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1. 06:10 AM - Spades (Ira Saligman)
2. 06:52 AM - Re: Spades (Jan Mevis)
3. 08:30 AM - Re: Spades (Roger Kemp M.D.)
4. 09:00 AM - Re: Spades (Richard Goode)
5. 09:36 AM - England in April (Jon Boede)
6. 09:36 AM - Re: Spades (Roger Kemp M.D.)
7. 10:05 AM - Re: England in April (ByronMFox@aol.com)
8. 11:35 AM - Trim wheel position (John Graham)
9. 12:42 PM - Re: Trim wheel position (Roger Kemp M.D.)
10. 02:27 PM - Re: Spades (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
11. 03:07 PM - Re: England in April (Martin Robinson)
12. 03:29 PM - Re: Spades (napeone)
13. 05:35 PM - Re: Spades (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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<mailto:isaligman@Saligman.com> isaligman@Saligman.com
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If you mean the original Russian spades on the outer end of the ailerons,
yes. The difference when doing aerobatics is quite apparent. Although I
still need both hands for rolling. It won' make you roll faster, of course,
only easier....
But most of my collegue Yakista's consider it a very ugly modification.
Jan Mevis
Yak 50 RA2005K
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: dinsdag 12 februari 2008 15:07
Subject: Yak-List: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the
wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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<mailto:isaligman@Saligman.com> isaligman@Saligman.com
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MessageThe Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out
in 83.
Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads.
Richard Goode
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From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on th
e wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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| Subject: | England in April |
A couple pilot friends of mine are headed to England in late April to see a
nother pilot friend of mine who's now living in Bath.
I'm looking for suggestions on Aviation Things that are "must see" for pilo
ts. The Imperial War Museum at Duxford is already on the list. :-)
Thanks,
Jon
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Sorry, I got it backwards.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades
The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83.
Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads.
Richard Goode
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From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the
wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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| Subject: | Re: England in April |
In a message dated 2/12/08 9:37:26 AM, jonboede@hotmail.com writes:
> A couple pilot friends of mine are headed to England in late April to see
> another pilot friend of mine who's now living in Bath.
>
> I'm looking for suggestions on Aviation Things that are "must see" for
> pilots.- The Imperial War Museum at Duxford is already on the list.- :
-)
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
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>
Must go up to Bobbinton and fly with Gennady Elfimov, famed Yak 52 aerobatic
pilot and singularly the finest instructor I've ever had the good fortune to
fly with. See http://www.skytrace.co.uk/ ...Blitz
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| Subject: | Trim wheel position |
Can anyone share their trim wheel settings/positions
for solo and dual flight?
John P. Graham
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| Subject: | Trim wheel position |
Neutral with dual and 10-20 deg nose up solo(whatever makes you comfortable
without pitching the nose up to high on rotation). I crank in about 10 deg.
Because I want a heavy nose feel.
Doc
Yak 52 552SH and YAK 50 78YK (soon to 160SH)
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:28 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Trim wheel position
Can anyone share their trim wheel settings/positions
for solo and dual flight?
John P. Graham
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Actually I have seen both installed.... Not at the same time mind
you.... But some guys have indeed put spades on the 50's ailerons. Mine
has shovels... An 84 model.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:33
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
Sorry, I got it backwards.
Doc
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades
The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in
83.
Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads.
Richard Goode
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have
Shovels on the wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
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isaligman@Saligman.com <mailto:isaligman@Saligman.com>
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| Subject: | Re: England in April |
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Doc
You need them!
David H.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163756#163756
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That is what I thought the wing tip aileron load lighteners were called!
Shovels! I do not have them on my 78 but don't feel I need them either.
Besides, I have wingtips anyway. Not dumping them for shovels. She rolls
just fine with my current arrangement and have not been overwhelmed by the
forces on the controls at 380 kmph either yet.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Actually I have seen both installed.... Not at the same time mind
you.... But some guys have indeed put spades on the 50's ailerons. Mine
has shovels... An 84 model.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:33
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
Sorry, I got it backwards.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades
The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in
83.
Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads.
Richard Goode
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D. <mailto:viperdoc@mindspring.com>
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades
Ira,
If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have
Shovels on the wing tips?
If so, why change to spads?
I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Spades
Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50?
Ira Saligman
o 610 940 0420
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
isaligman@Saligman.com <mailto:isaligman@Saligman.com>
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