---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/12/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:10 AM - Spades (Ira Saligman) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: Spades (Jan Mevis) 3. 08:30 AM - Re: Spades (Roger Kemp M.D.) 4. 09:00 AM - Re: Spades (Richard Goode) 5. 09:36 AM - England in April (Jon Boede) 6. 09:36 AM - Re: Spades (Roger Kemp M.D.) 7. 10:05 AM - Re: England in April (ByronMFox@aol.com) 8. 11:35 AM - Trim wheel position (John Graham) 9. 12:42 PM - Re: Trim wheel position (Roger Kemp M.D.) 10. 02:27 PM - Re: Spades (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E) 11. 03:07 PM - Re: England in April (Martin Robinson) 12. 03:29 PM - Re: Spades (napeone) 13. 05:35 PM - Re: Spades (Roger Kemp M.D.) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:07 AM PST US From: "Ira Saligman" Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:44 AM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades If you mean the original Russian spades on the outer end of the ailerons, yes. The difference when doing aerobatics is quite apparent. Although I still need both hands for rolling. It won' make you roll faster, of course, only easier.... But most of my collegue Yakista's consider it a very ugly modification. Jan Mevis Yak 50 RA2005K From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman Sent: dinsdag 12 februari 2008 15:07 Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:36 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Ira, If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the wing tips? If so, why change to spads? I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:00 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades MessageThe Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83. Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads. Richard Goode ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp M.D. To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Ira, If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on th e wing tips? If so, why change to spads? I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhtt p://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.invictawiz.com and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 8 5:28 PM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:08 AM PST US From: Jon Boede Subject: Yak-List: England in April A couple pilot friends of mine are headed to England in late April to see a nother pilot friend of mine who's now living in Bath. I'm looking for suggestions on Aviation Things that are "must see" for pilo ts. The Imperial War Museum at Duxford is already on the list. :-) Thanks, Jon ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:08 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Sorry, I got it backwards. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83. Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads. Richard Goode ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Ira, If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the wing tips? If so, why change to spads? I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.invictawiz.com and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - _____ ate: 2/11/2008 5:28 PM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:31 AM PST US From: ByronMFox@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: England in April In a message dated 2/12/08 9:37:26 AM, jonboede@hotmail.com writes: > A couple pilot friends of mine are headed to England in late April to see > another pilot friend of mine who's now living in Bath. > > I'm looking for suggestions on Aviation Things that are "must see" for > pilots.- The Imperial War Museum at Duxford is already on the list.- : -) > > Thanks, > Jon > > > Must go up to Bobbinton and fly with Gennady Elfimov, famed Yak 52 aerobatic pilot and singularly the finest instructor I've ever had the good fortune to fly with. See http://www.skytrace.co.uk/ ...Blitz ************** The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:39 AM PST US From: John Graham Subject: Yak-List: Trim wheel position Can anyone share their trim wheel settings/positions for solo and dual flight? John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:07 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Trim wheel position Neutral with dual and 10-20 deg nose up solo(whatever makes you comfortable without pitching the nose up to high on rotation). I crank in about 10 deg. Because I want a heavy nose feel. Doc Yak 52 552SH and YAK 50 78YK (soon to 160SH) -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Graham Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Yak-List: Trim wheel position Can anyone share their trim wheel settings/positions for solo and dual flight? John P. Graham CubFlyer1940@Yahoo.com Cell phone (847) 641-1330 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:14 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" Actually I have seen both installed.... Not at the same time mind you.... But some guys have indeed put spades on the 50's ailerons. Mine has shovels... An 84 model. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:33 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Sorry, I got it backwards. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83. Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads. Richard Goode ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp M.D. To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Ira, If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the wing tips? If so, why change to spads? I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? Ira Saligman o 610 940 0420 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 isaligman@Saligman.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.invictawiz.com and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ________________________________ ate: 2/11/2008 5:28 PM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:00 PM PST US From: Martin Robinson Subject: Re: Yak-List: England in April --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:58 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Spades From: "napeone" Doc You need them! David H. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163756#163756 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:56 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades That is what I thought the wing tip aileron load lighteners were called! Shovels! I do not have them on my 78 but don't feel I need them either. Besides, I have wingtips anyway. Not dumping them for shovels. She rolls just fine with my current arrangement and have not been overwhelmed by the forces on the controls at 380 kmph either yet. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades MALS-14 64E" Actually I have seen both installed.... Not at the same time mind you.... But some guys have indeed put spades on the 50's ailerons. Mine has shovels... An 84 model. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D. Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:33 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Sorry, I got it backwards. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spades The Yak 50 "spades" are the devices on the wing tips,which came out in 83. Not very attractive but do lighten the aileron loads. Richard Goode ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp M.D. To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Spades Ira, If I am not mistaken, does the 85 50 that you have not have Shovels on the wing tips? If so, why change to spads? I'm flying my 78 without either quit comfortablely. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ira Saligman Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:07 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Spades Is anyone familiar with putting spades on a Yak 50? 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