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1. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Thaw is on (Craig Payne)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: ELT's (Craig Winkelmann, CFI)
3. 07:32 AM - Re: ELT's (fougapilot)
4. 08:20 AM - Re: Main Gear Actuator Seals (doug sapp)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: ELT's (Genzlinger, Reade)
6. 09:13 AM - cable tension (Jerry Painter)
7. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: ELT's (Tom Elliott)
8. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: ELT's (Cliff Coy)
9. 09:47 PM - Re: Re: ELT's (Roger Kemp M.D.)
10. 10:50 PM - Re: Re: ELT's (Tom Elliott)
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Thaw is on |
>
> We expect 70 degrees today in
> San Francisco and the cherry trees and daffodils are in bloom. And the really
> good news is that the snow pack in the Sierras is 120% of normal. So, why
> is that so great? Because it means that we'll be able to flush toilets through
> the summer. ...Blitz
>
Ah, Spring in Marin County. The smell of freshly-delivered luxury SUV's waft
up through the Valley, through the gates of Marin County Airport where those
flushing potties in the hangers supply the organic treatment plant the means
to keep those Cherry trees and Daffodils blooming...along with fresh herbs for
Quiche and Smoothie bar in the Pilots-Only banquet room of the airport
resturant. Isn't life is great in Happy Valley Springtime!
Craig Payne
cpayne@joimail.com
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OK, give CAP chases down most ELTs in the US...here is the scoop:
1) If you have a 121.5 ELT in your plane (and you do if you fly legally) it will
still meet the FAA mandate requirements of Part 91. The mandate arose from
Congress after a crash in Alaska, where the plane was never found, that killed
two Congressmen.
2) As of Feb 1, 2009, if you crash, plan on being dead as nobody will look for
you. No satellites monitoring 121.5, no CAP dispatched to look for 121.5 signals
UNLESS picked up by a) a plane monitoring 121.5, or b) some ground facility.
You'll likely be dead of exposure or post crash injuries before anybody looks
for you.
3) Yes, 406 beacons are expensive. Will they come down in price, yes.
In the mean time, you can do what I have decided to do. Get a 406 PLB and attach
it to your parachute. If you don't fly with a parachute, put it a flight suit
pocket. If you don't wear a flight suit or parachute, put it somewhere on
your person you know it will be after you land. If it is on your parachute and
you get out of your plane it is with you - who cares where the plane is anyway.
The only thing you have to keep in mind is that the PLB is activated by you. The
ELT in your plane is activated by a crash (well, that is the theory....actual
data is 25% activation in a crash and 97% false alarm rate). As we all know
from Steve Fossett, ELTs don't activate or burn in the post-crash fire.
The other thing you could get is a satellite phone that allows you to call 911.
Sparky Imeson, aka the Father of Mountain Flying (who incidentally crashed in
the mountains recently) said he will never fly in remote areas again with out
a SPOT Satellite Messenger (cost about $150). Also, in his post crash review
he listed the following as must haves:
1) PLB (listed as probably the MOST IMPORTANT item)
2) survival vest, not in the back seat, but worn
3) a helmet (he smacked his head pretty hard)
Hope this helps,
Craig Winkelmann, Capt, CAP
Nanchang CJ-6
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Well, Canada went a little further...
Effective Feb 1 2009, all airplane must have a 406 ELT that will automatically
activate upon impact. PLBs are OUT :-(
I already have a PLB with my parachute, but looks like I will have to spend some
more $$ and get a fixed one in the near future.
Such is life
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Main Gear Actuator Seals |
Durometer? whatzat?
Most all the seals are the same CJ to 52, and I have them in stock for the
CJ. Send em back if they are not correct. Please contact me off list @
509-826-4610
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM, mikspin <mikspin@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Can anyone tell me the US equivalent of the type of rubber (buna, etc.) of
> the chevron seals on the piston of the gear actuators on the Yak 52? Also,
> what durometer?
>
> I realize that this probably true (except for the durometer) for almost
> all the seals in the air system.
>
> TIA,
>
> Mike Hastings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167343#167343
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>
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Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644
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In researching the 406 elt's to replace an old broken 121.5 I have found
the following (in general):
- basic unit (dual band) = $1000
- encoded message transmission capability = $3500+
- coupled with gps/nav system (broadcasts lat/lon), tri band broadcast
$4500+
Reade Genzlinger
Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation
mailto:readeg@cairnwood.com
215.914.0370
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fougapilot
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: ELT's
Well, Canada went a little further...
