on an exchange basis (we need your filler neck, senders, gauge, vent fitting, etc.). Total down time should be no more than two weeks, including shipping. If we do it at our shop, the time will be less than a week. To summarize, our current list of CJ mods are as follows: 1) Malcom Hood front and one piece rear canopies 2) Metal placard set in english that exactly replicates original Chinese placards in size and look 3) Rudder Pedal mod that increases leg extension by 4". 4) Custom laser cut instrument panels and EFIS installations 5) Large baggage compartment kit with floor compartments and standard APU receptacle. 6) Complete aircraft re-wiring (weight saving and increased reliability) 7) New fuel tanks coming soon.... And more to come.... All of these items will soon be on our new web site when we launch in the coming weeks. Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. office (714) 730-3958 cell (949) 300-5510 www.worldwidewarbirds.com The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipients. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, forwarding or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. Please notify us immediately by reply e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message and all attachments from your system. Thank you On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote: > Time: 08:49:55 AM PST US > From: "Forrest Johnson" > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Fast CJ > > Please send info and price ASAP. I am about to order the bladder mod. > but will delay until I see what you have. > Thanks > Forrest Johnson ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:08 AM PST US From: Walter Lannon Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle Craig; Since this is a vent hole it's quite possible the leak is in one of the gear actuators. maybe a damaged actuator seal. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:24 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle > > > I have a leak from the rear gear handle. I have isolated it to the small > hole in the side of the body of the mechanism behind the panel. With main > air on and engine not running it will bleed down the main air tank in > about 10-15 minutes. > > How do I isolate the problem to either the gear handle or something else > in the gear system that is leaking through this vent hole? > > Craig > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161337#161337 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle From: hkgibby@yahoo.com Craig, I also removed all three gear actuators and had Doug overhaul each. They were not bad, but can be the culprit, usually the nose gear. Easy to R and R; and no jacking required. Unless you know for sure that all emerg valves, check valves on fire wall, actuators, gear handles etc. have had any TLC and or been inspected; I would bet there is corrosion all through the system that will cause springs to stick and felt seals to break down (especially in steamy south FL) and valve halves to pit. Two ways to deal with it..."Fly to failure" and piecemeal individual component replacement/overhaul or attack it all at once and pull everything and git er done for about $2200 in parts/overhaul. The labor is simple that any non-mechanic can do (I am proof) and with a helper, can do in a week. Look at it as a great way to learn the system. Dealing with the CJ air system is like blowing a tire..."There are those that have and those that will". Hoot Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Walter Lannon To:yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle Craig; Since this is a vent hole it's quite possible the leak is in one of the gear actuators. maybe a damaged actuator seal. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:24 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ Air Leak from Rear Gear Handle > > > I have a leak from the rear gear handle. I have isolated it to the small > hole in the side of the body of the mechanism behind the panel. With main > air on and engine not running it will bleed down the main air tank in > about 10-15 minutes. > > How do I isolate the problem to either the gear handle or something else > in the gear system that is leaking through this vent hole? > > Craig > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161337#161337 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:26 PM PST US From: "Terry Lewis" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Water Filter Hi, For thread sealer I use Permatex high temp thread sealer part no. 59214. It works great and does not set up or lock the threads. Found at auto parts stores. I found stainless steel screen at ace hardware in the plumbing section. Terry Lewis Original Message ----- From: "CJcanuck" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: Yak-List: Water Filter > > Hi All! > > Having found my old water filter to be scrap, and now in possession of a > very nice Stainless Steel Filter body plus dissicant material kit (thank > you Doug!) I need some info on the best way to put the whole thing back > together again. > > Firstly, the small metal screens that separated the felt filters aren't > in the best of shape, is it possible to use an alternative material, say a > fine fiberglass mesh? > > Next, is it wise to use teflon tape or something similar on the threads of > the filter body? How about on the rest of the air system? > > Thanks! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161136#161136 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:26 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Yak-List: Need Bushi Photo Old Salts, aka those who attended OSH-2001 when the Yak Pilot's Club bought over Cheng Bushi. I need some digital photos of him, especially any portrait type shots as I'm creating the recognition award we will be presenting at our Oshkosh banquet (whether or not he can attend). The award will also have publicity value, which we need to leverage to gain support for this endeavor. Craig Payne cpayne@joimail.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:42 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Sun and Fun 2008 From: "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" Gang: SNF is just around the corner. Is the RPA planning anything for there? Any non-RPAers going? Any ideas for hotels, etc. Hopefully it won't be as cold, foggy and wet as Waycross (still had fun though)!! Craig Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161460#161460 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sun and Fun 2008 From: David McGirt Craig, Was a lot of fun at Waycross. Here is what I have so far.. You will see the same suspects at Sun-n-Fun, plus many more.. Good times.. Sun n Fun is NOT an EAA event but works like Oshkosh for warbirds. Use the WB South arrival per notam on 119.25 (usually) 10 miles @ 2500 Really scary *stuff* happens in Lakeland skies. Check 6 often. Parachute packing in back of tent near WB registration - See Deborah. Bring sun screen, tiedowns, canopy cover and sturdy gust locks. Hotel 1 is new Holiday Inn, Winter Haven. $122.08 use WB mail-in form. New Holiday Inn is the old Days Inn on 200 Cypress Gardens Blvd. Hotel 2 Hampton Inn, Winter Haven. $110.88 through WB mail-in form. Hotel 3 is old Holiday Inn at 1150 Third St, NW, Winter Haven. $86.24 WB shuttle van runs between WB hut and hotels sporadically Use Polk Co. Pkwy (570) toll to/from airport for quickest way to hotels. The Hojo is next to Hotel 3 $80 + tx (863) 294-7321 or favorite website Friday night airshow is best viewed from my hanger; bring beverage. WB Awards Banquet is at Fantasy of Flight museum on Saturday night On 1/30/08 9:24 PM, "Craig Winkelmann, CFI" wrote: > > Gang: > > SNF is just around the corner. Is the RPA planning anything for there? Any > non-RPAers going? Any ideas for hotels, etc. > > Hopefully it won't be as cold, foggy and wet as Waycross (still had fun > though)!! > > Craig > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161460#161460 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.