Effective Feb 1 2009, all airplane must have a 406 ELT that will
automatically activate upon impact. PLBs are OUT :-(
I already have a PLB with my parachute, but looks like I will have to
spend some more $$ and get a fixed one in the near future.
Such is life
Dan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167388#167388
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Brian and Joe--
I think that's what I said? My guess is T-6 specs are very close, if not
the same as Yakstuff, and given that the range of acceptable tensions on
any
given day is probably R E A L L Y B I G, differences (if any) between T
-6
s, "typical" and Yak/CJ data are not likely to be a serious issue. Auto
temp compensators in little airplanes? None that I know of. Yes, check
the
specs, always better than a WAG, and apply compensation, especially if yo
u
encounter big variations in temp. But barring specific data to the contr
ary
"typical" (or T-6) probably works just fine.
So howzabout something else? Here's a little -52/Nanchang ACM vid
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids
individual&videoid=29080478
Jerry Painter
chief pilot, CFI, A&P, airport bum,
permanent latrine orderly &c.
Wild Blue Aviation
Arlington Municipal Airport (KAWO)
Hangar A-6
19203 59th Dr. NE
Arlington, WA 98223
425-876-0865
JP@FlyWBA.com
http://www.FlyWBA.com
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--> <capav8r@gmail.com>
OK, give CAP chases down most ELTs in the US...here is the scoop:
1) If you have a 121.5 ELT in your plane (and you do if you fly legally) it
will still meet the FAA mandate requirements of Part 91. The mandate arose
from Congress after a crash in Alaska, where the plane was never found, that
killed two Congressmen.
Craig Winkelmann, Capt, CAP
Nanchang CJ-6
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Well I beg to differ If you will review (14 CFR Section 91.207) excerpt
below. Please note parg.F item #8 it plainly
states that air craft used for exhibition plus other use's DO NOT have to
carry ELT's. I should think the CAP would be
acuity aware of this reg.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE REQUIREMENT TO CARRY AN ELT.
e) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, a person may
(1) Ferry a newly acquired airplane from the place where possession of it
was taken to a place where the emergency locator transmitter is to be
installed; and
(2) Ferry an airplane with an inoperative emergency locator transmitter from
a place where repairs or replacements cannot be made to a place where they
can be made.
No person other than required crewmembers may be carried aboard an airplane
being ferried under paragraph (e) of this section.
(f) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to
(1) Before January 1, 2004, turbojet-powered aircraft;
(2) Aircraft while engaged in scheduled flights by scheduled air carriers;
(3) Aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely within
a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight
operations began;
(4) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and
testing;
(5) New aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to their
manufacture, preparation, and delivery;
(6) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to the aerial
application of chemicals and other substances for agricultural purposes;
(7) Aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and development
purposes;
(8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew
training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
(9) Aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person.
(10) An aircraft during any period for which the transmitter has been
temporarily removed for inspection, repair, modification, or replacement,
subject to the following:
10:01 AM
10:01 AM
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Well Tom...here comes the splitting of hairs....
Item #8 exempts the requirement of carrying an ELT while the aircraft is
being *used* for exhibition.
Just because an aircraft is certified under the exhibition category
doesn't mean it's being used for exhibition all the time.
So during those times when the aircraft is not "exhibiting" itself, an
ELT would be required...ie during all those "proficiency" flights ;-).
I guess I'm in the "it's better to have it and not need it, than need it
and not have it" camp.
By the way, I've mentioned it before, I've written letters with pictures
to the FAA and to Ameriking-
If you have an Ameriking AK-450 ELT installed, REMOVE the auxiliary
antenna from the unit NOW.
Put it in a zippered pocket or secure it some other way. I keep finding
these antennae in the tail cones of aircraft.
We just found *two* in the back of an Aerocommander last week. They are
going to kill someone damn soon.
ACK E-01 ELT's have the problem, just not as prevalent. I still take
these out and hand them to the owner for better storage.
Cheers,
Cliff
Tom Elliott wrote:
>
> --> <capav8r@gmail.com>
>
> OK, give CAP chases down most ELTs in the US...here is the scoop:
>
> 1) If you have a 121.5 ELT in your plane (and you do if you fly legally) it
> will still meet the FAA mandate requirements of Part 91. The mandate arose
> from Congress after a crash in Alaska, where the plane was never found, that
> killed two Congressmen.
>
>
> Craig Winkelmann, Capt, CAP
> Nanchang CJ-6
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> Well I beg to differ If you will review (14 CFR Section 91.207) excerpt
> below. Please note parg.F item #8 it plainly
> states that air craft used for exhibition plus other use's DO NOT have to
> carry ELT's. I should think the CAP would be
> acuity aware of this reg.
> Tom Elliott
> CJ-6A NX63727
> 702-595-2680
>
> THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE REQUIREMENT TO CARRY AN ELT.
> e) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, a person may
>
> (1) Ferry a newly acquired airplane from the place where possession of it
> was taken to a place where the emergency locator transmitter is to be
> installed; and
>
> (2) Ferry an airplane with an inoperative emergency locator transmitter from
> a place where repairs or replacements cannot be made to a place where they
> can be made.
>
> No person other than required crewmembers may be carried aboard an airplane
> being ferried under paragraph (e) of this section.
>
> (f) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to
>
> (1) Before January 1, 2004, turbojet-powered aircraft;
>
> (2) Aircraft while engaged in scheduled flights by scheduled air carriers;
>
> (3) Aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely within
> a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight
> operations began;
>
> (4) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and
> testing;
>
> (5) New aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to their
> manufacture, preparation, and delivery;
>
> (6) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to the aerial
> application of chemicals and other substances for agricultural purposes;
>
> (7) Aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and development
> purposes;
>
> (8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew
> training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
>
> (9) Aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person.
>
> (10) An aircraft during any period for which the transmitter has been
> temporarily removed for inspection, repair, modification, or replacement,
> subject to the following:
>
>
> 10:01 AM
>
>
> 10:01 AM
>
>
>
>
--
Clifford Coy
Director of Maintenance
Border Air Ltd
629 Airport Rd.
Swanton, VT 05488
802-868-2822 TEL
802-868-4465 FAX
Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy <callto:cliff.coy>
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Thought that was the case. The single seaters are not required to have an
Elt. The two seaters and more are. So, I carry a 406 SARSAT PLT with me in
the 50 and the 52. I would rather rely on the PLT than the ELT anyway.
Doc
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: ELT's
--> <capav8r@gmail.com>
OK, give CAP chases down most ELTs in the US...here is the scoop:
1) If you have a 121.5 ELT in your plane (and you do if you fly legally) it
will still meet the FAA mandate requirements of Part 91. The mandate arose
from Congress after a crash in Alaska, where the plane was never found, that
killed two Congressmen.
Craig Winkelmann, Capt, CAP
Nanchang CJ-6
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Well I beg to differ If you will review (14 CFR Section 91.207) excerpt
below. Please note parg.F item #8 it plainly
states that air craft used for exhibition plus other use's DO NOT have to
carry ELT's. I should think the CAP would be
acuity aware of this reg.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE REQUIREMENT TO CARRY AN ELT.
e) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, a person may-
(1) Ferry a newly acquired airplane from the place where possession of it
was taken to a place where the emergency locator transmitter is to be
installed; and
(2) Ferry an airplane with an inoperative emergency locator transmitter from
a place where repairs or replacements cannot be made to a place where they
can be made.
No person other than required crewmembers may be carried aboard an airplane
being ferried under paragraph (e) of this section.
(f) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to-
(1) Before January 1, 2004, turbojet-powered aircraft;
(2) Aircraft while engaged in scheduled flights by scheduled air carriers;
(3) Aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely within
a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight
operations began;
(4) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and
testing;
(5) New aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to their
manufacture, preparation, and delivery;
(6) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to the aerial
application of chemicals and other substances for agricultural purposes;
(7) Aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and development
purposes;
(8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew
training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
(9) Aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person.
(10) An aircraft during any period for which the transmitter has been
temporarily removed for inspection, repair, modification, or replacement,
subject to the following:
10:01 AM
10:01 AM
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Well Tom...here comes the splitting of hairs....
Item #8 exempts the requirement of carrying an ELT while the aircraft is
being *used* for exhibition.
Then what other use's can an experimental exhibition aircraft be used for
other than crew training (i.e. Proficiency )
and exhibition? See item # 8 below?
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
(8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew
> training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
6:50 PM
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